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Ashland Economic Development Committee - September 16th

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Time in 5.30, I call the meeting to order.
We all stand.
I have led to the allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the Republic for which it stands one nation and God
indivisible, the liberty and justice for all.
We have no guests tonight, but we'll introduce
from John Harville.
Beina LeMontaine.
Steve Fulton.
Five of ten.
Chene Angel.
Thank you very much.
And yes, we can go right into the whole business.
Have everybody got minutes?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, the minute.
That's all that is for old business.
Oh, that's all.
The only thing I really see is an open topic roundtable.
We have opportunity zones.
Yeah.
We have 25 Nick Hampshire.
I'm sure.
Should he owes-ease?
I know, I like some ease.
That's funny.
Okay, yeah.
Got it?
And I've got one thing on the second page where it says,
when we're talking about the opportunity zone,
it says, if accepted Ashland is on course to make good use of these state funds and
it's actually not state funds.
So the wording might suggest, let me know if you think I would have this covered it.
Hi, hi, hi.
Hi.
Who are you?
Boy, nobody shows up anymore, huh?
Your popularity has dropped.
That's a good thing, usually.
Yeah, I think that's probably a good thing.
Hi.
How you?
Much better, thank you.
All right.
I'll rise.
We did.
We did.
But I do know some people who are no longer showing up, though, they wrote me.
up, though.
They wrote me to let you know.
Yes.
Is it going to be?
I know he wrote me.
It's not doing well.
I missed it.
Not doing well.
I missed it no.
Oh, it wasn't that.
One of the comments said something
about the funds from the state funds from the
opportunity zone.
Yeah, that's what I'm just going on.
Oh.
Okay.
So I would say, and let me know if you think this
word works, if except the national
is on course two, allow developers
significant capital gains tax exemptions.
Is that cover it?
Perfect.
Developers to gain?
To allow developers significant capital gains tax exemptions.
But is it Ashland that allows it?
Isn't it the state and the federal government?
No, because we're an opportunity zone.
Because Ashland is an opportunity zone, that allows us to
the developers in Ashland to get the...
Okay.
All right.
That is here.
Right, so, but it's, it's, it's,
the funds coming from the federal government,
the exemption.
The exemption of, yeah, via their work.
Right, there's no funds.
Yes.
Well, I guess the only other thing is capital beings are federal,
but I guess we could say federal capital means.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
That will put the introduction to federal fees.
And tax exemptions, just leave this.
No, see.
If except that Ashland is on course to allow developers
significant federal capital gains tax exemptions.
Yeah.
Well, the federal government allows the exemptions not.
It's by their work in Ashland.
They're being awarded the federal exemption, right?
Correct.
It has nothing to do the state.
Or the town.
The state just helps us get on the list.
All the state just helps us get on the list.
state the state's responsibility and all this is to is to bring the list of
communities that are qualified as an opportunity zone.
There are 52 that qualify.
There are only 25 that are going to end up.
Do they make the recommendation to state?
The governor.
The governor makes it.
Well, our department.
Okay.
Right.
Okay.
So the state recommends.
That's it.
Yeah, yeah.
She'll go through it and, you know, if there's a particular community that she feels
is needy.
Didn't get, right.
She may say, well, how come they're not on there?
And why should you put that one on there because they've never used it or whatever
in case.
Anyway, it's up to her.
She sends it back to the feds and then the feds
mark it down for the next.
It's a 10-year authorization.
Oh, 10 years.
Yeah.
these developers, so they're like a project that might take five years.
They've got...
Yeah, no, they got...
This goes for...
10 years, yeah.
10 years.
Because the last one ends at the end of 26.
Correct.
Okay.
So what if we just say, if accepted,
this will allow developers
significant capital gains?
In Ashland.
In Ashland.
In Ashland.
Okay, is the development that's done
development done in Ashland.
Yeah.
Developed.
Right.
Development.
That's correct.
Asherment.
And that's an excellent point.
That's a huge.
I mean, yeah, we want that in a minute.
Yeah, because the likelihood of investments may not come from within the community.
It'll be from outside coming in.
Right.
Those people then get rewarded for investing in Newark.
Yep.
So it's investment in Ashland.
Correct.
It says that somewhere.
What do you got?
Just what you're being?
If accepted.
If Ashley is chosen as an OZ2.2.0 designated area, I mean, right, if we're chosen.
Developers who do work in Ashland.
Development projects in Ashland.
The project is done in Ashland.
In Ashland.
In Ashland.
Do they automatically qualify or do you still have to pass an eligibility test?
Is it just automatic?
It's automatic.
It's automatic.
Yeah, are eligible.
Okay.
Then they are eligible for it, maybe just to cover your ass.
I mean, I don't know if you're CYA kind of thing.
Sorry.
So they're eligible for capital gains.
Are eligible.
Or maybe we should just say they're eligible for the...
Can, what do you just say can receive?
What is it?
It's capital gains.
It's in a capital gains.
exemption from...
It's a total exemption, right?
Yeah, can receive capital gains and exemption for their project.
That's huge.
For their project.
Can receive capital gain...
Yeah, for their process.
I like that.
You think you've got to read it.
I don't know why this is...
Because you want to get it right, Pony.
If you want to get it right, Pony.
Designated.
development, just development projects in Ashland,
can receive significant capital gains tax exemptions.
We'll receive, if I say can receive capital gains exemption.
It's a complete exemption, right?
No.
It's a capital.
It's a percentage.
It's a percentage.
It's a percentage.
Yeah.
So can receive capital gains exemption.
Yeah.
For their project.
Significant.
Significant.
That's significant.
That's not.
nice.
Does that work?
That's a nice word.
That's a nice word.
Anybody else?
Anything else?
Any other?
Any other?
Do you have an extra agenda?
I'll share with you.
Okay.
I was just going to write stuff.
That's fine.
I can function without writing.
Do you want?
Do you like to hear any other comments or questions?
Do I hear a motion to accept the minutes as changed?
I'll make that motion as amended.
Is amended?
Second.
Okay. All in favor, say hi.
Aye.
The motion passes and the minutes are approved as amended.
Yes.
So in August, we should move on to the rules and procedures.
I didn't bring my rules and procedures.
There were just a few changes.
I thought it seemed that we were going to the master planning.
There was lots of things that we changed.
But it's actually just the last line of the first paragraph
and then this one of the goals, two or three of the goals.
We were just a different wording.
It was just different wording.
It was just different wording in the math.
So we thought we should match.
I'm struggling with, or maybe you can help me.
I'm struggling with the margins.
Oh, okay.
I can put that for you.
Oh, right.
I'll send this to you.
Yep.
I'm sending it to you and then you can get it to see.
Yeah, then we'll just send it in together.
Oh, yeah.
Just bring it in.
You want them all to be here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's that?
Does they have to go through the board of selectmen?
might have stopped again.
Last word.
And then when we looked at the, for our committee on the website, this,
there was one word and I was, oh, this right here.
Yeah, we'll bring that adjusted one to the next meeting.
Was that your point?
That's the adjustment.
Yes.
Yes.
Once we have the new one done, we'll go over that at our next meeting.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, so you can do your magic and then,
yep.
So just, you just want me to modify the margin on section A, I mean, goals, B?
Through out.
Yeah.
Through out pages.
Oh, throughout the whole plan.
Through our whole section.
Okay.
Yep.
Okay.
Okay.
So not just under section three,
No.
All of the whole document from page four, our section.
Yes.
Yeah, see these.
Okay.
And out there, like crazy.
Don't you have that.
Yeah.
You don't need to make copies.
I'll have copies.
It's just like that.
Yeah.
And did you already edit the things you highlighted?
So I would, um, do I, will I have access to that copy?
Then, um, so you're going to give me that copy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, so probably I was going to say, did I tweak that with putting pictures in it?
No.
Just the rules and procedures.
Oh, okay, never mind.
Yeah.
I was thinking of the master plan.
Yes.
So, okay.
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's just, I don't have this work.
Okay.
And the next meeting, we'll vote on this.
Yeah.
Next is SWAT.
Steve, you want to take it from here?
Yeah.
Based on our last discussion, we obviously
went to know and had everything rated
and came up with a couple of babies
additional projects that we wanted to get based on that SWAT analysis.
So what I did is, you remember the last time we had the project tracking worksheet?
Yeah.
And then I created a draft that will go over now of each of the projects.
So, and I did one as an example, so I did the Opportunity Zone as a separate project.
And I'm going to, I'll just pass this out there and you can look at it.
once we're an agreement that yes, this project master sheet works and the individual project
sheet works, then we'll give that to you, Laurie.
Yeah.
And then you can link them so that when someone goes to the master sheet,
they can just click on the item and it'll bring them to the details of that project.
Yeah.
All right.
Does that work?
A couple copies if anybody wants anything.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Would you like that?
No.
I'm good.
Thank you.
Okay.
So, is that?
That's the individual project one?
Yes, the first one you should say multi-project tracker, correct?
Yes.
Okay.
So that's the one that we talked about last time.
And I added another column because we said, how do those goals relate to our master plan and the rules
and guidelines that we have for the AEDC.
So, and then as you see, there's the second page.
If you take the second page, those are just basically read them right across.
Oh, there's the second page?
I didn't say that.
You're going to take all three of that.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought it was just talking about.
Those first two pages, the multi-page project tracker
is the left side of that document and the second page is the
right side of that document.
So.
So that's pretty much the same way that we had it last time.
The only thing is I add that additional column.
So let's talk through this piece.
One of the things we wanted to make sure of is that as we go through any projects that we
determine we're going to do, how we want to make sure that they relate to the mission
statement goals that we have in our rules and regulations.
So this kind of, I think.
I think there's 10 of them. So I'm not really sure the easiest way to do that.
So let's say that you went through your master plan. Well, which of the rules does that pertain to?
I'm not sure how easy that would be.
You'd almost have to say,
in fact, maybe that should be taken off the master one and just be put on the individual project worksheet.
But if you look at that third page that you have there that says project worksheet template.
worksheet template. That's an example of, okay, let's take one project. What's the
information that we want to have on that project?
Am I supposed to have a project?
You should have three pages and the third one would have been.
So the example that I use was the opportunity zone, what's the project name,
Opportunity Zone application. What mission statement goals does it support?
Like in my, in this case I think it supported all ten of the goals.
10 of the goals that we have on the, in our rules and procedures piece.
Who's the project manager? Who are the team members that were involved in it? And it was,
you know, myself, Beno, Laurie, and we had Michelle was very instrumental in the Q.
What was the start date? When did we start the project? We started in mid-July.
And we sent it in on the 28th of August. So that's the timeframe from 7th of the 7th.
from start to end and the status is it's complete.
And then that lower part is, okay, let's say that you were just starting a project.
What are the different tasks that are going to be involved in getting that project done?
So for this one, I just listed different tasks that we had in putting together
the opportunities on application.
You know, Lori and I and Bino were at that initial BEA meeting in Laconia to hear about it.
to hear about it.
We went over the different application components,
the letters of support that we had to go get,
the development plan focus that we wanted to put in the plan,
the narrative and the executive summary,
and then the final changes in submission.
So those are the different tasks.
And then you put in who are the different people that are involved in those tasks.
And then when do each of those
those, when did each of those tasks start?
When did you complete them?
And you just kind of work your way.
So it gives you a working plan, because most of the stuff we're going to do
is going to have multiple steps to it.
And it will help us, I think, to organize what those steps are.
And then probably, I'm thinking maybe, you know, once every meeting,
one month, one meeting per month, each of us that are involved in different projects
where the team leader is, gives the rest of the group an update as to,
okay, here's where we're at, here's the obstacles we're running into.
We just discovered three more tasks that we need to add to this
in order to complete this project.
And guess what? We initially thought we could get this done in two months
that I think we're going to have to take that out because it's going to take us
four months to do that based on, you know,
identifying the tasks and what's going to take to get those done.
So the object of the game is,
basically a master sheet that kind of keeps us on track with what the projects are that we're working on
and then an individual template worksheet to help each of the teams that are working on it,
organize what they need to do, when they need to do it, and communicate with the group
and hopefully help eliminate the obstacles that we might run into on our way of getting that done.
I think this would help and people would know what's going on so we don't start fighting heads
because we've got multiple projects and we don't want to
getting each other's ways, but we're going to be doing stuff, and so we may have to schedule
timings or something when we do things.
Right.
So we can see what people are doing and what they're hoping to where they're going to be in this project.
And, you know, obviously we don't all work on this full time, so.
That's right.
You know, it's something we might think takes a month, guess where.
It would take three months about the time we get all the different steps of that.
Or let me find out all the regulations that we didn't know about that.
Right.
Because once you start digging in, as you know, you find out,
oh damn, I didn't know I have to do that too.
So it can bring it out even further.
But it's just a way to make sure that we complete the circles
and we kind of get one project at a time
and we'll be working on multiple ones at a time.
Because when you look at that first page,
that lists everything we have, there's a lot on there.
But there's also three completion.
That is true.
Is there expectation of a project worksheet template for those other two
including projects?
Do you need to...
Yes.
But what I wanted to do at this meeting was
see if you're all in sync with,
is this the way we want to do it?
Are there any additional columns you want to add or subtract?
I just want to...
And once, if at the end of this meeting we say,
okay, this is good, or with these changes, this is good,
this is good, then Laurie can take this information
and she can, I mean, I got an Excel sheet,
but I'm not an expert on it.
She's much better than I am, obviously.
So she can take it and she can do the links
so that as we go to each one of these,
it can go right there.
That's a project.
Right.
So if you, this will be a link, so if you say
AEDC rules and procedures,
that will link you to the AEDC rules and procedures.
see rules and procedures.
Well, I was instantly thinking we could actually put a tab
at the bottom of your main sheet here,
and we could still keep this as a spreadsheet.
And each one could be a tab on the page below.
Well, actually, that's how I have to set up on the Excel.
And I'm thinking what I could do is I could edit this
so that they all link to these, so if you change it here,
it gets reflected here.
So like this one, I notice the start date doesn't match.
Yeah.
But if we had them linked, that.
Right.
It would be that cell that's updated.
So whatever.
So when you make it complete here, maybe it shows up complete there.
So you don't have to actually, this, you just see a running Pally of whatever, based upon this.
And then we'll have a database that we can go to and find out, okay, we've been at this for six months.
What do we have done?
Yeah.
So I think I could set it up for one, copy it and paste them all in,
and then whoever's the project owners could then edit it as they are going along.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
And where will this leave?
That we have access?
Could it live in my AEBC folder?
My AEBC 03217.
I have a Google doc that I can put it in there and I can share it with all these people that are...
I don't see why we couldn't do that.
Is that okay with our...
Yeah, I think...
You learned all about, but it's in, it's not in our...
Our email, that's the...
That's not a working...
I think you're working on a document.
I don't think that's different than having a meeting.
You're by yourself working on the document.
Right.
But we're going to be going into that to be working too.
Right. So, for example, this one has my name on it.
I could put the ownership only as the project manager.
You know, like the ownership of this tab is only the project manager,
and they're the only ones you can edit.
only once you can edit things there.
You can lock these down so that then,
that's only like one person able to edit that one thing.
It's just your Google Docs or is the town's Google Doc?
Well, it would be mine, because that's my, I made a Google
account called AEDC, because I don't have a time account.
If the town has one, would they give me, I don't know why we,
I don't know why we have to have a separate one.
We're just working.
It's like, where is your, you know, like,
could be part of the .
Yeah, because we, on the school committee, we used to work.
We had the ability to go into Google Warb Documents.
Right, right.
Yeah, it's fine.
That's perfectly fine.
It doesn't go against the meetings.
Right, right.
Okay, so I think Steve should own it,
and then he can give me permission to go in and edit it,
and it's your document and it exists where you have it,
and then, or if you want to do that,
and then I would just do it.
If I'm the project manager of that project, yes.
with that project, yes, but he's the project manager,
another one, he's the person that.
Yeah.
But you're looking for you to set them up, so we don't all have to
write out how...
So they're all set up the same?
Yes, right, right.
And then I can put ownership of who the project managers are,
like each sheet you can protect it,
so the only person who can edit that sheet is the project manager.
And then I'm going to make it so that the results show up here,
so the only person who can edit this page is Steve.
to see, right?
So let's talk for a second.
Yeah.
So let's say that we're starting a new project and
it's you and three other people.
Yeah.
And you're working on it and you're saying, okay,
let's figure out the different tasks that we believe we've
going to accomplish to get this all done.
And you make a list of them.
Then if Jenny was the project manager,
she would be the one to go in and list those.
Is that accurate?
Right.
I'm just going to call it Jenny.
This is the tab with Jenny's name on it.
It's got her email that says she has permission to access it.
You can go in and click on that sheet in the Excel sheet.
And you can then go in and you'll be able to edit all of this.
For this, I'm going to make one of these for each of
and you say you already done it, but each of these things.
I'm going to send you what I have and you can do what you want.
Yeah.
So why don't we set a goal for like the next meeting.
I'll have all the
tab set up for these 16 projects.
Yep.
And then what we can do is look at it.
I can show it to you on the computer.
And then we can assign who's going to have what permission.
So I know what email account to give permission.
And so everybody at the meeting agrees on that rather than me just
seeming like I'm.
Yeah.
You know, so I can show you guys the document, show you the permissions,
and you can all agree.
And then I can all agree.
And then I can even transfer ownership back to you, and you can have it.
And then, you know what I mean?
So if there's that question about, you know, you know what I'm saying?
Like somebody says, oh, well, or you could go and change it.
I can take my ownership off, everything except for my tab I'm on, if I'm on a tab.
Then the other question is, when we finish a project,
do we want to put maybe the master project list on our website so that people can see?
Well, we could put this on the website.
You could put this with no ability to edit or anything.
No, people could view this, and it gets updated as these things change.
Whatever's changing on these tabs will pop, we'll change this.
So we can put this on, yeah.
And only people could just view that.
They would, we can block all of this so they can't view it.
Yeah.
If you want to do that, yeah.
Anybody not want it on the website?
Because that way, it's transparent, it's the reason working on it.
They can come to our meetings and they can read the minutes.
So they'll be able to look at it.
They won't be able to do anything with it, but they'll be able to look at it.
And, I mean, we could make it so the one that's viewable is just the multi-project tracker,
not each individual project.
Yes, I think that's probably.
So we're reflecting the status things that show up here based upon here, right?
Yeah.
Well, all the information, pertinent information is going to be on that.
Right, right, yeah.
But this stuff here...
Not just a working document, yeah, we're all using that.
So I'm noticing that these field names are the same,
so those things will link to happen in here.
So as you edit it, if you change those things,
so maybe we put a status on here.
We can see status, you know.
So maybe we put a status.
Because there's a status over here.
You have a status, so I could put a status here.
Yeah.
And then it would show, like, number of...
it would show complete.
Should we run the process of putting together with his one so we make sure he knows?
I already gave him the information.
Okay.
The other thing I would recommend, I think it's great that you manage everything and have control
but have another user IDU password that maybe U.S.
Oh, okay.
Well, I can put him on there.
And I'm going over this at a Monday meeting.
On the Monday selection.
Right.
So that way, you know, stuff happens.
Right.
Well, exactly.
So that's why I was saying, even, I could transfer ownership of it to somebody else.
And I could, if you wanted, have me be a viewer or a comment or you click an editor.
Or just having, you know, a user ID password that's not really used, but has access.
You know, we'd have backup accesses for, you know, for, sometimes people, we've been unexpected.
So that way we can get out of the information.
Yeah.
That would be a good thing.
Right.
Yeah, so. But I think maybe it would be good for the master to, you know, like, I think probably you or somebody on a Tom website be the owner of it.
So there's a Tom Google account you're saying?
I'm sure there is.
I'm sure there is either, yeah.
So we can investigate that, and I can get it to be there, and then maybe I can come in one day and get it set up on the Tom's Google account and then just give my AEBC Google account.
permission to go in and work on it. So it'll be owned by the time. Okay, that would be good.
That's, I think, the better thing. Yeah, well, it's something. Yeah, yeah, right. And then they can just
give me permission to edit it, and you'll have permission. And then you'll talk to Ronald.
Yeah, we'll figure out we're going to do it that way. That's the best way. Because ideally, if this
goes well, it should survive all of us. Right. Yes, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's
ultimate. I like that.
Okay. All of these things need to be part of the regular town. Right.
So a note there would be like, I need to probably meet with you in Ron or you and somebody and whoever at the town to set that up, that document up.
Let us talk about that on Monday meeting. Yeah. And then we'll come. And on next meeting, we'll come back. Okay. But if you could maybe take this and play around with it.
Oh, okay. And then, yes. Yes. Yeah. Sometimes it's good to have examples to show.
Okay. Because it's hard to visualize it sometimes. Yeah. And I'm, like that. We're going to have copies of this at the select board meeting. So I'm going to go through kind of weird. As an update as to where our development is, here's where we're at, here's the projects. Here's something we're looking at doing for a project track. Because, point frankly, I'm going to make a project tracker for the select board for me to keep track of all the different things forward.
So you're having a way on the website to prime it because I don't want, I don't want, I don't want a
paper. Right, exactly.
Yeah, so you want to embed this one thing, we can embed that on the site.
So is it safe to assume looking at the project, multi-project tracker page?
There's going to be 16 projects for our, our...
Let's go through these and see if everybody is in agreement.
Oh, okay.
Just a couple things before we go.
So when we put team, we probably should put people's last names.
I think it's going to be on the website.
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
and whoever T-M, what is team mean?
What is team mean?
What is T-E-A-M-B-Word and S-N?
What are these little town manager, planning board?
So we're going to go ahead.
Yeah, yeah.
What does team mean, T-E-A-M mean?
The project team that's working on that particular project.
So project team members.
Okay, because you have project manager, you have multiple names.
Yeah, we probably.
You probably should add it that a little bit.
Yeah, normally a team would be the team members, and then they would have the multiple names.
And then the...
So you just had that on the other page.
I think the way we did this, the way I thought through it, and like I said, that's why it's
when we're talking about it, is let's say that we do a project that, well, let's just take the
one that we did for the...
Opportunity Zone, right?
Yeah, Opportunity Zone, it's basically...
Who on the committee?
The first part...
The project manager, yeah, I had the things not labeled properly, but I had initially thought about who are the economic development team members on that project?
Yeah.
And then if we're bringing somebody in from the outside, who are they? Who's the rest of that team?
Yeah, so on your project worksheet for, say, number eight, you have a project manager that says Steve Felton, and it says team members, and you have the three team members there.
So I was thinking you could take those two fields.
That field could be there.
Yes.
And that field could be there.
That makes sense.
Yep.
So then if I looked at this, I would know who the project manager is.
Right.
And I would know who the team members are.
Yeah.
Because I see them as the opposite.
Right.
But look at this page.
I'm going to update it.
So it reflects that.
No, I got what you said.
That makes sense.
I think that's a great idea.
And then the only other question I had is, just a quick one.
For example, on your opportunity zone,
zone designation?
It shows that you're done, but you really aren't done.
We're done with the opportunity zone application.
Okay, so only...
That's been completed.
Now, if we get the designation, guess what?
We'll have a whole new project.
But then you should just say application on here, okay?
So people aren't confused.
Yeah, I'm just saying, yeah.
If I read that, I would think you were done and you're now designated.
Oh, yeah, so...
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
But if you look at your project here, it's the same.
Why don't you say application submission so people understand because really, you know, it's, yeah, I see.
It's on your project, but if you're going to be posting the multi-project tracker, yeah, you really...
It's going to match.
I'm going to make sure that cell is reflected.
Okay, okay.
So if you could opportunity zone application submission.
Submission.
That's it.
That's what you should have, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean.
So it's all in terminal.
Yeah, yeah, especially for anything that's outward facing, you know, because people really don't know.
I'm really doing this just to get the concept and that you can even go through this.
Yeah, right, right, right.
Yeah.
Well, that's right, because now we're in picking and we're going to make it better.
That's the object of the game.
And well, second was the goal.
Are those going to go on the individual work?
You know, meeting the master plan goal, if that's what that's the most of all, I mean, first of all, I was, I'm trying to,
envision how that's even, how are we going to do that?
Is that more work than we need?
Yeah, I think it might be, I think before, before we, I designate, we're going to do this
as a project, we as a team would say, oh, yeah, this covers rules, one, five, six, and eight.
We're done.
So that's, that's legit.
I don't know that we have to necessarily have each one listed that it applies to.
That's just my thoughts.
I just don't just have just different ones let me know.
Well, why don't you put that on your project tracker?
But you don't have to put it on the multi-project tracker that goes.
I think anything public-facing has to be simple and not anything.
Somebody has to take another step to understand.
So they get the picture real simply in plain language, or else, you know what happens.
People get confused.
They're out of the menus.
So we'll take out the Nuskulls on the best from the project.
Yeah, you don't need that.
We'll put it on the 10th, the project worksheet.
Well, let's say that, so let's say we put it on there.
I think the way we've got it on there, I think the way we're going to,
We'll almost have to say one, we'll have to put, we can't spell them all out of,
otherwise it'll be a paragraph.
No, so look, I think what I'm going to do is put create a section on here called goals.
Yep.
And I'm going to make a drop-down list through here of how many goals do we have.
Yeah.
And you can go through and you can pick it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
That's good.
You always have the goal.
We can see the goals that we've chosen, right?
And so you can see the goals that we've chosen.
to 10 goals.
Yep.
Okay?
So in this case, we'd have 10 check boxes.
Yep.
Okay, and you'd see them spelled out right next to it.
Yep.
I got to, I don't know the total weight, but I know I can do that.
And let's make sure that the adjustments we've just talked about making to the rules didn't add any additional goals,
because I might have gone to 11, I'm not sure.
You have to verify that.
And then?
Do people understand if they see on your site, AEDC, you know, AEDC, I know what SWAT means?
I know what SWAT means, but I'm saying other people, I don't know, analysis and strategic projects.
I'm not sure what that covers, your SWAT analysis.
So maybe we just need the SWAT equals on the bottom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But are you, what are you, what are you using your SWAT for to determine your...
We've done the SWAT to determine...
Your own?
We've already done it all.
That's for your internal.
Huh?
Yes, we just did that.
Was that for your internal?
What is that?
I guess that's what I'm trying to understand.
Was the SWAT for your own internal functioning, or was it for...
We identified the strength of the...
We identified all those.
And actually some of them we got from the last Charette that was done 10 years ago.
And then we added additional ones.
So we...
And then we, after we had about 15 in some cases down to eight,
we then put values to them so that we ended up...
so that we ended up with here are the top opportunities.
So maybe what you should write is, may I suggest, for example,
so your SWAT analysis, if I'm correct, was done for the ADC's for the ADC to determine your strategic plan.
Is that right?
To feed into your plan?
Is that correct?
Okay.
So maybe I would put, okay, this is what I'm saying.
For anything public-facing, you may want to make it simple, you know, and just say, you know,
and just say, you know, you know.
I don't know what you're going to say instead of SWAT, but SWAT and, you know, something analysis and, you know, to develop, you know, AEDC plan, you know, or plans or something.
I'm just saying it's...
To develop our project, you know, your project, you know, your agenda or whatever you want to say.
You know, so people know, I guess I'm just trying to translate it into people's looking at it, you know?
No, that's all.
So, I mean, you have foreigners here sitting here so that we're...
we can kind of tell you what we, we, because I've never seen this before, so.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if those who have us, there are those who still SWAT or now.
I mean, if you, if I, I know SWAT a lot, I mean, but, but, but, and you, and they'll think you're going after flies.
Everyone that looks at it.
No.
No.
And that's not right now we're looking to.
So, you know, one of the things I think I can also maybe potentially do is have like a little
drop-down bot, like if you hover over it, you might be able to get a little blur of what the project is, just a quick,
project summary. Like, we should probably have a project summary over here.
On the individual? Yeah. For each project. Project summary that says what Alan was just
talking about. That's a very good idea.
That's a good idea. It's a simple and people are used to being able. Yes. That's nice. And that's
going to be on the individual template. Yeah, and then I could probably have that somehow revealed if somebody
hovers over it, they could see it or something. That's good idea. Yeah. So it would just be kind of like a one or two
sentence blur, not like. It'll explain it. There'll be enough to explain. Yes, right.
And that's not, right, but it's not like going to be like a huge. A sentence.
Yeah. Yes. And I think we should at the top here add at Ashland Economic Development Committee,
blah, blah, blah, blah, multi-project tracker, you know, for, for 26, 27, I don't know.
You know, we should probably be more specific about what it is when you will see it.
The time frame of it, I mean, this is a living document. So there really is no end date.
All right. You know what I mean?
Right, because we're going to cross-up off data. Yeah. And then what we're...
Okay. Okay. Okay.
Hopefully we'll get to this too quickly, where we say, okay, we have nine projects that
completed. Let's move that into the archives.
So that you're just looking at the current. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be in another spot.
Yeah.
the complete don't go away.
Well, we can show them in the strike through.
You know, you can see all the progress we've made, right?
Instead of going, sit in your master plan, I've done.
Shackwop off, not a stressor.
That means you're getting rid of this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, so maybe just I'm thinking,
Town of Ashland,
Economic Development Committee,
multi-project tracker.
So we're just very clear what this is, right?
That's good.
Yeah.
So let's, these projects to make sure that we're all
still in agreement with those.
because these are ones we talked about, you know,
through, go through our swan analysis,
everything else.
These are the ones that we had come up with.
And once we go through those and say,
yep, we're still good with those,
then we need to talk about, okay, who's going to do them?
We were always taught that, like you have here,
create, upgrade, to have that at the beginning
of every goal, action.
And that's the project name?
Yeah, yeah, and you have a lot of them here.
Yeah, develop pursu, developed,
to, develop, coordinate, communicate.
So, like, number one, should be established, maybe.
AEDC.
And that's what I met with the spot, and, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Update master plan.
So that's a nice action word, right?
Establish.
Yeah.
And then what did we do with master plan?
You have to write it.
You update it.
Oh, we update it.
Master plan section or check.
The chapter.
The squad you created.
Yeah.
But you didn't do the whole plan, right?
Right.
We did our chapter.
Yeah, you have to check.
Oh, the master updated the economics of AEEE economic development.
And it says right they have AEDC master plan.
Yeah.
Or maybe you should say AEC chapter.
Yeah, I thought it was a master.
If you read that, AEDC's master plan.
Chapter of, AEDC chapter of,
AEDC chapter of masterplan.
Yeah.
And we spell out what AEDC means.
I'm going to put that right at the top.
A town of Ashland Economic Development Committee, AEDC, AEDC.
Correct.
And then, every time.
Make sure you kept doing everything with San Diego.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going to try.
Yeah.
And add GIS layer.
Is that what we're going to?
Create.
GIS layer for commercial industrial.
Create.
Create.
Layer for commercial industrial in town.
Wow.
Well, we're taking that.
But we're going to be, we're going to be doing the town property as well or just the commercial industry?
Oh.
Well, I think...
Well, I think...
Well, the thing is with the mill is...
We're going to have a layer for the commercial and industrial, but you'll be able to filter
so that you could just look at the town.
That will automatically be in there because it's going to be designated as a separate...
Well, you can already filter it by just typing in town back.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're going to create a GIS layer for commercial and industrial property.
Property.
You can bring up the layer twice.
You can go to the second layer.
And to create a town property filter.
Commercial and industrial.
So you can filter by town property or by industrial commercial?
Well, they're going to create the layer.
They want to get...
That's what I'm asking.
Yeah.
So when you click on it, it'll pop up like all, uh,
commercial will be blue or something.
Right.
To highlight blue.
And all industrial...
No, I know, and then all industrial will be a different color.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it'll be a different color, but on the same one.
Right, on the same one.
And then property, if the town property is separate,
it's not on the same?
No, it's not going to be in the same.
Oh, okay.
No, you'll be able to...
Oh, I see.
There's already a filtering system.
I see.
Because it's a town on all of them,
that's why it's separate.
You can filter it to town.
Okay.
You may want to put a, that's the reason I say
that when I read slash,
I read or, you know, a slash can mean or, you know, so, you know, like she-he or.
Yeah, so I just, yeah, yeah, I just, I just, I just wanted to know, okay.
That's a good point.
Yeah, I just, I.
Greening and marketing plan, that sounds good, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Upgrade town physical appearance.
Yep.
It's starting to really upgrade downtown, isn't it?
Like, we could, we get stuck, yeah.
Develop relationships.
Do it exist in business, pursue, develop, what are we going to do with the mill owners?
How about organized?
Yeah, that's good.
And what's the goal of that meeting?
Just to meet?
Because...
I mean, if I'm on here.
Because we want to do something with the mill, and that's going to be a major piece of the
opportunity zone.
So we want to get together with the mill owners to...
Because I can't get the details.
No, no, no, no, but I'm saying if you were going to write a
sentence and add another word to describe, organize a meeting.
I mean, it's like a nothing.
Organize meeting with mill owners.
Well, it's just, well, I don't think it's just owners, is it?
I think you're trying to coordinate the, develop a strategy, right?
Or something, or, I mean, what's your goal?
What's your goal in having a meeting is kind of what I'm saying?
Meet with mill owners to block.
But it's not just...
You're trying to create synergy.
Synergy and getting their concerns and
Yeah, it's more about that.
So it's consult with, it's a meeting to consult with mill owners?
Well, it's, it's, I guess consulting is one aspect of it, but it's actually to just connect with them.
You know, I mean, they, several of them have made it very clear that they had no connection to the town at all.
So, so by.
How about a working group, like a mill owner's working group?
Yeah, why?
Yeah, that could be, yeah.
Yeah, or, you know.
I think that you're jumping.
Jumping the gun, right?
All we're trying to do right now is just, yeah.
You're going to call each one and let them what we're up to.
Okay, so you're going to have an informative, you're going to have an informational meeting.
Yeah, it's informational.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's good.
It's mostly to talk about what we're doing and how we can help them.
Yeah, so, you know, in the owner's meeting?
Do they have to be owners?
So really what you're going to do is?
Well, I mean, owners, CEOs, I mean, you, you, you, you, you, you.
more decision makers that you mean mill operator or what do we have any we're going
to get in touch with what I don't let's like make more difficult it should be right
we have four or five owners we're going to get in touch with them that's
they're going to come to a meeting yeah we are going to tell them what so me so meet
meet with yes so meet with mill owners it doesn't matter owners yeah just to talk
about to share I mean I don't know that's why I'm saying you know
don't have a name for the meeting.
Yeah, all this is to meet with them.
You're an initial meeting.
That's it.
Initial meeting with bill owners, that's all right, too.
You know, meet with a, to stick.
But is it a collective group or is it individually?
Individually.
Oh, it's, oh, see, I had a totally different, that's what I'm saying.
It's basically what I do for a living.
Yeah.
I go and sit with businesses, hear their concerns, and then I'm with a government.
Now, stage two could be, get a,
them all together. Oh, sure. But first it's like
we want to be
one-on-one with them, understand where they're at,
what they want to do, talk about. Maybe that
wasn't clear. No, I thought you were having a
group meeting with them. I mean, just, see,
you think you write something here and everyone
knows what you're thinking. How about meet with mill
owners? Meet with each,
you know, meet with the town,
each individual town, you know,
with whatever, arrange meetings
with each. Yeah, like the word
arranged. Arrange meetings
with meeting.
because you're not talking about one, right?
No.
Okay, so arrange meetings with town mill owners.
Or something?
Any potential mill owners or just the mill owners?
Just the mill owners.
So you were going to arrange, you're arranging meetings.
It's not one meeting.
Okay, now I totally got a different picture of what you were doing.
That's what I'm saying.
You think you're saying, because you all know,
but those of us out here don't know.
We don't know.
So you say, well, the word,
A range actually should probably shouldn't be actually because you want to actually do it.
Do it as well.
Yeah, so you want to have...
Hold meetings, hold meetings with individual, you know, with each mill owner or something like that.
Yeah, make it so that a normal person knows what you mean.
Because the whole idea is to show that you're doing something that they understand, you know?
Right, I think, if you're going to bother making it public.
So hold meetings with mill property.
I'd like to ask the question.
With each, yeah.
With each mill owner.
With each mill owner.
Okay.
We're talking about mill owners.
Yep.
Yes.
Well, the owner can always give us designee like a CEO or something, you know.
Do we have businesses down there who are renters that we want to make sure are included somehow somehow.
Not in this.
Not in this first stage.
Not in this stage.
All this is, do meet with the owners.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now we, now what will happen after that is going to be determined by how we do with this.
Okay, we're talking to business owners or mill owners.
Mill owners.
Mill owners.
Because you said business owners.
It's the same thing.
But in the mill.
These are businesses in the mill.
Who own the mill that they're in?
But like they're in.
So it's where I'm getting better.
So it's actually businesses.
Oh.
There are five, let's, we're getting way too carried away.
Yeah.
There are five owners.
One of them is us, the town.
Yes.
We've been to meet with each of them.
So we're just tracking real estate owners.
That is correct.
Real estate.
Not business owners, real estate.
That is correct.
That's where I was getting.
I think they're one in the city.
When I go visit a business, I don't, I don't sit and say, well, I, I, I use the owner of the building.
That's where I'm at.
They run.
their business.
They need support to run their business, whether it's a CEO or a plant manager or whoever.
So you're not looking at the GIS to see who owns what.
You're looking at a business.
That's correct.
So which is different than mill owners?
You know, and it just happens that, like he said, they're only five of them.
I know who they are.
They're the owners and we're going to be with them.
There we go.
Period.
I know you.
Yeah.
John's West didn't hold initial meeting with mill owners.
Okay.
With each mill owner.
So, but can I just, like, so I think I heard Andrew Lee owned the building, but he rents out, like, three.
We're meeting with Andrew Lane.
Okay, not the, not the individual business.
Right, he's not meeting with the businesses.
With each mill owner.
Correct.
Property owner.
It's the actual, the mill owner.
It's the mill owner.
He owns maybe more than one property.
He owns one big property that has a lot of junk on it.
Yeah.
New property owners, yeah.
Like I said, there's five owners.
We're one of them.
We have four.
Yeah, four others.
Yeah.
Okay.
We need to move on in Mexico.
Yeah, we'll keep going.
That's what I have.
Hold on mission.
Yes.
In fact.
You got the master.
You've got the master.
I have the master?
You got the master.
You're all the master.
So what is his number 11 me?
Okay.
Meeting, PSU, Plymouth, Chamber,
wrapped in red.
When we did that, we were talking about, correct me if I'm wrong,
we were talking about creating a contact with him
and maybe having them come to one of the meetings
and set there some synergy.
They're stakeholders, and we would think they should be involved.
Invite them.
Stakeholders, how?
Well, Don Byrds happens to run a little university
down the road.
They're going to do training at some point,
with some of the businesses that are here and come here, the stakeholders.
You know, they're part of the, you know, of the...
So would that be, like, meet with Plymouth area stakeholders or Plymouth area,
and then you could put those in the...
No, just what it says.
We're going to meet with Don Berks at Plymouth State University.
See, I don't see Don Berks now.
We're not going to put a...
We're not going to say...
That's in your head, I know, but...
I know, but, you know, but, you know,
I mean, you know, Don Berks may change, may say, why don't you meet with the...
Right, right.
Right.
Right.
That's all I need to know.
What's this now?
Wrapped in red.
Wrapped in red.
Regional economic development.
All right.
I got it.
And all of them are, all of them have economic opportunity,
and that's why you're meeting with them, right?
I mean, you think...
Well, they would play a role in going forward.
I mean, you know, every...
Every community that we deal with on behalf of the state
has either a contact with a near...
Bair University,
a regional
economic development corporation.
And so these are all people
that I guess I would look at them more
as our partners.
You know, they would be partners
to this. And one of the things that we haven't
done well over the past is
collaborate and coordinate
with other entities
that can help in the
development of the economic.
In other ones, we've done it well, we haven't done it.
Right.
You've been better.
So this is our attempt to begin to do more.
There we go.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is what this group should be doing.
Right.
That's one of the...
And the Plymouth area, and it's a Plymouth area
chamber.
They consider you within their...
Yeah, I know.
I mean, that's...
I mean, that's why they wrote,
they write letters of...
They write your recommendations, you know.
That's, yeah.
That's why I'm just clarifying it.
There's something going on.
They were all a member of it.
It's a member of it.
It's all that they are, I'm sure.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Yeah.
We need a...
So meet.
Meet.
Meet.
Meet.
No, meet with.
Meet with...
Meet with...
And then put commas so it doesn't look like ores ors or something.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That's what...
PSU, comma.
Yeah.
Pseu, comma, Plymouth area, chamber.
Yeah, comma.
Grapped in Regional Economic Development.
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be great.
No, just the fact that I didn't want to make it too long.
It's, it's...
For what it's worth, it's not the Plymouth Chamber, actually is called the Pemmy.
Oh, they call a Pemmy.
It is?
Oh, Steve Rans is Pemmy.
I didn't know that.
Because they signed one of our letters.
I don't remember it Pemmy.
Okay.
What did you and communicate?
Yeah.
Yep.
With Ashley non-peltics?
Mm-hmm.
They can meet the Ashland Library.
And I think we already have a date for that.
I think she said October or something.
Yeah, you would written it here.
Okay, excellent.
The next one's going to be a little bit different impact piece proposal.
Draft?
Draft?
Return it's good.
Prepare?
Create.
Create.
Because it's actually creating impact.
But don't want to draft it first?
You know, like, you can learn about it, right?
Oh, God.
Yeah.
Yeah, we've got a lot of learning to do.
The impact fee is not as easy as you think it is.
No, it's very, yeah.
It's not like the town's our size and seeing that they have one and how they do.
Oh, the feet.
Well, like, yeah, but still, we have to justify everything we do, so if we do the impact fee.
How's they going to work that?
No, no, no, not that.
We have to figure out how we're going to, there's several ways to impose impact fee.
Okay.
The formulas, I should say, different formulas.
We have to pick the formula, come up with,
which would be defendable, you know, we can defend it if somebody brought us to court.
Okay.
So they have to be able to break it down.
How did you come up with that number?
Why is it appropriate to have that fee?
Yes, exactly.
So I feel like, I feel like this might be like one of those things where there's someone who has an area of expertise.
Oh, we are definitely, we're going to meet with an exchange of planning.
Oh, okay.
Because I was going to say when I looked and I read Laconia's,
proposed new impact fees.
It looked like it was prepared by somebody.
Professional, it's a professional type of, it seemed like not their
EDC, but somebody who does impact fee type of thing.
I can assure you that the group sitting at this table is not capable.
Right, exactly.
It might as often put the budget.
But you could like, so we have to bring in the right people with the right skill sets.
So it's not even impact fee proposal.
It's, um,
you're like establishing, but you're establishing a, what is it, a set of, I don't know, you're investigating me.
So you're investigating options?
Well, the goal of the project is going to have an impact.
Yeah, yeah.
You're researching.
We get, this has to go before the town.
Right, for a warrant article.
Yeah, we're a movie challenged to get it done.
Yes.
For a march.
I don't even know.
No, I don't think.
I don't think that's possible.
So maybe use the word investigate or, like what you said, what was it that you said, Lori?
The research or investigate, you know, impact fee.
Options.
Research is probably a good word.
Research.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So research options for impact fee?
For town, it's a town impact fee in the town.
But impact fee, we're looking for, I think, a,
an expert, right? Like impact BX?
Well, no, there's a lot of stuff we have to do.
Right.
Before that.
So you have to research it, yeah.
Research and impact these.
Let's keep it simple.
Research, that's good, good.
That's good.
Then nobody feels threatened.
Because any time anyone sees fee in this town, I think they run.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
If you're living here, this doesn't impact you at all.
Yeah, but they see the word fee.
you know, fee, right?
Fee is like a, it's like T-A-X.
But even if it's considered.
Consider, we have to, you've got to have the master plan, and you have CIP.
CIP has to be done in a certain way.
And the money has to be kept in a separate fund,
because if you don't do the projects,
you have to get the money back.
Yeah, right.
So there's a lot.
I just feel like we could hire somebody, and they'll be like,
oh, yeah.
I'm just going to say it's not.
There you go.
I bet you've got to show it.
It's like the website thing, you know.
Yeah, it's not really that hard, but you just have to.
It has to be managed.
Yes, it's going to be, well, it definitely has to be managed.
But I'm saying before we even get that far,
you get that far, you can find it first.
You've got to figure out how you're going to come up with the fees.
Steve, does the town allow the municipal.
Because you can go to the number of bedroom, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Right.
But I think that the person who writes them all the time would instantly know
because these are the things you want to do,
rather than us spinning our wheels trying to figure out all that.
You should just reach up to that.
And they also know, hey, tell us.
But that may be your proposal, Lori.
Right.
All this goes in to the impact.
Right, I understand.
But public works.
Right.
It's just like, I understand.
Anything that goes into your tactics, we go into the impact.
But the expert is going to be the expert on it.
Oh, yeah.
You're right.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
It's like him two days.
It would take us two years.
Right.
We wouldn't get it right.
No, we would not get a right.
Well, did you hear, you know, just to suggest it the New Hampshire Municipal?
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, then use them.
Yeah.
So maybe that says reach out today.
And they're all lawyers in that organization.
Let's just say, research, impact fee, and we'll figure out what this comes on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
Well, we've talked about, I mean, that came up as one of the things that we don't have one.
We don't have one, and realistically, we're not going to get one.
Right.
So the options of that are basically, that's why I said town planner skill needs.
We're not going to get any town planner.
Might you get somebody that will do it on a part-time basis or a consultant?
Or the other.
The other thing I read about.
Well, the other thing I read about in the RSAs were, you can move in downtown, the other thing I read about in the RSAs was
some of the towns, the small towns, they just, when they have a project,
let's say that you're going to build some, let's say we're going to do a major thing at the middle
and it's going to involve all kinds of pieces, you can literally bring in a consultant
just for that project.
So that 90% of what you do, you might be able to take care of within the planning board
and the other areas, but if it's a major project, you bring somebody in,
just to help you on that project because that's beyond the skill sets of what we have.
That would be something also that Lake's region can be helpful with.
Yes, they'll know those kind of people.
Yeah. So maybe things are a little regional and kind of...
Maybe you research town planning resources, Tom Planner resources.
You know, like we're just researching it to identify.
Yeah.
You know, like you're going to research.
So like what you just...
said, you know, like, oh, the Lakes Region, whatever, we might be able to identify them there.
Yeah, research is probably a good word.
Research, town planner.
Resources?
I'm not sure, it tells me anything.
No, it doesn't.
Research Town Planner or needs?
No.
Options.
Is it one of your agenda items, Steve, when you talk to Lakes Region?
Because you're developing a relationship with them.
Why don't you just get rid of it as a separate item then?
Because it sounds to me like under, I could be, I don't know, because I don't know.
But I'm just saying, if you're developing the relationship with Lakes Region Planning,
I bet you've got a list there that you're going to talk about.
The guy I'm working with is the planner.
Yeah, so you may want to just, why don't you just do that and then, or you know what I mean?
And then I would cross off this town planner skill needs because it's so vague.
I mean, even what you just said was vague.
And you know, I'll create a 90 million questions.
Yeah, so I'm just trying to tell you.
I'm trying to be, like, the normal person.
I say, I go, let's cross it off.
Cross it off.
I love crossing things off.
Well, you've finished already?
And then under you, like, don't know.
No, I added that one because that was another one at our last meeting.
That should not be on a multi-tracker, because you don't have anything.
Well, who brought it up?
You brought it up?
No, I don't know. I did.
I added on to the after.
Add it home.
I think.
I think I don't, I don't.
Oh, I know a product.
I brought it.
I brought it.
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
So, what I think what we ended up coming, agreeing on, and like, you let no fraud is, there's a lot of underutilized, run-down properties, as well as a few auction properties that we want to try to get a handle on what are they and what can we do to maybe get them going in the right direction.
You can get them either better utilized or fixed up or sold or auctioned off so that something can be done with them.
How about identify it underutilized, comma?
Identifies probably a good start to that thing.
Take up the focus.
And I think we could probably look for a better word than run down, but.
Probably.
I like, underutilized is a nice word.
It's a nice word.
It's a nice word. That's a very nice word.
It's a very nice word.
Okay, we'll cut out and run down.
Underutilized auction properties.
Identify underutilized and auction properties.
What does that mean in auction properties?
Properties that we, the town owns, that need to be auctioned off.
Oh.
Because we have a few.
Should we say town owned?
Yeah.
Identify.
Underutilized, separate, the underutilized div is separate from that, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So put underutilized first then and town owned for the other.
Underutilized, we're saying that it could be run down.
It could be vacant, vacant homes, or it could be a vacant lot.
Yeah.
It's not being used to, it does be used.
Nobody's actually living there or running a business out of it.
So that's separate from the option.
But we don't really know.
Okay. Not officially.
Should it be underutilized or and?
It's almost like auction properties are a separate piece.
Yeah, it is a separate.
That's what I'm trying to say.
So I would put the,
under you can't own properties. No, you could say that you could say what you just said, you know, identify underutilized.
Underutilized would include properties. And just, and just drop the rest of it. Yeah. Yeah. Identify underused, underutilized properties. Yeah. And then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Okay. Get rid of town. Now, did I'm just saying that anybody thought of that I didn't put down here? I don't think I did, but I might have. No.
That's your only funny there.
Definitely enough to start with me.
Well, the big thing that stood up to me here, Steve, is that your name is on here a lot.
I was going to mention that. My name is on there. Way too much.
Yeah, too many times. You're going to be too busy to think.
So that's the next thing I was going to say. How about we go through these names and figure out who might have an interest or desire to leave any of those?
And then you're going to switch the project manager and team, right?
You're going to project manager is going to be one name.
Correct.
Oh, okay.
And the team will list everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah. So was Michelle the project manager for your OZ?
No, I was.
Oh, you were.
Okay, so you should have your name there.
Yeah.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Gotcha.
So you actually, the 88, well, anyway, no mind.
The developing, like the Lakes region planning, you know, is that like, are you going to take the lead on that?
Yeah, I've already met with them two or three.
Oh, you have, so Steve is doing that.
Oh, you're doing everything.
You really are doing everything.
That's where he has paid the big bucks in this town.
Yeah, a real big box.
Yeah, right, yeah.
So up during time, physical appearance, who's really the project manager?
Is it you or Jenny?
It's Jenny.
And so Bonnie's going next door on the team side.
Yeah.
So, but we should, I was just going from the talk.
down the first three, we can kind of check off that those are done, right?
And almost the GIS later.
The GIS, we're just, where are we out on that?
We just got to get the, you know.
I want to meet with Jane.
Yeah.
And then sometimes hopefully next week, I'll meet with Jane.
Because it's not, and I talked to Marissa, it sounds like everything's kind of like ready.
You just got to, because we get, the money's over here.
The money's there.
Marissa found all the zoning information that she thinks she needs.
So we just need to verify that they're correct.
Send it on to that, I forget the name of the company, that it pulls it all the data.
And once they have that, they'll enter it, and then kind of graphics will create the layout.
All right, so the better be on your project sheet that you did.
Yeah, you take Jane and I long to sort it a lot.
Right.
So, John, you become the project manager, and he and Jane are the team.
Should we have to do that?
Sounds like she's doing a lot of work, so.
She won't want to be on it.
Okay.
Okay.
But you know, just because something, you know, somebody doesn't have to, you know, the person who, for example,
when I think of a project manager, it doesn't mean they're the person who necessarily is doing all the work.
Oh, no, no.
So it could be the, you know what I mean?
It could be the person who's tracking it and having to do the writing and all that, right Steve?
Yeah.
I think we need a lot of places, Lori.
Okay.
All right, create a marketing plan for Ashland who's going to take the lead on that.
Well, I thought you wanted us all to work on that.
That's what it's happened.
That's why I put, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, the whole team.
That really does, because that's going to be.
Yeah, that's probably one bigger once here.
So talent appearance, Jenny's the lead, and Bonnie's the team.
Yeah.
And then if you think you need, and then if you think.
And then if you think.
think there's others you need to bring in you bring in existing businesses we said we need
to get a list of it'll be you're the lead on that you want to be yeah I don't develop
relationship with existing we basically need to get a list of all the businesses and then start
get in touch with them I actually have a list of existing what's that I think I have a list I was
creating a spreadsheet one day I can work on that keep on the team or lowering on the team
So when we go out and talk with them, I guess you have to figure out what our pitch is, but we're going to.
So I have a list so I can share my spreadsheet.
I was going through the GIS thing, so I've created it.
I'm almost thinking, let's wait until we hear what happens with the opportunity zone because that will give them.
Yes, that'll be huge difference, yes, yes, definitely, yes.
When do you hear that?
We'll know by the end of October.
Pretty quick.
Will we hear if we're on the list for the first.
around like on the 29th at the end of the month you should yeah oh we'll know so they communicate
that piece first the governor right so it's that pre-application kind of thing that you're on the
list to go to the governor right okay so we'll know that way so we'll know that piece
okay and then she'll she'll she'll make up her mind and then it'll be so by the end of
September we'll know if we're into 25 yes well unless she changes
well by the end of September we'll know that we've been recommended to be one of the
the 25 right yes correct I understood that's why I said we're not really
going to know until the end of she has the final say correct do we have um but she
in that in that application or is there a letter from like Andy or someone
requesting why yes oh yeah okay I've just yeah he he really went to tell with that okay
all right so you got he got a letter from from I think that the most powerful one by far is
that he had a letter from counselor Hill okay yeah yeah I have no okay so
she's the one that appoints all the commissions so when my commission who sees that
you could you know they're gonna pay attention to it okay I don't mean to ask
yeah so who's lead on the developed relationships that you know businesses they're
still on that one which will you're
no actually you know what um oh I was looking at Lake Treason
are we on number seven I'm sorry I was on number seven I jumped to number nine I'm
developed relationship existing businesses do we still need the project
manager yep and we're in we're not gonna do that till after we know a little bit
more so that's a whole right yeah so we're gonna hold yeah so what did we say on seven
who's gonna be the manager
no develop relationships with existing businesses oh TVD yeah yeah okay now we're in the late
region point okay so skip great but so the opportunity zone I'm taking it off here
Steve is a project manager and Lori and Vino and Michelle with a team right yeah yep
and we'll add her last name just because she's just yeah yeah develop relationship
with late's region planning I'm on number nine now
I met with them two or three times. So you're the lead? I guess I am on that one.
Beano's on your team. Yes. Okay. Do you need anyone else on your team? No.
Not. Okay. Depends on the project. Yeah. Yeah. The both Mill
owners meeting? Who's the need? I said it's been an extra mill owner, meet, meet with Millers,
initial meeting. Okay. Okay. And maybe you want to be? Sure. Okay. And maybe you should do it also for the regional.
that way because those are your kind of thing anyway. I mean, it's just the, you know,
the initial for the, you know, because you, you know, the right things to say to these guys.
Yeah. I hope so. And then you have that. Sorry, he's going to do. Oh, I know. He's going, but I'm saying it's.
Yeah. Yeah. It'll be myself and Bino.
And Bino, yeah. But why not put Bino as the lead, you know? Yeah. You should lead something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There we go. That way he can't run away.
He's all running anyway. I'm just teasing.
Just joking. And you're, you're managing the,
sending up the meetings with that.
So he already is doing that one. Oh, see, you were already doing that one.
The coordinating and communicate with action and nonprofit. I'll be going to go on the team or manager either way.
Yeah. You can be the managing.
Thank you. How's that? Okay. And Kendall, keep Kendall on there? Yes. Kendall knows everybody. Yes. You got me. We need Kendall. Oh, yeah. He's critical for that. Yeah. Can I be on that one? Because I want to create, like a web presence or all the nonprofits. You're on it.
Lori, you can be on all of them. Well, yeah. I want to make like a web presence of, you can't do that. You know, put them all like on that calendar.
I was talking about. Like, I think I just
that I'd like to create
a web presence for Ashland's
You just made me think
of something we talked about at the last meeting, and
I don't think we, I don't know if we
wanted to put this as another one.
And I forget who brought it up, but I thought it was a good one
was we're getting more
mixed zone
businesses in town and maybe
try to bring them
together so that we can
at least identify who they are
so that we can get
something that says, here are the
other businesses in town that are.
There are a lot of them. Yeah, there are a lot
of them. Especially, yeah.
What would be the goal to do?
The goal? When we're talking
about it, I think the goal was,
I can't remember who brought it up,
but it was
we're getting more and more
of those and it would be nice if
there was a way when people came in that
they could say, and here's the other businesses
that are up and operating in.
And where you find it.
And where to find it.
So it's kind of like a
and this is who we are
or this is where we are.
Yeah.
Identify mixed zones.
Businesses.
Yeah.
Would that include, say,
if somebody had an Airbnb or something like that.
It's more like, okay,
there's only certain zones that are mixed use.
Yeah.
There's a mixed use.
So if I started making
jam.
Jam.
The jam.
Yeah.
Perfect.
That's a mixed use.
Yes.
That would be mixed use.
All right.
Now, what happens when you have a business that's not in a mixed zone
and is doing a business?
And you have to be an industrial.
No, no, no.
You have to go through the zoning board in the
area.
Yeah.
But those were in the mixed use?
But like, what about the, like, poof with that vote we did, right?
Yes.
Oh, my gosh, I'm just trying to have black on her name.
Do you miss the mums?
Devin and...
The mom's on Highland.
Oh, my gosh.
I can't believe I can't be able.
Oh, she's, and you're right.
But, like, she runs a business out of her home with the gurnola thing.
Oh, good.
You know, that's not a mixed zone.
She brought it to the planning board and got all the variances she means.
Yeah.
She did it.
She's legal.
She's legal because she...
But I'm saying that's, it's not a mixed zone, though.
No. Right?
It's not designated.
No, she has to do a variance.
Right.
Oh.
Hey, who's going to leave that?
Well, first of all, do we want it to do that?
Do we want to cook?
I think it's a good thing to do.
I think it's a nice to be cold thing to eventually get a little map web presence where.
because I would all bought flower stay on Highlands to, you know, that's like that, you know, stuff.
I bought my pumpkin up.
But then that's not mixed zone, you're saying, some of it's a variance.
So you're really trying to get also some of the, right, home craft.
Is that it?
Right, right.
So I think it'll be a company.
Home businesses.
Home businesses, really.
Is that what you're trying?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There'll be more because of the.
use, but then there are others like...
Yeah, so it would be also, so, yeah, mixed use, but not really a zoning issue.
Right.
No, so it's fairly home businesses.
It's a home, okay, that's what I mean.
But that, people love that stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what attracts people to towns.
Okay, so how do we want to, if we want to do it, what's the action word?
Identify mixed use businesses.
Home business.
Identify home businesses.
I would just do home businesses.
I would just do home businesses.
Yeah.
Fairly easy.
Yeah, because we should have.
The town office should have.
Okay, who's going to do that?
Do you have anything to that?
Sure.
Can I agree with you?
Yes.
Who's the lead?
Dead.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I took you off topic there.
What number of it was?
Right now, we went to the library.
This is a new one.
This is a new one.
Okay, this is 17.
Well, I cross out 50.
Just the case you don't have enough to do.
Because we cross up.
You crossed one off.
So this would be like a map of small home or small slash small home businesses.
Yeah.
That's nice.
Research impact these, I think.
I'd like to do that with you guys if I can.
Research impact these?
Yep.
No.
We're still on the impact.
We're still on the impact.
We're on the fine stuff.
The home businesses.
We'll impact these.
We've got to go back.
Well, we got to go back.
Well, I think that maybe
some of the things I'm thinking about for
the non-profits, I also think maybe
for home businesses.
So I would just tap it.
If we're going to do it out, because you're the same.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
So I can, I'll help out, but I don't want to be like in charge.
And then when you meet with those,
like the Plymouth Chamber and stuff,
it would be great if you could, you know,
you had that stuff and you said, look, this is what we have.
Is there a way for you to help us advertise?
I mean, I'm just wondering if they do anything.
I don't think they do.
Well, I'm just,
as an example, but I don't want to go another path,
but when we put together the opportunity zone,
Lake's region helped us create a geographical map
that, you know, one of them had a bunch
of different recreational opportunities on
with the national, and the other had
traffic counts of all the roads in nationally.
That's big, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's neat.
All right, so we're on...
Research impact fees.
Research impact fees.
That's good.
to be, uh...
When you do that one?
Yeah, that's you.
And I'll be here.
And I'll help.
So, John's the lead and myself and Laurie.
Did we keep in the thin of wood and...
And the plan of wood.
We cross up the town center.
Right.
We eliminated 16 for right now, right?
Yeah.
I'll do that one.
Yeah.
So yeah, what's...
You got that one?
You get that one?
You're going to read a lead on that?
If Fran's not here, can you assign her to things?
Well, she's on the library.
No, she needs to be on more than that.
She needs to be on more than that.
Well, yeah, so you should throw her on.
Huh?
Do you want to save it out notice?
Yes.
Do you know anything?
I don't...
I don't...
I didn't get anything from her.
Where is that?
I don't know.
I hope everything's okay.
Yeah.
Um...
Okay, so...
Okay.
So.
Anybody who wants to do that?
Fran.
No.
Fran?
No.
Right.
Which thing we're talking about?
Underutilized properties.
Identify.
Yeah.
She knows a lot about the tow.
She knows the toe.
Okay.
And, you know, these dates, I just put my best thoughts on dates, but those can be all adjusted.
Give me a look at those.
Let's not try to go through all the days right now, I don't know.
Don't make them too tight for some of these ones that are like open-ended right now.
Yeah.
Some of these things aren't going to be done till mid-next year.
Yes.
Give yourself some breathing space on those if there are no deadlines.
Yeah.
So if we quickly go through who's going to be owners of the tabs across the bottom,
if I just started, for my sake, creating the tabs.
reading the tap, that's the thing.
I just want to verify that I have the right stuff.
So number one is Steve.
Number two is Bonnie.
Steve, John, AEBC,
Bonnie.
No, Jenny, I'm sorry, Jenny.
Whoops.
Steve.
We say TBD.
Oh, TBD.
I'm sorry, TBD.
Okay, sorry.
So Jenny, TBD.
Steve is number eight.
eight, Steve is number nine.
Vino is number nine.
Nile owner?
Number nine is Lakes Region Planning.
That's Bino?
That's Steve, I thought.
That's Steve.
Number nine.
What are the, you?
Well, you've been working with them.
Right, so Steve.
I can be on that.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I'll do it and we'll have Bino.
Okay.
And so Bino is number 10, the mill.
Yeah.
And then the change.
neighbor is Bino.
Yeah.
And then John is nonprofits.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fran is the library.
John is the impact fees.
Yep.
Yep.
And then I put in number 15, the mixed home business.
And is that Jenny?
Underutilizing.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no, right.
I am.
We deleted 15, so I was putting in.
She was replacing.
I would replacing it with the home business.
Okay.
Okay.
So the home business is going to be Jenny or Bonnie?
Jenny.
And then Lori will be underutilized properties.
Okay.
And then, so each of those tabs.
So then what I'm thinking is I can name the tabs,
and then whoever the people are that are the project managers
can then populate whatever, and it'll be reflected
who their team is, right?
And then now that we've established some of this,
talk to whoever is on your team and get together.
Then you start putting together, okay,
what are the tasks we need to do for this project?
Yep.
Yeah.
And then, once you get off the task.
Right.
So then, I mean, you could talk about it and you could, whatever, but I'll give you a tab.
We'll talk about that next meeting and say that's the way we want to,
or I could share.
out and people could start, I don't know, whatever.
I got to meet with Ron.
So you and I are going to meet with Ron for one of you.
Well, what are the talking about that?
Creating me being able to access a document.
I'll talk to Ron here.
I won't do that.
Yeah, because we're going to have that meeting on Monday, so
because next meeting we'll have that.
Yeah, we'll talk to Ron about how you're going to
and what time frame is, because these people are pretty busy too, so.
Right, but who owns the documents and can give you?
and it can give me edit proof.
Right, right.
That's all.
Because somebody has to own it that works, you know,
that has a mutual .
And it could be that you own the document
under your ashland.n.n.h.gov.
You may already own it.
You know, you shared it with me.
And so I can do that one.
Yeah, and with that with you go away,
Ashland has it.
Right.
You know, that's the thing.
So is that, that spreadsheet that you shared with us last time,
is that your Ashland.
NH.combe?
Is it under that?
Is that either?
No.
No.
It's not what I said to.
No.
It was your personal.
Yeah.
You know, I haven't even talked into that to see what we have in.
And I, because I remember they were, he was working on that, remember, because we couldn't do that before.
Yeah.
We'll get it figured out.
It needs to be on.
It may be one of those things in progress.
You can also, you could take the document you have in transfer ownership over to the town.
So it's not like it has to all over.
like it has to all of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But for now, I'm going to use your document and pretend it's the one that's the one that the town.
Yep.
We'll get one in the other one.
And I'll send you this next to this.
Yeah.
Wait a minute, he's got one more items.
Oh, we've got a couple of items.
Goodbye.
Nice to see you all. I got to go walk my dog.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It was really nice.
So I'm going to do it.
Good.
Suggestions.
Thanks.
Nice to see.
So I'm going to move on to the open topic round table.
I got a topic.
We just take a subject.
The planning board is having a public hearing tomorrow for chapter 8.
Which is our.
Oh.
They have to be too right, John.
And this is the first.
This is the first one.
So we're going to have a first public hearing.
meeting tomorrow at 6.30 here. If anybody wants to come. Oh, here.
Yeah. I'll do you.
I'm standing on it. I have open house.
And this, this was.
Open house at school.
Changed a little bit from what we turned in.
Oh, it has. So, yes.
Who changed it?
Kennell. It's his, it's his planning board. It's his master plan.
So he did he, he, I sent it to you?
Did I send it to you?
I'll send it to everybody.
I think so.
I'll send it.
So, so.
But it wasn't, it wasn't a lot of changes.
And it was mostly, just my own clarification.
So the planning board, the head of the planning board can take any chapter that they're submitted and make the changes that they want to.
Without blocking to the group that made it?
He just talked and said he made, he made some edits.
So he made some edits to them.
Okay, well.
Well, I think we should be able to have the opportunity to review those.
Be sure that the group that is put it together?
Has some people put?
Well, because then it's really not ours.
Once we've changed it without our, okay.
So that's where the public...
I'm going to send this to everybody tonight, so people will get.
But most of it is...
Well, can you summarize what each other?
Can you summarize what he changed?
How do we do one?
I don't know.
Oh.
Well, how do we know?
He just said he edited it a full bit.
He made it two edits.
Yeah, you know, you're not sure.
It's right.
No, I'm just saying he just made some edits.
Yeah, he didn't make any major changes.
Yeah, as long as there's no changes in me.
Nope, there's no, what do it call it?
Substitute.
I was going to say, the, the meat.
There's no changes.
How good is anyway?
Oh, see.
Oh, see, I did change that picture.
I know that.
I changed that picture.
Yeah.
But he said he made a couple of edits.
But we really should have been given approved...
Yes.
Yeah.
That's not kosher.
I'd be happy to review this in the moment.
Once you send it, you do in the morning and just...
Does that help?
Thank you.
Okay.
So I think, did she...
She has a copy of that.
Everybody's got the copy that I did it, right?
It doesn't look.
Well, there are, I think we changed, I know we changed...
I'm talking about...
I'm talking about after-de-cat.
That was...
I'll send it to you.
Okay.
If I can highlight it, that would be even better.
I'll send it.
I'll send it to everybody.
Okay.
Thank you.
Okay.
The digital copy?
Yes.
Because then you can do it compare with Word.
You can go Word compare this version to that version.
You're way...
Well, the tools, compare.
Yeah.
You take that, you have two documents, you tell them the documents, and they'll compare it.
Like if you have this one open, say, compare it to that file.
Okay.
So as soon as I get home and I'll see.
Okay.
All right.
And anybody else have anything to the open round table?
That was what I had on there.
Okay.
So I think the agenda for next meeting, if you want to bring...
The rules and procedures, pursuers and rules finalize.
And presentation of the individual architecture spreadsheet.
Are you going to go over that?
Yeah, I'll do that.
Yeah.
And next meeting, Beano will be the chair.
Is it?
Oh, we're into October?
October.
Yes.
Okay.
So I'm going to have to miss a couple of them.
I'll be out of town.
And who's your about, is it framed after you?
I don't remember.
I think I was trying after you.
So what's the next date?
I think it's the one I'm going to miss.
I'll be in Quebec City.
For the fair nights.
September 30th, I think.
Oh, it's a 30?
No.
No, no.
This is up.
So it'll be the first one.
It'll be October 5th.
Yeah.
I'll be up in Quebec City.
Somebody's got to do it, right?
Stop.
Life's chop.
Wow.
Wow.
I've been pitching for eight years about not going to
I've been bishing for eight years about not going to
Canadian trade shows to try to bring
Canadian companies down.
After eight years, the state is paying for our booth
to be at the largest trade show in the province of
Quebec.
So we're there for not, oh no, you're kidding.
I have tea there.
No.
That's one could afford.
It's still one.
Taylor 6.
They'll leave the lot on.
No, no one.
It's the first
Wednesday in the month.
Right.
It's the first and third.
I won't be here the first, but I'll be here.
We'll be here.
Two meetings a month.
Oh.
First and third is all it is.
All right.
So when they schedule this on the 6th,
I knew that this was going to happen.
I said, I don't know. I hope it's not my first
meeting.
So you have.
You're the fall chairman.
Oh, so I get an extra to work on it.
So that's good.
That's it.
That's it.
Just two things.
Project Tech Tractor.
Yeah, that might take home meeting.
Okay.
Sorry, yep.
Good progress, though.
So, anybody have anything else?
Any other topics?
If not, I will call this meeting in adjourn.
So what?
Oh, you know what?