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>> All right. Welcome to the select board
meeting for Wednesday, July 1st, 2026.
We will start with the pledge of
allegiance.
I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
>> Thank you all for coming. We'll start
out with the consent agenda which
consists of the profit and loss balance
sheet check manifest and payroll for two
weeks non-public and public minutes from
61726
acceptable use of IT resources policy
computer usage and electronic
communications policy PCD coordinator
and PCD assistant job description
updates April Rivers appointment form
for Boswin Police Department and a
timber intent
number 26-049-01-T,
map 47, lot 37, sublot one.
>> Do I hear a motion to accept the consent
agenda?
>> We just have one uh correction on the
minutes on line number 139.
Clerk is the works plural whether any
work of the work, but there will be only
one work. There could be several works.
We don't know. So
that's my only uh
Just to correct the uh lot numbers 31 on
that timber intent.
>> Yeah. M 47 lot 31.
>> All right. So, do I hear that motion
with the amended minutes?
>> Uh
did you have an amendment?
>> Oh, no. I was going to second with the
amended minutes.
>> Motioned, seconded. All in favor? I
>> All right. We're going to do things a
little out of sort and we're going to
jump to public.
We know there's busy individual from the
public. Feel free.
>> Well, thank you very much. I was not
expecting special treatment.
>> Um, hi everyone. I'm Sarah Rogers. I'm
running for county attorney. I I left my
pamphlets out for you all to peruse.
I've met uh Chief Kari previously. I
came because I wanted to talk to you all
tonight about my campaign. Uh since
Boswin is part of Marramac County and
the county attorney's office serves your
town for all of the felony level crimes
that occur in Boswin.
And a little bit about me, I'm born and
raised in Marramat County in conquered
New Hampshire. I was born I lived in
Pittsville, New Hampshire growing up and
I live in conquered New Hampshire now. I
care really deeply about this county and
the people in this county and I know the
people in this county. I know the moods
and the different uh styles of each
town. Um I know people who live in
almost every single town. I have four
sisters, 12 nieces and nephews. Um we're
all spread out across this county and
across this state. And so this is deeply
personal to me. Uh criminal justice is
not necessarily something that people
think about daytoday.
save for of course Chief Galari, but
it's been my passion since I was a
little girl and I grew up wanting to be
a prosecutor.
I became a prosecutor first after I
graduated from law school and I've
worked in three different county
attorney's offices in the state. I've
worked in Rockingham County Attorney's
Office, Hillsboro County Attorney's
Office, and Marramat County Attorney's
Office. I've handled thousands of cases
um from stolen birthday card to sexual
assault, stabbing, um the whole gamut.
And I've done 49 criminal jury trials.
That's really important because as the
chief could tell you, um anybody can be
a paper pusher. Anybody can call
themselves a prosecutor and plea things
out um to to lesser charges with
suspended sentences. And I can tell you
a lot of that is going on at the
Marmmont County Attorney's Office right
now. When I worked there for the three
years I worked there, I was pretty
shocked to see how much of that was
going on and how much the prosecutors
there were more concerned about their
good relationships with the public
defenders office than they were about
serving justice and serving the victims
in Marramac County. And that's something
that I want to change.
I'm not sure how much you have been
following the news about bail reform.
Don't raise your hand. Anybody else?
Yes. Okay, Lori. So, bail is a really
important concept, right? Because
somebody commits a crime, you're
innocent until proven guilty in this
country, and we let you out on bail.
Bail can be money, sure, but usually
there are conditions attached to it. You
don't commit further crimes. Maybe you
don't come into contact with the person
you committed a crime against or the
store you stole from in Bosquin that
doesn't want that shoplifter back in the
store.
And then people violate those conditions
of bail. And what happens?
>> Nothing.
>> Nothing.
Well, we have a new bail law that says
if people violate their conditions of
bail, the prosecutor can file a motion
to to hold them. We need a county
attorney who's going to make sure that
the prosecutors are filing those
motions. And the way we're going to do
that is have actual supervision in that
office, hold people accountable. We're
holding the public accountable as
prosecutors, but no one is holding those
prosecutors accountable. How many trials
did the county attorney's office do last
year?
You're contributing. You're paying for
that service as part of this county.
Shouldn't you know that? They don't even
know that. They're not keeping track.
They can pretty easily. They already
have a system to do that. Prosecutor by
Carpel. You might know about that
because county paid for them to have
that system, but they're not using it to
the extent that it can be used, that
it's being used in Rockingham County
where they can pull these data reports.
That's something that I want to change.
I have a very, very deep um commitment
to working with children, crime victims.
I worked at CASA New Hampshire. That is
the courtappointed special advocates.
They train guardian items who uh
represent children in abuse and neglect
proceedings.
When I was a prosecutor, that was a huge
passion for me. And what was really
bothered me when I worked at the
Marammont County Attorney's Office was I
saw the disperate treatment depending on
who your prosecutor was
because some victims come into that
office and they're treated very, very
well. They're met with multiple times.
They are met with patience and concern
and someone who's explaining things to
them and giving them a voice in the
process. And sometimes they're met with
somebody who doesn't want to deal with
it, just wants the file off their desk.
And yeah, again, please things down
without maybe even consulting them.
And I'm going to change that because
there's going to be supervision in that
office. There's going to be
accountability for the people who are
holding other people accountable.
I've also worked in the court system. I
think our Marramac County attorney
should understand the judges that you're
in front of because they're the ultimate
decision makers on a lot of things when
it comes to matters of law. And the
judges should know the county attorney
and trust the county attorney's
judgment.
>> Those Marmac County at those Mar County
judges do know me. They do trust me. I
worked as a clerk at the Marramac County
Superior Court.
And when I was a prosecutor there, they
thanked me more than once for my
judgment and the way that I was handling
cases and the way that they could see
that I prepped victims to get them
through trials.
I have not just the experience to do
this job, I have the knowhow to do it
well. I have the relationships within
that office because I was there for
three years and I am still very close
with a number of very very good people
in that office. But I also have the
knowledge of the people in that office
who are not doing a good job and I know
how to hold them accountable because
that's what I do now as a manager.
>> So I see now why you wanted to answer
that question when we were all here
rather than say it twice.
>> Um but um thank you for for giving us an
update on your position. I do not know
what political party you are and quite
frankly it doesn't matter to me but it's
interesting to hear what you're
passionate about.
>> It's the first time we've had somebody
come in in the five years that I've been
on board to speak on their behalf and
talk about their candidacy. So, welcome
and thank you.
>> Well, thank you. Um, I came because like
I said, Marramac County is my home. Uh,
I really care about the towns in this
county and I would love the support of
all of the people in this county where I
where I was born and raised. I believe
I'm the only candidate who was um and
and I am very very passionate about
this. I'm putting in 100% effort into
this campaign just like well I'll put
100% effort into being the Marat County
Attorney. And I think if you were to ask
any of the victims on any cases that I
tried, um, they would tell you the same
thing. And to me, that's what keeps me
going. That is what inspires me in this
campaign. And
that is the that's the ultimate opinions
that I really care about. But um I just
know that if any of you were unlucky
enough to end up in my office or a
friend or a loved one, I say this
because I mean it. I would be the
prosecutor you would want on your case
and I think I'm the prosecutor that
Marmmont County deserves.
>> Well, thank you. Thank you for coming
here and sharing with us.
>> Appreciate it. Yes. It's nice that uh
candidates, this is a great forum to
introduce yourself. And uh I wish more
people would do it because if you're if
you're unknown, then how do you know?
And it's nice to hear you're still
passionate about the uh oversight and
stuff.
>> And should you win? I hope you'll come
back periodically because quite frankly,
I don't think we've seen any of the our
elected officials come here.
>> Nope. We just stare at ourselves.
>> Well, thank you very much for having me.
Any questions from anyone else?
>> I know you're all very passionate about
criminal justice. No.
>> Yes.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> Good. Thank you.
>> Any further public comment this evening?
>> He's with me.
>> Okay.
>> All right. Hearing none, we're moving
off.
>> Hello, fiance.
>> Actually, we met at a trial. I'm a
trooper. Ah, nice.
>> I enjoy it.
>> Have a good night.
>> Good night.
>> All right. Fiscal year 27 enforcement
materials grant chief.
>> Um, so this is the office of highway
safety uh for granted
for
capital 27 which begins in October. Um,
I'm going to give you the paper that you
have to read
>> and say that it's accepted and then if
you want you can sign all red things or
anything like
>> I nominate Chief Hillary
>> do all of the signing and reading if
that's possible then you have to read
it. So firsted and seconded. All in
favor?
>> I.
>> All right.
All right. Guidance for meeting minutes
verbatim for grant acceptance. No
amendment. The select board in a
majority vote accepted the terms of the
highway safety grant as presented in the
amount of XX XXX
for grant except
>> $6,900.
Okay.
>> $6,900.
for grant acceptance with amendment. All
right. The slide board vote accepted the
terms of the highway safety grant as
presented in the amount of $6,900 and
the amended grant terms in the amount of
no amendment.
So, we have no amendment. We only have
to read the top portion then.
>> That's right.
>> Yes. Perfect. We're not amending the
amount.
>> All right. They're not amending any of
it. So,
>> we're not refusing any of it. So,
>> to reiterate, the select board in a
majority vote accepted the terms of the
highway safety grant as presented in the
amount of $6,900.
>> Do I hear a motion?
>> I would move to accept that as written.
>> Do I hear a second?
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor?
>> I.
>> So, now the question is what are you
going to spend it on?
>> Well, so it is for supplemental
controls. So there's different
categories
uh like there's part of it is for
student go out busy day or whatever just
speed
>> or 3 in the morning
>> depends upon where it is.
There's also mobilizations which we have
to do the contract and those are the
click of the ticket drive silver get
over campaign sanitize uh they give us
money for that we have to participate
but there's other funds that we're
allowed to use whenever we
should for instance this weekend great
funds
>> holiday it's prime time for cross
beverage and this money will of us put
people out there. We pay them up front
and then quarterly I do a bunch of
paperwork with Kate's wonderful help
oversight and then get that money back
from they and it comes back into our
budget. So the $6,900 that we've been
approved for um we can spend that in
cash but none of it will be online
essentially. So it's good.
>> Okay. So, speaking of this weekend and
where the Fourth of July does fall on a
Saturday and last Saturday, I remember
Fourth of July,
the Jamie Welch Park was packed, so you
couldn't even walk through there.
>> So, are you expecting the same?
>> Myself, Chief Kenny, Chief Bretel, we
all sat down the other day and had a pow
and went over kind of a game plan,
preparation. There's a lot of stuff
going on. Obviously, a very dangerous
weather event. Yes. right now. Um so
we're looking at how we're going to be
proactive and reacting to those types of
emergencies. Um you know, we're ending
that hot crescendo weather on a
Saturday, July 4th, America 250. So we
had that series of possible events. Um
so we all kind of, you know, hashed it
out, figured out what we need to do,
what we should do, and think we're in a
good spot. But yes, we'll be down at the
park because I talk to the supervisor
who are regularly making sure there's
access making sure the kids are cool and
being taken care of.
>> Yeah.
>> PSA out on the website the other day
about heat safety.
We're trying to make sure we stay ahead
of it as much as possible.
>> And it's possible the other the
unofficial Boswin Beach might be a
popular spot over by Hannah Dustin.
So Handson's always a popular spot.
Right now the beach I think I haven't
checked at hand
shring start to be a little bit more
exposed.
>> So anywhere there's water sand I just
assume there's going to be
>> but yeah we're going to be all over it
as best we can. We're going to be double
uh staffed uh from Friday through
Sunday. So just
>> I say I anticipate a lot of river
flowers this weekend.
>> Yeah. It's kind of perfect storm and
then add in the rivers high. So
>> yeah,
>> rivers high river road was where we had
a tragic accident fourth of July weekend
>> few years ago too. So it's you know kids
it's kids kids out
>> that just gets everyone more. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Anything else, Chief? Are you good?
>> All right. Uh, proclamations for
businesses. I was recently informed by
HR at Electra Solola. They have a 50th
anniversary celebration coming up in
September. Um, they asked if the board
might be willing to do a proclamation
for that 50th anniversary. We don't
really have anything in place for
criteria for issuing these. So, I kind
of put together a proclamation policy um
with conflict of interest standards for
the board saying we are a small town.
Some of our employees work at these
businesses. Um I wasn't sure if the
board was on board with the policy
itself had any changes that they would
request.
>> I I like I liked it as um presented. I
thought it was a good and you know as we
use it we'll figure out the flaws like
we do every policy we put together.
>> So if if you are all set with moving
forward with that policy I just need a
motion to approve it.
>> I'd make a motion to approve.
>> Do second.
>> I'll second.
>> All in favor?
>> I
>> I
>> and uh did put together a proclamation
for Electra Solola. If the board is all
set with the wording related to that you
could read it into the record. Um,
another thing I wanted to mention is
that they've asked if somebody from the
board would be willing to present it at
their um, anniversary celebration in SE
in September.
>> I believe it's September 12th. Time to
be determined.
>> What about all of us? Could all of us do
it?
>> I just have to post it.
>> Notice it.
>> Notice it. Yeah.
>> I just have to recuse myself.
Um, I just want to mention since we're
talking about this business that um,
this year is Smoke Shack's 20th uh,
anniversary here in Boswin. Next year is
Ross Express's 80th and Black Forest
Nurseries 50th.
>> So, just uh, kind of if I'm not around,
will you guys please remember?
>> That's important. Um, so should I do the
whereas?
>> So
>> do you want to see the where?
>> Are there any formal recusals regarding
this?
>> I think he just said he
>> confusing.
>> Uh, we could just have you. How's that?
>> Okay. Town of Bosin, New Hampshire
proclamation in honor of the 50th
anniversary of Electrosola. Whereas
Electroa Inc. was established in Boswa,
New Hampshire in 1976 as the Electrosola
Group first fine wire manufacturing
plant outside of Europe. And whereas for
the past 50 years, Electroola Inc. has
grown into the largest manufacturer of
fine and ultrafine enamelled copper wire
magnet wire in North America and it's
expanded their business further into
platted wire, multi-ended wire
production, and medical tubing. Electro
Solola has proven time and time again
that it is dedicated to the growth of
the organization by operating a
state-of-the-art facility spanning
nearly six acres on High Street. And
whereas Electra Solola Incorporated
serves as a foundational pillar of the
Boswin business community and an exempl
exemplarary
local local employer fostering a
familyoriented workplace culture that
values its exceptionally talented
workforce. And whereas this 50-year
milestone of continuous operation
without a single layoff is a powerful
testament to the dedication of its
employees, its industry-leading
engineering, and its unwavering
commitment to safety and excellence. Now
therefore, we, the select board of the
town of Baswin, New Hampshire, will
recognize September 12th annually as
Electraola day and encourage all
citizens to join us in congratulating
Electrosola Incorporated for 50 years of
outstanding contributions to our local
economy, community, and the global
industry.
proclaimed this first day of July 2026
by the town of Boswin select board
>> here here
>> here here
>> and I and I want to add to that only
because I'm the elderly member here that
remembers all these old things uh
Electra Solola was the first business in
the town of Boswin if I remember
correctly the first large business in
the town of Bosquin to receive the New
Hampshire business in the arts award for
its support of arts in our community. So
that was like back in the 90s.
>> To this day, every year money is donated
to music institutes to continue growing
the arts.
>> And and I will say in full disclosure,
the Conquered Community Concert
Association, of which I am president,
has been a longtime recipient of one of
their many, just many awards.
>> Can you sign that?
>> Yeah, he can sign it. He can. He's
>> He didn't vote on it.
>> He didn't vote on it. Yeah. Yeah.
>> But the proclamation has been made by
us.
>> I will get a nice frame for this.
Make it look nice for September. And um
try to figure out what time
>> and your your eites have already been
sent.
>> Oh,
>> and just a reminder that I think our
cruise night is the same day.
>> It is the same day. What time is this?
Um I hope it's a lunch Friday.
>> Excuse me.
>> Friday
>> was moved
>> because it was September 11th.
>> Not good. Yeah. Yeah.
>> How did the um three of the select men
go out and um get electro
to come to town?
>> Yep.
>> They Yes. They recruited them.
>> Surprise.
>> Surprise.
>> Yep. Whoever owned the white farmhouse
up on top of Good Huegh, not the one
with the big
>> that's up on the tier
>> Jones. No,
>> that's the Jones.
>> That one left.
>> Yeah, if you're going up
>> Jones farm. Y
>> the terrace frontyard.
>> Wow.
That's Yeah,
>> that's where that map came from. That is
MIA now. But it was just a map of Boswin
and just a little blue ink pen square
saying future home of Electra Solola.
>> It's really it shows the the importance
of the select board in terms of economic
development and going out and recruiting
businesses. It's just really important,
you know, and look what a good partner
they've been in the community. So,
>> perfect. Thank you for that. All right.
Uh capital reserve transfers, Kate.
Therely three of them there. So I will
pass that way.
>> There you go.
>> That was not a tiny one.
>> Definitely not a tiny one.
>> It was just wanted to spend money today.
>> All right. Make a motion that the
trustees of the trust fund transfer
$45,184
from the police cruiser capital reserve
fund to the general fund to reimburse
for the following expenditure. McGovern
MHQ Inc. invoice number 2000
013557
$45,184.
Motion made by me. Do I hear a second?
>> I'll second.
All in favor?
>> I.
>> All right. I make a motion that the
trustees of the trust fund transfer
$119,450
from the public works building capital
reserve fund to the general fund to
reimburse for the following
expenditures. Electronic security
protection invoice number 34897
in the amount of $5,368.
Shaker Heights Custom Homes in LLC final
payment $100,000
and Trusted Fire Protection LLC invoice
number 1113793
in the amount of $394.
I made the motion. Do I hear a second?
>> Second.
>> All in favor?
>> I.
>> It was a tough second. That's a lot of
money.
>> It's a lot of money.
So I I do have a quick question
regarding that one. So that's the final
payment to Shaker Home.
>> That's what it said on the invoice.
>> So yes,
>> do we now then know what the balance is
in that?
>> I'd have fun.
>> Okay.
>> All right. Lastly, I make a motion that
the trustees of the trust funds transfer
$128,000
in the Fire Station Capital Reserve Fund
to the general fund to reimburse for the
following expenditure. Manusi Design LLC
deposit $128,000.
That motion is made by me. Do I hear a
second? Second.
All
>> in favor?
And this is the initial payment for the
fire station. Do they know when they're
breaking ground?
>> No, I'm waiting on architectural
renderings at this point. So, I have not
heard that.
>> Okay.
>> information yet.
All right, Gary, do you have anything?
>> Yes, I do. Um,
>> doing a lot of projects, but um I wanted
to visit back about the elevator.
I sent you an email a couple weeks ago
that uh they want like $15,000 to change
the hydraulic oil in that. And I wanted
to bring Josh up to date on some of this
information.
Our elevator
was installed in March of 2003,
so it's now 23 years old. I did some
research uh going on two years ago. We
need uh two or three items to upgrade.
One of them is this. This is called the
hydroenhancer.
This is the motherboard of the elevator.
Because this elevator is so old, it is
obsolete. However, Otus has re in red
refined it, created this new board to
bring it more current, up to date. They
also have what's called um door
operators
that need to be replaced. Elevators can
last indefinitely. You just have to keep
putting money into them, replacing
things.
So we uh had looked at all this almost
two years ago and came up we need two
door enhancers. The uh the hydroenhancer
the door operators excuse me. And at the
time if you purchase these things
separately they would have come up to
$77,000.
They had offered us if we par purchased
all the things simultaneously
we could have got it at a price of
53
59,000
and at that time uh the person I was
talking to said her manager would give
us a 10 additional 10% which would have
brought it up to 53,000 to have that all
done. We didn't do anything.
So to do these things separate is still
77,000
probably more than that. Now on top of
that is the oil change 15,000. To
clarify that they want 12,500
to do the oil change, 2500 to take the
oil away.
I'm going to be talking with Connor
about that. He might be able to burn it
at the transfer station, but we're
looking at $92,000
to do this piece by piece. I know if we
ever did this all at one time, I think
we could comfortably probably cut
$20,000 off that 92, bring it down to
say 77
in that area. I also included a copy of
the Pine Street Elevator, Pine State
Elevator Company at the time. The reason
with Otis, everything is proprietary.
So, they can name whatever price they
want and we have to pay the price
because it's their elevator. They're the
only ones that make it. But when I went
to Pine State, they could redo this
elevator so anybody could operate it.
They came up with a price at the time of
$126,000.
That would be to re reut the whole thing
so anybody could take care of it, work
on it, not just the proprietary Otus. So
Otis, as high as their prices are, is
still less costly than to bring somebody
else in.
So the reason I wanted to bring this up
was because I sent you out that
additional $15,000 for the oil change.
Now,
our elevator doesn't operate like some
elevators that are 247,
so it it doesn't wear out as fast as
some elevators. That's why it's still
running pretty comfortably after 23
years.
We have two options. Is to wait until
these things break and then have them
fixed individually and we'd spend 70
thou 77,000 over time.
Or we can have it bite the bullet and
have it all done at once and save some
additional funding.
I don't feel that we really need to do
this at this point because it's running
fine.
If it does go, if the hydroenhancer
goes, uh, the elevator will be down for
a couple of weeks and we'd have to pay
whatever price they're asking for it.
The same with the doors. It's a
mechanical thing that will wear out over
time. So, I just wanted to bring you
current on this. As I said, Josh, you
hadn't seen this that we keep kicking
this can down the road, but someday we
may want to look at this and say, "Let's
get it done."
>> So, is the oil change needed? I mean, is
there some
>> I'm talking to the people right now. I
They were supposed to have a telephone
conversation with me last week and the
guy I guess he was on vacation or
something. I'm trying to find out. I was
told by the the guy who works on it that
there is no filtration system. It's a
closed system.
>> Yes.
>> Now, oil doesn't
decompose or anything. It just gets
dirty.
>> Well, unless it's there's a leak. Is
there a leak in the system or you know,
>> he says there's there's no leaks or
anything. So,
>> has he has he uh taken any out to look
at it to see?
>> No, he has. I think you've got the
>> So, how much of this is upselling, which
they tend to do?
>> Well, I think $1,000.
>> Yes, I know. Upselling.
>> I think it's uh
it's anybody's guess. I mean, it's a
closed system. I They're saying it's
been like uh years since we've had that
oil change, but the guy who works on it
says, you know, should be fine.
>> Do they have record of when the last
time it was? They I haven't been able to
find that information out.
>> So, the day it was installed,
>> probably.
>> It could be. It could be. Yeah.
>> But if it's a closed system, it should
be okay.
>> I have a question. If we have a
catastrophic failure, do we need to
close this building because of ADA?
>> If people can't get to this meeting
room, do we have to relocate services?
>> That is a
>> If it's a long-term
>> That's a good question. And uh we have
presented before if they do this work
it's going to be closed down for a
period of time. It might be a week or
two.
>> So regardless of whether it's an
emergency situation or a planned event,
it's going to be a couple.
>> It's going to be closed. And it's my
understanding that we can manually
uh help somebody up the stairs in a
situation. Is that correct? And
>> provide staff assistance. Yeah, I think
>> at a minimum you'd have to have your
select board meeting somewhere else.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We could have them out in
the park.
>> As far as coming up to see people, I'm
sure that someone up here could go
downstairs and make accommodations. That
would be reasonable. But um obviously a
public meetings would
>> Yeah.
>> EBA
conservation.
>> Yeah.
>> Whole bunch of them.
>> Yeah.
>> Can we move it to the PD PD?
We can make we can make arrangements for
>> if needed.
>> You can also the lunchroom downstairs
holds quite a few people in there.
>> PD's meeting room is much better
set up than that one.
>> Answer to the question. Yes, it's going
to be shut down for
>> either way.
>> Yeah. Something to keep in mind. So
regardless of whether we do a planned
repair or an emergency repair, it's
going to be a couple weeks out of
service.
>> I believe so. Yes.
>> So you'd want to if you were planning
it, you'd want to time it with a holiday
where you're closed anyway.
>> Not planning board meetings.
>> Well, you not want them to come in on a
holiday
even more.
>> Yes. Like if is there any difference to
like, hey, let's plan this or hey, this
just broke. So price difference in like
an emergency call out
>> probably.
>> Yes. If you buy these, if one of these
breaks, if if the door operator breaks,
you're going to pay um the full price of
$26,000
to fix that one piece. Um, so if you
bought the two door enhancers and the
hydro, the hydroenhancer, the door
operators, it'll be 70 um 77,000 to buy
them individually.
If you bought them all at once a year
and a half ago with a discount, we could
have got all of them for 53 $54,000.
So now it's that 77 is probably
85 now buying them individually, but I'm
rel quite sure we would get a 20 to
$25,000
discount
if we purchased it all in one one shot
because that's how they operate. And I
the fellow I'm dealing with has kind of
told me off the cuff. He says, "Yeah, if
you can get this all done at once, we
can certainly deep discount it."
>> I'd be curious to see what it would be
if you just had them or ask them if they
could have these parts on standby. So
build that secondary board to replace
it, have it on hold. So if it comes time
that it does [ __ ] out, you could just
here at least the parts there and you
can come in and install it.
>> They would
all you have to pay
>> they would want us to purchase it. You
had to purchase it, but you wouldn't
have the labor expense right on the top.
>> Yeah.
>> So if that
>> but it was just going to go up two weeks
because you don't have
>> right.
Um,
>> or the other thing is, you know,
I hear what you're saying about
proprietary, but shouldn't we like bid
this out and see if there are any other
elevator companies that might be willing
to do it?
>> Well, that's what I did with and that's
why I copied you with the uh Pine State
quote. They were
>> Pine State was the only one. Yes, there
was Stanley and Stanley said, "We don't
we're not interested because it's it's
Otis and they're all proprietary." Yeah.
We
>> we can't get get their parts. They can't
buy they can't buy the hydroenhancer.
They can't buy the door stuff that Otus
sells. Pine State cannot buy that stuff.
That's why they say, "We'll come in and
regut the whole thing for $126,000."
And now other elevator companies can
work on it.
>> Yeah. They'll put like a generic
>> control thing on.
>> Exactly. They're going to take out all
the proprietary stuff and install
generic stuff.
>> Has uh anybody complained about the
elevator not operating correctly or
shaking or any weird
>> No, we
>> No one's gotten stuck in it.
>> No, we take care of it. Um, you know, we
have it uh every six months. I think we
have them come in and inspect it and
check it all out. Um,
it's I've noticed occasionally if you
come in and it's been sitting all night,
the first time it goes off, I go, "You
hear a bang?" And I've asked him several
times. I said, "What's going on? Is it
low on fluid?" He says, "No, that's just
the gasket, the rubber gasket that just
it's no not dangerous or anything. just
sitting there. It gets relubed once it
starts going up and down again. Says
it's there's nothing wrong with it. So,
uh,
and in our
capital reserve fund, we do have money
that we're putting aside for this.
I have other projects, too. You never
know what's going to come up, but
>> Yeah. But this would wipe out your
capital reserve to do this.
Yes, because uh we just or
>> we just used a third of the whole thing
for that
>> project that's technically not needed
until it's needed.
>> There you go.
>> And you could you could have one thing
fail this year and another thing fail
three years from now or five years from
now.
>> That's correct. That's correct. That's
why uh the reason I wanted to bring it
up because now they're saying another
thing of $15,000 for an oil change. This
has gone from $18,000 to $92,000 in a
matter of what, four years?
>> Yes.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yep.
And enhancer sounds very
>> sounds very sexy.
>> Yes.
>> It's a circuit.
>> It's a circuit board for it. Exactly.
>> And they they just name their price.
What do you think we should charge for
this? I mean, they got you under a
barrel, over a barrel. It's
>> I think the lesson learned here is from
now on buy sort of universal generic
>> products so that they can be repaired by
anybody
>> singlestory building.
>> Yeah, that's me.
>> You never have that cost to start with.
>> Much easier to be ADU that way.
>> That's true. Yeah. I I I would say if if
you start getting maintenance calls for
the elevator being like I would like you
to at least let us know. Yeah.
>> Um
I worked with for years in buildings
with a lot of elevators got a lot of
use. Usually you'll start getting
symptoms
>> that problems are happening like the
door might get jammed up but then open
and it just gets more frequent to all of
a sudden it doesn't open at all.
>> Exactly.
>> I feel like that's that's you know
that's what I'm thinking. Well look at
it. That's a mechanical thing that goes
on. And if we do it piece by piece, uh,
it's 20 $30,000 more, but it's not all
at once.
>> Now, what about the motherboard? Did you
have that? I remember at one point you
talked about the control.
>> Yeah, that that was going to be 20,000
all by
>> That's the hydroenhancer.
Oh, that's the sexy circuit board
>> proprietary board. Not to be confused
with the hydraulics of Yes. Okay.
>> Um, this is a very popular elevator.
It's been a real horsepower
workhorse, I want to say. And they
decided to upgrade this
uh motherboard
to bring it more modern, up to-date. So
this doesn't even address the mechanical
hydraulic features.
>> No.
>> Okay.
>> This is the old
>> the doors. That's it.
>> Okay.
>> And um so I that's where we're at. If
you have any questions at this point, do
you want to move the table this?
Do you have a copy of the quote and how
they broke out the cost of each item?
>> Yeah, I have put it right in there.
>> I'd be interested.
>> If you look at the the uh email from
Otis,
this was back when I was asking
questions. And you can see
>> last year. Yep.
>> Yeah. It was January of 2025.
You can see they had the hydroenhancer
at 20
the operator door because we have two
doors. There's 26,000 each. And then
they broke it down. If we bought the
operator,
one operator and the hydrohancer,
we would save
$3,000.
I had it all broken down there.
Yeah, it's it's already
>> This is your page that's broken down.
>> This is my page taken off of her
information.
>> Okay.
>> I can't remember anything anymore. I
have to have pictures of everything.
Okay.
All right.
>> Yeah. I'll reiterate my I think we table
this until we actually
>> Well, my concern is if we do it. So
92,000, how much have you got in capital
reserve?
Kate, you own that.
>> Top of my head,
>> we just took about a third of it out for
him.
>> And who knows if you even have it?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Well, that's what I'm wondering.
>> Because you're just I think she probably
just said the transfer.
>> Yeah.
>> But
>> I wasn't.
>> These are January 2025 peak tariff time.
>> Yes. Maybe if things have leveled out a
little or even I mean probably not but
there's wishful thinking.
>> Does anything ever come down? You know
>> not usually.
>> No, just just to bring you up to date.
So because we hadn't talked about it for
a couple of years.
>> Yeah.
>> I just want to take one more minute. Um
I'm I'm working on
we have a generator. I don't know if you
got Did you get my email on that?
a new generator.
>> No, this is a a 60 kilowatt generator
down at the transfer station.
>> Oh, transfer station
>> and I have been looking at I have a
email from Alan Hardy that we own it. It
used to be Comcast. It's got 600 hours
on it and I've been in touch with um
PowerUp generator who takes care of our
generators. I've given them all the
information on the existing generator.
There's a question about three-phase
versus singlephase,
but I'm looking in to see what it would
cost to analyze and upgrade that
generator to fit down at the um
>> fire station.
>> The fire station. We were looking at
>> 30,000 to put a new generator in there.
But if we can spend 2,000 or I don't
know what, 5,000,000 to
upgrade this and move this over. Uh,
that's just one one project that I'm
working on.
>> How many hours does the one the fire
station have now?
>> No idea.
>> Leak the leaky one.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> This one would be significantly larger,
too, wouldn't
>> larger. Yeah. And
>> we still have a We're looking at $6,000
right now for a repair job for that
Olympic, which is obsolete. which
>> one the one the one at the fire station
>> we need to spend now we need to spend
5,000 on it
>> so might as well spend 5,000 on
upgrading a better quality
>> that's what I'm working on trying to see
if I can make it happen
>> sounds like a plan
>> okay thank thank you for your time
>> well at least you ended on a positive
note Gary you know
>> thank you still positive he's just not
spending $98,000
Um, so Dean last year had encumbered uh
money to have a guardrail fixed on Queen
Street. And I'm not sure if you guys are
aware of it.
>> Yes.
>> Um, right on that sharp corner. Must
have been hit and damaged. Um, CWS
reached out, met up with them. I think
it was a few weeks ago. They sent a crew
out. Kind of miscommunication on I think
it was mainly on their end. They came
out and basically said, "Yeah, we can't
fix this." The the two end units on the
guard rail, I guess, are banned.
>> Yes.
>> Um so they're not they're no longer
production. They can't
>> from what I gather, they couldn't use
use what they had to attach onto those
those old end units. Um so basically we
came up to the idea that they had to uh
they went back, took some more
measurements, um came up with a new
proposal. Um, but it was quite a large
difference. It was about $9,000
difference. Um, so I guess I'm looking
for some suggestions on where you where
to get the money from. I know I've been
talking with Kate to she might be able
to better explain some of the ideas that
we have, but these are just some of the
emails.
>> People that hit the guard rail.
>> So Dean encumbered 5,000. That's for 14.
Yeah. Um, we talked about a couple
things just looking at a budget line
transfer, but we have a lot of those
we're looking at this year already. Um,
I know we had the town safety capital
reserve fund that sounded like we were
kind of trying to use up. Um, I think
there when we looked there was like 10
grand in there. And then there was also
talk of impact fees for the chip ceiling
of Cornel Road. So if we used some
impact fees towards that, it'd be less
out of the budget and he could do just
pay for it out of his budget and it
would even itself out.
>> Yeah.
>> So those are some of the ideas we came
up with.
>> In fact, these seems like the logical
choice.
>> Yeah. But
>> okay, I think
>> it is something that definitely probably
needs to be addressed. I mean, we can't
I don't think we could just leave it
because god forbid somebody hits it
right after it's already damaged and not
liable.
>> That weekend is coming,
>> you know.
>> So, I think when's the TRC meeting?
>> July 17th. Yeah.
>> So, um well, we can work together and
get an impact fee request for that. And
then I guess does Connor have your okay
to go forward with that? So the um this
amount for the guardrail would come out
of townwide safety.
>> So there was multiple options we gave.
So we could look at doing impact fees to
reduce what he's
>> chip seal. Then he wouldn't be taking
chip seal out of the regular budget.
He'd take it out of the regular budget
to do the guard rail.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. or we could um use townwide safety
to supplement um a portion or
>> I guess one of my questions is and I do
know we talked about uh an improved
products on Cornhill Road that would
have a longer life. It's got to be more
than five years. A longer life than a
standard repair would be. And uh so my
question would be would the treatment
that he's using for Cornhill Road be
justified by the increase in traffic due
to the development on Nolton Road and
and on you know Corn Hill as well.
There's been development on both of
those roads. Would that meet the
standard for impact piece?
It would I would
>> feel like it would come closer than
that.
>> Yes. Yes. Yeah.
>> So technical review would look at it,
make the recommendation and then send it
to you three times.
>> I would I would send it through
>> because Yeah. Because I I feel like um
we chose a higher quality products for a
longer life with the intention of and
the belief that there's more traffic on
that road and we want it to last a
while. So yeah,
>> I have a question. Um, since it was an
accident involving property damage, is
there an opportunity to engage our
insurance for the replacement of the
>> probably it wasn't probably been too
long.
>> Yeah. When when was the
>> when did last summer? I think I talked
to D.
>> Yeah. I don't I don't time.
>> I don't think so. I don't know. I'm not
sure.
>> We can ask. I mean, it doesn't hurt to
ask.
Can somebody send me the information on
the accident?
>> I can dig through. Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> What are we doing?
>> Impact fee request.
>> Technical review.
>> Technical review.
>> So, we'll do that. But, um, so can
Connor go ahead and get it done?
>> I would get the guardrail done. Okay.
>> Because regardless, that's
>> Yeah, because they're looking for me to
sign the proposal. Yeah.
>> Can you send us a picture of what it
looks like now?
>> Yeah, I guess.
>> Just for insurance purposes if you need
it.
>> Thank you. Anything else, Connor? Are
you good?
>> Nope. That's it.
>> All right. You're all set. Chief Kenny,
>> uh, real quick, sure everybody knows by
now we had two building fires on uh,
June 19th. One at 6:41 and then a second
one at 1111. Um, as far as fire
department went, everything went well.
Um
the uh the first one at Fort Bailey
Drive was a total complete loss of a
home. Um the people were not supposed to
be there that were there. Obviously
they're not there now. We did lose a dog
in that one, but no injuries to any
people, so that was good. Uh the second
fire, um the smoke shack, obviously
they're doing a great job up there. They
put their their kitchen completely out
of service. uh that I have pictures, but
um it destroyed the inside. It's you
can't tell by the outside at all, but
they're doing a great job. Still
trucking along and getting their their
work done up there. Obviously, they
probably couldn't be collect insurance
money on what they lost for revenue, but
they're should be made whole the other
way. Um
both instance, we had a great turnout
from Boston Fire. We were beat to both
of them by conquered fire, but literally
back to back.
>> Four minutes I heard.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There were quick responses.
>> Yeah,
>> I had two engines go out for recent
maintenance. Not as bad as last year at
$9,000, but um so it's going to be
somewhere in the neighborhood of $5,000
it cost me to have some work done to two
of the trucks. Um but other than that,
things are good. I had two members uh
just get done because they could no
longer make it uh to the fire
department. So our roster is at 20 at
the moment. Uh 26 is our max that we can
have. Uh, we're down to 20, but the 20 I
have right now are pretty involved. Just
going through the payroll and and
they're they're making calls and showing
up. So, it's a it's a good group of
people right now. Um,
but other than that, that's all I got.
Any questions?
>> So, I I want to just share with you, uh,
I talked to Tammy and Josh and they gave
me a tour
and they had very positive things to say
about our first responders. what you
know how quickly they took care of
everything, how they saved really so
much
>> and it was actually the worst weekend of
their year to have this happen because
it was their big weekend.
>> Um, so it was incredibly difficult, but
they are insured and they're going to be
gutting and rebuilding the entire
>> dining room and kitchen area. So yeah,
it's uh but they they really had only
positive things and they said that the
town worked with them regarding their
setup they have now and all the stuff
they needed to get and it was very easy
to work with. So
>> I did uh one thing I left out I am
working on a report of uh fires that
we've had in the town of Boston since
2019. Um just so you can visually see
because sometimes just things happen and
you lose track. It doesn't seem like a
lot, but when you see the list, it's
pretty amazing. But hopefully next
meeting I'll have that out. So,
>> I had a question about the Bailey's um
trailer park fire. I understood um that
the mobile home may have been difficult
to access because of um junk cars and
maybe a hoarding situation that made it
difficult.
>> Um
>> I don't know that we had that they had
much problem doing their work. the the
difficulty was the door didn't have a
door handle and they were using the
padlock on the door to keep the door
shut.
>> So, um but none of that had any effect
on us doing the fire. The Mark Bailey
first on the scene uh the deputy it was
fully involved. There was, you know, the
damage was already done
>> from what was there. So, uh I did have
quite a conversation with the fire
marshall's office over the phone about
it. sent them some pictures and it was
determined to be um you know
uninvestable
I guess.
>> Yes.
>> Uh just because of the damage they're
like and they don't have a dog at the
moment. So but I yeah I have no idea
what could have started it but
>> it's crazy to think how quick it went.
Hannah and I left the house and headed
towards Franklin. Nothing.
>> Yes.
>> 20 minutes later we got a text from Zoe
saying I think somebody's got a brush
fire or a house fire. I'm like call 911.
She's like, "Nope, I hear sirens
already."
>> Right. Just Just like that.
>> All right. Thank you, Kate. You're all
set. Kelly,
>> um, we had the town building inspector
vehicle going to the shop. Got a new
transmission and, uh, some face part of
the electrical system. Um, that was out
of commission for about a month. So,
that's that's back home. So, that's
good. Um, for Bailey, I talked to Chuck
and he wanted a letter to go out um to
the property owner and the owner of the
park to let them know it has to he
wanted it fenced off similar to what
happened to 14 gauge. But just so you're
aware, that has gone out certified.
Um, and we had a precon meeting today
for Jeffer's Way, um, which is up off
Raymond Road. Um, it was scheduled last
week. I'm sorry I didn't get invitations
to you guys. Um I wasn't in. So it but
it went fine. It's going to be pretty
minimal. Six um it's six homes. They're
going to do the intent starting
tomorrow. We signed off on that tonight.
They're going to start cutting probably
within the next week. Um and then we'll
know more once we talk more with
Underwood. But um questions have come up
and I want to make you aware because I'm
going to talk to planning board about it
about when we have our land development
regulations and our construction
procedurals um policies. It's very
inconsistent and we're having issues
with people questioning bonding when
they can pull in building permits. So um
it's 24 years old. It needs to be
updated. So I'm going to ask for an ESR
from Underwood. go through the process
of planning board and put it in budget
for next year to to update and they they
really need to be done.
>> Yeah.
>> Especially a lot of development that's
happening.
>> Yeah.
>> So
>> I I think the water precinct is probably
in the same situation because you do
have to update those things
periodically. Yep.
>> Yeah. So
>> those be single families or duplexes?
>> Single Well, as far as I know, single
families. He hasn't said specifically.
Um but I'm assuming it's single
families. We've talked about duplexes,
but I don't have it. Doesn't matter
either or only because it's allowed. So,
I don't have
>> He mentioned that. That's why I he
mentioned that last time we had
>> and I know they've done a lot of
duplexes in town, so it wouldn't
surprise me if you wanted to do dup
duplexes, but there is going to be a
homeowners association.
>> So, yeah, that's pretty much it for
right now.
>> Okay. Um we had spoken at the last
meeting with um our assessor Lauren
Martin and AFMI regarding their
charitable exemption and we had kind of
left the meeting with some tasks that
needed to be completed. Um I was looking
to see if the board wanted to schedule a
work session preferably the beginning of
August to allow the assessor time to
review the updated material and update
their recommendation if that's what they
choose. Are there any dates that would
work better for any of you or
>> second Wednesday of the month?
>> Okay.
>> Which would not be our normally
scheduled meeting.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Can we come up with a couple
choices just in because we're working
with a bunch of different schedules.
>> I'm fine. I'm fine. Any day you pick.
>> Okay. So,
>> what are we picking?
>> So, um let's see. I'm just gonna go
ahead and block them out now because it
it will
>> So the second
>> Oh, I already have the select board in
here.
>> Second Wednesday of the month is um
August 12th.
>> 12th. Yeah.
>> Uh any preferred time of like a 6
>> 5:30
>> 5:30
>> 5:30
>> 5:30
>> Okay. So August 12th at 5:30.
Um, one other one.
Preferably not the first Tuesday of the
month just because of planning board and
EDC.
Do you like this?
>> When are your meetings, Matt? Don't you
have something? Are they Mondays?
Tuesdays?
>> Tuesdays,
some Wednesdays, Thursdays, some
Mondays.
>> Like with the the Monday the 10th at
5:30 be another option
or could we do it like half an hour
before select board meetings? I just
worry that it's not enough time.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> And if it runs over, then I don't want
to have to reschedu it another time.
>> August 12th. I have nothing.
>> By the 10th is another option.
>> Seems to be open if need be preferred.
I can I can say that. Yeah, I just want
to have a couple options.
>> Fourth week is out. I'm out of here.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, I'll send that out to
AFMI and Lauren and see if either of
those dates work and get it done on the
schedule. Um,
next, uh, we received a response from a
homeowner on Mel Corner Road regarding a
letter that the board had sent certified
after the last meeting. Uh, the
homeowner has uh, requested additional
documentation from the town as part of a
91A request and is asking the board if
he will consider deferring your
consideration of the matter until he 91A
request has been fulfilled. he has time
to
do his
>> So, when did Legal send out the initial
letter to this homeowner?
>> Um, I believe it was 2024.
Legal had sent the homeowner
>> two years ago
>> a mess. Yes. An a letter regarding
paving on a class six road.
>> So,
>> and how it requires board approval.
>> Board approval. So, the homeowner has
known for 2 years and they're asking for
an additional
30 days and they've known for two years.
>> Sounds like numerous other ones.
>> I guess my feeling is I don't know how
anything that would be received through
a 91A request would change the letter
sent by legal two years ago.
So, I don't see how that would make a
difference in this case.
Oh, I see Yeah, I saw that email.
I personally don't have a problem. It's
already been two years. It's already
paved. if that's what he needs to come
to the t I really like him to come here.
>> Yeah, be nice.
>> Would be great if um but I would say
after the 30 like that would be the
>> how long after that because we've due to
the volume of the request um we've asked
for an additional 30 days to in order
allow us to review and redact things
that were asked for if necessary. So,
>> how much longer after that period of
time are you willing to give
>> to allow the homeowners to review and
come up with their
>> 30 days after our 30 days. So, 60 days
total.
>> I I'm zero. I'm zero. You've had two
years. I'm zero.
>> I think the letter from the lawyer said
it all. Period.
30 days.
I'd be fine like saying like September
1st
as the
>> and the summer.
>> Yeah,
>> that that's that's roughly the 60 days.
So,
>> is there a motion direction from the
board on that?
>> I'd make a motion to give him till
September 1st.
um
>> to review and correspond.
>> Yeah, review and correspond or uh show
up if you could show up and we come to a
re a resolution together but uh or to
fix the problem by September 1st.
>> Seconded.
All in favor?
>> I.
>> No. The law is the law.
>> Okay.
>> And that's enough. Um, I just wanted to
let everybody know that the sitewalk at
Commercial Street with the Yukon
students has been rescheduled from 10:00
a.m. tomorrow to 9:00 a.m. tomorrow
given the heat and the weather. So, just
so everybody is aware if you would like
to come to that. And the last thing I
have is a um contingency item related to
Commercial Street from Green Site
Services. As part of their bid, they put
um the cost for a permanent fence. So
essentially they're looking for
clarification of whether we want that
permanent fence around the property. So
in their bid package they listed 42,000
for this contingency item number 17
which is estimating about 840 linear
feet of fencing enclosing the entire
site which is about $50 per linear foot.
And I spoke to Sanborn head and she says
about the front of the property is about
400 linear feet. So, they're looking to
kind of go around the whole thing.
>> Wow.
>> So, is that something the board wants to
do? Because if so, um, they need to
submit product data submittals before
they
can start. So, they need to know whether
we want that permanent fence down there
or not.
>> It's a permanent fence.
>> That That's what it is. Yes, it's a
permanent fence.
>> Temporary sounds much cooler. Yeah,
>> Bam at Sambornhead and I talked about is
what about just putting just around the
front like we currently have which is
about half.
>> So that was an option that we
>> 20,000
>> Uhhuh.
>> added on to
>> Yep. So essentially um that would bring
our contract amount to 214,910.
But that's assuming that $42,000
addition.
>> Why do they need the fence?
>> Excuse me.
>> Why do they need the fence?
because it's going to be kind of like a
two-tiered system. So, if you have
people going on there, it's a liability.
The grading is not going to be
>> even.
>> Yeah.
>> I know trespass sign won't suffice.
>> Oh, no. Not the children right over that
then. Yes. might might cover some of the
liability issue, but
I mean a temporary offense would be cool
much much more effective since it's
supposed to get reuns.
I mean, that's
>> that wasn't really in their bid. So,
they're I'm just looking for direction
because that's a little higher than I'm
willing to sign off by myself. So,
>> that's a temporary defense.
>> What are we required to have? I don't
know.
>> Okay. Could we ask Sanborn head what
we're required to have?
>> I don't
>> minimum requirements,
>> but I won't be able to get a board
decision for two weeks, which is my
problem.
>> Uh I would make a motion to authorize
the town administrator to negotiate for
a better price with the um technical
assistance of Sanborn Head. I'd second
>> on a permanent fence or a temporary
fence.
>> Whatever is minimum
>> whatever is
>> Yes. Minimum required. Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Motion second.
>> That temporary fest was like $11 or
something.
>> They've estimated 50. Yeah.
>> Is that them putting the fence in or is
that
>> that's installed? That's their
contractor installing. How many feet is
it?
>> It was uh 840 linear feet.
>> And they wanted
>> 42,000.
>> Really?
>> Just $50.
>> Yeah.
>> Can we if uh like could can you find out
also maybe if we called like a fence
company to put in a permanent fence?
Like what's what what fence do they
need? They need like a chain link. Does
it have to be so high? Maybe those kind
of things.
>> Yeah. Are there Yeah. But are the
minimum standards?
>> Yeah.
>> Six feet high, you know.
>> And then the fact that this permit fence
will be ripped down again in the future.
>> Yes. Shortly.
>> That seems high even for that about us.
>> Believe me, I was doing the math and I'm
like, "Oh gosh."
>> So motion made, seconded. All in favor?
>> I I
>> Okay, I'll work on that.
>> Negotiate away.
>> Uh
and to sign on our behalf.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. to sign on our behalf. Did I say
that? Yes.
>> Okay,
>> Roger. Um, any board business before we
go to nonics?
>> Yes. Few things. Um, Katie and I met
with the Bosman Historical Society
regarding commercial street cleanup
where they are working on interpretive
panels for us. And, um, as you can see,
I kind of made notes of the minutes of
the meeting so that you'll have an idea
of what we discussed. But um you know
one of the things they asked about you
know had to do with some of these things
we'll answer shortly once we get this
place cleaned up but that information is
there in the minutes. And then uh next
thing uh in researching impact fees I
discovered a system development charge
instead of impact fees for water and
sewer. And uh turns out that back in
2017, our
engineers recommended this as a way to
pay for the sewer. So, um this is
something I really think we should look
at and I gave you a little blurb on what
what it is and how it's done. The nice
thing about this is unlike impact fees
which expire in six years, these don't
expire. So, there you go, Connor. you
can deal with this sewer stuff forever
and ever and ever. So, um, and then the
next thing was I went to an impact fee,
uh, webinar and there was some, uh,
question regarding whether or not our
school population was declining. In
fact, it's not. Boswin Elementary is
sort of the exception to the rule at
Marramac Valley. Our enrollment has
increased uh, since CO, which is not
surprising. And then if you look at our
population age group, we have an
underage under five population of 150.
So these are and the little guys. We can
expect them to show up at kindergarten
shortly.
>> Those numbers before two weeks ago.
>> So are we at 151 now?
>> Oh no, these are so these are old. These
are like a year old numbers. These are a
year old now. Um, and Jeff Duan, the
principal at the elementary school, says
that we are going to have to add another
fifth grade class this year. So, there
will be three fifth grade classes at
Boswin Elementary. And we have class
size standards, which is the other thing
when we look at impact fees. Part of
impact fees are what are your standards?
Well, because we're in a cooperative
school district, we have to accept the
cooperative school district standards.
So, this is the class size standard. So
it's not just how many kids do you have,
but how many kids are allowed in in each
class for each grade level. So it's
about a thousand square feet for a
kindergarten class. So as you can see,
that's why kindergarten only 15 to 20
kids in the class. So I thought I'd
share with you both that um because
that's useful information as we move
forward in the discussion of impact.
Um, Brown Fields. We're going to break
ground July 6th on the cleanup project.
>> Seventh.
>> Seven. Okay. God.
>> That was the seventh. Okay. So, very
exciting, guys. We're almost there.
We're almost done. Um, the park
improvement project that is going to
break ground the week of August 22nd.
And by the way, Connor, can you help us
move some granite block from commercial
streets
>> to be weighed? And somebody at at the
meeting today, oh, it was Fred Rean, um
said there are mobile scales and could
we use a mobile scale? I think um there
was discussion with Wheeler, but that
was another thought put out there if we
could measure it on site and then move
it to where it its final location is.
Yes.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, we can we'll figure out something.
>> Figure out something.
>> Yeah, we we still can use our scale. I
just It's not certified.
>> Okay.
>> So, if
>> would a mobile scale be certified and
like the state police use those, you
know,
>> it would I guess I'd have to that'd be
have something I'd have to look into.
>> Does it matter that it's not certified?
>> That's what I don't know. That's Yeah,
that would be
>> if it's just for our paperwork.
>> Yeah, it's kind of
>> heavy. It is flip.
>> I know the guys at the transfer station
still use it the way they cook
cardboard, I think.
>> Okay.
>> So, I I mean, we still use it. So,
>> it's important to have the slips, the
documentation. That's what's important
for the grants. So, um so that's the
question that came out of that meeting.
Oh, and for you, Chief,
just a minute. Uh,
just a minute.
I had lunch, I mean, not lunch,
breakfast with Bill Bevans, and he had a
suggestion of something that might be
worth looking into.
Fouts Fire.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. I guess they have um a a outlet in
Massachusetts. They're made in Georgia,
but they have an outlet in
Massachusetts. And he said they seem to
have more affordable trucks, so it may
be something you want to take a look at.
>> It's also proprietary.
That's what we have on our engines right
now. Has to go all the way to Southern
Mass.
>> So, so, so that so that's but that's
important uh to understand as we've just
had this long conversation about Otis
elevator being proprietary. That's we
probably got a good deal on Otis when we
put it in because it's proprietary. We
have to pay. That's how they get you.
>> So I think
>> but I'll check we check all the
different results.
>> Yeah. And if they are proprietary, I
think we should know that ahead of time
so that we are aware what we're locking
ourselves into for perpetuity.
>> How many quotes were gathered back in
the day when that elevator was put in?
One.
>> Yeah. Soul source.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, that was a long time
ago.
>> Yeah. We did things differently back in
the day. So, and then as I mentioned,
um, upcoming anniversaries, Black Forest
50 years, Ross Express 80 years, Smoke
Shack this year 20 years. So, moving it
out there.
>> About you, Josh? Any any updates?
>> Um,
>> any new Bosanites?
new population up one at least over the
last week.
>> We've got growth. We got growth here in
Baltimore.
>> We have growth more.
Um he's doing good. Um
uh the old home day committee has picked
a Boswin band for the evening
entertainment on old home day.
>> So that's exciting. Who? Who?
>> Um I forgot the name of the band, but I
do remember they are from town.
>> Okay.
>> And they were very excited and uh
sounded honored to be asked to come
play.
>> Nice.
>> And um the egg commission,
I think they said there's still some
spots left in the community garden. If
anybody wants a plot, um I assume they
could call here.
>> Yes. planning planning office.
>> Yeah. Call the town office and they can
hook you up with a garden plot. It's not
too late.
>> And then they're going to be doing
stars.
>> Yep. The stars are coming
>> instead of the animal. They're doing the
stars for the 250th American holiday.
And you can get those for the town, too.
And they're 25 bucks a piece. And uh
>> judging will be August 16th.
>> Yes. The week before old home day.
>> The Sunday before old home day. Yeah.
So, we're really excited about that. And
thanks to Maker Space for doing all the
work and cutting out all the stars.
>> Yeah. And John Porter, John Keegan, they
worked on priming the stars.
>> Yes.
Today, so that was awesome.
>> Well, and tangentally to a commission,
um, beautifification committee, uh,
we've been, uh, going to Black Forest
Nursery each Saturday to recruit for the
beautifification committee. Uh we do
have one new uh member who is willing to
take on the Route 34 split garden. Very
exciting. Uh but we still need more
members. A handout went out to all of
the families of Bosquin Elementary
School before the end of school. It's
probably still in the backpack, but
we're still looking for members for the
beautifification. Thank you to the
police department for watering your
barrels and helping out
beautifification.
All set.
All right. We have two nonpubliclix
under C. So we can go to the first one.
>> Quick or time.
>> Do you need a timeout?
>> Depending on how quicks might be.
>> Why don't you take a break?
>> All right. Make a motion to go into
non-public under RSA 91- A3 colon 32C.
Do I have a second?
>> Second.
>> Roll call. Josh.
>> Yes.
>> Lori.
>> Yes.
>> I was Lori.
>> Gary, are you leaving?
>> Gary, are you going?
>> Okay.
>> You're being picked out.
>> Yes.
We are back in public session at 7:51
p.m.
>> Any motion?
Motion to reimburse
for unused summer camp program services
in the amount of $268
for a family that
>> withdrew
>> withdrew a participant.
>> Second.
>> Seconded.
>> Roll call. Lori.
>> Yes.
>> Josh.
>> Yes. Matt.
>> Yes.
>> Motion
>> to seal
>> for reputation.
>> Which one?
>> The one we just uh made a motion on.
Yes.
>> And then I would make a motion to seal
our first non-public
under RSA 91A 32C.
Um also for reputation.
>> Second roll call. Josh.
>> Yes.
>> Lori.
>> Yes. Matt.
>> Yes.
And with those motion to adjurnn second
>> 7:52 p.m. Good night.