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Ashland Planning Board - September 17th, 2026

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Okay, the time being 6:30, I call the
Ashlin Planning Board meeting of
September 17th, 2026 to
order.
Um,
with the pledge of allegiance.
>> I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.
Um Andy Fitch is not here as he is in
the ultimate and Barney here.
>> John Hav
>> here.
>> Trisha Ferris is absent with notice.
Linda Barnes
>> and I am Kendall Hughes.
Um,
that brings you to the minutes of
August 20th.
When you Um,
your pleasure.
That would be great. Just minor
correction.
Yes. On the final page, line 101.
There's the number.
>> Very last page.
>> Last page.
>> This line.
See where it says line 101 but see
prepared by James Sawyer and right below
that it says
>> anyways go on
>> see the end. Yeah,
>> the very bottom last
>> number five.
>> Then on line 89 on the same page,
it's the second paragraph
after says the master plan second line
at the ending
is both on the board of it should say
the historical society I think.
>> Yes, it should say historical society.
Okay. Do I have a motion with those
things?
>> I make a motion to approve the minutes
as a minute.
>> Second.
>> Okay.
Um,
any other discussion?
>> All those in favor say I.
>> Motion passes unanimously.
All right. Minutes of July 16th.
Um, Linda and I were here with uh Andy.
Is there Linda? Have you had a chance to
review these?
>> Yeah.
>> What?
>> They look
>> Hey, would you like to make a motion to
accept?
>> I would like to make a motion to accept
the minutes as presented.
>> And I will second that motion.
>> Any discussion on it? I know Ann and
John were not present for that.
>> All those in favor say I.
against abstaining
>> to abstain. Okay, motion passes.
>> Um,
we are going to go to the Ash Historical
Society.
>> This one.
screen.
>> Have you all had an opportunity to
review it?
>> That screen is not happy.
>> It's just has my address and
>> her address.
>> Yeah. Still screwed up his house. The
Kroger house.
>> Oh, yes. Um
so that should be changed to um quarter
>> once I think there must have there were
notes and corrections in the margin
thrown off some of the formatting
>> that could be we will we can
>> yeah we can check that but that's just a
reminder to check the formatting once
that's done because the this table with
the buildings and dates.
That should be pretty.
>> Okay. So, this um outlines the circle
and cultural resources that make Ashland
um the town that it is. It then goes
into the community record of history
with that 200 years going back um to
when the Swan Indians lived where we do
now. Um taking a closer look at the
people who live here before us, we can
learn about events and businesses and
resources that have shaped our
community. Likewise, exploring the
community's culture that tells us
something about its traditions, so forth
and so on.
Historical resources, Ashlin's historic
record, settlements back to the mid
1700s.
Um, we were where there had been native
settlements before us. Originally we
were part of Holiness and we were the
industrial part of Holiness that split
away in 1868
to form what is now the Flat Iron of
Ashland. Um over time Ashland has also
become to home to many mills and
factories.
Talks about our historic efforts.
Historical society was founded in 1968
as an outgrowth of our centennial. The
society operates in four museums and
hosts educational and community events
throughout the year. The Whipple House
presents its history of Ashland along
with information about the Whipple
family, most notably George Whipple, who
is the only recipient in New Hampshire
of the Nobel Prize.
Um, we have the Colin Glidden Toy Museum
which has stuff dating back to the
colonial times. If you've never been in
there, you really should.
>> I'm seeing a look there.
>> I Yeah, I haven't been.
>> You should. It it it really is a very
rich history of Ashley.
Um,
the railroad station. Uh we have a lot
of railroad artifacts from the town of
Ashland from when that was a booming
place. The railroad stop actually
stopped in Ashland and people took horse
and buggies to go up into the mountains
to summer. Very uh rich people.
Um in 1982
a detailed history of the 17 historic
structures were conducted throughout
Ashland. Um
and they are listed here. We note that
when we get to John Harl's house, which
is 55.
>> Well, it's not in this section.
>> No, not in this.
>> Okay. So, we have here we list what's on
the national registry.
>> Um,
the church best, the Whipple House, St.
Marks, the railroad station, town hall.
We got to do a little formatting here
because of some ways some stuff changed.
the town jail and the junior high
building
along with the gris mill which is on
main street.
>> So that was the format. We don't need to
fix that.
>> We will fix that. Um the Baptist church
we we then talked about the history of
the Baptist church there a little bit um
in the adding of a wheelchair ramp which
is allowable through the does not change
its um national registry status.
The Whipple House Museum serves as the
town's primary historical museum under
the care of the National Historical
Society. The major preservation work was
done in 2026 with the help of a grant.
We recreated brick work, the chimneys,
the roof, and a drainage system with
landscaping.
Um, the Whipple House. Have you ever
been in the Whipple House?
>> I'm new.
>> I I tell you, I I have I'll give you
I'll give you a personal tour of all of
these. Okay.
>> The Whipple House is the history of
Ashland. It is dedicated specifically to
Ashland's history and it is very rich in
stuff.
>> We have so much in there. It's unreal.
>> It's for for an apparently small
building. There's enormous
number of things and each has a story.
>> Where is it again?
>> It is at 12 Pleasant Street. Oh,
>> kind of behind the Gulf station.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Hours are limited and
>> but we're happy to give private tours.
>> St. Mark's Church. Um they replaced the
chimney. We got a little bit of history
on there. St. Mark's Church is now known
as
a a manual.
It is the building next to the police
station. Uh next to the town hall,
the railroad station. um that was given
to us um back in 1970. Major renovations
took place in 9798.
We were able to restore it and recreate
the doors, the windows, um the track
platform. We're still working with the
state to extend it another 100 ft. Um
and that's all all it's all about
Ashland's railroad history. Is there a
working train on that? No.
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> So, the Patriot Line bought it
>> and the Hobo Railroad
>> runs it and they run a train. I'm glad
you asked that. Starting in
mid September, running through mid
August, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
there will be trains that come through
with reenactors from the 1860s
that will
>> not mid August.
>> Mid mid September mid to early
>> midsepptember to mid of October.
>> Okay. One month. Okay.
>> We they end on Columbus Day weekend.
>> Yeah.
>> Saying that they often extend beyond
that depending on the forecast.
>> Yeah.
>> I've seen that.
>> Excellent.
>> I hear it's going to be warm this year.
I don't want to say that too loud. Don't
hold me to it. But someone's saying it
might be a warmer. That's all I'm
hearing. I heard it from three different
people.
>> How about that?
>> I don't know. warmer in the mid mid
Atlantic and
>> out west.
>> You think out west? Okay. Okay.
Correction then. Maybe you're right on
that. Yeah, I know.
>> I watched Aler
this.
All right. Um
then we go on to the town hall, which
has seen little changes since 1982.
>> Um the town hall used to be the town
gym. That's where we play basketball.
>> That's why if you go in there, you will
see windows that go from two floors or
two and a quarter floors.
>> That's why.
>> Yep. Helen Nolton can tell you lots
about it if you ever talk to her.
Um,
let's see. 2008, the junior high
building was acquired by Tri County Cap.
Um that was the historic elementary
school that started in 1884.
Um I believe well right around there
anyways maybe a little earlier even. And
then um
the historical society now has the
original pillar from the bottom of the
stairs from that school. It has been
donated to the historical society and uh
we're going to be be cleaning up and put
a plaque on it.
Um the Grismill
was uh in 1884 and that was uh you know
they made all kinds of stuff. It's now
turned into an apartment house
>> and that the original burned down in the
early 20th century, right? Rebuilt. It
did. It was the
>> that was the mill that Nathaniel
Thompson of Thompson Street originally
built. There was a grease mill and a
lumber mill and then and I assume it
kept being repaired over the years but
then it was by saying more
>> and in the early
>> the early 1930s was not good to downtown
Ashland as we had multiple fires that
renovated the downtown section.
>> So I think it was rebuilt. So I don't
know if we need to add that but it was
you know but in any case the most recent
was in 1984 where
>> exactly
>> um other historic the Ruben Whitten
House is an active museum that the town
has. It is also located um at 12
Pleasant Street behind
12 to 14 Pleasant Street behind the um
Whipple House. The Whitten House was the
house that the Whipples that the
Whittens lived in in 1816, the year
without a summer, and they were able to
raise wheat at their property to feed
the entire town and save the town from
starvation.
Um, then we go on to some of the other
other houses. Um the White Mountain
Country Club, their
uh pro shop is on the historic registry
here. Um Harold Cruz House, the art
exhibit, art express exhibit, which is
across the tracks from the train
station. Um the common man restaurant is
a pre-1861 house. The Scriber Mill on
Mill Street. the Krueger house. I need
to re rename that to the Porter house.
Um, and that's at 55.
This is a formatting issue there.
>> The two fives are there. It's just
separated.
>> But that is the house owned by John Hav.
>> Okay. Um, and then the Cheney House,
which is kind of up and across the
street from them, is also a historic
house on the outside.
Um,
we have a definition of cultural
resources
and based on history and archaeology.
Um,
noting that it's important to know at
home in the many settings where families
gather in cultural events, most notably
the memorial park, LW Park at playing
fields. The town has has seven churches.
Got to check that.
>> We had seven.
>> Had seven. Okay.
>> Y
>> they they burned down.
>> No, they they went out of business. One
being
>> Oh, the church of the whispering pine.
>> Okay.
>> Um
Yeah. So, we'll have to change that.
We're down to three now. Pretty major
churches.
Um the town library
uh and the recreation department host
many cultural events.
Uh community organizations and the
central New Hampshire Chamber of
Commerce is is a key one for us. the
community council, the women's club, the
Ashland
uh region, the Ashland Legion Auxiliary,
Friends of the Library, the Ashland
Community Center, the Ashland
Firefighters Association, the Ashlin
Garden Club, and the Ashlin Recreation
Association. Among there are others.
Um
the Ashlin Firemen's Auxiliary should be
listed. They're the ones that do
Operation Santa Claus.
>> They're also the ones that if your house
burns down, they're the first ones to
come see you to make sure you have food
and clothing.
>> The beekeepers
um
>> there's a beekeep the Penny Baker. They
used to meet
>> Oh, and now they meet.
>> Um, each hold regular meetings and
events in the town. Um, Ashlin Fourth of
July committee should probably be listed
there as well. Um, program sponsors
benefits of the town. Also, the
historical society, which hosts about
half a dozen programs and, uh, runs the
full museums.
Um
they our key events in Ashland are the
Ashlin Fourth of July celebration, the
Halloween trunk or treat event, the and
parade, community safety day, the
townwide yard sale, breakfast with
Santa, Operation Santa Claus, Christmas
night Ashland, breakfast with the Easter
Bunny, and various community dinners.
demographics talks about um
where we've been of families amongst the
old the new and everything and the
change.
Um it also talks about our economic uh
demographics where we are 27.7%
of the population in Ashlin lives below
the state poverty line.
Um
higher average uh 12.5 of Ashley
does a good job in providing programs of
these demographics.
>> Oh yeah, the national average is 12.5.
We're at 27.
Um
>> yeah.
>> Um you know, to me that really reflects
the sense of
that goes way back in Ashlin's history
of looking out neighbors.
>> Exactly.
>> You know, there's sort of a the real
sense that you don't let people through
the grass
>> and that's exactly what happened in in
1860.
>> Mr. Whitten fed the 800 people that
lived in the town at the time.
>> Great. And during the Revolutionary War
with all the men who I mean virtually
all the men from New Wilderness at one
point or another went off to fight and
so people had to look out for each
other. So I think I don't know if
there's a way of putting that in but
something really longstanding
characteristic of this township in
general.
>> Y so so yeah we should put that in under
the culture
>> because it is part of the cultural sort
of template for the town. It has in the
years ahead the societ society will be
considered think how to best preserve a
town's history and making them relevant
to the citizens and visitors for
tomorrow. Uh effectively working
relationships between various town
entities while clearing identifying
local priorities that are essential to
ensure that the town's history will be
kept up in its importance in future
generations. I um National Historical
Society is doing a lot of stuff coming
up that uh would encourage you to come
to the annual meeting in November.
>> And I'm giving a talk next week.
>> Glenda is giving a talk about the
American Revolution and how Ashlin
um responded
and a lot about how the women responded.
>> And when is that?
>> 7 o'clock next Tuesday. Okay.
>> At the booster club.
>> At the rooster club.
Um
so recommendations.
It is true uh it is true that Ashlin
faces issues and challenges regarding
historic structures. At the same time
multiple opportunities and resources are
also available to assist the town and
its residents in the historical society
in their efforts to be a good steward of
Ashlin's culture and history. Examples
might include
And what we'd like to do is support the
efforts of the Ashlin Recreation
Department and other committees to
develop and promote activities that
bring residents and visitors together
throughout the year as well as other
town activities that showcase the
history and culture, the Fourth of July
parade, Christmas night Ashland, etc.
The historical society works with and
develops a comprehensive history of the
town of Ashlin so that it can be passed
down from generations
and that is the programs they do as well
as as the museums. developing a display
of old photographs in the historic
context and is installed in various
municipal buildings and businesses as
well as being digitally archived
and presented throughout the the
historical society's website on these in
these ways. Such images can be readily
accessible for towns people. We have for
years done a display that we change
every three months at the electric
department.
um has been very well received over the
years. We can do that at various
businesses and other places. If if
anyone wants to exploring and developing
opportunities that support and showcase
our more than 200 years um and that's
what we do with with the
some stuff that we do, but we need to do
more. We'd like to develop historic
walking trails using available
technology to show those things. Um we
have an example of that would be in at
Mechanic Street there is a memorial to
Jeff Yulman. Um if you go and take your
phone you digitize the QR code and it
brings up all this information about the
great stuff that he had done while he
was here and before him and time had
passed.
So, we have some changes that we need to
make.
>> Also, I'm glad to work on this, but
where under the recommendations
um where the vision statement talks
about really strengthening community
connections and bonds, I think that
first one especially really ties in like
I'm proposing just tweaking that to make
it really echo the vision statement
because the vision state statement is
supposed to sort of filter through
the spirit of all the other chapters,
>> right?
>> Am I saying that?
>> You are. I I know what you're saying.
You John, are you good with that?
>> Just a minor tweak to get
>> right.
Are we good with um
working on doing a second revision of
this?
>> Okay. So, um We will send this Linda and
I and and um some people from the
Society will get together to do a second
revision of this.
>> But I do those.
>> Okay, we're good with that.
>> That would be fun.
with QR codes and you could give people
a map they could go and just what you
were saying
different places.
All right.
I have a lot of I'd like to make a
motion in chapter eight.
>> Yes. development
uh section. I would um I'd like to make
a motion to table
uh this chapter until next
>> I haven't actually opened a public
hearing
>> on those. So we don't we don't have to
table it only because I didn't open the
public hearing. I didn't open it for the
first one either.
>> So I think the second part of your
motion might be more relevant.
You want to make that second?
>> Sure.
>> I'd like to
I I'll go through go through some of
this.
>> Well, yeah, we can go through, but
>> I think this needs some more work.
>> Okay.
>> And I have I had agreed to do some to
enter some draft changes that Kendall
talked about. I just I haven't got to
it. So
>> I would really like for one or two of us
from the planning board to meet with a
couple of you guys from there to come up
with a stronger document.
>> So let's make a you know we talk making
a subcommittee.
>> Yeah, we can do that.
>> And uh we just have to set a time and
date.
>> I think this is a really good framework.
Don't don't get me wrong. The framework
is good, but there's some stuff that
needs to be changed, altered, and
expanded. For example, you have the
Fourth of July committee listed as a
town committee. They are not a town
committee. They are a standalone
committee of themselves. They they
support a lot of town efforts,
>> but they they are not under the purview
of the town,
>> but it's a it's a fabulous
foundational document. And so I think we
talked about a couple of things and I
just need to enter those changes which
I'll do a sort of track changes. that
it's clear.
>> Can you make a suggestion?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Um, having just seen some of these, I do
think it would be wise to have two or
three members of the planning board meet
with two or three members of
>> That's exactly what we
>> So that we can talk through the
suggestions and make sure that we're
both amendable to them.
>> Exactly. That's exactly what John just
said.
>> Yep. Perfect.
>> So, what he said. So, we'll do that and
um I think that we'll come with a much
stronger
um
plan here.
>> Y
need a time and date and some
AEDC
members.
>> Yeah. So, when's your next meeting?
>> Well, our next meeting is not going to
be until October. First meeting October.
So, we Can we do it before then and have
a subcommittee?
>> Yeah, if you guys can get together and
get get one or two people or three or
four or however many
>> and before then I will follow up to
enter the draft,
>> right? And then Linda and I will make
some some suggestions and we'll go back
and forth from there and we can
>> we'll sit down and talk about it.
>> John, it sounds like you're hoping we
could actually set a time and date
before your next meeting for us to sit
down and go over things. I would Yeah, I
would like that
>> so we can go over to our next meeting
and vote on the changes.
>> Sure.
>> What do you think?
>> Sounds like a plan.
>> Okay. So, before we move, let's find a
time and then I will follow up on making
the changes that we are suggesting.
>> Is that okay with you guys?
>> Yeah, absolutely.
Um
30th
30th.
>> What day is that?
>> What day is it?
>> Wednesday.
>> It's the fifth Wednesday of the month.
>> Fifth Wednesday.
>> Yes. Remember we tried to have a
meeting.
>> Yes, we did. We did try to have a
meeting. Well, we could have them
eating. I guess
>> that works for me. What about you?
>> On what day?
>> Wednesday, September 30th.
>> Wednesday the 30th.
>> Yes.
>> Oh,
>> I have dinner plans that night
apparently.
>> Oh.
>> Oh.
>> Oh. Well, 29th.
>> I can't wait. Doesn't mean I don't have
to be there.
>> No, you should be there.
>> You should be there.
28th.
>> That's Monday.
>> No.
>> Oh, you don't
>> 28.
>> We can plan for the 28. No, you guys can
do it. I can't. But that's fine.
>> That's fine.
>> 28th.
>> And what's a good time for everybody?
six o'clock or 5:30 or
>> so if you can't do the 30th either,
right? Could we go back to Wednesday
30th?
>> Well, I can do the 30th.
>> Oh, you can.
>> You can't do
>> I can't
>> Oh, no, I can't. I'm sorry. Yeah, we
can't do the 30th. I'm sorry. But the
28th is fine.
>> Okay.
>> How about the wizzy before that?
>> That's Fourth of July.
>> And we're both on that committee.
>> Okay. All
right. What time?
>> She's right.
>> That's a long time.
>> We need to see this before then.
>> 5:30. And like
>> I got I just got a copy of it. I'll send
it to you.
>> Okay.
>> 5:30 on the 28th.
>> Yeah. Does that work for you?
>> That works for me.
>> Y
>> here.
Where are we meeting? Um, probably here,
but we'll two be determined.
I have to talk to Kelly.
>> Yep.
>> Great.
All good.
>> Yep.
Um before I forget about it, the school
is working on their section of it
>> and they are working on some long range
planning with the committee. They've
asked for a representative from this
committee to be on their committee for
long range planning. Um Mrs. Ferris has
agreed to do that.
>> So unless someone has a concern,
I thought so.
All right. So, she will be appointed to
the school and
keep
all right.
I have some questions for you also about
this. I think I this to you, Mr. Pton.
>> What's that?
>> The uh government governance and inter
board coordination.
>> Yeah, I did. I have not
>> I haven't seen your latest revision and
I I don't think you've seen my latest
revision.
>> Go ahead.
>> So again, I think that we will have a
sit down and discuss it if that's okay
with you.
>> Works for me.
>> Okay, sounds great.
>> May I just add a thought on that one
again? tying the whole master plan
together in so far as the vision
statement is meant to be the framework
that kind of drives
policy in town. Again, I don't know if
there's any this was really helpful,
but I'm just wondering if it's useful
in some way.
>> I think it's useful. I think that when
Mr. Phelp and I get get done with it,
it's going to be a very useful document
that will be very
understandable for everybody to move
forward with. Great.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah, that's terrific. I'm just thinking
again, how do I integrate the different
chapters so they have synergy with
vision statements? So, that
>> exactly that's I believe that's what you
want as well.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So, we're all
>> as long as we're approaching it. Yes.
>> That we that's what the end result
should be.
>> That's exactly what what we all want. So
um
>> like I said the more hands up on this
the better and the better product we
will have.
>> Okay.
>> This is I found this really
>> any questions, concerns, non-negotiable
demands?
>> You may ask
>> any question. Okay.
>> Any question? Don't mean to get an
answer. It's gonna sound funny, but um
do you know where Jane is?
>> Jane is the land use secretary.
>> Yes.
>> She is the one who prepares all of this
and tells me what to do and how to do it
and generally I follow her, but she
doesn't generally come to these
meetings.
>> Okay. Um we have some questions for land
use. I know this is aside from
>> Well, that's what we are is land use.
>> Oh, you are? Okay. So, never mind. We're
in the process of closing on a piece of
land. So that's why we're I'm here. I
say we, it's just me today. But
>> what are you closing on?
>> We are looking over at Love Hill.
Yeah.
And I thought Jane was the land use
person, but I'm realizing as you said,
she is uh a secretary. So she's a
supporter.
>> She's much more than a secretary.
>> I don't mean that in a bad way. No, I'm
just saying that
>> what is
>> I thought she was
>> What's the address?
>> Fizzy one.
>> She sort of has a hand on everything.
>> She does like pretty much everything.
>> So, she's the manager.
>> Yes. And Okay.
>> So, we sort of deliberate on things that
are brought before us when there's a
specific proposal like, you know, but
we're also available for consultation as
a board. You can get on the agenda to
say here's something I just wanted to
talk about, but Jane's a wonderful
resource also to go and talk to.
>> Well, we're going pretty quickly on
this. That's why I came to the meeting
also to meet everybody first. So,
>> what is it that you'd like to do?
>> Well, the house is kind of falling
apart. Falling apart one. Does it look
like that?
>> Yeah, it's Yeah.
>> Just I want to make sure we have the
same.
>> Yeah, it's Yeah. And it's it's
interesting because I had a a big
Suburban pull up with a couple younger
kids in the back and the dad and the
12-year-old put his head out the window.
He goes, "You're going to buy that?"
I was just like, "What are you going to
do?" I said, "I don't know. We're trying
to figure we're trying to get around it
a little bit." So, one of the questions
we have Stan Greatton involved who built
the bridge builder.
>> I've heard of him,
>> right? We thought it was wise because
Stan at least maybe 10 12 years ago was
the one that put in the beam to keep it
together back then. So let's bring Stan
back, right? Um but the question is and
then other local people as well and
stuff like that. Uh we have a shed
behind it
>> and we're trying to figure out uh maybe
we expand the shed to be something more
than what it is. A little bit easier
than
>> this is this is what the house looks
like drawing wise, right?
>> Yeah.
>> So where the shed is where
>> is behind it further away from the lake.
>> Further away from the lake
>> still in the 250. Okay.
>> Yeah. So, my background is I do
conscientious development and I come
from southern New England and I've done
inland, wetland, coastal variance, all
this stuff.
>> And we all know how expensive it is to
acquire this land, you know. I know it's
a little Okay. Um, so we're trying I
have all my children in college right
now.
And uh it's interesting because the
sellers are in the same state as where
my oldest Alexander is, which is Chapel
Hill.
>> And even though they're both working, he
was at a financial group in Manhattan
this summer. It's kind of on my
shoulders right now.
And we're trying to sort maybe expanding
our shed to be it's an easier way to
have something to live in.
>> So an ADU
dwelling
>> I'm gathering. Yes. which could be up to
a th00and square feet.
>> Yes. Has more than 750 but which is a
town regulation but under a thousand
square feet.
>> Jeffrey and I met for two hours today.
So um I've met with a lot of people over
there at this point. So I'm I'm getting
a you know and the question uh Stan
asked was we're trying to get together
the plan. This will be my 10th to 12th
development. Um I've been doing this
since I was like 24. I've been doing a
long time and but my first time my
family is from conquered Pemroke but
this is the first time I'm doing this.
So my family so uh and their history is
like more like Governor's Island when
Pasaki and I'm over here.
So anyway, just a little bit about me so
you know I'm not just showing up in New
Hampshire like you know I've been coming
here since I've been a baby
>> but a lot of them have passed on. I'm
the matriarch.
>> Yeah, I got a lot of trees. I don't have
a good picture of the copy. Sorry.
>> Yeah. So, the uh
uh we know that it's up to Jeffree said
up to a thousand. We're wondering may
get a little more exception if it's
maybe a little bit more. Um I'm just
trying to
>> You have to get a variance to
>> Yeah, exactly. And that's why I think
possibly at the next meeting because I'm
here now and we are me and my part my my
my guy and we're uh you know in
temporary housing
>> and we would like to do some various
things. Uh for example, we've got some
dead large trees that just have to come
down before because a year or two ago
one of them smashed right through the
shed. We don't want that to happen to
the big house. And so,
>> uh, we got curt involved from Pemmy on
that one. And not yet, but you know,
we're lining everybody up.
>> So, so you're within the Shoreline
Protection Act,
>> so you have to obey them.
>> Yeah.
>> So, dead trees, you can take down all of
them.
>> Vegetation you can only take down 10%.
>> Yeah. Aware of that. Yeah. And I'm not
really I'm more of a tree hugger than a
tree
>> Yeah. lever.
>> But pine trees should come down.
>> But some of them are really dangerous.
>> Well, they do come down.
>> No, I know. Exactly. And then right on
the home, right? Exactly. And I I'm very
much It's all about safety right now is
where we are. Cables are holding the
house together. I mean, I don't know if
anyone knows.
>> You see in this picture, four four pine
trees that should be coming down before
they go through.
>> Well, we can't take them all down at
once, so it's not it's not good to take
them all at once. So, we're going to do
I think three of them are going to come
first. It'll be a crane and the whole
thing. Anyway,
>> if you can't see in this photo, but the
right side of that roof is imploding.
And it's not just the roof. Can I have
an inspection report from Thomas uh
Flesh Fleshman?
>> Yeah,
>> Tom inspector from Sandwich.
>> I know one.
>> It's not good. Tom said abandon the
house. Build on the shed.
>> The shed.
>> Um, no. That shed needs to go bye-bye.
Okay.
>> Okay. Now, let me just say a couple
other things.
>> I'm a car girl. It's kind of my thing.
I'm wondering if at the very top outside
the 250 maybe we just kind of wheel in
like a nice looking kind of prefab just
to have something to put a car in. Maybe
a one car or something like that. But
that's outside the 250
>> and that would be in the purview of the
building inspector.
>> So whatever he says on that he's already
said that shouldn't be a problem. You're
outside.
>> I don't see a problem but it's his
purview.
>> Exactly. And he and I will be continuing
to meet and we're here now. I'm here.
I'm not down in southern New England.
I'm up here. Um, so the reason why I say
that shuts it go down is there'll be one
thing like giving back stuff and then
maybe but that's down the road maybe a
little bit but maybe we get okay to do
another one car down there but that's
not needed right away. I could do one at
the top. Um I think what Stan would like
to know is Jeffrey today said we just
have to look at the setbacks. So is it
15 feet from the sides because it's a
skinny lot. exactly what I'm looking to
pull
>> 25 ft from the street and I'm also in
already talks with everybody electric uh
Derek Brown with the water and the sewer
been doing this a lot I've been doing
this 25 years so but um and um
um
>> I'm not sure
>> I know
>> and I mean are you talking about
changing the footprint of the actual
house
>> we're not even going to touch the house
right now we're going to work on the
shed
And um and the thing is we are we do
want to bury we are going to we are
going to go for you know the four year
round for expansion of shed to um we're
going to bury the we have public water
we have public sewer. This is a big
reason why I'm doing it. I'm like okay
>> so you are in the Squam Lake and Squam
River Old District. This district
provides protection for the environment
sensitive corridor blah blah blah blah
blah. Um structures on slopes that
exceed 15% grade are not allowable.
>> Okay.
>> App application of fertilizers,
pesticides,
>> on fuel tanks.
>> Yeah. No.
>> And any excavation you have to get a RSA
151 from the Bureau of um
>> that one we might need if we're going to
put the water in the
>> Absolutely.
>> So So that's from dees.
>> Okay. So that's what I really need to be
doing. Okay.
>> That's a Yes.
>> Okay.
>> But
>> um Well,
>> but Jeffrey is so excited that he's
like, "Oh, you're on public sewer. Well,
then this is going to be much easier."
And that's a big reason why I'm here
because yeah, I know about we were going
to do Wolf Grow actually and then the
research and research years of this
actually we just and and we said well
>> part of the challenge at this phase is
figuring out
>> who is the right person or to talk to.
So Kendall was mentioning
That's the zoning board.
>> We know that. And we know that too.
That's a big reason why I'm also here
when I meet everybody.
>> Before the zoning board regardless.
>> Yeah.
>> So it's squamling overlay is supposed to
be 2 acres.
>> Mhm.
>> You're not.
>> Mhm. 66.
>> You have to have a minimum of 150 ft of
road French, which you do not. You have
98.
>> Jeffreey's already told me this, by the
way. Yes, I know this. Yeah.
>> Um, but here's the here's the setback.
It's 35 ft from the back of the lot. So
that'd be from the water.
>> Okay.
>> It's 50 feet from the front.
>> 50 feet from the street. So when we say
front the front building set back. Yeah.
Rear. I'm sorry. The front is 35. The
rear is 50.
>> Okay.
>> And then the sides
are 25.
>> Oh wow. Okay. So Okay. This is this is
important. Okay. So the front meaning
the street. I say
>> front means street side.
>> Street side. I'm like street, lake, and
neighbors. Okay. The car drives past the
property is the front of the house.
>> Front. Okay. Well, it's this whole
property is going like this.
>> I understand that. But yeah,
>> the street side will be the front.
>> Okay. Okay. So, 50 from the front.
>> Yeah. This is it right in the zoning
ordinance.
>> Yeah.
>> It's available online.
>> I just got it like an hour or so ago, so
I haven't even had a chance to really
read it.
>> It's 50 from the back.
>> Okay.
>> It's 35 from the front.
>> From the lake.
>> From the No, 35 from the road.
>> Oh, okay. 50 from the lake, 25 on each
side.
>> Got it. Okay. 25 sides. Okay. That's
what Stan really wanted to know first of
all, right? Okay.
>> It's going to be interesting. That's
what you can see why I'm here. We're
also joining the community. So, we're
like, it's good. And thank you for all
the history. The history is amazing. Do
I want to be Well, I've been on a lot of
boards. Yeah. I've been on vesties. I've
been on all kind. I come from Greenwich.
to me afterwards.
>> Yeah, I've been in all kinds of things.
Um, I don't even want to tell you my
background because I'm afraid what else
you're going to pull me on.
I I have a financial background, but
also other things, too. But I'm looking
for an account.
>> Oh gosh, no. And I'm a CPA, but am I
gonna say that? No, no, no. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. Um, okay. We're just trying
to get what they affectionately call a
grip,
you know, and my son loved baseball. I
have two sons and like I said, they're
both in school right now.
>> Not a problem. I got four.
>> And the younger one's in engineering
school afterward afterwards.
>> We got engineer coming except he's only
19 years old
>> about the situation at hand. What What
else can we do for you? Um,
and if I'm not bringing something up and
you think of something I'm not thinking
of,
>> so so for us, most of what you're
talking about
>> is in the purview of the building
inspector
>> and we've met for two hours today. So
we're we're we're in good shape.
>> Okay. If it has to do with the setback
requirements,
>> yeah,
>> they're all right here.
>> Okay.
>> But when it comes to the building
permit, he's the one who has to sign off
one.
>> Yeah, I have all the permits right here.
Like I mean, I have all the
applications, but be the dees. So, I do
need to put application.
>> You probably are going to have to talk
to the dees, but again, um Jeffrey can
can guide you on that if if you do need
to or not.
>> Okay. So, Jeffrey, I mean, a lot of
people advise. I mean, it's been a
>> Where are you putting the underground?
>> The uh we're going to we're whatever
we're doing now or in the future is
going to be for season. So, we're going
to put the water, the public water, and
>> public water will be fine
>> and sewer and maybe the Oh, and I meant
and the maybe the ca the electric.
>> You might take it the electric, but you
probably do not need a a um digging
permit from dees for that.
>> The electric cables are like literally a
foot and a half above my head right now.
It's not
>> I understand that.
>> I actually have been to your property.
So, last year when a tree came,
>> did you? Okay. Oh, right, right, right,
right. So, you know, that's why I'm
coming in here like this. I'm like, we
got to get going.
>> So, to put in utilities.
>> Yeah,
>> that's not what they're talking about
with excavating.
>> So,
>> okay. Thank you.
>> Okay, this is helpful.
I haven't done a
>> their stuff,
>> but the excavating is is really for if
you're going to put in a foundation, if
you're going to be putting in a
>> Yeah.
>> underground tanks.
>> We're not doing underground tanks.
>> That's what they want to know about.
>> We are thinking about with the shed
making it something where we do have a
foundation. And this is why Stan was
asking. So,
>> you probably need to talk to dees. Okay.
>> Stan knows how to talk to dees. He has
some numbers, I'm sure.
>> Okay. Okay. For foundation. Okay. Okay.
Great. So, we're think it's going to be
a two-step phase, I think. Focus on
shed, foundation, small place, house,
ADU, whatever. We're doing it. And then
the next wave will be then we'll work on
that. I just I think it's too much to do
it all at once. I think it's going to be
too much for me actually. So, yeah.
What you're talking about is a single
family with possibly a a
>> um
those all fall under the
>> they're by right and condition. Yeah.
>> And that is under the building
inspector's per
>> and I have two companies. I have a
property management company of 30 years
been a landlord for 2530 years and also
I have a renovation group. I've done
mostly difficult water oriented
renovations.
>> Not a problem.
>> Kind of falls into that area. So, I
mean, when I say difficult, I mean, this
won't be that difficult, but I just want
to make sure in this meeting, I really
appreciate all your comments because we
just want to make sure the way we're
going, we're trying to go before it gets
too cold.
>> Good luck.
>> Yeah, I know, right?
>> I know you
Saturday.
>> I love the cold and so does my younger
one, my engineer likes.
>> He's in Indiana right now and I went to
school in Indiana, too. Undergrad.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. Well, we can talk about that
after.
>> Thank you. Thank But any anything else
before us?
>> No, I'm just going to Jeffrey and I are
pretty tight. I mean, we're Yeah. Yeah.
He's aware, but he did think it was a
good idea to bring some of this up uh
because he's also helping with Plymouth.
And so, yeah,
>> I've met him once or twice.
>> Once or twice. And and they were the
thought was to talk with Jane about land
use, but it's
>> it's really us that you want to talk to
the crew, right? And what Jane would
tell you is to come see us like you're
doing right now.
>> Okay. Good. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank
you for all the historical stuff. It's
really exciting.
>> We can talk about that.
>> I love it. Yeah. Okay.
>> All right. Anything else for this
meeting?
Anyone else have anything for this
meeting? Jeie, you still want to keep
your application in?
>> Yes.
>> Good.
All right. In which case uh the time
being 7:21 I call the National Planning
Board meeting for today done and we will
be meeting again at on um October 1st
6:30