Town of Gorham, NH: 2026 Town Meeting
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ahead and do that and we'll go to the um uh national anthem and then once we get to the voting stuff we'll stop until they're ready. Okay. First of all, I want I want to introduce the uh boys and girls from the National Honor Society who will be carrying the mics. There's Valent Violet uh Violet Strekin from the eighth grade. Uh, and she's gonna sing the Nash line violin. [applause] >> Thank you. Oh, [singing] say by the dawn early [singing] light. What so proudly we held at the twilight last gleaming who brought stripes [singing] and bright stars through the perilless [singing] fight or the [screaming] heart We watched were [singing] so gallently streaming and the rockets The moon's bursting gave proof through the night that our flag was still [singing] there. Oh, say does that star [singing] spangled [singing] or the land of the free and the above. [cheering] [applause] >> All right. I'd like to introduce the people from the uh Gor High School National Historical Society who will be >> Honor Society. >> Honor Societ What did I say? >> Oh, honor society. >> Pardon me. >> I guess you know what my >> anyway. Sophia Cooper, Maddie, [applause] and Giana. So when you want to speak, make yourselves known and they will come to you with the microphone. I'm asking everybody tonight because we are starting so late to keep their comments to two minutes. I'm asking you to speak from your speak seat, stand, and give your name and address for the record. All right? And then I'll recognize you may. I'd like you to keep your comments to two minutes if possible. No one will be allowed to approach the podium tonight except the budget committee, the select board, and any town officials that are here to answer questions. So, I am asking all the people that are here on petition board articles to speak from the seats and we'll go on from there. All right. Now, speaking speaking of the petition warrant articles, there's been a change in the state law regarding that. Okay. Where's my notes? All right. When it comes to petition warn articles, I will read the article. Then I have a list of the what we call the primary petitioners which are the people that are usually the first signatures on the petition war articles. I have some that are identified and some that are not. I will call out each petition war article to see if there's someone here to go ahead and speak to it. They are allowed by state law 10 minutes to go ahead and speak about the petition and I want them to keep their comments to 10 minutes only. So we'll see we'll try and get around that when we get to it. It's the first time we're going to have to do that. This is not something we've installed. This is state law has required me to do this. So we'll go from there. So, and they go back to my book. Okay. So, here we are. We've gone as far as I can right now. We're still waiting for the report from town clerk according to the election. As soon as that's here, I'll read it off to you and then we'll proceed to the artic other articles. So, um, we've got a few more minutes to wait apparently. I was hoping they were coming in now, but unfortunately not. [clears throat] We're talking I have a question. I just want to make sure. as the I didn't think Well, that's playing board three years. Paul Roington High 409. Planing board two years Tim Murphy 263 225 it appears that Mr. Murphy has been elected. Budget three years. Lisa Cardell 359. Don pass 290. I believe that was two positions >> budget twoear Scott Newton 391 Terry all about 310. Uh article Article two. Are you in favor of the adoption of amendment number one as proposed by the planning? Oh, wait. That was a lot. That was uh All right. No, I think I didn't. >> Yeah. Uh 194. Yes. No. 124. >> That would have been for the first zoning board amendment. Article two. What about the sessions? >> I don't have any listing for trustee. >> All right. >> [laughter] >> I can't hear you, sir. >> That's article five. >> That's article five. We'll update you. Okay. The zoning articles article two was uh 291. Yes. 246. No. >> Yeah. Article 3 all the zoning articles. Uh 339 yes 184 no. Article four of the zoning articles was 305 uh no 329 yes 202 nos. Um, school board uh, Gina Salado 402, Bonnie Dia 325, Robin Gagano 186. Um, Tim Buckton is the representative from Shelurn for 4:30 and unfortunately I was elected moderator for 418. So here we go. So >> did we have >> five? >> Article five. >> Karen, do I have a 12ft arc? Take it back. >> That's okay. I just I appreciate your >> future article >> which is town meeting. [clears throat] >> Okay, we're going to pass over article five and continue until we get the total study. So I am going to go ahead and proceed to article six. to see if the town will vote to modify the elderly exemptions from property tax in the town of Lauren based on assessed value for qualified taxpayers to be as follows. For persons 65 to 74 years of age, $50,000 for persons 75 to 79 years of age, $100,000 for persons 80 years of age older, 200,000. To qualify, the person must have been a New Hampshire resident for at least three consecutive years, own the real estate individually or jointly, or if the real estate is owned by such a person's spouse, they must have been married for at least five consecutive years. In addition, the taxpayer must have a net income from all sources of not more than $28,700 for single or married. a combined net income of $36,700 and own assets not in excess of $50,000 excluding the value of the person's actual residence and the land upon which it is located up to 2 acres according to RSA 7239- majority vote required move as presented >> I have a motion move to accept as presented do I have a second Second. >> I have a motion by Bruce Larry and a second by Andrea Fulbr. Discussions or questions? So, Suzanne Dearus Gormal, my question is when we're looking at assets, are we talking about liquid assets or is the car a person's car included in the assets? Is there someone that can answer that? >> Everything is your cars, motorcycle. >> Michelle, can you wait for the microphone? >> Yes. So, everything is included. cars, boats, trucks, motorcycles, ATVs, bank accounts, um 401ks, all of that is included as an asset. If you're it excludes your home and up to 2 acres of land, anything beyond that would be considered an asset as well. If you have a multif family home, the unit you occupy is not included, but the remaining square footage would also be included as an asset. you don't have. >> So, >> I'd like to propose an amendment to the article to exclude the value of a per of one vehicle because I don't see how a person can live without a vehicle. Okay. Discussion. Any other discussion? >> Do I have a second for the amendment? >> Mr. Oliver, I seconded the amendment. Discussion about the amendment. >> I'm not sure student that statutoily you can do that. The statute tells us what we include and what we don't. So, I don't know that you would be able to do that. I'm trying to hold it away because if I hold it too close, it screams at us. Um, I'm not sure that statutoily you can do that. Um, we would need to look at that. The statute governs what we include for income and it governs what we include for assets. I'm not sure you could exclude that. >> Okay. Other discussion around the amendment. Are you ready to vote on the amendment? Okay. All those person all those persons in favor of the amendment, raise your cards. Can I get the parts to count, please? So, can I get you guys to count? Betty, I need I need you to count how many people are out there. [laughter] >> [clears throat] >> 43. >> Okay, please put your please put your cards down. All those against you, please hold up your guards. >> [laughter] [clears throat] >> Oh, that's cool. change. [laughter] >> All right. The motion regarding the amendment is defeated 81 to 43. So now we go back to the original article. I have a second and a motion to accept discussion regarding article six. If there is no discussion, are you ready for the vote? Wait a minute. in the back. >> Thank you, Dave Goyette. Paul, I'm wondering, the state says what you can and can't do, but can the town amend that on their own and make it to what they want it to be? Is is that it has to go according to the state. So 3 years living in New Hampshire, that's that's fine to to not um but to [clears throat] be accepted to to get your your presence, you know what I mean? That makes it [clears throat] taxes. It seems to me people that lived here for 50 plus years and paid all that time, 50 years, paid their taxes, never missed it. And now it seems that, you know, well, I'm 70. I'm getting older and I and I'm thinking, geez, you know, I've got people from Massachusetts coming raising up their taxes as they paid $500,000 for a $200,000 house. So taxes are going up and I keep going on my taxes by college. They paid 300,000 for that house and take a while and and I'm just thinking if what was I think but but the thing is is if you live here that long and invested you know I'm proud of Norm the infrastructure everything Norm's done we got you prepared for those places far away and you say geez [laughter] we've got it going by the 10 we've got it going here But as we get older, the tax is going up, we're going to be taxed out of our homes. We're just going to be taxed out. We just can't afford to stay here. So, my house that I made my little nest account comfortable for us in retirement is going to be bought up by somebody who out of state for $500,000. And it just seems that maybe Horum, you know, can come up with something better that uh helps not just myself, but other people that are having a real difficult time with it because what's in here about being exempted. You almost have to be living under a bridge, I think, in order to get exempted. And and I don't think that's fair to, you know, people that pay taxes here for 50 plus years. It just doesn't seem fair. Okay. I wish that, you know, the board or somebody who's in charge, you know, could could help the number of the people a little more. I'm not saying no taxes, but at least keep our tax rate, you know, I paid, you know, a certain amount this year. Well, next year it goes up 20%, say 10%. >> Okay, let's see if somebody goes, >> give us a break on that. We'll pay too, you know, just maybe maybe get a 5% break. So anyway, okay, let's see if someone can answer that. >> Thank you very much. Thank you everybody for listening to me. I'm long. [clears throat] >> You know, the tax system that we're under was created by the state of New Hampshire, the legislature, [clears throat] and the governor. And they tell you exactly what you can and can't do. So, I know a lot of people don't understand this. I'm standing here as proof that you don't understand it, that you can't change it. The board can't change it. Um, the only people that can change the way seniors are treated in this state is the state legislature. You know, I got to tell you, when I got my bill and it went up $2,000, here's here's where I was different than everyone else. I knew it was coming. And when I saw Walmart and Great Lakes Hydro get a half million dollar break on their taxes, I knew that was coming, too. To be honest with you, I knew what the election results were going to be, but I gave it my best shot. And this brings me back to this. If you don't like the way the tax system works, you need, and I I mean this with all sincerity, you need to be communicating with our elected officials because they've heard it from every selectman in the state. They've heard it from the city councilors. And I'll just leave you with this little thought. It's called the New Hampshire admission. That's what they call it. All right. Now, I want you, everyone in this room, to think when you were opening that envelope that you got from the Tom War, the last tax bill you got. How did you like your advantage then? Because to the elderly, I got a sister in South Carolina. I mean, my family's 3/4 from the south, and this is true in Virginia and North Carolina. And she said to me, "What are you paying for taxes?" I said, "$6,000 on a $250,000 house." Well, sis, you're 70. What is the great state of South Carolina charging you with? $600. Listen, that's the deal. If you don't like the tax system, and I don't think there's anyone here that does, there's only one way to fix it. And I if you want to go to conquered, I'm good. [applause] Any article any other discussion regarding article six? I don't see anyone. Are you ready for the vote? All those in article in favor of article six as uh as written, raise your cards. [clears throat] All those against raise your cards. [clears throat] The article is passed. Article seven to see if the town will mod will vote to modify the disabled exemption from property tax in the town of water based on assessed value for qualified taxpayers to be $50,000. The exemption may be applied only to property which is occupied as the principal place of abode by the disabled person. The exemption may be applied to any land or buildings of operative to the residents or to manufactured housing that if that is the principal place of a vote and nothing in this section shall include a qualifying applicant from earning an income. The exemption applies to any person who is eligible under title two or title 16 of the federal social social security act for benefits to the disabled. To qualify, the applicant must have been a New Hampshire resident for at least five years, own the real estate individually or been a New Hampshire resident for at least five years, own the real estate individually or jointly, or if the real estate is owned by such a person's spouse, they must have been married for at least five consecutive years. In addition, the taxpayer must have a net income from all sources of not more than $28,700 for single or married, a combined net income of $36,700, and all assets not in excess of $50,000, excluding the value of the person's actual residence in a land upon which it is located up to 2 acres. RSN 72 col 73/BJ majority vote required. >> Some move. >> I have a motion by Larry. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Second by Dion Bon. Discussion or questions. Seeing no one with their hand up, I'm going to assume you're ready for the vote. All those in favor, raise your cards. Okay. All those opposed, raise your cars. It looks to me like it's overwhelming majority in favor. Article Lake. The seat of the town will vote to raise and appropriate 157,750 for the purpose of acquiring 27.49 for 49 acres of raw land to be added to the Palm Dory Town Forest and to authorize the select board to accept funds currently secured funding to people's 137,750 from grants and other donations to this project and June covered $10,000 for the town's town building purchase and repairs capital reserve fund and $10,000 for the act recreation revolving fund. if needed to meet the acquisition cost of 157750. Any grant or outside funds received will reduce the funds taken from the forest fund or recreation revolving fund. No tax rate impact. Majority vote required. Recommended by the board of selectman by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to nothing. >> So move. >> I have a move. Motion made by Bruce Larry to accept his Do I have a second? Seconded by Lee Carol. Discussions or questions. >> Saras Susan Dearis. I object to money being taken out of the revolving fund. The recreation department revolving fund was created for recreation department use only and as the term states revolving fund. They took they take the money in and it is used for that department. And I can remember when we created this fund and it was for rec department use only. And the other question is are we taking this land off the tax rules? We keep buying land. I don't know what it's all about. >> Someone wants to answer. >> Why don't you answer the record question? I'll answer the rest of it. [clears throat] [laughter] >> Um, thank you for that question, Sue. Peter Gagnet, town manager. The uh rec fund, you're correct, is focused directly for recreational spending through the rec department. We receive what some people would call a payment in lie of taxes. Um, AVH donates money or has donated money in the past and that money started eight 10 years ago and that account that the the line item and I don't want to get into the accounting voodoo here but that um fund that donation was put into the rec revolving fund so it could be held and used. So the money will not be coming out of recreation funds for the community. It comes out of a donation from AVH which is designed for recreational um and health um purposes. Part of the acquisition of this land is a drinking water uh protection and recreational use. So that would be an appropriate um allowed expenditure then. But you're you're correct to pick that up. It does. It's kind of a wonky thing where we put that line in the revolving fund, but it won't be rent funds for the community [clears throat] to the uh purchase of the land. Um, so if you think about the airport, which most of you have been to at one time or another, this uh sits on the east side of the airport and is between what is known as the drill and deck of the airport. There's um three solid reasons for the tenant to acquire this. First, it's in our our wellhead protection program. So, um, the acquisition protects the land from development and the two other things, it is the site of an existing snowmobile trail and could potentially be a a rroot site for the [clears throat] Pine Mountain Trail, which we've lost access to um due to the pit where the original trail head was um being used by private business. So the the last question was about taking it off the tax role. This is this land was in current use, which is to say it paid about $200 a year in timber, I'm sorry, $200 a year in current use taxation. Um on the thousand acres we purchased two years ago, we've um we've lost approximately $2,000 in taxes, but gained almost $160,000 in timber revenue. So, I've been accused of not caring about the town's money, but in my math, we're 158,000 to the good. And this parcel will protect our wellwater, which is why dees is giving us this money. [clears throat] And the town is is going to benefit from $137,000 um from conservation organizations in the Department of Environmental Services. So, and this was a good deal every way you look at it. Thank you. Any other questions or discussion? [clears throat] Are you ready for the vote? All those in favor, raise your cards. All those opposed, raise your cards. The article is passed. >> Mr. Moderator, I make a motion to combine articles 9 and 10 under one vote. >> Before you do this, Bruce, I would like to give you the results of that last >> That's fine. >> Okay. The results of article five are 194 yes and 124 no. So it looks like we were going to dual sessions. And before before I proceed to Bruce Larry's motion of why you're all here, I want you to join me in giving a great big thank you to our town clerk, to our tax collector, and to the supervisor of the checklist who worked as bones right their fingers to the bone on one tough election today to get it tried to get it done in a timely manner. >> [applause] >> Mr. Larry, >> I make a motion to combine articles 9 and 10 under one vote since they're both in and out money, no impact. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> I have a motion made and seconded to combine articles 9 and 10. Any discussion? >> [clears throat] >> Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All in favor of combining articles 9 and 10. Okay. Anyone opposed? Okay. Now, I will read both articles for the actual passing. Article nine, see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of 656,000. $36 for the operation of the sewer department. >> $36. >> Yes. 36,000 Bruce. This amount will be offset by user fees and sewer funds. It [clears throat] will not affect general taxation. Recommended by the board of selectment by a vote of 3 to zero. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to zero. Majority vote required. Article 10 to see if the town will vote to raise an appropriate sum of 618,625,000 for the operation of the water department. This amount will be offset by the use of fees and water funds. It will not affect general taxation recommended by the board of selectment by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to nothing. Majority vote required. Do I have a motion? >> So move. >> I have a motion by Mr. Miller. I have a motion by Le Carol to pass. Any discussion or questions? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All in favor, raise your cards. Any opposed? Raise your cards. The articles have passed significantly. Article 11 to see if the town will vote to raise appropriate the sum of 174,129 for the operation of the Gor public library. Tax rate impact 34 recommended by the board of selectman by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 7 to 0 to1. Majority vote required. >> So move. >> Motion by Bruce Larry. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> The second by Bronson. Any discussion or questions? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All those in favor, raise your cars. Any oppose? Your cards. The m the motion is article 11 is passed by a majority vote. Article 12 to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the budget committee's recommended amount of 5,538,962 for the general municipal operations. This article does not include special or individual articles addressed. Recommended by the board of selectman by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to nothing. Majority vote required. No motion. >> I have a motion by Bruce Larry to approve or I have a second. >> I have a second by Phil Cludia to approve. Discussion or questions. Seeing no hands raised, I will call Susan. I would just like to know under public safety, how much is that is spent on the police department? [clears throat] >> Uh, is there someone that would like to answer that? >> Hello, Ron Barry, director of finance administration. Um the budgeted amount for 2026 as approved by the budget committee and Boris segment is 950,43 950 comma43. Does that answer your question? Any other questions or discussion? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All those in favor of article 12, raise your cards. All those opposed to article 12, raise your cards. >> The article is passed unanimously. >> Mr. Monator, >> yes. >> I make a motion not to reconsider. >> That's not necessary. I'll second that. >> I have a motion not to reconsider and a second by Bruce Larry. >> Okay. Any questions on the vote not to reconsider? What that means is that it cannot be brought up at this meeting again. Okay. What >> this art? If we vote on it >> and it's passed, then someone else down the line, a voter can ask for reconsideration if they feel that they voted wrong. This motion will not allow that. So once it's passed tonight, that's it. All right. Any other questions regarding the motion to reconsider? Seeing none, can I ask for a vote on the motion to reconsider? Please raise your cards. >> Cannot reconsider. >> All right. All those opposed? Okay. I would say the majority has not to reconsider. So, article 13, the see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $10,000 for the purpose of supporting the 4th of July committee with the cost of fireworks for the 4th of July celebration. Tax rate impact 2 cents. Recommended by the board of selective by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 721. >> Some move. I have a motion by Bruce Larry to approve. >> I have a second by Lee Carol. >> Questions or discussion regarding the art? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All those all those in favor of article 13, please raise your hands. All those opposed article 14, please raise your comments. 13. The motion is pass a little. Okay. Article 14 to see if to see to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the amount of $80,000 for the purpose of highway and sidewalk asphalt repaving and curving projects. Tax rate impact 16 cents recommended by the board of selected by a vote of three to nothing. recommended by the budget committee by a vote of eighth. Majority vote required. >> So move. >> I have a motion Bruce Larry to accept. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> I have a second by Judy. Questions or discussions of article 14? Seeing none, I will call for vote. All those in favor of article 14, raise your cards. All those opposed to article 14 raise your comments. Okay. Until Okay. Majority H. The majority has it. The article is passed. Article 15 to see if the town will vote to raise appropriate the sum of $780,936 to be placed in the following capital reserve funds as previously established. Number one, $47,500 to be added on the fire Trump capital reserve fund balances of December 31st, 2025, $360,977.98 225,000 to be added to the World Resurfacing and Reconstruction Capital Reserve Fund balance of December 31st, 2025. 656,000 500 51149 $8,000 to be added to the SCBA capital reserve fund balance doubles of December 31st 2025 28,65481 45,000 to be added to the ambulance capital reserve fund balances of as of December 31st 2025 591,43926 $25,000 to be added to the police cruiser capital reserve pot balance as of December 31st 2025 50,161561.79 $18,800 to be added to the police equipment capital reserve fund $8,810 of this appropriation will come from fund balance from grant reimbursement. No tax impact rate impact balance as of December 31st, 2025, $11,733 $77324. Number seven, $13,000 to be added to the dispatch equipment capital procure fund. Balances as of December 31st, 2025, 83,875,52. Number eight, $52,818 to be added to town building purchase and repair capital reserve fund with set funds to come from December 31st, 2025 unassigned fund balance from an NBRC grant reimbursement. No tax rate impact should the town not have the available fund balance, the appropriation will not be made. balance of December 31st, 2025, $157,318.18. Number nine, $225,000 to be added to the Highway Heavy Equipment Capital Reserve Fund balance as of December 31st, 2025, $159,4340. Number 10, $33,500 to be added to the sanitation recycling capital reserve fund balance as of December 31st, 2025, $112,791.79. Number 11, $2,300 to be added to the Medallian Opera House Capital Reserve Fund with set funds to come from December 31st, 2025 unassigned fund balance. No tax rate impact balances on December 31st, 2025. $6,4386. Number 12, $70,000 to be added to the assessment capital reserve fund balance as of December 31st, 2025, $191,43,926. And number 13, $15,000, pardon me, to be added to the information technology capital reserve fund balance as of December 31st, 2025, 41,33.32 recommended by the board of select by a vote of three to nothing. We recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to nothing. Majority vote required. Tax rate impact a$140 revised by revised 211 2026. What are your wishes? What are what are your wishes? I have a motion by Phil for approval. Do I have a second? >> I have a second. Paul, sorry. >> It's been a long day. Okay. Any discussion or questions? Yes, sir. >> Uh item six uh is a there's either this print or uh something else, but uh it says 18818 to be added to the police equipment capital reserve fund. 8,818 of that comes from fund balance from grant reimbursements. no tax rate impact. How is that? Is $10,000 difference there? >> Thank you for the question. Um I know it was brought up previously in our public hearings. Um but uh you are correct. Only 8,818 of that appropriation is from a fund balance that we got from a grant reimbursement to our PD. The other 10,000 is our regular appropriation that is through taxation. It's only that 8,818 is uh no tax impact. Um and just as a quick comment myself, there were a couple misprints. Um number 10, the bounds uh for sanitation CRF had a year end balance of 73 370, not 112. Um number 12, the assessment CRF had a year end balance of 190 or had balance of 141,000. uh we accidentally transposed the um ambulance balance there and then the longevity uh severance trust fund had a year end balance of 22,000. >> Does that answer your question? >> Okay. Any other question or discussions? >> Okay. Yes. And number three, what is SCBA? >> SCBA is the self-contained breathing apparatus, the air packs that we wear. Any other questions or discussion? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All those in Wait, did I get a motion? >> Okay. [laughter] >> Thank you. >> All right. All those in favor, raise your cards. All those opposed. It looks like the eyes have. Motion is passed. >> [clears throat] >> Article 16 appro appropriations to expandable trust funds. The city and the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $193,600 $193,500 to be placed in the following expendable trust funds as previously established. $7,000 to be added in Kates's Hill landfall expandable trust fund balance as of December 31st, 2025, $13,262.95. Number two, 159,000 to be added to the river maintenance expandable trust fund with said funds to come from the unassigned fund balance. No tax rate impact balance of as of December 31st, 2025, $101,23.65. Number three, $20,000 to be added to the special insurance expandable trust fund. Balance as of December 31st, 2025, $6,8406. Number four, $7,600 to be added to the longevity severance dispensable trust fund balances of December 31st, 2025. $16,7724 recommended by the board of selectment by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended by the budget committee or a vote to 8 to nothing. Majority vote required. Tax rate impacts 0.07 cents. Do I have a motion? >> I have a motion by Mr. Larry. Do I have a second? I have a second by Phil Corn pass as recommended. Any discussion or questions? [clears throat] Suits, >> this question is kind of general, but we keep seeing unassigned fund balance. I'd like to know what the unassigned fund balance was at the end of the year and what the tax impact was on our last tax bill for that fund balance. >> [clears throat] >> Uh, thank you again for the question, Sue. Um, the unsigned fund balance, for instance, the 159 added to the river maintenance fund, that's FEMA money that the town clawed back from Uncle Sam. So that is uh money that we got. We we don't have a line item to like put that back in. This is not a revolving fund. So FEMA money reimbursement grants go into the general fund. And so we're pulling that back out to um go into the river maintenance fund because there's still more work to be done. Often we use that to match payments. Um, federal funding is anywhere from 25% match to a 50% match. Um, in terms of the [clears throat] current tax impact, our audit hasn't been completed yet for 2024. So, Bronson can't give you a perfectly accounting tax impact number that you're looking for. As a followup, the audit is planned to be completed in March, April, >> right? >> May now. So that's the best I can give you from that answer. What I'm saying is the unassigned fund balance has come up multiple times. Then they say no tax impact. Well, we had a tax impact last year that was quite major. And I just want to know how much money was left over and what the tax impact was on our last tax bill because this money isn't free. We paid for it last year. So I think if I and I'll defer to Bronson if I need to. Uh, in rough numbers, we had uh we spent the unassigned fund balance down to about what 700,000, which was a DRA minimum. >> Yeah. Oh, good. He's looking. So, we did use some of the unassigned fund balance to bring down the uh tax rate last year. Several hundreds of thousands of dollars. 400 approximately. [clears throat] >> Yeah. So we retained 700,000. >> We retained 700,000 >> and used 490,000. >> And used 490,000. So I was really,000 is what we had >> is what we used. >> We had a little bit over a million. We used 490,000 to lower the tax rate and we have the DRRA minimum basically which is Department of Revenue Administration um of 700,000 remaining. And what does the 400 [clears throat] equate to on last year's tax bill? >> Uh close to a dollar. >> A dollar. >> Yeah. It's about 500,000 per dollar. Yep. Thank you. Any other discussion regarding article 16? Any questions? Seeing none, I will call for the vote. All those in favor of article 16, raise your cards. All those opposed, raise your cards. The article was passed. [clears throat] Article 17 to see if the people of the town of Gorum do not support the Gorum Police Department entering into any 287g agreement with the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE and accordingly the people recommend that the department should withdraw from this agreement. This is by petition. It is um majority voters required and I have a uh petition for a secret ballot. It says here, "We the underside certify that we are registered voters in the town of Guang and are physically present at the annual town meeting on March 10th, 2026. We respectfully submit our request to the moderator that all votes related to article 17 the Gorm Police Department 287 agreement be taken by secret written down. I have uh Abby Ian, David Ian, Dorothy Borus, Christine Pico and Valerie Boyette as the petitioners. Abby Eval is the primary petitioner. Abby, would you like to speak? Abby is up in the back. You need a motion before you discuss. >> That would be correct. >> There is no motion on the floor. So, there's no discussion. >> All right. I need a motion. >> I have one for me. Do I have a second? >> I'll second. And I have a second. So the motion is open for discussion. I'm opening the floor app. Go ahead, Abby. My name is Abby Veno from Luke Road. I'm hoping people will vote yes on number 17 to recommend that the Gorum Police Department withdraw from its 287G agreement with Federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement, who we mostly know as ICE. To start with, I very much appreciate our friendly, hardworking police officers and their mission of providing a safe, peaceful community for the residents and visitors. Thank you. The concern here is that the 287G agreement pulls our local officers away from these local concerns and turns our officers into an extension at federal immigration enforcement. And we can see on the TV how that's going lately. Our police do not need a 287g agreement to arrest a suspect regardless of any immigration status questions. We've talked a lot about how many officers our police department needs and what their services cost our small town. Our local dollar should be spent on local safety, not lengthening the arm of federal immigration enforcement into our community. Um, what messages are we sending by being an extension of ICE? What message are we sending to the newest immigrants who have moved into Guam are running businesses and sending their children to our schools? If I had darker skin and an accent, I would not be feeling safe or welcome here. What message are we sending to the tourists we work so hard to attract? The Boston Globe ran a headline three months ago warning immigrants not to travel to Hampshire. There are multiple confirmed news reports of immigrants seized and imprisoned by 287G officers in New Hampshire despite valid papers. Let's keep Gorm's police focused locally. Please vote yes on number 17 recommending that our police department withdraw the agreement they entered into ICE without any community hearing. Thank you, >> Abby. Before I proceed to other uh discussion, I have been asked by members of the audience to please explain what a yes vote or no vote on this means. >> So this is purely a recommendation. Um state law states that it is up to the police chief to decide whether or not to enter into this agreement. So this is a purely what the people would like but it's up to the chief to decide. So a yes vote says please withdraw from this agreement. A no vote means stick with ICE. >> Does that make sense? >> Thank you. >> I'm I'm asking people to vote yes. >> All right. >> Other questions, discussion? Mr. Larry. down here. Good last time. Um, first of all, I'm not into this TDS because that's what it comes down to in my personal opinion. Second of all, I'm going to stand here and suggest that our police department pick and choose who they work side by side with as far as other law enforcement agencies. They're all enforcing the law one way or the other. And if you don't believe me, read the Cobra Chronicle. They've just got somebody DWI who happened to be an ille immigrant and there was some serious injury besides. And nobody's saying that they're running out to go on raids. Corum PD doesn't do that. Number one, unless they need assistance, such as from Berlin or Troop F, somebody in the area. So don't think we have to worry about any of our offices. Any of them here can correct me if I'm wrong. Are you running around purposely profiling people and picking somebody up? That's a request device. You got enough to do now except short manower, woman power. I think recommending this is just sending a clear message to the chief. You're going to do as we say, not the water if you should. >> Thank you. Any other discussion or questions? >> I'm just the officer Beverly Bus. We live on Palmer Street. I wouldn't call the police department if I was knocking on my door cuz I don't trust them. If ICE is knocking on my door, I would like to know I could trust my police to come for me, not for them. You see what I'm saying? It's if they're working with ICE, they're on the wrong side for regular people. what's been going on with innocent people. >> All right, let's let's talk back and forth. I have a gentleman in the back. >> I'm not a gentleman. Number one, Sarah Chestnut. >> Sarah Chestnut wore New Hampshire. Renee Good wasn't expecting to die that day. Alexi wasn't expecting to die that day. That little boy in the blue hat wasn't expecting not to go home that night. I am not expecting to be incarcerated for how I look, who I love, or how I worship. None of these people were expecting what happens to them. I am the child of a retired police officer and a Marine vet. That is not what we fought for. It is not what I stand for. And it's okay to enforce the law. Would you sit in this space and say that that is what is happening when ICE is knocking on doors? Maybe some of the time, but not most of the time. This is merely a suggestion to show how we feel and who we are. And you can disagree with that. But to say that we are being unlawful and even suggesting that is bogus. I am young. I am not dumb. I am a woman, but I am not silent. And [clears throat] MLK said that when you speak, when your voice shakes and you stand with no one's skin, that is what I am doing. I love this town. I'm not from here. I'm in Alabama, but I love it here and I love what it means to live here. And that is why I'm voting yes because no one expected these outcomes. Doesn't mean I'm flawless. doesn't mean I'm broke. It just means I'm human. [applause and cheering] >> I will vote no on this petition. It is not about ISIS action elsewhere. Just a week and a half ago, um, local police caught an illegal immigrant coming in over the border. I don't remember whether it was more recently or last summer, but the local police, Gorum, Berlin, and others saved 24 people that were being human traffked across the border, women and children. [clears throat] There was a a lady, the original lady who worked on the road crew going up to Kobo and saw a lot of our local police going up there and they were they were nervous. They weren't sure they'd come home alive that day, but they were to support us on our border so that we would not be having these human traffickers and drug traffickers coming to our communities. So I will vote no on this amendment. [applause] >> Other discussion. >> If you're worried about human trafficking, you do not want to work with ICE. They work for Trump and he's a evil, evil, horrible person. He has children. He lies. He's just a terrible person. >> Yeah. Let's sir I'm not I'm not around. >> Okay. Can Can we stick to the subject and I'll get it? >> So I'm going to vote. Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Anyone else? Mr. Miller. >> Thank you. Theodore Miller. Rachel Morren, a mother of five, raped and murdered. Grant Ronbec, 21 years old, shot and killed while working at a convenience store. Ivory Smith, 7 years old, killed in a car crash caused by a drunk driver. Stephanie Minton, 41 years old, stabbed to death at a bus stop. Alex Wise Jr., only 10 years old when he was struck and killed by a hit and run driver. Lincoln Riley, a 22year-old nursing student, killed while jogging on a college campus. And what do these people all have in common along with hundreds of others who have had their lives taken from them? They should still be alive. These people were killed. These folks were killed by people who were not supposed to be here. Their killers were people who came in who came here illegally. Along with hundreds of deaths, there are thousands of cases documented where Americans have been raped, drugged, assaulted, and harmed in other ways by illegals. >> For four very long years, our southern border was wide open. During that time, more than 11 million people came into this country illegally. US immigrations and customs enforcement has been given the job of finding and removing these millions of people, many of whom have been charged with violent crimes. >> All right. Well, no. No. You may hear me out. You heard other people say, "I will retain my right to speak. I will retain my right to speak." >> Okay. Ice. The people who work for life are heroes. >> Yes. They are the heroes with great risk. I am I deserve the right to speak. You don't like it, but you with great risk to themselves. They are making our communities and our countries safer by finding and deporting those people who chose to ignore our laws and to come into this country illegally. >> The people who work for ICE, the people who work for ICE, our local and state and federal law agencies must be allowed to work to death. This article 17 needs to be voted down. [applause] >> Just a minute. It seems to me the overwhelming reaction is they want to call for the vote. Can I get someone to give me a motion regarding if they call this cease discussion and vote? Are we going to do a single? >> I have a motion. Go. Yes. I have a motion made and seconded to cease discussion and call for the vote. All those in favor of calling for the vote, raise your comments. All those opposed to calling for the vote, raise your comments. Okay, here's the way we're going to do this. This is a secret battle. The box is on the end of the table. I am going to call various areas of the gym to come down in vote. The ballot box will be open for an hour. At the end of our 1:00 time is >> 9:09. >> 9:09 right now. In an hour voting will cease and the ballots will be counted. So I'm going to start with the left side bleaches first. Come down and vote. All right, it looks like everybody on the left side bleaches. Those in the right side bleaches better. Okay, those on the left side of the bad leeches of the vote. Okay. Those at the right side of the back. You know what? You never know if people are going to want to have a secret outlet. So, you have to be prepared. >> Center side the back street. Oh yeah. Okay. Left side of the gym. Amazing. >> What are you? >> No. Good job, Paul. >> Hang in there. There's only an hour left. >> [laughter] >> Okay. The right hand side of the gym, please walk. You sure? It's green. How are you? What we have today? Okay, looks like most people have voted. So, we're going to continue on. I will leave the polls open for a while and then I will call on you if you want me to close it. All right. Article 18. Let's see. Is everyone ready? >> Someone's got their hand up back there. traffic. >> Yes. >> 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 >> Wait a second. >> Okay. I have a motion made to combine articles 18, 19, 20, and 21. Is that what you said? >> 18 or 24. >> I can't hear you. >> All the way to >> 22 23 24 >> all the way up to 24. I have a motion to combine all those large. >> Do I can I have your name? Who made the motion? streaming. >> Do I have a second? [laughter] [laughter] >> I have a motion to combine articles 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24. The vote I'm going to ask for is just to combine those articles. All in favor of combining >> articles 18 through 24, raise your cards. >> Can there be discussion first? >> No, pass. Discussion. Okay. The article. All I said all those in favor. All those opposed. It looks like the eyes have I have a question from Mr. Bronson. >> I thought we got after the motions. I thought we were supposed to discuss the motion and then >> this is just to combine. We're going to go back to reading motions and that's where we'll have the discussion. >> Okay. The motion is just to combine. >> They combine into one vote. However, he has to read each one of them >> and then open each one of them up for >> Mr. Seven after. Does they still have to count? >> Yeah, I'm going to leave it open for 15 20 more minutes to see where we are and then I will ask the board the body for guidance on it. Okay. All right. Let me read read the articles. Articles 17. Now we have >> 18 >> to see if the town will vote to raise an appropriate sum of $14,000 for the purpose of supporting the residents of Gorum will require professional home care support as provided by the Andrew Valley Home Care Services. Tax rate impact 3 cents by petition recommended by the board of selectton by a vote of three to nothing. not recommended by the budget committee by a vote of four to four. Majority vote required. As you can see, the budget committee was deadlocked. So when they deadlock like that, a tie turns into a no. Article 19 to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $6,745 for the operation of our following Tri County Community Action Program Incorporated. services in the town of War are fuel and energy assistance, housing stability services, transportation services, weatherization, guardianship services, community action resource coordinators, free diaper distribution program, USDA TAP food distribution expansions, 20 211 homeless call response, Tamwork Dental Center, the ADRC agent and disability resource center, and senior meals Tax rate impact 1 cent I petition recommended by the board of selectner by a vote of three to nothing recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 5 to three majority vote required. Article 20 to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $6,000 for the purpose of supporting the ongoing public service of the Gish Royal Society, the museum and their work to protect and preserve the history of corn. Tax rate impact 1 cent by petition. Not recommended by the board of selecting by a vote of two to one. Not recommended by the budget committee. I vote eight. Majority vote required. Article 21. See if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $3,000 for the purpose of supporting Northern Human Services. the mental health center in providing outpatient and emergency mental health services for the citizens of Gore. Catch rate impact 1 cent by petition recommended by the board of select bank by a vote of three to nothing. Recommended not recommended by the committee by a vote of four to four. Majority vote required to see if the town will vote to raise and appropriate the sum of $2,000 for the purpose of supporting our lo our local Special Olympics team and Chicago River athletes tax rate 1 cent by petition recommended by the board selected by a vote of three to nothing recommended by the budget committee by a vote of 8 to nothing. Majority vote required. Article 23, the seat of the town will raise appropriate the sum of $3,000 for the purpose of marketing our average marketing our average chamber of commerce marketing plan tax rate impact 1 cent by petition recommended by the board of selectman by a vote of three to nothing recommended by the budget committee and by a vote of 6 to2 majority vote required to see if the town will vote to raise an appropriate the sum of $5,000 for the purpose of supporting hospice, palitative, home health, and long-term care services from North Country Home Health Service, home health and hospice agency for the residents of the town tax rate one sent by petition recommended by the board of selectment by a vote of three to nothing. Not recommended by the budget committee by a vote of five to three. Before I entertain a motion, it looks like we're getting to the end. I'm going to ask if you give me approval to is everyone has voted on article >> 17 to close the balloting for article 17 so the clerks and town clerks can begin counting. Second. >> Okay. All those in favor of closing the voting. All right. We're going to close the voting and the balance. Now, I will entertain a motion of information on these. >> Go ahead. >> Since they are to be combined, you need a motion to either pass. >> Am I not mistaken? the new law that you stated by petition that each one of the petitioners have an opportunity to speak for 10 minutes. >> Yes, they do. >> That would be the next 80 to 90 minutes. We're going to be listening to people before we get even >> if they wish to speak. >> If they do >> okaying does not move. >> All right. So, but before I can begin the discussion, I need a motion to pass. >> No. >> Okay. Then I'll go to article number 17. 18. >> 18. >> Is the petitioner for article 18 here? And do they wish to speak? >> I don't think you have a motion yet. You just had a motion to comply. >> That's what I thought. >> All right, let's go back. You guys confused me a little bit. does have an introduction. >> All right. Once we stop that, I I have to open it up to the petitions speak for 10 minutes. So, do I have a motion to accept? Motion to move all the articles as presented. That's exactly what I want. Do I have a second? >> Second by Lee. All those in in favor of moving the articles as accepted, raise your comments. All those opposed. Raise your Okay. Now I can grant the I have to grant the right each petitioner to speak on each pass that >> didn't we just pass? >> No, I still have to give them the right to speak. >> Well, but it's already passed. >> You just you just took the accept. >> They don't get to talk. >> They didn't accept that. Yeah, that's why I was trying to tell you. You need to get first before you do anything >> discussion before you pass. >> All right, we passed it. >> It's done. That's it. [laughter] >> Article 25. See if the town will adopt the provisions of RSA 7262 for exemption from property tax purposes from the assessed value of real estate equipped with one or more solar energy systems for the purpose of heating cooling providing electricity which exemption shall be 100% of the assessed value of the solar energy system required. Do I have a motion? So move. >> I have a motion by Ed Gibson. Do I have a second? [clears throat] >> Second by Judy Young. >> What's your name? >> At this time of the night, I'm beginning to want to find it. [laughter] >> Okay. All right. So, we've got a motion to accept. Any discussion or questions? >> The 10 minute introduction. >> They get 10 minutes for the commission to introduce Mike petitioner has 10 minutes. >> Well, yeah, they do. If they wanted um but I'll be a lot quicker than that. So, two years ago, I voted against this. Um advocated everyone else do the same. And um and what you need to know is that the board of selectment had a meeting a few weeks ago um voted to support it and and they need you to know why uh we're vote we're voting why the select board voted to support article 25 even though two years ago we were opposed to it. So, uh, what wasn't discussed two years ago and why the board, um, was very comfortable on opposing this was that our assessor at the time, which was KRT, was not picking up residential solar. And so to our way of thinking, um, the only things we would really have to worry about is if someone came in with a truly substantial solar array at their residence, meaning, you know, like a $1,500,000 um, application. So what has happened since then is the department of revenue administration um was made aware that the town of New H IPS which um was was asking for an order from them was basically a lawsuit against the city of Manchester and Peter Pearl because they like Corum weren't picking up residential solar and and the DRRA issued an order that required every assessor in the state of New Hampshire from the moment the order was issued to wherever to list all solar arrays and establish a value there too. Now there's a problem with this and we talk about the state. So, it's understandable why the DRRA would make such a ruling um because if you read through their rules of procedures, they want pretty much everything that's found in real estate recording. But there's another thing that um the slideman have to deal with that the DRA sometimes overlooks. The value on your car for your house when adjusted to 100%. Should be what it will sell. The end. The problem that we have now is that the DRRA while they made their order, they didn't offer what what the assessors of record for us today, which is Monica Hurley from Northwood, who has put a value of $1,500 a panel and added to the various properties that have them or Sans Susi Associates, who we call discussed at length, um allowed that without sufficient sales data, you really have no idea whether you're adding value to the house or not. So, you have a situation right now with a selectman um just to make up a property. Let's say you have a property that's on the card for $300,000 and they have enough to add $45,000 to it. So the question to be answered is the house going to sell for $345,000 or $300,000 and the answer to that from the uh basically KRT's behavior and two assessors who were talked to directly was it's going to be really hard to defend because there's no sales team. So is the recommendation of our board of selectment not because we're supporting subsidized electrical power but because we're going to spend a lot of money down at the BTLA um and we know before we even go that we haven't really got the data to back us up. So until such time as there's enough sales data to actually justify what I just said that when you add solar to the value of a residence that that residence would then sell for the card value plus the solar value the best thing the town of Warm can do is simply exempt them um stay out of court and and and it's it's the most just outcome based on where we So that's why that's why we changed our opinion and um you're not going to gain anything out of this. Uh if you vote it down, you know, [clears throat] the values will go on the cards. People will appeal the cards. Town will have to pay interest and penalties if we can't prove it. We're telling you our assessors don't advise us to do that. There are 152 towns in New Hampshire right now that have this exception and there'll probably be more after tonight. Thank you. Other questions or discussion regarding the honorable question from that street. So the question is those articles that we just passed eight of them all at once whatever. What happens to the ones where like the select men two to one even though the budget committee was 8 to nothing? Was that passed or not passed? >> Well passed. You over overruled their recommendations. So, >> so by rounding all those up together, you just blew off a historical society. >> Yes. >> They were they were >> okay. Even though it was against, everybody voted against >> it doesn't matter. This is the body. This is the body that you voted yes. You voted give them that money. >> Cool. That's what I wanted to know. >> Yes. >> I just wanted to point out that solar panels are you can get about 100 watt panels for $100 for housing. So $1,500 per panel is kind of ridiculous. And uh not only that, but the amount of electricity you're going to get, the taxes on the panels would just about wipe out any benefit you you get as far as electrical savings. That's all I wanted to say. Any other discussion questions >> over there? Bradford again. Um, I know that some people have put solar panels on their houses and they've had to take out like a 30-year mortgage to pay for it and they've also paid a mortgage on their house. So, by saying we're going to assess them for what they've added to their roof or wherever, kind of like double taxation, I don't feel that it's fair. If someone has the wherewithal to switch to solar energy to save money, why should we punish them for doing that? They are by using solar energy, they're either adding to the electricity pool for the rest of us because [snorts] the demand isn't so high so our rates don't go up or they're at least benefiting their house and and not um not hurting us. So why should you be punished for trying to take out this huge loan and pay it so that you can be self-sufficient with your electricity? >> It doesn't make any sense. to punish people who have used >> over exemption. Correct. >> Other discussion or questions? [clears throat] >> You want to speak? >> Okay. [clears throat] Um, I'm going to echo Mike's comment. Um, and just that from the board's perspective, the town's perspective, we're not really taking a side in terms of pro solar or not, it's just the the nuts and bolts of trying [clears throat] to assess a value. And that was a great point. 1,500 a panel. Another town says they're 500. Uh, people might have bought them at T-Mo for 50 bucks a piece. Who knows? And all it does is generate work for the town because people come in with an abatement and then they'll say two of my solar panels don't work. I read squirrels to six more of them and and they don't work and now I I want abatement and then there really is no proof in the BTLA uh Bureau of Tax Land, you know, court. They've admitted there isn't solid sales data. It's it's almost like an above ground pool where does that add value or not? There are some people who hate the look of it. They love the house, but they don't want this contraption on there, have to replace a new roof because the solar panels died. And so it's it's very complicated. And the other thing is many of you might have been approached the new way is leasing. So you might lease for 20 years. So now you have something on your house that you're leasing and then we're going to put it on as a added value. Oh no, no, no. It's a lease. It's different. I have So nuts and bolts. I'm just trying to make this work. It was a nice intention, but the board, the town does not and personally myself does not think this is a really practical u um idea and I would support you um adopting this exemption. So on your property card, it's going to say if your house is a $200,000 house, if you have 200 if you have $20,000 in solar array, that might go on there, but it won't go on as taxable. It won't go on as taxable. So it'll be noted because that's the law, but as far as your taxable value, that would be not included. Thank you. Other questions or discussion? Seeing none, are you ready for the vote? >> All those in favor Article 25, raise your hands. All those opposed, raise your hands. article 25 has passed. [clears throat] >> Okay. Article 17, the final vote count is 75 no, 99 yes. The article is passed. All >> [applause] >> right. Article 26 to hear any reports of incount offices, agents and committees here to fall chosen and to pass any votes related there too. Any reports or anything anybody wants to hear? Article 27. Can I have a motion regarding 26? >> Motion for Boston >> for 26. >> 26. >> Motion to approve. >> Have a motion to approve number 26. You are the second. >> Second from Lee. All those in favor? Hey. Article 27 to transact any other business that may legally come before the meeting. >> I make a motion to adjourn. >> I have a meeting. A motion to meet. I have a motion to adjourn the meeting. Do I have a second? >> All kinds of seconds. >> All those in favor adjournment. >> Have a good night. Thank you for coming. Thank you for your interest. And we see you all next