NASB BOE 08-10-26
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All right, we'll go ahead. You guys want to review that? It's been driving crazy. Okay. Approval or modification of agenda we have added under financial report B budget updates and under new business we've added C hall of fame gym naming dedication request. Is there any other modifications or >> not that I'm aware of? Just moving up the U board assignments. That's all. >> Okay. Um, >> what did I do? >> Um, but yeah, see it's covered under this one. >> No, because you didn't do that. We didn't make that comment when we um started. >> So, okay. >> Yes. >> Well, there's lots of people still talking, too. So, if everybody stops talking, you'll probably be able to hear me because my I've never been told I'm very quiet. So, approval of minutes, June 22nd, 2026, public minutes. I need a motion to accept. >> I'll make a motion. Second. >> Okay. Any further discussion? >> Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Abstensions. Next. Um, August 10th nonpublic meeting minutes. Those are there. >> I'll make a motion to approve. I'll second it. I. Opposed. Extensions. Next. June 29th, 2026 procedural defect special meeting minutes. Any gross errors, issues, or concerns with the minutes. >> I'll make a motion. >> Okay. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I. Opposed. Abstensions. >> Next. July 21st, 2026, special board meeting minutes. >> Move to approve. >> I will second. none, all those in favor say I. >> I. Opposed. Abstensions. Okay. Next, we will open it up. It is 6:34. We will open it up for public comments. >> Where can I stand here? >> If you just come up front just that would be lovely. You'll be closer to one of the speakers to pick you up. Hengers Meredith. I work at Bristol Elementary. I just have a question. Um, so we got ourselves into this little bit of a problem, we'll call it, um, with everything going on. Who was responsible to make sure that voters knew we needed that 60% because I believe on article five it actually said um, if you wanted to lift lift the tax cap, you needed a 60% passing. Why was that not listed on the other things that would have needed a 60% and who would be responsible? Was it the SAU school or was it the town? >> We we'll get back to we always do response at the Yeah. >> Okay. Any further public comment? All right, seeing none, we'll move on. We do have a public comment at the end as well. Um, response to public comment. So, the 60% is typically um usually what happens is when we send it, we send it to our attorneys and then we send it to the DRRA for review to ensure that everything's on there correctly. Um they usually check those kinds of things. Um we were under the impression, we were told, we were under the impression that it just had to have a simple majority. That's what I was until about July, whatever. That's I was still under that impression. So, um, so >> So, so it went through the lawyers and the you were not told to put 60% on the actual >> the three-fifths on the on the ballot. No. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. Correspondence. >> Um, none. >> None. Okay. Announcements and recognition. We'll go with the student rep report. >> All right. So, there isn't really a lot because, you know, it's summer. I think everybody's been enjoying the time away from school. Uh the main stuff is we have fall sports beginning to pick up over the summer. We've had summer practices for all the teams like football and soccer and field hockey. Everyone's really excited for the season to start. I know I am. I'm excited to go to some games again and enjoy my time at school. Uh school year starts in 3 weeks, so it's starting to pick up again. We'll be starting the school year August 31st. And I'm really excited to be back. And students now have their schedules on Infinite Campus to be able to be viewed. So, if any parents want to pass that on to their students so that they can see what classes they'll be taking, that's, you know, able to be seen now. And that's kind of all I got. >> All right. >> Probably your shortest report you'll have all year. >> Good good breaker for you. Superintendent report. Um so we're six weeks in about and um the work being done at Bristol Elementary is um happening and should be completed in the next week and a half or so uh and be ready to open uh for the first days of school. uh the buildings with the transition and hiring a new facilities uh manager uh were a little behind uh because there was uh a lot of moving parts, but since we have our new facilities uh manager uh in in house, he's now helping to organize and and get things done. So, we have some uh waxing crews in doing some floors. We have some other cleaning crews. Um but our team is working diligently to get the buildings and the grounds uh ready for uh August 31st. Um there's the the the summer sessions and and summer uh activities have come to a close in in most places, but the staff are still doing some professional development. Um there's some more tomorrow that's happening um with some newly training, some reading. Um so there's a lot of great things that happened over the summer. Um, and obviously we're working very hard day in and day out to uh reconcile 2026 and get 2027 up and running so we can get the year started. >> Okay, >> thank you. Uh, next financial report, treasures report and the budget updates. [clears throat] >> Financial report. Um, so this came in a little later than we'd like. Um, we have a lot of digging um and getting through the the um we took a pretty good look at the published audit FY the fiscal year 24 audits been completed. Um we're close to finishing that the fiscal year 25 audit. Um so there's a few documents capital assets but materially we have everything in for them to complete the audit. Um, so we do expect that to be done soon and we'll be getting into the 26 audit as well. So the financial report, we actually began with the audited financials. Um on page four, we started off with the FY24 audited financials um for the actual expenditures for the two funds that are supported by um newfound taxpayers. The general fund, we refer to it often as the operating budget and the food services fund. Um the primary reason for doing this is to look at where you started um and through the past few years what put you in a position where you're at a appropriation a budgetary deficit starting off the fiscal year 27. Um we're still in the middle of closing out the 26 year fiscal year. So we put on the document though these are clearly estimates still and we tried to make this as simple to understand as possible. It is somewhat complicated. Um so as you start down on this and I I think you have a colored copy of it which makes it a little bit easier to read. Um but we started off with a positive fund balance in both funds. Not much on food services. So in the last two years um FY25 and 26 food services has come in with significant deficits with no fund balance. The general fund is responsible for covering that. Um as you note at the end this and and we're at a very conservative estimate. We think the worst case scenario in as we close out is that we're at a total um ending fund balance going into FY27 with only 41,000. Um this is most likely going to prompt a request for a deficit appropriation as we finish um closing that out going into September. Um I'll be giving a process for doing that to to the school board. Um so you can vote to go that route which is another meeting that would take us into tax rate setting to cover the deficit in the appropriation between what we spent not to you know cover the full like add to your fund balance is to simply cover the deficit. So, first I'll open it up to you you folks. Um, if you've had a chance to review it, um, do you have any questions? >> I have one. I don't know. I don't know if it's got >> if we're there yet on it because I don't have any fun. >> No, it's okay. >> But where it shows the money we have, it shows a negative 300 and some odd thousand to deposits. How do you have a negative deposits? Because it says we got all our money from the town. I I still understand the concept. >> So we lost funding, you know, we had money lost in what was budgeted. So the estimates and even if you look at the budget versus actual on taxes, [clears throat] you can see on taxes in 2024, you budgeted for less than you received locally. You got intergovernmental receipts which is funding like Medicaid funding. So there's a lot of revenue sources that are estimated a year in advance that were underestimated. So it's not your tax receipts are actually what you're you that's predictable because the DRRA based on your choices of other revenue and credits the DRA is saying is saying we're going to appropriate the following to cover >> and those estimates you're you're never going to be right on on all those estimates but they should be close. Um in this case there there was some material problems with it. So, is there any potential for inbound revenue that could potentially offset >> the deficit through >> probably not for 2026 because that we're closing it now 27 >> um >> adjustments that are being made may have a shift. >> No, not to cover that deficit from a year that's closed. Um we we're going to well now it's a whole new appropriation. So that's being appropriated as well and the the we're looking at that revenue now. We got we got a default budget. So we're distributing that. I give a little bit of our process and the last item on here is like what are we doing with 27? How do you know going to know how to spend it? because the default budget's not looking at your school district to say, "Yeah, you know, you have these projects, um, new contracts, you know, did it account for the full amount of, um, special ed, um, programming?" I don't think so. Because when you look at how we spent even our grant funds, we expected to spend, let's and hypothetically, it's in the ballpark that we got allocated approximately 300,000 for IDA. the allocated expenditures that we would normally pay out of that were close to 700,000. And with those costs being mandated by law, how are we going to pay for that? So when your expenditures are exceeding that, that's when we look, we should know that further in advance. So right now, I'm working with special ed to say realistically, what are those contracts? Who are the students? And we're allocating that default budget to compensate for what they weren't able to compensate last year. And if you look at those the amount of money in special ed on this would be page two. I give a quick it's like the the first question is how in 26 does this happen? Like where did it go wrong? >> Right? So if you look at the the functions, preK, special ed, transportation, psychological services, the general special ed programs under the 1200 function code, speech services, guidance related services have a huge student impact too. That one department and which is one of those that you ha generally you would say you have to spend the money. That's way more than what our deficit was, >> right? So you there's at a point you can't just cover it, right? You can't say, "Well, we're going to leave these vacancies open." Well, how 800,000 in vacancies, you wouldn't be able to operate. So, >> and as you said, a lot of this is mandated, so we couldn't even >> Yeah. So, we have a new special ed director as well. Um she's we've started off looking at all the payroll positions. We're matching students with contracts. We're going through every single piece of it. Um Brian reviews all the purchase orders with me, you know, so we're looking at everything that comes into us before we sign a contract. We're like, is there another way to do this? So, um it's tricky. Um, but you have an excellent choice in a special ed director who is looking at all those contracts, who's responsible, um, very detailed oriented, you know, um, and very involved in pulling the the, you know, the student file and reviewing it from transportation to all the services in it. Um, we're going to be looking at Medicaid. Should we be getting more money? You know, like are we reporting these things out, you know, effectively? So these are this is not unique to Newfound too. That should be understood that schools across the whole entire state are in this situation. I had multi-million dollar overages in special ed um in do but we also had 32 vacancies on pair of professionals and we didn't do some maintenance and other things. So we started working on covering it almost from the start of the school year. Um so a lot of work goes into that. You don't see it. Um, but I can understand how a budget can get, especially the smaller the school is, you don't have the opportunities to to cover it. >> If we have a meeting about deficit article to like cover the deficit, >> even if we vote to go ahead and try and do that, won't that does won't that likely be on the ballot in March kind of thing? That won't be a special election, will it? and all and even if we want it, it would still go before the voters and they'd have to approve it. But wouldn't it be on a large ballot as opposed to something we were trying to >> just, >> you know, that's a good question. I think you can get it in before then. Um, I did some research on that. Let me see here. >> That gets expensive, too. >> Definitely. >> And any of those operating building services, were any of that able to be switched to the maintenance trust fund? we are reviewing that. >> Um, we're going through all the incumbrances that were reported. We found in in the documentation we have, we're about 164,000 in incumbrance corrections. So, we're looking at the possibility that some of these were duplicate contracts. We haven't paid out on on the two major ones. So, I think we may be able to avoid those. um we just want to make sure they were two separate purchase orders. So we're looking at every line item. Um so that's why I say this is our worst case scenario given okay um we compared journal entries that were in the during the rollover process of carrying POS forward in our software to the new fiscal year um to all open POS. So we're doing that analysis now. Um, >> okay. >> One of the pieces are are there items that essentially we could vote [clears throat] to be paid facilities improvements that could be voted to um pay those out of the facilities trust fund instead of the general fund. That could help too, >> right? >> That could also help in the 27 um revenue situation >> where you would take Anyway, that's another >> part of that we need to remember. We had like 1.3 million [cough] in December [clears throat] in there. Mhm. >> We're down around 7 or 800,000. If we take more of that to balance, which is fine to do it, we're going to be down more. And there's no no surplus this year. So, we're not put any more back. So, that money is not going to function in any way. >> Yeah. It's so you you did put significant funds towards reducing taxes and a couple of those years. That's what really depleted the unassigned fund balance when you did that. So, one of the recommendations I I would normally say is to maintain fund balance in a way that's responsible to for your cash flows. Be careful about using it to reduce taxes too much because then you'll get a seessaw effect in each year. It's a political and emotional roller coaster for people to have their taxes like, look, we got you very low taxes this year. Well, but next year you set it up to a point where you're guaranteed to have higher taxes. And what we try to do financially is is create a stable environment for taxation to try to similar to why you got a tax cap, right? Was to limit that tax growth every year. And we want to do that by being responsible with financing um with expense um management and and which is why we have long-term capital improvement programming to say how can we do this over time. That's the whole purpose of capital reserves, not to supplement your budget, but to spread out well-defined long-term plans so that when you have a larger capital improvement in one year, you offset that by summary reserve so it doesn't create a spike in taxation. We want people to be able to live here and have predictable tax rates. That's really what you want to do is be able to plan for how much it costs to live. And if we're constantly doing that roller coaster, um it it becomes painful and emotionally painful for your community. So outside of that, we also I did put in um some information about Danbury. That's something you're going to have to address. >> That's on that's on new. >> Yep. So I did put in a path in here. I did not expect to really discuss it outside of this report other than providing information that the public could also see when we put it on our in our board materials. Okay. >> I don't know if it matters, but when you get to the end of it, that was like appendix C. >> It's it's the next four pages. It's the same four pages just doesn't say appendix C on the big thing we got. >> Gotcha. I certainly >> So it says it on every page. So you're saying like >> no we got four pages say appendix C and then we got four pages of what we're going to do and then when we get to the end of that it was it was like one of uh 11 together when we get the end of that there was another four pages which was the same four pages >> oh >> on the big 33 page thing I got >> okay >> I did it didn't matter I just completed >> certainly the copy I've got has >> I have three pages is for appendix. >> We do two. I have three. >> One, two, three. And then there's >> then there's a separate consideration for managing a school closure. There's like two of them. >> Four, five, six. >> One of them is just formatted differently. One of the first one has more information that >> it's just formatted >> differently. when we took PDFs and we're trying to combine them. >> May I'd be happy to deal. >> Yeah, we'll do. >> What else? I'm not planning to do it. >> Well, that was a joyous report. >> It is the reality though. >> The reality is >> I'm glad we have you here to have that to explain our reality, >> right? I mean >> I do not expect to produce reports that long normally. Um we are trying to >> just in real time keep you at least understanding the path we're going and we're moving forward with. Uh so >> we appreciate the transparency as much as I'm sure everybody does. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh committee reports. Now it's pretty much just when the meetings are. All right. Budget committee. >> Um, we have a meeting next week. I think it's next Thursday. I think this Thursday 19th. Yeah. Policy is this week. >> All right. Facilities committee. >> We didn't have a meeting. Joe was on it. >> Okay. That's right. >> Paul kind of I'm not sure who the chair. >> It has to re um set up because I think Joe was. So, we'll redo committees. Anyhow, policy committee has a meeting on Thursday. >> No. >> Curriculum committee. >> Okay. Building committee had a meeting last Thursday. >> Update. >> So in the meeting we had discussions regarding next steps regarding consolidation. how given our state the best avenues and approaches um is it okay to disclose everything that was discussed? >> Yeah, it was meeting. Yeah. >> Um we did have a vote to pause strategically any spending or movement for consolidation given our current financial state. It makes sense. we will reassess and review. Um that was one of the the major [clears throat] things that the meeting was called to address. Um we got an update on the elementary school. Things are moving along there. The construction crews are underway prepping that school for the start of the school year. Um and then we briefly talked about the elementary school in Danbury, but the bottom line is um we wanted to bring to the board here to and I will make a motion that we should pause any action for consolidation. And in that, we're going to review what is currently in place and in motion and see if we can recoup or or stop spending additional funds in pursuit of this until we become more stable in our in our fiscal situation. So, I'm going to make a motion that we pause those actions for consolidation. Can we change it so that we don't say we pause actions that we we make it so that we pause spending action because anything do consolidation fs out saying pause it pauses everything. So you make it so we could still work on consolidation if there's things we can do that don't aren't cost money. So I I think internally we're certainly going to start doing more data um pulling more data to look at um cost items in the consolidation effort. >> Um so it's really pausing the movement of working with vendors on um >> the which is very costly you know um >> multiple vendors are in here from engineers to construction managers etc. And we want to pause that and and really look at um the cost benefit of the planning stage and get some data, you know, um and back it and also get some real long-term estimates of of what has has been discussed. What does that really cost over time? >> And and one thing, >> just a minute, just a minute. [clears throat] There is a motion on the floor, so we have to finish the motion. Sorry. >> If you want to withdraw your motion and reframe it or have further discussion, that's fine. But there's a motion on the floor that has to be addressed. >> So I will I will rephrase my motion that we cease spending associated with the consolidation project and allow internal data collection as required. >> A second. >> Okay. Now we can open up to discussion. >> Do we want to vote on it? >> No, we can open it up to discussion. Now we can discuss it. Sorry. >> Nope. No. I just wanted to like I kept trying to be like wait a minute. >> Oh yeah, sorry. >> Because I'll be like I don't have like >> Yeah. So, so it's more to just pause spending, let some internal kind of wait until you've got budgets a little bit more under control. We'll just throw it on top. >> Do it at the same time. And and and one thing that was discussed is looking at the addition and seeing how we could better that >> to potentially make our campus more equitable to perhaps other communities like Huitt or Winnwam or things of that nature giving us an opportunity to look at what the future may bring and how we could benefit from that as a community. It's a one-time spend of a significant amount of money. What are you getting for for that money? >> Long term. >> Yeah, long term. >> Okay, makes sense. >> Yeah, >> that's my discussion. >> Okay, any further discussion? Okay. Um, all those we'll send to a vote. So, all those in favor say I. >> I. >> Opposed? Abstensions. Okay. Anything further from the building committee? >> Okay. Wellness committee. They're usually don't meet for a little bit. >> They're usually good. >> Okay. Tech council. >> Haven't heard anything yet. >> Okay. And transportation committee. We got to get that committee set up >> or have a first meeting there pretty soon. Okay. Next, we're going to go under old business, the Bristol board representative opening. Um, so I know we have three candidates. I don't know where everybody is. Sorry. So, if the three candidates could come on up, I'll have you each kind of give a spiel about yourself and then um we will vote on the opening and then we'll proceed from there. >> Thank you. [snorts] >> Oh, yeah. You can pull chairs around whichever you prefer. Yeah, that's fine. That was in our packet, too. I know. I got the email. So, >> so I'm going to go around like a clock because that's how I do it. And you're right in front of me. So, I'm going to have you >> must be at 1:00. >> Yeah, you're right across from me. >> My name is Brian Gallagher and I just like to thank for the opportunity to come in and talk to you. um why I sent I submitted a letter of intent uh with the interim [clears throat] position between now and March for I'm fortunate to be retired from a full-time job and therefore I have some some volunteer time that I'm going to give back to the community. have had the opportunity and I believe the board has the resume I I submitted um that I have quite a bit of experience working in SA over the course of my career I've worked for two years in the southwest part of the state and school district which were joined at one time like here in Newound and we went through a process where they separated experience with that. And just going back a little bit, which states me right here, but I was the first business administrator here from school district back in the early 2000s. So, um I believe I have some background that that could assist the board if uh you felt as though I would, you know, fit in this situation. I understand a lot of things that Michael was up against in particular the financial commands and as a matter of fact I believe September 1st he he's up against the deadline to submit the proposal 25 to department of education which would indicate as they suggested to the board earlier whether or not you ended the year with a deficit or a surplus. Um either way, um it will play out the way it plays out. That's something that Mike was very, uh talented to be able to to figure that out. And when it does come out, I would just encourage the board if it happens to be a deficit that that you inform the public sooner than later so that they're informed. The other part is it's about educating the young people in the school district as as as well as the adolescents to make sure that they have proper skills to move into the the real world. I I saw the report from the high school this year that there were approximately 86 students that graduated and it was broken down that there were 43 that went to two-year schools or went to to colleges. Some entered the workplace and one particular person, whoever he or she was, entered the military and God bless them. But when I added it up, it only came to 63. So that there were 21 students that were unaccounted for. So I think that's something that you know as the board is very concerned about the education each student who is in the system has to have a pathway and we have to do that in a manner that not only provides them with the skills but at the same time we have to respect the other side of the equation which is the folks being in the communities of Danbury, Bristol, Alexandria and Hampton. that are responsible for providing the resources to accomplish this task. So I don't want to talk a lot about myself question if you like but I do believe that I've got the background having worked in two large school districts here so five smaller districts in that that region and they also experienced breakups like contact. So I thought I'd go forward like an opportunity to maybe assess between now and next March and then certainly you know folks would have to make decisions what they might want to do7. Okay that's that's what I have to say. >> Thank you. Anybody have any questions for Brian? >> Okay. Next we'll move on to Jake. Hi. >> My name is Jake Porum. Um, I'm at the other end of the spectrum. I have very little experience um in this realm. um uh when thinking of of volunteering for a position like this, uh I I have currently a senior coming into the year of 2027 and um 2026 and uh I have a daughter who's going in the third grade and uh this school district has given so much to my kids and given so much to my family. Uh, and I figured it was a fitting time for me to start giving back. Um, with the limited experience that I have in this realm, um, I do see some benefits there. I have fresh eyes. Uh, I'm a very objective and analytical thinker. I have good attention to detail. Um, I've spent 15 years in law enforcement. I've currently work in affordable housing providing housing for uh hundreds and hundreds of people across New Hampshire. Both of those fields are very thankless just like uh the job you're doing now. You know, a lot of folks don't see behind the scenes. Um and you know, if granted a position like this, I I certainly would be thankful to learn a lot and to be involved. Um, you know, I do have a lot of other responsibilities in my life, but that was one of the the big decisions uh in putting in for this is I'm not going to do anything that I wouldn't be committed to. Um whether that is just for the short short term until March or you know whether the community saw fit to keep me on later. So, um, again, thank you for an opportunity that maybe >> Thank you. Any questions for Jake? >> Okay. Um, Michelle, >> thank you guys for being here tonight. Um, my name is Michelle Sharp. I grew up uh in the Newton area, graduated here, so to both my children. Um I worked for the school for 11 years I think predominantly in project promise after school program. In the last few years of that I was the assistant director. uh seen a lot of turmoil going on these past few years, especially with the separation um of the schools and that's one of the I've I've seen a lot you know working here being a student here all of it you know witnessed a lot seen a lot um during my tenure and that's one of the reasons I wanted to see on the school board uh I believe we represent the families you know, even if they don't have kids in the school, um, in the community, and I want to make sure that their voices are heard, you know, and transparency have been talked about tonight. And that's one of the biggest things I know many have a hard time. so with their best interests and account, uh, so I I have the attention to detail and and the drive to want to represent Bristol to the best that it can be represented even if it's just till March. I'll do everything I can for the town. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you very much. Anybody have any questions for Michelle? >> So, I'd like to ask a question to each of them. Okay. So, is it your intention in in March to stay on? Is that something that you would consider doing? last part of your question. I would consider it if I were to be on the board. I think I would learn over the next six months how much I can or cannot contribute. And if I'm able to contribute, which helps the situation, that certainly would be a big factor to conserve large for the long term. >> And I'd like to ask each of you the same question. Yeah, I mean that would be the the goal. Sorry. Okay. Anybody else have any questions for them? Okay. So, what we will do now is we will vote and go from there and we'll vote clockwise again. Sorry. We'll start with um and you only get one vote. Just I guess I should clarify that you only get one [laughter] vote. Um, so we'll start with Brian. Those who feel that Brian would be a good addition to the board, please, please say I. Um, next, those who think Jake would be a good addition to the board, please say I. >> And those that would like to have Michelle as part of the board, please say I. I think it was one to three to zero. >> What about you? I said I for Jake. Sorry. I said it. I probably rolled it in. I apologize, Ruth. I voted for Jake. >> Thank you. So, three to one. >> Okay. So, I make a motion to take a 10-minute recess um just to swear in uh the new board member and have them sit the board. I'd like to take I would also like to thank Michelle and Brian too for coming and putting in your names. And just because you're not a board member doesn't mean you can't contribute. Everybody in this room can >> come and help out committees. [applause] >> So we'll just take a >> and I'll second motion break. >> Oh yeah. All those in favor say I. >> Sorry I forgot about that. >> Sorry because now we have to swear them in so that we can do that. >> Are these on? >> Yeah, the mics are still on. We still Yeah. >> So don't start. Oh, you could just make really annoying noises for um for Siobhan. Siobhan loves it when we >> Yeah, we had to turn up the fans because they were so stinking loud. >> No, I don't think >> Just don't tell Sorry, start yelling. Okay, so new business. We're going to move on to new business. Um we're going to go to the Danbury School um building updates. I go back to my email here. Do you mind just kind of walking us through your little >> thing that you g gave us there, Michael? >> Appendix C. Sure. >> I know, but I'm totally putting him on the spot >> cuz he wrote it. So, >> well, I I wrote it in a way that I thought I was hitting like the pieces of like where do you start with these buildings, right? So, this is uncharted territory. Um, and I we we should discuss too um buildings have been, you know, in the beginning of building the co-op putting the cooperative together. Um, some buildings were returned to their towns, etc. So, this is going to be a question for you to really think about. Um, you hire people like myself and Brian. Um, we represent the district and we also, um, represent your financial health. So, there are options of what you can do with these buildings. You don't have to sell them at a steep discount to someone. You don't necessarily have to give it back to a community, but we understand why that might be an important decision to make. Um, we also know you could lease it out. Do you want to bring this building back into the district at some point in time while still maintaining it and keeping it a viable, healthy building? These are the even I I think it was a $10.5 million insured building 10 years ago. I'm haven't seen an assessment since, but these are, you know, very sturdy, strong buildings. They do cost a lot to maintain. Um, but they will last forever if you do it correctly. And sometimes just having the right tenant can keep that building going strong, provide possibly a great use for it. And that's why that's the onus of this conversation. It's like what what are your options? What can you do? And what would you like to do? So the first part is just declaring it. So some of these are just procedural. And this takes into account the new um what is it 194? I can't remember off the top of my head. I think we reference it 194 RSA 19461 um which requires you to make this available um in a way for charter schools. So this addresses that and complies with that. So step one is just determining the building's unused facility which I don't think we've formally done. I think you've done that. We vacated it. >> Yeah, we've closed it. >> You certainly have vacated it um pretty quickly. Um >> well, we don't know if we've taken anything out of it. >> We have taken a lot of stuff out of it. uh actually, we begin moving furniture tomorrow. So, furniture will be migrating over to various classrooms, etc. Um we are renting two trucks to do that. We have a a pile of staff dedicated to doing it over the next two days. So it is in the process um of happening. We have till July 1st to declare this and we have to do that. Um so there's a reporting it to the department of education um marketing. So go ahead. >> July 1st next year July 1st 2027. We missed the deadline for this year. >> So that would have been a little too quick. >> That is not entirely a bad thing. It buys you a little bit of time and it technically isn't completely vacated. There's still things in it and things that you need. >> So, you wouldn't have been able to put a tenant in anyway. So, um this part I think is interesting and worth doing and a lot of people rush into this, but there are professional organizations that will market this and look at the best uses for it. So you should know what is the value of the building to whom and that's this is just a plain way of stating that and um what needs to be included in those proposals what to look at um we will put it out to bid for um uses those are and I'm not not speaking for you I'm just saying these are some probably the most val um reliable options of of what to do with the This also gives you multiple organizations that could come and use it and you get a choice of who goes in there, right? It's choosing the right tenant is extremely important. If anyone here has ever worked with rental properties or even in any kind of construction or management piece, you know how important the tenant is. It's not necessarily the money you get. It's are how are they up going to manage upkeep utilities and everything has to be part of this agreement. >> [clears throat] >> So, we would issue an RFP, negotiate a contract. It tells you a little bit about what kind of items you should put into the lease. These are did a little bit of legal research just to get into like things that we need to be thinking about. Um, a firm would obviously um capture most of these. Um, and then finally, once once you get to determining and making a judgment on who would lease it, if that isn't a chartered school, you have to um go into a 60-day notice period for this law and that has to be made available. And then you may even from there mediate an outcome from that. So, if they were to offer um a certain amount of money for that, you would have the ability to negotiate a contract from it. >> ult so it takes you through exercising the rights of the charter school >> and and just just to be clear if it's not an equitable deal through a charter school we're not required or mandated to make that deal. No, >> we just have to offer it. >> Correct. >> Just wanted to just wanted to state that. >> Yes. And it the law states we have to be able to enter into um good faith negotiations with the charter school. Um and it's an important part of that law, >> but it also states if that's if we sell on a lease. >> Which is not safe if we give it away. >> Correct. Um that's Yeah, >> I think >> I just want to >> So that's a that's a gray area because remember giving it away is almost like selling it, right? No, no, no. But it >> here you can have my phone $1,000. >> Which would you do? >> Well, you're going to give it to me for free. >> You sold it to me for nothing. >> So, I just that's an area I probably want to discuss with an attorney just to make sure. I don't want to use giving it away as a way to usurping um the offer to a charter school. I don't I'm not prepared to be able to answer that well for you. >> I just want in there. >> Yep. >> Um >> yeah, which is why I kind of started with the conversation. And I'm like, these are viable options. >> So, are you done? >> Okay. I didn't want to interrupt because I do that all the time. >> Yeah, that's okay. >> Um, so I'm I'm there's several different things with this. >> First of all, um, when we've given the schools away, >> we've had the voters vote on it >> and it's it's the entire school gets to vote on it. So, even the board want to give it away and put on there if the four towns might want might say no. Um, >> yeah. >> If we don't do that, if we do this whole lease thing, do the towns have to get to vote on what we do? Like, do we say, "Hey, we want to lease it to so and so." Is it would that be something goes on the ballot or is that just something we could do because we have the building? >> I'm agreeing with the community. >> The law that the RSA states only because I municipality rules match the district ones. The district can do a one-year lease without it being on the ballot. Then it has to go to anything longer than a one-year lease has to go to a vote of the taxpayers >> under the municipal rule. And that's I tied it back to the district >> and I know that Danbury is trying to do a charter school and get it going. They had a meeting I believe the other night. Um but they're not off the ground all the way and what I was told was and I read it someplace uh it takes about 18 months to make that happen. So, I don't I'm not sure how long that will take to get um so one of the considerations to me is it would make sense to keep us to keep that building if we're going to use it in the future. Definitely. But if we're not going to use it until then, it's a problem. I mean, cuz you got to have pipes, whatever. You know, the whole part of our savings was that we weren't going to be maintaining the building. So, we can't just have an empty building there. We got to be maintaining it regardless. So if we're going to keep it in any way, we ought to be using it. So somehow it's being paid for as you're suggesting. Uh but the my bigger a a big issue though to me is Danberry's mad. Um if we if we even if we give this to a charter school and and Prospect Mountain takes it, then Danbury can't take it or can't can't afford it. I don't believe Danbury is going to vote for anything. We need font if we're going to do the consolidation plan the way it's been coming at us. And that's 60% of the voters. And if the entire town of Vic Damry is mad at this, we we burned a big bridge. So it just thoughts, not not sighting, not just >> Yeah. I I mean the health of the building and a strong lease does help Danbury too because it will it will help with offsetting the cost of the building and offsetting it with a tax cap. The revenue alone is important. Um the cap is not on our budget. it's on a single revenue source. So, it's a revenue cap. Um, if you recall when we brought in Hill, it was a little bit controversial because it was one I think one of the only there's maybe one being negotiated right now, a below cost per pupil um contract and the purpose was there was little chance of us getting the unique dollar amount to bring them in, but you had the capacity. So for many people it only I think passed by two votes but at the same time it's it the decision to do it replace roofs, replace driveways. >> It yeah it paid for years overhead. >> Um and we were very careful with how we use that money too not to create cyclical costs at the expense of your infrastructure which is what we also want to do here. So, it's really just managing, unfortunately, we've got to manage revenue very carefully um in this district in order to allow us to progress with, you know, paying for costs that exceed inflationary levels. Um we there was no expectation in a 2% tax cap that we'd have special ed costs like this, right? There's no there's you have to have a 60% vote to get beyond it. And that's proved very difficult. I mean, you didn't get a 50% vote. >> So, um, part of why we're here is to say, look, we can do this intelligently. We can pay attention to the CAP and understand the responsibility that it has with it, but still spend the money. And, and this is another a perfectly good example is we would have to go to Damber and talk to them about look, the a good use of this building benefits you. um so and by offsetting the costs in your t own taxes. So, um, I it's it is a community a community decision whether or not legally you have to, right? You know, so I think that's the beginning stages. It's like even going out to bid. A lot of the times you don't know what this building could be used for. You may actually really like it. >> So, create create job opportunities and sustainability. there are things that could be returned to the community in other ways outside of the realm of education, >> right? So, I think you could go from being like initially, you know, there's a lot of emotion in right now, but it could be an opportunity for us to say, hey, look, if if you're going to consolidate or we're going to manage that process a little bit differently, hence the pause that you just voted on, can we use this building maybe to improve that? If we we you know move quickly without much thought, >> how is that going to affect you 15 years, 20 years from now? >> Well, it could contribute to the deficit instead of helping us get over it. >> Correct. And and it throws away options that you could still have had >> that you won't have. >> Yeah. I I mean, part of what we're doing here is trying to give you the best future and and actually do some planning. like don't just emotionally run into it for the budget cycle only. All right. So, there'll be nothing on the ballot as of right now in March for January. There can't be, >> Right. I just want >> We have to come up with a plan. >> Right. But I just wanted to make that a vocal statement because I don't want people to get misconstrued with that. Um because like I've said before, laws have changed since we gave back >> changing fast, >> right? Um and then you also have House Bill 1374 which is a little bit different with how you give things back too. So like there's all sorts of things moving. >> Yeah. I I did reach out to the Department of Ed and we got a response, but they just emailed us the law. >> I'm like, so that is something we could read. We're well aware of it. Um, but more importantly, it doesn't favor the perspective of the district and what districts should do. There was no guidance from the Department of Ed, which is indicative of some of what we've seen in legislation. It's like, so this is one of the things we've been founded on is public educ education. And it's like a cornerstone of being American in my opinion. And what >> so we're trying to do it thoughtfully. This is not of let's just make money off the building. It's like how can we make the most of this opportunity and while still providing us options and flexibility um for the future of the whole community and by future 30 years from now, right? These buildings last way longer than our our short-term memories and so do our kids and our grandkids and our families. So it's like just think about it a little bit. >> Appreciate all the information. >> Yes, we appreciate the digging. >> Okay. Schoolboard committee assignment. So we'll have to reassign committees and we'll bring it up at the next meeting. So Jake, I don't know. So, I did look up what he sent as to who has what and what has nothing. We don't have anybody on the wellness committee or the transportation committee. >> Yes. See, I know I was on the >> That's why I'm like that little checklist that's in my um schoolboard bag that I forgot. >> Well, because I know Joe was on that. >> Joe was, >> right? It was Joe and I. >> Joe was on facilities committee, >> right? Joe was on facilities. He was on >> So, we've got one for the budget committee, which is you. >> One for the facility committee, which is Dana. policy committee is Dennis and I. The curriculum committee is me and you. The building committee right now I wrote that now it's just Dennis >> Dennis for wellness me for tech council and then it's got or you and I because negotiations hasn't been added to this list was supposed to be you and me and then you on professional development as well. Wait. I wonder if I Okay, so Jake, if you can just email me what you're kind of interested in, if I need to reshuffle things, um, we can do that and then I'll send it out to everybody um before next meeting and then we'll vote on it. And for this month, we'll just kind of cover if any other meetings show up that isn't assigned, we'll just kind of cover and we'll work it out as a >> You could give the school board. >> Mhm. What was your [laughter] >> excited? You didn't mention >> you're bu doing building management now, right? So, facilities might be a good thing. >> Yes, that's a that's a good point. >> Um, [snorts] >> no, you get to go to the school board's association delegation meeting. That's all you, Dana. >> All right. Hall of Fame gymnaming dedication requests. >> Yes. Last year, um Jamie Larash had sent a request to the SAU um asking um if if we could potentially rename the New Found Memorial Gym or the New Found High School Gym for Mr. Blakeley um who was, you know, a teacher in the district for a number. >> Yes. Yes. Um, so I'm I'm following up on an agenda item from last year where uh Jamie Larash had submitted a request to uh rename the uh gym to in in in honor of Mr. Alan Blakeley who was a district employee for so many years. Um so and and I know there's um I don't know the the the process that goes along with it. I know that the high school has prepared a plaque, you know, in preparation for said event. Um >> I I talked to Mr. Tivy. >> Y >> and I can't >> I knew his dad. His dad is a lot. His name is Jay. Is this Jacob? >> His father. Yeah, his son. >> J I talked to him about that a few months ago and he said he was hoping to do it, but he really wanted to wait until we fix the gym up, get some paintings and stuff like that. I think that may not happen. Michael. Um, so that's all that's so it's we're still kind of in the works this RT was concerned, but >> And an issue is Al's had health issues for several years. So >> okay, >> so that's the request being put forward to the board. If it's something we want to move forward with, I will >> I mean we got the Mills oval for Mr. Mills >> and Al you got the Blakeley Mill scholarship which they folks have pushed for years. Al has like 14,500 kids on his Facebook page. One of my kids, one of my classmates got ALS. Al, you know, six years ago, Al and four of my classmates went to Michigan to see him. That's how that was. All right. I make a motion to um dedicate the high school gym in honor of Mr. Blakeley. >> I second it. >> Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I >> opposed. >> Abstensions. >> Well, that was the easiest motion and approval of the evening. >> Excellent. >> I just realized that when we updated the agenda, we [clears throat] lost one of the letters that I think we need. We never >> the student reassignment request is not on this agenda. >> It was on one of mine. >> So, the first one that they sent, but not the one that was updated today. So, it's not on the one that's printed. Okay. But it was on our first one. >> So we can do that. >> Because it was on the first published one and then I amended the agenda to add those two items from the original agenda. >> So we are fine. >> To do that. Sorry. >> No, that's fine. >> Not that. >> Thank you for noticing that because I would have just >> missed it. >> Missed it and I was reading my original agenda first. So um next new hires. >> Uh yes. So, we're excited uh to hire Cody Lambert as our facility director and uh Susan Guieri as our um middle school assistant principal. >> Okay. I make a motion to accept the new hires. >> Second. >> Done. >> Any further discussion? >> Opposed? >> I have a quick question. Right. Did he work here before? He like has been no >> because the building committee he was all new found up so >> that would be awesome. >> He had newfound gear on >> I didn't even notice that. >> Oh yeah. >> Okay. Next accepting resignations. >> Yes. Uh unfortunately, so Liliana Apante, our world language uh instru teacher, and Mark Miller, um middle school case manager in the special ed case manager. >> I'll make a motion to accept the reservations. >> I'll second it. >> All right, any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. >> I oppose. Abstensions. Okay, next Fisher Cats ticket raffle. So, at the June superintendent conference, um I won um 20 tickets to the Fisher Cats and thought it might be nice to either give them away to the community, set up some sort of a >> No, I didn't mean to me, Brian, [laughter] but guess what's happening this week? >> What is happening this week? >> The penny sale. >> Oh, the penny sale. >> That'd be a great prize option, buddy. >> Have it. >> How about that? Does that help the community? Right. >> Yep. So >> they gives $6,000 scholarship to a graduate here in Newfound. They do a lot in the community, the Rotary. So as you will know soon. >> So I have no objection. >> Yeah. If they give back. >> Sorry, Shanghai. That was on the [laughter] agenda, but I got there. >> Sheesh. >> I thought you was going to ask them. [laughter] >> So did I. >> I thought that was the hand. I don't I don't know if I could get 20 people to go with me to a game like that. Brian, >> you don't need >> I don't think you could, but that's >> I'll make a motion to allow those tickets. Do we need a motion to go to? >> Well, you won them for yourself or for the district. >> He just wanted to make >> um we're I would put I would donate them to Rotary if you were >> I'm just saying public, >> It will benefit the district and the community. >> No, no, I know. I'm what I'm saying is is if if he won them at the school um at the superintendent thing for himself >> then he can do whatever he wants. >> Yeah, they were for myself. >> But he right so he can we we as the school board don't have to because he didn't because I was more of a give to our It's very good of you. >> He just wanted everyone to know >> he wanted everybody to know now everybody can go on Thursday night to the Rotary penny sale and bid on >> it's a good advertisement. We'll put it in the paper. >> Right on, Tom. That's a story I would read, buddy. [laughter] >> Um, next we have um student reassignment request. [clears throat] we discussed um we need a motion for a decision for the student reassignment request. >> I make a motion to not allow the student reassignment. >> Okay, I will second. Any further discussion? Seeing none, all those in favor say I. I opposed. >> Sorry. Okay. Um and that is it for the meeting. Uh next we have our next public comment on agenda items. Only two minutes per comment. >> Yes. Go for it, Audrey. >> Thank you for coming, Audrey. >> You're welcome. My name's Audrey. [snorts] I'm from D. I'm one of the people who wrote the chatter. It has passed the legal aspect of the state of New Hampshire. Um, and I just want you to be aware of the HB1374, which you haven't read yet. Um, it does declare in that new law, which goes into effect in September, the governor has signed it in July, but since the school is not legally closed yet, you will fall under that states that if a town wants to um withdraw from the district, they only need the town vote. the district separation. It also states that if a school district closes a t school in a town, then they must give it to the town if they want. So just keep that in mind. That is the new law. And I know Alexandria and Hein, they gave a one room schoolhouse. They bought a one room schoolhouse back. But this law would affect New Bristol even somehow doesn't fit in it. So that would mean the only people who would be charging is the new law. >> I'm Erin Edwards. I don't live in the district. Um I am a teacher in the middle school. So Janine Negger's uh just spoke in public comments and she asked who is responsible for communicating uh the that we needed three majority or 60% for the CBA our teachers contract to pass. Melissa said [clears throat] that the attorney and the DRRA reviewed this. They check and they advise on how the ballot would be rigged and that you were under the impression that that you needed a simple majority. So you guys were not told to put three-fifths majority on that on for the CBA regarding the teachers contract. But Gordon, your lawyer, reached out finally to our uh lawyer, our AFT lawyer, Terry Dunovan. We've been waiting for him to respond to us for quite a while. Um Tyler, our president, was informed on the 14th of what's going on that we none of us have a contract. He then sent an email to the SAU requesting the DR letter with this in writing. He did not get a response. The 21st again, there was an email requesting that. Then Bordon responded finally on the 21st that he would get back to Terry, but he didn't. Then Terry emailed him again on the 3rd saying, "Hey, what's going on? We still haven't heard from you." And then he finally finally got in touch with her on Friday afternoon on the 6th after 5:00 and he sent her an email and the email said he said it was a mistake for the district and the union to assume that the artic the CBA article was adopted by a simple majority vote because the article did not have the required majority that's needed to override the district's cap. So, he is trying to blame the union and the SAU for this, taking no responsibility for it. But this is where it gets confusing because the NTU does not compose the ballots. Correct? We don't We're not involved in writing them up. We're not involved with reviewing them to make sure that they're correct according to the attorney or the DRRA. We're not involved with printing them, distributing them, counting them, reporting the results of them to the community or filing with them with the state. We have no involvement with that. Yet somehow we he's saying that we're responsible for being for assuming when we were told in a process that we have no involvement in. We just finding out the results. So we're mistaken for this thing that we actually have no involvement in which is I I think ridiculous. We have this we have 15 today is what the uh the 10th and we start on the 25th. We have 15 days and we have no teachers and we just found out from he just finally responded on the on Friday. So our union still does not have the SAU has not provided the um letter from the DRRA stating that the vote did not pass. Still, we still do not have it. The uh lawyer did not provide it to our lawyer. The lawyer did not provide it to our president. We have nothing. So, I just like I just I'm kind of trying to figure out like who actually does I want to know who does compose those ballots, who does review them, who does actually print them, who does distribute them, who counts them, who reports those results to the community and who files this with the state because somebody made a big mistake uh in I would say an egregious error. I mean, this is huge. And so, not only are we getting absolutely like like pretty, I think, horrific uh levels of communication after we have signed contracts back in May, made plans for our family, like you know, this is a huge financial decision and nobody's taking responsibility at all. And no one is even stepping up to actually like have a modicum of respect for us as professionals and employees of the district to try to make this right in any way like is there any type of you know accommodations that are going to be made because of this error anything that's going to be done. So this is the the union is I would say um staff members are pretty upset. We love I This is my favorite school I've ever worked for in all my years of teaching. And but I gotta I have to This is I'm making a living. It's not because I love kids like love the kids that I can go in every day. I also I love them, but I also have to, you know, pay my mortgage and and put gas in the gas tank and, you know, buy food for my family. So th the this, you know, just kind of not taking responsibility thing, I think really we need to know better what's going on. And the fact that like we still do not have that letter is very strange and it's making um the union as a whole very uncomfortable because we have no idea what's going on and there's 15 days we we don't have any teachers for the school system. None. Nobody signed a contract. We have I have people asking me of like, do you know when we're going to get the contract? >> Any further public comment? >> My name is Reage. I don't live in town, but I do teach at the high school. speak. >> So, as you just heard, the timeline of uh is very concerning to us and uh for we feel that it's very hard to conduct a group when we are not hearing any communication. Um even just the simple we receive your communication. There has been very little communication. I have spent my own summer trying to assure members the best I can with very little information to go on. I cannot tell you how stressed this makes myself, makes all of us as teachers. We get into teaching because we do care. I care deeply for each and every kid that comes to my classroom. But as we just stated, we all need to make a living. We are all just like you, all of us teachers. We pay our taxes. We have expenses. And just take a look at the world around you. Expenses and the cost of living are going up everywhere. Teachers counted on the SAU having told us back in March that the contract was offset, the issue contract. People counted on that raise. People counted on that cost of living increase that came in the contract. To have that taken away until the middle of July and then when we make requests so we can review the information, those requests go unanswered. It's very disheartening. Now, when I say is very hard to trust the SAU, I'm not arguing this at one person. I don't want anyone here to walk around thinking that I'm pardoning you. I'm saying as a whole, it's very hard to trust when there is no communication. I don't know about any of you, but if you did not know what your pay was going to be, what your health insurance was going to be, how much it was going to cost you, we are scared. We are concerned. We want to be here. We I wanted every day when I just saw I got to teach a push again. I want to be here, but if I can't afford to pay my own expenses to be here, how can I stay? I don't think any of you can blame any of us if we say I can't afford to stay here because I counted on that raise. I counted on what the SAU told me to be truthful and it was incorrect. I don't understand how we can go weeks without communication, how you can just act like this is not happening. People's lives and families are affected. We are scared and concerned and we feel those needs are not being adequately met. We feel the information we provided is not adequate. We [clears throat] hope this is fixed. Thank you. [applause] Go ahead. friendlow, New Hampton. Didn't think I'd be agreeing with Aaron and uh Tyler, but um I too asked for a copy of that letter from DR several weeks ago and I did not get it. And I asked, can I trust that I will be sent a copy of this letter or do I need to request it under 91A? I thought trying to be friendly that I would get it eventually and never got it. They have a very valid point. if they consider that they don't have contracts at the very least. And at the at the last school board meeting, it was made very clear that if they wanted to find another job that they could, that they were not going to be held to a contract that was now invalid. But the district should have reached out and said, "We cannot commit to the increase raised, but you still have a job. You will still get a paycheck that first week school." And for them to feel that they don't know if they have a job or not is wrong. And this district needs to address it tomorrow. Number one. Number two, it's not the union's fault. I think it falls on the attorney. I think we need to get another law firm because when if we're going to talk about responsibility, what triggered this was Rick Alpers from the budget committee when he got up at the deliberative session and added money to violate the tax cap that triggered the 60%. on the budget, on the teachers contract, on the HOA system. So if you want to point a figure and finger and say this is the person who's at fault, he was Rick Alton because the budget committee didn't agree with the tax gap. They didn't and they violated the state law and the DRA pointed out that they were in violation of it as well. But if you want to point the figure finger at the guilty person, that's who you can point it to. This is what we're left with. But the teachers deserve to know that they definitely have a job. Now, maybe some of them are not going to be ended up being hired. That decision should have already been made and those employees should have been let know before now. And you know, I question when DRRA notified the school. I don't question that they're correct in the 60% requirement. I question how it was handled. So, um I hope the district gets their act together and at least does that. And um we need to move forward. It was expressed at that last school board meeting that they were going to be doing some finetuning and they were hoping that they could find some money and come to an MOU with the teachers and maybe come up with well we can't honor the percentage rate or we can't honor the percentage on your insurance but we can go you know maybe an extra thousand dollar or maybe you know some other tomorrow for some negotiation. But if that hasn't been done, that's wrong. And and I I hope that gets addressed the right way. And I think it's totally ironic that we're talking about becoming landlords and leasing Danberry maybe forever to somebody else when all of a sudden when we were looking at buying the bank building, the public seemed to say, "Oh no, the school district has no business being a landlord." All right. And now here we are. The precedent is that the schools were given back to the towns who gave them to the SAU when we were formed. And that building should be given back to Danberry to do whatever they damn well please with it. And if a charter school is going to happen, then they can work with the charter school. But we shouldn't be getting involved with it at all whatsoever. It should follow president and go back to the town. >> Hi, Emil Crystal. I teach science here at the high school. Small point off of um France Point schools hire in the spring. So, by the time that you had already told us you have this opportunity, we won't hold it against you if you seek work elsewhere. The jobs were already taken. we don't have the opportunity to go find work elsewhere. So, we are now stuck in this rock and hard place of, you know, you guys won't hold it against us if we try and go find work elsewhere, but there is no work elsewhere and we also don't know if there's stuff for us here. Okay, that is a a hell of a rock and a hard place to be presented to us as a benefit. Thank you, [applause] Sarah. I'll hold your hand. So I am nearing retirement within a year or two. Unfortunately, all of my retirement earnings are based on my salary when I'm leaving. So that if my salary goes back to last year's instead of advancing to next year's year beyond, that's a continual financial loss for people that are close to retirement. and those of us that are close to retirement do not have 5 years to stay and wait while the salaries start building up and up and up again perhaps. So it's a negative for younger employees who aren't advancing to the system and it's negative for older employees who are now going to be active for the rest of their retirement. Jump on a point that was made earlier. Um, can we get an update on where we stand on these contracts that were going to be reviewed and are there contracts that can be reviewed to make some of this or do is that not something that can be done now because we haven't heard update on the 21st that will go through the attorneys, right? >> Communication back and forth will go through the attorneys. >> It'll have to go through the attorney. >> But we're not hearing back from the attorney. That's the only problem. He's not >> I can follow up, but >> but because because it's a because it's the union, it all has to go through the um through the attorney. Do you have suggestions if we're not getting responses from the attorney what we should do? >> I will follow up with Brian and and work on that. It's all I can I can't really say much unfortunately. >> Amy Fairbank Bristol. So I just want um the RSA policy that she knew about about the building going back to the town. >> Are you familiar with it already? So my question is is because I don't know it. So um if you is it because if you choose to close a building because you're not going to use it for student regular classroom time or you're going to change what you do in that building. >> It's also one of those house bills that we have to wait for the legal um opinion of how it's going to operationalize. >> So because I and I also wanted to speak to the fact that we talked about special ed and I've been you know, taking a break from being at these boards regularly. But there was a big time that we were in significant trouble with our special ed being outsourced. We had to bring them all back in and that brought us revenue back in um or we weren't paying out. And so if we know our special ed, it seems like numbers are getting bigger, not just in our school, but all around the state. Um our special ed is getting bigger and it's unpredictable about um how much we have to give to each student based on their needs. um and the fact that uh that could fluctuate all the time and mess with not only their their education but also our regular kids and we have to balance how we get that money. Doesn't it seem like revenue is going to have to be a big factor for us moving forward in which case we're going to have to find a way to be competitive revenue-wise and bringing money in. Even though it's not about it's about educating the kids, but if we're going to keep the buildings or keep kids coming here and families coming here, we've got to produce something worthy of it. And I know that like other schools have Huitt and what is common that that's a long-term goal for us and you know we have these buildings and if it doesn't affect that then maybe we need to start thinking sooner rather than later because I think we're going to be in the next couple years in the same thing. So, I'm wondering like I know you said that um you have a long-term plan, but is it big enough to be able to handle the increasing special ed process? >> Any further? Yes. Go ahead, >> Tom. Following up on that special education, there's the Lakes Region Superintendent Group that was looking to form a a basis for helping >> cover. I was just wondering what where that stands now. Is that part of >> what you're looking into or is that still in the distance? >> In the distance. >> In the distance. That was just a study committee. They had just got funding for study committee and get things going. We went to the meeting of about this like in August or whatever and it's still >> June >> still not off the ground yet kind of thing. It's just they were going to have another meeting about talking about how they're going to get some >> and share share costs. Yeah. >> Yes. Uh you should make yourselves familiar with the legislative report. They did a two-year study on special ed costs in New Hampshire and percentages. And that report just came out. I sent a copy to Paul. Um I could forward it to you, Melissa, and maybe you Brian for months. But um it stated how much over the state is compared to the national averages on special ed spending and cost and numbers, significant numbers. Um, it was a very lengthy report, very detailed, and I think we need to take a look at it because I think we overkill in many ways. The kids that really need it don't get the help they need, and the kids that really don't need it take up a lot of dollars. And there's no oversight over all of these contracts with booth services and on and on and on. The sky is unlimited. And that's what's gotten us into trouble. >> What was what was the reassessment of reassignment? >> What is that all about? >> I we voted that we were not doing it. >> What is it? >> Uh it's confidential. >> Well, does it have to do with the bathroom? >> Oh, no. No, no, no. It's a student request. We can't I can't discuss it any more than that. >> Oh, okay. >> Somebody Okay. Um any board member comments? Oops. Sorry. Sorry. I missed Janine again. Would uh could we please have a microphone next time? Um, we're kind of struggling back there sometimes with what you're saying. And I know at one point you either passed a hand one around or you had one. >> We've we've never done a microphone in here because >> we can maybe we can move the table next time. >> I think if we face that way it would be better. >> Yeah. Maybe maybe because of the ceiling. I don't >> the auditorium is really hard for us to hear anything >> because we can't hear each other. >> Okay. Yeah, maybe we can just re >> I think if we're all facing that way, it might be a little bit easier for next time if we reassess the table. >> We could just try that call. Thank you. >> Okay. Board member comments. >> I just want to throw out a reminder that because we've talked twice about the students starting on the 31st, don't forget seventh and eighth graders are on the 1st of September. teacher >> and I I read the special ed thing that Fran was talking about and one of the things he talked about was that the percentage of special ed kids is going up. >> I mean school populations are dropping but the percent so the percentage might go up anyway if it's the same amount but it's actually even more because they're finding more of them essentially. It's not going away. >> And one comment that I'd like to make is that despite everything that we're going through right now, everybody at this table, including Mike and Brian, are wholly committed to coming out on the other side of this in maintaining everything that we can to ensure continuity and care for the children and education that they deserve. Nobody has given up on this. Nobody is throwing their hands up in the air and walking away. This is an ongoing process that's going to require a lot of communication, a lot of effort, and a lot of collaboration and patience and grace and and sometimes we're as much in a bad spot as everybody else, but we're trying to navigate it as best we can. >> Go back to the original budget. I'm confused. These guys are saying they don't have >> Well, we'll we'll explain it. I'll I'll meet with you after Chris. >> All right. Any further board member comments? >> Seeing none, I need a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll second. All those in favor say I. >> Opposed. Okay.