Epping School Board Meeting 08/06/2026
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highlighted it in yellow. That would be super helpful. Other people do that. >> Are you able to get Rob? >> If you if you highlighted it in yellow just so I could see you put the section. >> Let's do that. That way she can have everything. >> No, it just gave me this section. >> Okay, we're just going to give a second. I just got to find the link that you sent out. Log into it. >> Good evening and welcome to the school board meeting for August 6th at the Eping Elementary Media Center. Would you please all rise for the pledge of allegiance? I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. We have a packed agenda this evening. Uh we will have um Miss Oday on shortly via Google Meet as she uh unfortunately is sick. But we're not going to let that slow us down. I'm open for any public comment. And seeing no public in the audience this evening, I'll close public comment and we'll jump right into our scheduled topics this evening unless anybody has any reason we need to defer. No. Okay. So, let's start with the 26 27 employee handbook approval. So, I'm sharing a document uh that I was working off of with you all um I didn't just share I just see I I figure it was sort of more directed at you because you employ me and uh Sam have done the work on on this one. So, um, do you want me to just go through it you or I'll give you some I'll give you the quick like clip notes but >> we've always done absolutely give us the notes uh afterwards. >> I just gave it to you now if you want to follow along. >> Um, so and I reference it so you can just follow along and then if you want it. Uh, so it says support staff tutoring for a day and it says no support staff employee may receive pay blah blah blah. But it says this policy does not apply to homebound instruction and there's no policy reference. So if we actually have a policy, we should probably reference it. If we don't, we shouldn't call it a policy. We should call it a practice. >> Perfect. >> Okay. Did you guys all get it? >> Yes. >> Okay. Page 32. Um, teaching staff shall report to work pro this in in most cases the staff members expected to report to work at least 15 minutes before. Didn't we determine that your staff they just have to work a certain amount of in their contract and Ben you might remember this says that they have to work an additional hour or hour and 15 minutes a day. So it's they don't actually have to be in work before 15 15 minutes before you >> I will double check but you're absolutely right at the last contract negotiations with the teachers contract. So again, we're not necessarily talking about the paracos. >> It says teaching staff. >> We had the 15 minutes and then 30 minutes as well. And so there was some language change there that will definitely align. >> Yeah, I just think it needs to be because I couldn't remember exactly, but I know we talked about it. Um, so stop me if anybody needs page 43, transportation. We did not reference anywhere in the school van, and I think we should probably reference like what's required to drive it. like it should be part of the employee handbook if employees are going to drive. >> Great addition. Yeah. >> Um page 50. So page 50 for pair of professionals, it says um employees are requested to notify school principal or supervisor as soon as jury witness duty is known. Proof of notice. However, the same section um it says employees for teachers and it talks about jury duty. Employees are eligible for paid time off. So, do we pay paras for jury duty? >> At this point, we do not. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, then I guess that's accurate. I was going to say if it if it's not, >> it's not a time work >> because it's a difference between hourly and salary. >> Correct. >> So, that it is a different benefit. >> Gotcha. >> compensation for that. >> Um, page 61, it says September 187 meeting. This is on our schoolboard meetings. It actually should be September 17th. >> Legal. Yeah. And then in July it says July 16th and I referenced the calendar. It should say July 15th. Um this was just more of a comment. Letters of reference it's recognized that requesting level levels letters of reference of employment is common due to liability. Only school administration are permitted to use school or district letter head. I know this sounds dumb but um this to me this seems a little outdated. Uh, I'm not going to argue this, but I feel like staff are probably using let So, you have a teacher here who's worked with somebody for 10 years and they write a Sure, I know they can write it anyways, but like they can't put it on letterhead. Like they can't they're an like a wellrespected employee. I get it. It's liability, but I I feel like that's an outdated practice. That's contrary to the guidance that we have given only in so far as um the letter head when you write a letter on behalf of a peer you are considered acting as an agent of the district and that's why it's considered not >> something we should do and that's we even put that in our our directions for how to use letterhead. Now we have come with some workarounds like uh you know you can say you know the letterhead there's different versions of the letterhead. There might be one from the school counseling office or the science department. I've seen that as a workaround but typically the whatever the district or school letterhead is is reserved for that. I don't disagree with you. I just know that's the guidance. the only like district recommendations would go on letterhead >> a guidance counselor >> was to get a letter of reference it might not go on letterhead >> I don't know >> it's just a practice as I mean we have access to letterhead to use and if I'm somebody who's worked at exit and writing it for my colleague who's been my colleague for 15 years >> I think I think the dilemma >> is that let's just say there's a scenario, this never happens, but let's say it does, >> where a colleague writes a letter of reference and they put it on letterhead and let's just say the principal or superintendent, whoever has a differing opinion of of that colleague. When it's on letterhead and whatever receiving school is seeing that, >> they then automatically make make the assumption this is the the feeling of I get that it's signed by the employee at the bottom, right? But they are representing the organization at that point, not the individual personal opinion. >> And that's where I think that this conversation is very valid. Yeah. Around, okay, should we allow that letterhead use or not? >> And I don't Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't I mean I'm not I'm not it's not a hill I'm going to die on, but I just think it's outdated. And I'll be honest with you, I probably people are probably doing it anyway. >> Yeah. probably an asset. I could just not fully understand, but every company I've ever worked for, financial institutions, like I've had access to the letter head like they give us boxes of paper with the credit letter head on it for letterhead on it. I could I could anything on this >> and in this digital world, Julie's absolutely right, they they they could they >> and they probably do and I I just I it just it just struck me and I just wanted to bring it up. >> Yep. >> Um >> there's an additional piece as a manager. Um >> is it a personal >> it can put us at a disadvantage if we are unaware that an employee is looking. Uh that just probably bears in mind that we should know that because we should really never be surprised if we can afford it. >> Yeah. Anyway, just want to bring it up. >> No. >> Uh page 63, uh the board recognizes use of cellular telephones. Uh at the very end of the um paragraph, it says to this end, the board authorizes the purchase and employee use of such devices. We as a practice do not purchase cell phones. >> Uh we actually have a couple um okay of our older custodian staff that are using purchased instead of the reimbursement they can use that. So it does it's very limited at this point. >> I mean moving forward do would we purchase a phone for somebody? >> Uh probably not. No. I I I think we just might want to take a look at that because I don't think the practice is so if you bring a new administrator in and say they say I'm not using my personal cell phone. I would like you to I mean >> then we would actually >> you would with the legality of it and and in that exact same scenario if one of my principles came to me and said that exact same thing I we use this. Okay. I I communicate with them. they communicate with me and if they want to keep the two very separate >> then we would offer that to them and that is actually legal advice as well that if they wish to carry two cell phones that's up to them we would purchase one >> support of our teaching staff too I've been in places where uh you can't require a teacher use their personal cell phon that would be another reason >> yeah one school we had we had bought cell phones >> for people going on field trips >> sure things like that >> yeah I didn't realize we had Yeah, we haven't run into any of those. You know, they all have our numbers. Good, better, or indifferent, I suppose. >> Um, the next one, this just a This one is a error. Sharing phone numbers with students. Do not provide cell phone numbers to students with a and it just says question mark. >> Yeah, we'll fix that. >> Page 64. This was referencing power school. Um, it says under number one, parents, guardians of each student will receive an introductory letter mailed to the residents of record. included will be one username. Is that something we do? Is that a practice we do? >> Who receives the letter? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. >> It's um it's referencing power school guidelines. Parents, guardians, students, school staff, partners, blah blah blah. Um and it says ultimately it's about all of us taking responsibility. The following guidelines apply access information. So to access P school, it says parents, guardians of each student will receive an introductory letter mailed to the residents of record. >> I don't think it's a practice we do anymore. So >> they do everything. They might just take out mail. >> Yeah. Again, >> electronic now. >> Yeah. I'm just trying to This I'm sure used to be a accurate. >> Um and then it and then also at the bottom of that same area, it says usernames and passwords will be provided by mail, not in person or by phone or email. It's probably not accurate. >> We'll correct that reference. >> So there's a whole section. It's kind of old school. that references breaking bad news. It seems a bit outdated and it's talk it's for teachers and staff and it talks about how to break bad news. It's taken from a book um from that was written in 2002 and updated in 2008. But just one of the things it says is it's talking about how to break bad news, but it number four says don't personalize the episode. It's not about a bad student or a bad parent. It's bad news. And I'm not sure that's relevant anymore. I'm not sure we are saying that to parents like I don't even know if we even really talk about bad news. We as a as a as a theme. We talk about circumstances, consequences, behaviors. I don't think because this is directed at your employees, not your not your I don't think Chrisone you're going to call me and say, "I have bad news." You're gonna say, "I have something to discuss with you, a situation." I don't think that this just kind of an old I would just ask you to maybe take a look at it and see if it's still relevant. There's more there's more from that book too about how to deliver good news. >> The spirit of it is probably to do it speak professionally. Right. >> Right. There's some good things in there but they just kept keeps referencing breaking bad news and I just don't think that's something we think that's how we frame things now. Uh and that's all I had. So for the employee, >> thank you Paul. Very good. And again, gold star, >> you know, this happens when you get the summer off. Yeah. >> Have time to read handbooks. >> Did any Did anybody else have any other feedback on the employee handbook? >> I don't have feedback on the handbook, but Robin is very sick and needs not to be. >> She is not going to be joining us. Okay. Good for her. Good for her. >> Julie, I think you knocked it out of park when going through. >> I appreciate you being so thorough. >> No problem. It was fun. >> Not hearing. No other questions. >> Uh, can I get a motion to approve the 2627 employee handbook with uh amendments? >> Um, so moved. >> I moved by Julie, second by Matt. All those in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> I pass this four zero. All right. Got the first one done. All right. Uh substitute handbook. >> The only change I had was on page two. It's still it references Susan Galtter. I just think we need to update that when we >> That's the only That's the uh you you already addressed the cell phone um electronic which references the purchase of a cell phone which sounds like we may or may do. So that's all I had. >> Anybody else have anything for the substitute handbook? >> Hearing no other changes to the handbook to the substitute handbook. Can I get a motion to approve the 2627 substitute handbook? >> So moved. Moved by Julie. Second. Second by Courtney. >> All those in favor say I. >> Any oppose? Oh, that passes 40. All right. Uh, let's see. Uh, the EMHs student and parent handbook. >> Okay, let me open that. >> So, I I I'm going to echo the thank yous uh the having that those pieces and and Julie got hers to me. I was able to look at this morning and already make some other changes. So um I will start with sort of what we identified as the changes just to bring it to everybody's attention and then I can speak to some of the pieces here. I have the commenting uh commenting page. Uh so if we took a look um obviously we refreshed the principles welcome letter. Um what you'll see uh the next uh highlighted item talks about changing out old calendars and schedules. Julie also brought that uh in her proposed changes comment section. Um that um that requires an explanation. What is in the current draft of the handbook that was created before a lot of us were sitting the seats are actually images. Uh and so all of our updated schedules uh yearly schedule the ad schedule are complete. Um but it's a formatting piece that we have to just migrate them in. Um, so what is there will we will take the place of, but we want to change the format so that it's not always uh >> it's gonna be like a nice spreadsheet. >> So uh that that that thank you for bringing that forward. Um but I think it did require uh an explanation. So thank you. Um I will bring attention to um what is currently again page numbers will also fall into that. So once we've moved through tonight, page numbers would all have to change. So there'll be a lot of discrepancies in page numbers that are identified, but this one speaks to page 19. And um one of the the big changes what used to be called the athletics handbook is the co-curricular hand that includes athletics, clubs, and activities. Uh and while the current draft is uh 2526 which is located in the handbook um my intention is to have uh the updated draft which Mr. Goldsac and uh has worked through with students our administrators and had the parent advisory council have a look at as well. So we are proposing that that uh be reviewed with you at our August waiting. So, I thought the best course of action is leave the one that's already been adopted for now until we've had a chance to review the other. Did not think it'd be appropriate to put something that hasn't been reviewed and and shared with you all before we did that. So, I will ask uh Chris as well to follow the same process and get that seven to 10 days out so that you have an opportunity to reflect some of your questions. We looked at page 20 talks about um an honors option um piece that uh should plagiarism um occur for a second offense. uh for students found uh found to be a violation of the plagiarism policy that they would lose their um honors uh designation course. Um, I I will say personally I was comfortable with that. And so we got to a place where that sort of second offense for plagiarism would would would make you not eligible for that honors option. And and that works for honors option because you're still within the same course. It's not a separate honors course. Um, so that's students who might be in a social studies class that is, you know, heterogeneously grouped but are applying for the honors option. Would this be a place where we'd want to reference because it's plagiarism in other policies when it comes to disciplinary? I'm wary that we're going to have discrepancies amongst plagiarism policies throughout. Is it better to reference the policy here and call that one out? >> It absolutely makes sense. and um the plagiarism uh piece get to work on the policy committee that is I believe in the final read and ready for you. So, um, that would be reflected here. The the policy which we didn't have before which you'll review and act on. I I believe if you haven't already done so, I think it's it's on might be tonight. I don't know. That's a pretty long list. But yes, so Matt, if I'm hearing correctly, um I'm going to comment here that we want to reference the most uh up to-date iteration of the play driven policy here in this section. >> Yeah. My fear is if we just keep wording it differently in each policy that eventually we're going to have seven things that contradict each other. >> Agreed. So I've made that note. uh the same would apply to the artificial intell intelligence and change policy. Those are just reflective of the policy language which uh existed in different ways, shapes and forms. What was currently page 32 and 33, it talks about the u back to self cellular devices. And this is reflective of um you know last year we went through our first year of a new state mandate uh for cellular phones. One of the pieces that we sort of took a lot of feedback on and discussed internally is trying to figure out sort of more restorative pieces. Uh the one of the escalated consequences was an automatic Saturday detention. we weren't really seeing that that was changing the behavior. So, um there'll be there's some other pieces in there as you know more restorative forfeite of the phone or checking in the phone for two weeks. Of course, anytime we can get parents on board who likely bought and own the phones uh to help us restore the practices, we appreciate that as well. Um but it also ties into other privileges, i.e. if you're in not good behavioral standing, you may not have your parking pass. you may not have your junior or senior privileges. So that's certainly more restorative and that seems to be a place where um kids get the message is one of the places that we focused on and appreciate the feedback. Next piece four just talking about made some subtle changes to the student attire. Um a lot of schools call it dress code. If I brought us back years to why we've why we've used the language the way we have it's uh to do that and the subtle change was uh it was a student will be asked to change or remove clothing said we changed it to say we will be asked to remediate the problem. Um so there were some of those uh substantive changes. I looked at that and I said I think we need to change that. So, but I am proud of the >> and and we changed it to student attire uh as opposed to we were calling it semi-professional attire. Um and so that was that was confusing to kids. Um but we were more specific on you know things like flip-flops or things that glorify violence, drugs and alcohol. So not a lot there. Um um good point here. There was some remote day attendance language which did not exist. Um and Julie, thank you. Um >> was am I was I it wasn't there. >> It was not >> okay. I was like I can't find it. >> So what I proposed here was to we took the language from our remote learning days. Yep. >> And I entered it in the section uh that uh speaks to how inclement weather and those things are called and where you can find that information. And then that section that It's page 13, uh, which I highlighted in in your version of the draft. Took it right from our consistent language, uh, when we start sending out our our remote day information. I had a thought that it might also be good to link it in the um the student attendance section. I I went back and forth on whether that'd be too redundant or not. So, I I did not do that, but I certainly can go back. That was a really good That was a great catch. I appreciate that. Um, lastly, there's some language around uh media specialists and uh any policy links that were sort of updated. And then I want to get to some specifics that were raised by you all and again, appreciate that ahead of time. Um, I alluded to it before we went on the air, but uh like that 26 27 EMHs schedule which is in your schoolboard overview uh thing if you want to take a look at that. Now, I was also hesitant to go ahead and put that in. Aside from the formatting issues, we've not reviewed together that iteration. I thought that would put you at a disadvantage as well. So, I went ahead and and uh and linked that in there. As you know, we went through a lot of work. So, that's on the schoolboard overview and comment page uh that accompanied this where I asked to put your comments. And so, you'll see it in there. It says under notes from July 26 27 NHS schedule high school schedule remain largely the same. You'll see the middle school schedule spelled out there. I had realized we had not closed the loop together on that after all that work. >> So if I we're looking at I'm looking at the Eping Middle High School student parenting book. Uh I'm looking at the middle school schedule. So, if I'm reading this correctly, there is a there's a um drastic change in Am I right? There's >> there's drastic changes in the entire grade six. >> This is I'm I'm pleased. This is great news. >> But but I also recognized you hadn't seen that before and I was hesitant to put it in the handbook like a Trojan horse without putting it somewhere else. >> I mean, well, we've talked about it. It's been discussed and I think it it was nec it's necessary that middle schoolers sitting for 80 minutes for one period is just not the best practice. >> Oh, Chris heard your the team heard your your >> I mean I think lots of it's not just their own concerns and then administration curriculum coordinator help coordinate the whole process and so they this is when the team works really well together and I >> and this was a year-long process. We had help with our NMS consultants and we we were able to as best we could, you know, with the ramifications of teaching, you know, multiple sections across the building. We we stuck to our tenants of what's best for kids, which was uh there's a willingness to have shorter blocks, but middle school specific teachers felt like seeing students every day uh was more beneficial. Uh we made great efforts to make sure that any interventions occurred outside of a time where students have to make a choice with a band, a chorus, uh or any of the unified arts classes. There will still in some cases be conflicts depending on the level of services kids need. But we've made great strides to eliminate that while also leaving open the possibility or the the the responsibility to learn when ready. So there are blocks of time especially in eighth grade where if a student is taking algebra Spanish or in some of the uh younger grades if they're advanced in other ways there's flexibility within that schedule to be able to do that. >> So uh the school day starts at 9:25 on this schedule. >> That's your delayed open schedule. >> Oh. Oh. So I guess I'm I guess I'm wondering I would love to see it. Should do I have to need to click on a is there a >> So if you look on the page I put it right in under your comment where it says schoolboard overview I I linked >> the schedule. It'll say 267 EMHs schedule version 3.0. >> Gotcha. Because uh I was that's great. No, I think that's um >> Can I ask a question just because I wasn't here? Are you done? Julian? >> Yeah, I'm done. Yes. Thank you. >> Um just because I wasn't part of these discussions. ever talk about changing high school schedule or No. >> So, none of these were directives. They were great conversations that um not yet. Um and um there's there's a lot of questions to it. And I think if we wanted to make that a topic, I think it's important especially in a school a middle high school with shared staff to walk through. And I think tonight it would it's probably not best for tonight, but I would be happy to sort of walk either individually through it before we attack the schedule. It's like understanding what are the non-negotiables. >> Yeah, I ask um because I spent a lot of time and they've been a lot and as soon as they see the middle school schedule change, they're likely to be more vocal about it. So, I'm just curious if that was something that was coming discussion or not or what. >> I think it I think it should be a discussion including kids, including parents. I'm not a proponent of block scheduling. Um, I think it's a long time for high school kids, too. However, you know, that's not my that's not my fight right now. However, I would support a >> an exploration. >> Yes. So I will say in the exit we um are reviewing a new schedule um and there was a whole there was a committee put together and it's been a year-long process not to be implemented this year but in it so it's it's almost a two-year process which seems kind of ridiculous but to get everybody's input and then so we have the input I don't even know what it is but we have the input but so then I think this year we're going to look at logistically how to actually make it happen. So they they interviewed other schools, they interviewed kids, they they spent a lot of time for it and now they have to plan for it. How is it how is it going to roll out? And I think while it's and it's way overdue for us. Um I just think that looking at other high schools that are similar in size that I know we have SST is a huge um component in our schedule. Um, but I think it's worth looking at and we may end up with the same schedule. It may the best answer might still be block scheduling for our district or there may be other ways to do it. >> So, in a nutshell, I I agree and I think we are just so folks are aware we are continually sort of studying and revising. Just uh so this I'm entering my fifth year and the first thing Bill said the summer before I started was the first task that you need to do is get together with the staff and figure out the schedule. So once we sort of did that with all the constraints um we pledged and our middle school staff sort of I think the grades six through eight that was the time when the school was transitioning um to one the one school model they uh made some concessions that um over time and and they were they were they were really great about understanding we and we said let's live it for three years and we're collecting this information talking to kids talking to teachers looking at logistical pieces around it. Um, and I think now that that's sort of complete, it sort of makes sense and we should be at least studying things every 3 years. And if it leads to a revision, great. But if it doesn't, at least we've done our due diligence. >> I got excited when I saw 9 to 12 when I skipped the delayed opening that [clears throat] the schedule was >> did not >> much smaller blocks, but >> well, yay for yay for the middle schoolers. >> It's a good shift. >> It's a good start. Um, I think they'll be some very happy parents when they hear. >> And it looks like it fits the whole music band >> in most cases. Again, if I'm a student who has multiple needs, there are times when we we do run into conflicts, but we really tried to make sure we eliminated as many conflicts due to resources and scheduling as we could. So I mean it looks like because didn't so did they not have four blocks a day? They only had two core academics a day and now they have all the difference is they're moving more which is a good thing. Um, and so they're and they're seeing their core academic teachers every day because there was like some color [snorts] block that I didn't understand and there was something >> and I inherited what I I think when I I jokingly said to Sarah Kylie when we first it felt like you ever seen your grandmother's kaboodleoodle all the yarns together and we little by little had to qualify each string and make different yarns. So, um, this feels like it accomplished a lot of what the feedback said. And, um, kids will be happy because within that lunch block, we're also able to incorporate, um, some movement slash recess times for kids to succeed. Okay. So, >> it might not always be outdoors, >> but >> I mean it's that's funny because this conversation just came up with some of my friends because I have an eighth grade boy and movement is good, you know, for him and and all his friends and uh we were talking about like they they they need a reset. They need to they need to move to then be able to sit. So even if it's getting up and moving class to class or you know so >> can I ask you something the way the chaos that the arts community and band and chorus and all that it discourages them that they're burnt out and they don't continue. So >> that was one of the other followups, right? They had that every day >> for this much time. And so and again I I want to thank and applaud our music teachers too because it >> Chris says it best. Working on a schedule in a school is an exercise in making everyone equally unhappy. Um, but knowing that everybody sort of has to sacrifice something that our teachers were they really I kind of got goosebumps there. It was >> I do not have that effect. Yeah. As as uh involved a process as it can be. Um they were they were tremendous and and it was very kid- centered. So hats off to the to the teachers. So, when does um as someone who's lived through band um when does it happen? Because that was a concern. I think I think for some kids having it every day, they had to miss win every day. So, they missed out on win and they had banned every like they had more band than they ever had of math, which I know that's different now. So, where does it fall? >> So, there are some combinations depending on grade level. Like I said, I I >> Oh, you >> I don't want to bog >> the handbook discussion down, but I can certainly come >> figure out a time to do something informative with those. There's combination depending on grade level with some overlap during the um AB flex and win times. >> Okay. Yeah. So again, trying to make sure there's space available for interventions, but also these pieces and not >> go backwards on the the quality of the music program which has been exponentially great over the last >> I mean I I I just think that's something parents would want to know like is it every day or because it might motivate kids to stick it out to stick with it. I don't mean stick it out stick with it if they it's gone from every day to every other day. I don't know what that >> I'm not choosing between PE or art. >> Right. Exactly. So >> So we we did accomplish that. >> Good. Yeah. Thanks. It's great. >> I just had one question about this that I didn't get a chance to send you. I I see like if you look at the the high school and everything pretty clean schedule, but if you're looking at sixth, seventh, and eighth grade, you you still have everything kind of dumped up like flex A, flex B. Is there any way to kind clean those those columns or those those cells up and just have them be the same just like the high school side where it's just it's flexibating? >> Kind of take takes a little bit of the clutter out of the >> and I will throw myself at the mercy of this group. >> I am not the format >> personally. So, um I don't I can't tell you how that sauce has been made but yes. Okay. I might I might even suggest as to keep it simple and have each grade be its own page for families. So grade six, grade seven, just a thought or it own table its own its own table. So like, oh, I have a sixth grader and I have or I have a seventh grader. Anyway, whatever. >> We can and should simplify. >> And then the only other thing I I had and again I ran out of time to send it to you. Um, I found at least one link that was not accessible. So, uh, I'm going to attempt to try and go through the whole thing completely logged out everything. It's just apparent who has no access to anything under the sun and see if I can find any other Google Docs or anything else that comes up and says you don't have access to this. If it's going to live in the handbook, then that should be accessible without meeting. >> I alluded I alluded to it earlier. We also ran into the same pieces and Maria is on top of it. We found that um some of the permissions of Google depending on which drive something was created in >> uh for instance that this page that we were working on was created by Tyler and they had to reshare it with me so that I could see your comments. Um so we are working as it's it's nobody's fault. It's sort of circumstance of time and turnover. Maria's identified some some pathways to clean it up. That is one of the big drivers. We ran into that with um links to board policy last year as well. Yeah. >> Um the calendar links on the website we we've we have we're we're working on >> and I looked at a lot of links. Kudos to you guys. The links all look good for a lot of the stuff going right through the website and everything. So fantastic job. >> Does anybody else have any other comments or or questions about the EMHs student and parent handbook? I updated the school meal prices. >> Yes. Thank you. Uh that was very recent at the last meeting. So >> our draft was done and then >> Yeah. Yep. >> So, um you'll remember this. Um I just want to bring this up because now is the time to bring it up. Um on page 38 in the handbook, it references detention and suspension. And the first sort of line of consequence is teacher detention. And it says a detention may be assigned by a classroom teacher, counselor or any other faculty member. Um the first bullet says teachers may assign after school detentions to students who do not meet academic or behavioral expectations. That's a very vague statement and I lived that and I think it can be interpreted in many ways and I would ask you all to have it because that's very subjective um to be transparent. One of my children received a detention for not doing their homework after three years of high school. This was a new occurrence. That was a teacher's a teacher had the right to issue that that wasn't reflective of his academic performance. It was reflect reflection of his behavior which is a choice. It is a choice to do your homework. We have set it up that it we're 8020. There are lots of kids and there's lots of homework that is not being done in high school for a teacher to any teacher and I'm not trying to call out a particular teacher but any teacher can do that. If that's the practice we're going to it's very inconsistent and I never really noticed that until I lived it. And um I don't I think that we need a little more clarity on what what a teacher can So sure behaviors can you can you define it? Put some parenthesis. Can you define what not meeting an I don't think an afterchool detention for a kid not meeting an academic a high school kid meeting an academic um expectation. What does that mean? >> That's so >> that's so vague. >> The natural consequence of homework and if we're saying that it's 8020, you don't essentially don't have to do the homework. How to understand? It's got to be one of the >> I'm just curious. I'm a little confused because you did say it was a behavior. It's a choice not to do it. So that's a behavior, right? Well, >> so do you get the detention for the behavior? >> The detention was for not completing the homework assignment. So the consequence in my mind is you get a zero or an IWS or an N or whatever. We we we align that that's that's that's our grading policy. So for students who do zero homework, the maximum percentage, right? Let's say they do they get they excel on everything. They're not going to get an E in that class. They're going to get a BC or a BC plus, right? Because they've made that choice. >> We're trying to teach them to be thinkers. We're not and so we're not trying to get them to perform be out of in my mind a threat. So the threat is if you don't do your homework you'll have a detention and this pol this this handbook allows that. >> So I wonder and I I I don't take this as a disagreement. >> Yeah. Um, but in the in the if it were done the way that philosophically would support academic growth, I agree because even though the words we just used here is you're assigning an academic detention as a consequence and a zero is the consequence. And that flies in the face really of what competency based education is because it's then saying even though it's only 20% of the grade, we are using we are using a grade to punish. Uh and that has been something that we've really tried hard not to not only use grades to punish but also lower the expectations. We've had a real culture issue since the beginning and I watched it as a resident before I was here about some students have the mindset, some families have the mindset that formatives don't matter and we're really trying to shift that anything that teachers are assigning during their class does matter. It's important. I agree that punishing our way out of it is not going to solve the problem. But I wonder if and especially given that the last teacher contract, you know, everyone is 15 minutes twice a week for the I wonder if maybe sort of the happy medium is to say it, you know, I think the word detention has a lot of sort of vitrial route. I might say teacher detention or assigned academic support. So if a student because if you don't do your summitives, you're not ready formatives. you're not we may not be ready for yourself. >> You may not be but you may sometimes >> but but how do our teachers know >> but that's >> and your responsibility as a kid is and a family is to support what's there and our responsibility is to support your learning. So what I guess what's the best could we say maybe uh teacher detention and then section B maybe assigned mandatory academic support but really dedicated to is it work completion is it you you missed the boat on this section and I'm going to give you 15 minutes of extra help that I would agree with. >> Yeah but just because somebody doesn't do their homework doesn't mean that they need support. >> So they just may choose not to. And I'm I mean, >> right, >> would I would I like my children to do their homework? Yes, I would. But I'm also not going to threaten my kids >> at 17 years old to say you're grounded if you don't do your homework because that's exactly what the teacher is doing. What I say is these are these are your grades. These are the consequences of your grades. Are you going to pass your class? No. Every parent parents differently. But again, I'm not I don't personally I feel very strongly and again living through this after 3 years of high school never receiving a detention and one educator very experienced I'm sure very competent. I'm sure an excellent educator. But when I asked Tyler Nectton to reference how this was allowed, he referenced me back to this handbook and he referenced me this section which never brought it never it never uh I never thought of it until until I was living it. And I pulled several students that I worked with and said, "Have you ever received a detention for not doing your homework?" These are kids that I work with, typical high school kids in in my advisory. and they're like, "No, you get a zero. That's your consequence. Different grading system." So, I really feel that this is unfair and very subjective for your teachers and you can't it's if it's in there, well, what are you going to and a teacher does it how how can you say they can't do it? So, that was the situation we lived. You can't undo it. It sounds like the consistency is also something that we want to consider thinking about or the lack of consistency in how it's applied. That would be a great maybe staff discussion. But I would also ask if you consider are there behaviors that also have academic consequences and behavioral consequences. I would advocate that the answer is yes. Because while there may be an academic consequence, if I'm not doing my homework, I don't care. >> It's not much of a consequence. And if we believe that doing homework is something that people should pursue, if it is a uh a habit of mind, right, that's a term we used to use. Uh we know that students who are successful and graduate post-graduate programs, not enter but have successful habits of mind, right? They're they they have those those I'm arriving on time. I'm getting my work done. So if we want to encourage those habits, are there behavioral consequences that maybe can also go along with that? I'm thinking more like cheating, too. If I'm cheating on a test, I'm going to get a zero. But is that really significant enough just to say, "Oh, you get a zero." Right? >> I if I was cheating, maybe I didn't care anyway. >> So what is that line? And that might be a great discussion to have as far as, you know, what what areas do cross over and what areas that are going to be more farreaching if we let them go. And um and I I would suggest that frankly I I having a son who did not do a lot of his homework. [clears throat] That's right, TJ. Um I would have welcomed more of those consequences to force him to do it to help develop those habits because he developed bad habits as adults because I didn't know that he wasn't doing them all. >> I'm not a power school parent. I'm not great at that. So >> no, >> that interface. So it was hard. >> So it's a good conversation to have. I I mean I also think that you there's some autonomy and being a student and as especially as they're getting to be juniors and seniors in high school and like you own it. You own this. Your future is your future. You have 17 year olds. >> You have a you know it's like you I mean good luck. Like you you know what I mean? They're they're they're living their their best life and they're doing their thing and you know I see the grades and I read their grade reports and stuff like that. So, I think if we leave this in there the way it is, it's completely subjective. And I think that it could potentially come up again for somebody else. If this is the practice of one teacher, two teachers, three teachers, five teachers, if is if this is how we're going to do it, neping, then everybody needs to do it. >> Practice or is it just that more so not every teacher is doing it? It's the consistency piece. You can take the homework piece out of it because I think you and I agree. Take the homework piece out of it regardless. The wording leaves it way too open for interpretation and there's no it leaves too much room for inconsistency from >> So a behavioral expectation is a little more definable. So being on time, sitting in your seat, not talking to your neighbor, um not not disrupting class, those are a little more observable. Not meeting academic expectations. How do I know that Matt sitting next to me is, you know, he comes to class and he's sitting there and he's doing his work and he's doing his classwork. He didn't do his homework. Who knows why, but he didn't do it. But he's but he's doing the rest of the stuff and he's not a disruption. Maybe he is, maybe he's not saying. And so I'm just using this as an example because I think that it's it's I don't think it's what we support as a district. I don't think that Matt who comes in but he didn't do his homework last night. I warned him. I said if you don't do your homework you're gonna get a detention. But Matt had to work till 11 and he didn't do his homework and now he's got a detention tomorrow. >> I wonder if and I and and I some of this right is is very philosophical as parents. I I'd be delighted for my son and daughter to own. I don't I lost privilege because I'm not Yeah. He did >> own it, right? But I would have been delighted for someone to say I'm keeping so and so F. I wonder if maybe um again I could take this question back right and say hey to teachers hey because even in my mind I'm thinking I could change wording just to say teachers may assign after school detention students who may need additional academic and or behavioral support >> because your behavior still you should be accountable >> but Matt doesn't need academic support. Matt's Matt's an E student. He doesn't need the help. He just didn't do it. >> I could foresee an instance where this might happen where what we used to get in the old days was a kid would write IDK. >> Just to get it done. >> Sure. >> Is that what we want the standard to be for our kids? >> But are we going to assign consequences uh to kids because they wrote IDK on their paper? >> I guess I would ask what's happening in the time they keep. So if it's just sitting there and writing, I will not write IDK a 100 times at this year. I totally agree with you. But if it's if the teacher is saying, okay, Julie, you wrote IDK, let's let's review this section. To me, that's that's that's good. >> Well, and don't, if I'm not mistaken, teachers can assign Matt's going to go to this teacher for flex. They they can they can assign that, correct? like they can they can choose because I know my kids have been sort of told they have to go somewhere for flex to make up something. So that would make more that's less of a con. I mean, yeah, it technically is a consequence, but to say to a kid, hey, you didn't do this homework and it's really important for this uh research project, so I need you to come during flex to finish this or you're going to be lost on the research assign or what project. That to me makes more sense than an afterchool detention where they're going to sit there on their Chromebook and not do their >> see that's where I I I would agree with that's what was happening. Um but I think the >> you know the purpose of the time after school should be defined. If I'm giving you academic support >> it's to address this IDK. Yeah. Because in fair in fairness to teachers and those of us who have lived it as you have formative process is so integral to teaching and learning that if we can't get a read where kids are formatively it's really difficult to predict how they're going to perform in a summer. So finding ways uh one to provide the support because I agree uh we don't punish with grades but goodness like you said they're saying for 15 minutes we can knock this one piece out. If it's just sitting there and cleaning dust I would agree with you. >> Yeah. Could be more like parameters around it like you have who worked like at market basket and obviously couldn't get his homework done that one night. Maybe he doesn't get detention. This isn't a normal behavior. You just get to zero. >> Well, >> but after five Yeah. >> say missed assignments. Now it's becoming, >> right? >> And now you just don't care about the weight because it's 8020. And so you're going to pass the class no matter what. If you don't do your homework, >> now you're kind of just slacking. >> Now step up your game. >> Yeah. But I think that wouldn't be mirect. that somebody would eventually just >> but then I think that's where where relationship building >> like and say after five missed homework assignments >> now you get a detention and you're required to make up homework because now it's becoming >> Yeah. So my my biggest concern is that it just where it where the first bullet says teachers may may assign after school detention to students who do not expectations. I understand behavioral expectations. They come in and they're disruptive and it's it's too much that you can define them. This is why you're staying after school A, B, C, and D. It's a little harder, I think, and a little more subjective than meeting academic expectations for a kid who's passing who for a kid whose attendance is decent. You know, there's so so they come to class, they do the classwork. So that's where I think and I don't think we're gonna solve it tonight, but I don't I don't love that it's still in it's in the handbook for a whole another year without any kind of >> So what if I what if I point us to the fact that it says May gives us >> well I I hear the subjectivity thing there has to be some subject um and and to to razor out three five seven that's dangerous and um it's also adding more respon it's shifting responsibility where it should be which is the student and the family onto the school and the teachers right and so what I'd like to propose if I took that statement and some of our studies and say fact let's jump into this because we do this from time to time what does this statement mean to the unit that's how it starts and then we can get an idea what was the intention what was the purpose why might we want to keep a kid after and and then we can sus out is it I'm going to show him I'm going to show her or >> also I think the norms are much closer than you think. If it's only happened once in three years, and I haven't heard of any other incidences of it other than this meeting, it's I think the norms are very close already, very tight. That that is not necessarily the norm for the teachers. But what I'm hearing is that sometimes what is one child's motivation to do the work might be another parents aggravation and then this isn't right. And and we get that we have we come from different places. So I do appreciate that having those conversations around develop that clarity with the staff of how this is implemented uh could could easily then tighten that up slightly even more and say okay are the academic consequences enough or was this child just being outright disrespectful and write IDK on everything and just and was it more about the behavior than it was about not doing the work which are those nuances of those situations >> and I would like to offer that our our handbooks are online and so I always view them as this is something that if we need to make adjustments to not that it happens right away went back we could during the mid year if this is something a conversation a study happens people talk you could actually go back and say we want to adjust this >> junior I I will say that I was doing an I was interviewing some students um doing culture and climate consultation >> and the group of students and they asked well who's the hardest teacher oh Miss Soko she's the toughest why is she the hardest She won't let us fail. Oh, great. This is a seventh and eighth grade group of students. What do you mean? If we don't do work, she finds us and makes us do it. Whether it's after school, recess time, or whatever. So, that's what makes her tough. Yep. She will not let us fail. >> And they loved her for that. And that is one of the most successful schools in the state uh academic wise. And I think so this is maybe something that we can bring up with our staff too is like what kind is our culture and climate around academic work and how do we support students but also you know again is there age differences between middle school and high school right and how do we go about building those habits of minds and reminding them how how important it is and it's okay to slip up once in a while but how do we deal with that and yeah that's a great conversation to be had >> and and maybe where it says meeting academic expectations in parentheses for example and maybe it's um repeated missed assignments or uh you know I don't know that's just a just a thought but this just leaves it like completely wide open and in this particular case it was completely wide open and it was and and some parents I asked a few other parents and they were like right on I love that I love that this teacher did this and I was like all right well >> I don't support this because my kid has to own I'm not I'm not sitting with an 11th grader checking his assignment book and he has to do the work. I can hop on to P school if I need to. I can email a teacher if I need to. I can talk to him if I need to. But I'm not checking with him. Did you do your homework tonight? Not in a not in 11th grade. And we none of us should be. Um unless you have a kid who need actually needs that support. if you have a kid that needs a little more support in getting a little homework >> to help move the conversation along. I think we're at a point where we're not going to resolve it this evening, but I do feel that it will stay for this year in in the handbook. And I understand and uh the school uh Mr. Mazone will take that back to his his leadership team and his staff and have some conversation around that language around what does this mean to us and how do we implement this consistently uh to be as fair as possible for the child >> and kids. I would ask though that because you had a you you could reframe the language a little bit and I might I'm not obviously it's not going to go away because Julie doesn't like it in there but I think there might be a better way to and maybe chat GBT can >> so I just I just I just put in the comment section and what I would do is take some of these languages and evaluate them as part of that discussion and I just quickly for the purposes of providing students support towards meeting academic and expectations I just threw that in their circles. >> Yeah. Yeah. That Thank you. >> And I would like to look at that word behavioral because that does potentially contradict JICPA, which there are a variety of different things that tie to behavioral. So, we're going to be putting in another spot where someone could point to this and say, "Well, you chose detention, but on JDCA, I would like the warning option, please, because it's in the same category." >> And I might I agree. I might get to the place where it says schoolwide expectations. So, it doesn't say any of those things, >> right? So, coming from a totally different language because I say all your kids go to my kids to a different school. >> But from homework perspective, like my kids teams always met together all the time. So the rule was if the child went all week and didn't do homework and all the teams knew that this child didn't do their homework on Saturday, they were required to come in and do their homework is kind of how that worked. And so like but if the child did it for Matt's class, Courtney's class, but maybe Miss Ben and Julie's because of work, whatever, we're not going to do it. You're going to get a zoom. But if you didn't do it all week, you're gonna come in on Saturday and then it's kind of how it work there. >> Yeah. Giving suggestions. >> Yeah, there's lots of I mean different scenarios because we have a child who's just taking their 8020 average and saying, you know what, I'm just not going to do it because it doesn't matter. I'm still going to class fast >> versus the child who might have other situations going on in their life. So, how do you weigh that? >> Yeah. So, I feel they did a really good job of weighing that and meeting us teens and saying, "This is child being lazy, not wanting to do it because we're all experienced and they're coming in on Saturday versus Wednesday seem to be a problem for this child. Let's look at that." >> Correct me if I'm wrong. If they're late >> so many days, they still get a zero. Correct. >> Yes. So I know we're talking about competency based and striving for it, but then there's no way that you can measure it effectively and make that up. So that may be something worth looking at. >> You can make it up on a Saturday, you know, and now that puts some weight on the child that they're spending their Saturday morning. >> I would say philosophically, one of the answers to that is um to avoid the IWS designation. you still have to complete it but you may not get the grade because then it still makes it about the learning but then there's the additional I have sports no you don't I have senior no you don't that would be the way I would combat that the IWS designation might go away but it would still not have the kids for instance if kids get sent out of the office out of class for behavior um I I was I was sort of born into the behaviorist world where the work never goes away. You can sus out pretty quickly whether a kid's trying to not do their work or they don't know how to do the work once they get to you. And so typically if a student gets kicked out of math class when they're in the middle of a worksheet, um I'll say we'll do our processing, there'll be the consequence. I said, "And you're back here for lunch to finish the work that you missed while you're acting that way in class." And that's pretty effective. I wish we could do that more consistently as well. Well, we talk a lot, we use the word restorative a lot and we need to call out when we're actually being restorative and so we can highlight that and I do think we need to just continue to grow in that area. So again, this particular part of the handbook that's not restorative justice, right? That's not a restorative practice. Um, detentions just in general are not restorative. It's not changing the behavior. It's just punishing the kids. And so sometimes sometimes there's there's reason to to just utilize, right? >> I mean, but anyway, >> and the family support around it and and you know, those >> but if we're going to be if we're going to say that we're a school that that really focuses on restorative practices, we need to be we need to be a district that really does that and I think we have some room to grow in that. >> I agree. I think one of the mistakes people make when they go the restorative route, restorative does not mean without constiped to do two things. Change the behavior and send a message. Um, and that's sending a message without making an example. And sometimes the the pendulum shift to restorative um, if it's not executed properly, you know, it turns into I just had a conversation with the assistant principal. I forgot what happened as soon as we walked up. So, there has to be a little bit of both. Uh, when kids have feelings, they remember the moment. >> I'm going to put a pin pin in the conversation. I think we've given a lot of input onto this and there's certainly gonna need to be more before we get to a resolution, but let's let's put a pin in in that portion of the conversation. Does anybody have anything else for the EMHs student and parent handbook? >> Okay. Can I get a motion to approve the 2627 uh EMHs student handbook uh student and parent handbook with amendments? Moved by Courtney, >> second, >> second by Matt. All those in favor say I. >> Any opposed? That passes 40. >> I have a question. Um, are we required to approve handbooks? >> You are. >> All right. Uh, otherwise we might not bring them to you. >> I Well, you know, I always ask if if this is is if this is I like seeing them, but is this something that we actually it is a requirement? and the athletics we're bringing even though you're not required to but we feel like you should be aware of it. >> All right. Let's move on to the 2627 EES student and parent handbook. I was just going to say I I did read the whole thing. I only saw one thing. It was the um meal prices >> and that was I was going to mention that tonight. Yeah. Because we did this before the meal prices have been changed from West. So we'll go back and redo all that. >> That's the only comment I had. >> Thank you. Yeah, we work really hard. This was something Dan uh Comatti has a real sense of detail and we compliment each other really well. It's I sometimes run into the trees and I go through the forest and he he sees the trees. So, um and we provided that little shift there. There wasn't a lot that we had to change. I was actually talking about that when we got here. It's really nice to be in a position where a lot of the systems that we have put in place over the last several years are just maintaining them and uh we're not making a lot of changes in schedules and things like that. It's good consistency for the kids, the parents and the teachers especially. Thank you. There was that page that kind of highlighted just a few of the areas that we did and then um while I read through the preschool one as well any questions there too. It's kind of nice to have that as an addendum. Sarah Saucier did the majority of the lifting for that. Did a tremendous amount of work and her and the preschool staff deserve the credit for really putting that together. Did anybody have any comments or any feedback uh on the EES student parent? >> No, I liked the um that you had put something in a big bold blue box. That was that was a good idea. >> Pickup. >> The pickup patrol. >> I want to say Paw Patrol. >> Paw Patrol. >> No, everyone will know what you're saying if you say Paw Patrol though. We all do that. >> Yeah. But it did jump out at you. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, why I just have a question. Why is it called the parent student staff handbook when we have a staff I mean in theory I understand why because we expect the staff to know these things too but technically we have an employee handbook >> right we have an employee handbook this is more the nitty-gritty about specific to our building so there are things in our building that are different than EMHs sure this kind of just covers making sure I didn't know that well it's in the handbook you should be familiar with all the students especially around consequences and policies. We want them to anything that directly affects the students. >> You know, I don't want >> just for accountability sake as well as just to help them out and support >> any feedback or anything like that for the ED student handbook. Can I get a motion to approve? >> Move by Matt. >> Second. >> Second by Julie. All those in favor say >> I passes 40. >> All right. And then we have the uh preschool ES preschool guidelines handbook addendum. >> I did not This is the That is the first time we've seen Is this uh a new one or we've just never seen it? >> I would guess you've never seen it. Okay. >> Um and and it just really is uh aligning the preschool with with other practices and making sure that they get updated and get the attention as well. >> Yeah. I wanted to really, you know, kind of highlight that the preschool is part of us but also a unique entity. Totally. >> And so that's really where >> I would give it to my >> uh just like to comment that um it's kind of amazing that we charge our peer models 150 a month >> to attend and that I know we're going to have I just want to remind you we want to talk about the preschool just to like get a little more of an understanding. >> I've already invited Sarah Sau here to >> that might be something we want to look at. Obviously, not for this school year, but 150 is less than $40 a week or, you know, we have really competent staff. It's a really great I know we need peer models. Um, >> just I I agree and we can talk about the pricing, but I just want to point out that it's not a full day program. They only go for for three to four hours max. >> Um, and it's not even five days a week. And so there are just some it's not a full >> Sure. daycare providing eight hours a day till the parents. >> No, and I don't I know it's not a daycare, but I mean that's that that's it's an opportunity for us to I think revisit that when we talk about >> I didn't I never knew because I hadn't seen it and I was like oh wow 150 >> a month >> feels like a bargain after daycare doesn't it? >> Yes. I had to pay for kindergarten. You probably did too. >> You did too. Yeah. I had to pay for half if you wanted a full day, I'd pay $3,000 a year. >> Uh and it changed like >> anyway, >> yeah. >> Where's that money? >> For a full day. >> For a full day. If you wanted your kid, it was 3,000 a year. >> And the job that Miss Gillis did >> was a I would pay. >> She was very >> She still is. Both my kids had >> Miss Arsenal. >> Miss Arnold was she was Miss Kobe at one point. >> She was Miss Kobe. That's why I was >> She was awesome. She still is. >> Uh >> anybody have any any additions or or suggestions for the preschool guideline uh or the preschool guidelines handbook addendum? >> I agree with everybody. It was fantastic to to see this being presented since we haven't seen it before. Thank you very much. Can I get a motion to approve the preschool guidelines handbook addendum? >> So moved. >> Moved by Courtney. >> Second by Matt. >> Any opposed? None. That passes 4. >> That's amazing. >> That was pretty good. And that's thanks to those who did their homework, too. That helps get it to them ahead of time and they were able to adjust. So, thank you all for for the >> work. So, I understand that people didn't do it because >> it was a couple hours. >> Yeah. But thank you for that. >> I'm not I'm not judging. There there are years where I've skimmed it and let other people do the >> I will say it's it is nice to that you go through it though and the good feedback and the time that we all put into it. It's nice to get Yeah. You know. Yeah. So, thank you for that. >> Agreed. >> All right. Hopefully you stay nice and cool. >> Thank you guys very much. >> Robin would not like it. It's very hot for her. I love it right now. >> Robin's actually watching. and said surprisingly she agrees with a lot of what you're saying. >> Well, thank you Robin that believe it or tonight. [laughter] >> She has she sick. We can take it. >> What did Courtney said? Courtney said I agree with you a lot but I not not not your um not your arguments but I didn't agree with you. agree in the endame. You took a left. I took a right. >> Crash in the middle. >> Thank you, Robin. Sorry giving you weird with the fan. >> I was like, I'm trying to read your >> I don't mind the temperature in here, but Robin would not like the temperature. Robin, you're better off at home. >> True. >> It's hot. It's muggy in here. Temperature versus feeling sick. True. >> But we do still have a lot. So, let let's try and keep >> So, moving on to reports and we get superintendent report back into the uh >> Yes. So, the first one, um well, actually, I'll come back to the professional development master plan. Hopefully, you've had a chance and I I know it added to your homework that you had was on the previous agenda and you asked for more time. Uh but before we get to that, uh Ben and I need to finalize the retreat agenda this week. Uh so if you have any ideas, please email them to us so we can finalize that retreat which is uh next week. Uh lunch will be provided. The final schedule will come out. Uh we are still thinking about 8:30 to 3:30 kind of rough timeline. Um and we are at Burley Farm. So we have secured that place, but the final agenda will be coming out. So if you have other topics or thoughts, uh Ben and I can finalize that retreat agenda for for you >> if possible. So last year we met in the library. I don't know why, but we did and we sat in a square >> and that was nice because there was a lot of us. >> We can definitely do a square. >> We've done a horseshoe over there, but the square makes it a smaller little bit of a smaller It's a big room. >> Uh it seemed a little more personal last there. We did that once a few years ago, too. We can definitely make it into a square. >> And lunch is provided. So, lunch will be provided. >> What where you what's your to? >> Uh, so Sam, my my admin assistant, came up with the idea and I already approved it, but uh there's a new Greek restaurant. >> Oh, yes. I've been trying. >> It will be a little bit of a a buffet of Nice. That's awesome. >> from there. I don't know. >> No, it's supposed to be really good. >> What is it called? The great Greek. The Great Greek. I'm calling it Taste of Athens because Athens from Ted Lasso Taste of Athens. >> So, one of my kids went and had a Euro and it was very good. >> All right. >> So, I think that's great. >> Please give us any retreat ideas uh so we can finalize that agenda this week. Uh and then the other update uh thank you to Julie. Uh we do have our AP hire interviews uh tomorrow. >> Live media. >> Oh. Oh. Oh, I'm sorry. >> The assistant principal interview's resation and so forth. Yes, we have that to schedule for tomorrow. The candidate pool was not uh very broad. Uh but we have two candidates that we are interviewing tomorrow. So we'll bring that back to the board after that committee has had an opportunity to interview those candidates and see what direction we wish wish to go in. So that's that's moving forward. No, when we get to personnel, I'll give you No, I >> you when you said thanks to Julie because I had emailed you about the library media specialist. I thought that's where you were going with that. And then you said AP and I was like >> so the last one is yes uh if you've had an opportunity to look at the professional development master plan as I explained last time we had a committee that met many times our curriculum coordinators helped uh navigate that. There was excellent representation from uh uh teachers, paraprofessional, unified arts and also administration uh on that committee and we're very pleased with with that that we're required to update every 5 years and it is submitted to the state. Um but it does require board approval before that final approval. The only comment I had on that uh was having been on the board for four and a half years, I do not recall that we discussed because it the first committee composition says school board member and I don't know if and Ben or Matt I mean I don't think I don't even know if it's ever come up to be fair. I don't want to be on it, but but I I feel like if if that's the first bullet item, there should be a school board member. But we didn't I don't think we discussed that. >> We did not have one this year. Um it is not required by the the makeup of the state to have a schoolboard member. It is recommended if one wishes to participate, we can easily have one. And so, yes, we did not have >> I don't I just don't I don't think it ever came up. >> I don't think it was ever an offer. And like I said, I have no interest in that committee. However, I think if we're going to keep that in there, if you're going to keep that in there, then >> it should be at least asked. It's not required, but does is there a school board member that would like to attend? >> But you guys won't be meeting again. >> We won't be meeting again now for another >> four years. Okay. So, >> anyway, that's all that was my only comment. >> And it does the current language does say we'll offer. Yes. Yes, language does reflect. >> Oh, also it says committee members 2526, I would imagine. Oh, you're referencing those were the >> who created this created. Gotcha. >> And that is a requirement of the state to make sure we outline who was on the on the committee. >> Any other comments or criticisms of the PD master? Um, can I just ask, so the the PD coordinator obviously for the elementary school was Sarah Arsenalt, correct? >> Who's the PD coordinator for the middle high school? >> Uh, Kristen. Um, uh, Jasper, >> she's not listed on >> She did not participate in the committee. >> That seems a little >> I think she just had conflict. >> Yeah. I I in four years I think that that should be required as a stipened position. you if you are going to be the PD coordinator you're you need to be just like we have curriculum coordinators we on there because they do a lot of PD I think that's a requirement and if they can't fulfill that requirement in in four years then >> it's a good note >> Julie to go along with that it does say in here the yearly meeting has to take place so it may make sense to identify a board member if they want to partake in that yearly meeting just so they're up to speed I know that'll shift over time, but we could add that as well. Yeah, >> that's all. >> That's all. [laughter] >> Anybody with anything else? >> Okay. In that case, hearing hearing no other additions uh or comments about the PD uh master plan. Can I get a motion to approve the 2026 to 2031 professional development master plan? >> Moved by Julie. >> Second by Matt. All those in favor say >> I. Any >> opposed? That passes 40. >> Uh, next we go to policy. And I know it seems like a lot and we knew this was coming. Uh, a lot of things. There's two real factors that are increasing the number of policies. One is our legislative body and and making changes to different things that we have to try to keep up with. And one is trying to keep up with the backlog of some that haven't been been addressed in a long time. Uh thankfully uh this evening not I did not receive any feedback on any of the second read uh or the two re the two that are being promoted for uh to be rescended. Uh so I I don't have any other additional information on JR AR student records and information or EVCCA. Um so hopefully you've had a chance to look at those. They're pretty straightforward with minimal >> to no changes really to to those two. >> All right. Well, uh if there if nobody has any further changes and I get a motion to accept J as presented. >> So move second by second by Julie. All those in favor say I. I. Any oppose? No. That passes 4. So, we'll take that one off the list. And then let's see. Ecca, just scroll through entire list to find it. >> Less changes. >> Great. >> Oh my god. Uh and if nobody has any additional changes for that policy, since we're already under secondary for that, uh I would also take a motion uh to accept EB uh EBCCA as >> EBA. Yeah. EBB 2C. >> It's wrong on the paper. Oh yeah, in the actual private. >> So yeah, the agenda is incorrect. It's so EBA EB B C A. >> There we go. Got it. Uh there if nobody has any additional changes, can I get a motion to approve as presented? Moved by Courtney. I. I. >> Hearing none. That passes 4 Z. All right. Get those off. So for now that you've approved E B E B E B E B E B E B E B E B E B E B E B CA uh it makes the other two obsolete and that's why the AED those two other ones are there to resend and clean up the book. So we'll we'll take those two together. Uh can I get a motion to approve the resension of uh GB GBA and KFD? >> So move by Courtney. >> I. Any opposed? Hearing none that passes 4 Z. off the books. Thank you. Uh the next one's uh there's one I will talk a little bit about IKF in a second because there was some feedback uh I did get on that one. Uh IKF uh uh excuse me, IK earning of high school credit first read. Uh if you go through that one, it just really talks about we took out the minimal changes. Instead of saying credit in seventh and eighth grade coursework, it is completed prior to grade nine. Again, it's if the child is capable of completing high school work, they're capable of completing high school work uh and getting credit for that. The other thing that you want to take notice of is that when uh we our practice is this and and we want to make sure that it's highlighted in this, we want to encourage students to take things and possibly challenge themselves whether it's seventh or eighth grade and they're taking we don't want to penalize them on GPA or credit. So, we make it very clear in here uh when any high school credit earned prior to grade 9 will not be figured into the calculation on high school grade point average. We just want to point that out to make sure that everyone understands that. And the reasoning again is is to encourage students to challenge themselves if possible to start earning high school credit when they're ready to start earning high school credit. And those were the only real changes to to IK first read. If you have input now, I'll take it. If not, we we'll we'll take it as as uh whenever you have it. >> I mean, looking at this again, I'm just confused. Why Why do we have IL AA in the middle of my >> I'm looking at what you have on your drive. >> I don't have >> Oh, I see. I see. Thank you. >> Are we just referencing that as a previous >> I will double check on that one, Ben. And as first read, I don't know if that's a mistake or if that's intentional. So I I will look on ILBB uh B. Now you got me going, Ben. >> Yeah, >> excuse me. I am recovering from a poll here. ILBA. >> It's quite all right. Because >> I will check on that for you, Ben. And if it's just inadvertently uh placed there or not, >> okay, because I looks like there are changes in that portion of policy, too. >> So IKF uh >> can I just bring add one more comment? Um, I hear exactly what you're saying about not penalizing kids um for trying new things. However, on the flip side, a parent could argue that um if a student did very well, it would benefit their GPA. I just want to bring that up as the other side of that is that for some students taking band or algebra 1 or Spanish one, which are all credit bear, high school credit bearing, they might do very well. And it might come back to us to say, "Wow, my kid took three high school classes in 8th grade and earned an E in all of them and did very well and it's not going to benefit them." I don't disagree with you. I'm just bringing that point. >> I I'm totally agree with that that those circumstances could could exist, but from a management standpoint, we can't pick and choose and say, "You did really well, we're taking all your ease, but you did poorly, so we're not taking yours." uh it's about the learning from our perspective. It is not about the grade. I understand grade grades exist and so forth. >> Uh but it is really more about take a risk and and if you don't do well uh it's it's not going to show on your transcript as a withdrawn or or a failure. So it benefits the child in many ways as well. I get your point and it's valid. >> But just just bringing it up if >> ifa does stay in there if we can make it a hyperlink. >> Perfect. just to bring it over. >> Uh if there's no more questions on IKF we actually changed this afternoon thanks to input. Uh Julie did did email and she did catch uh on first read. I she's on another gold star. She's on on the wall. >> It's my it's it's my meeting. >> Uh so if you remember on March 5th uh we had Julie Morren and uh others from the high school come and again direction from the school board. too many diplomas and we we work together to uh develop a new a new uh practice around that going forward for the class of 2030. So, IKF which comes to you today, uh there was minor changes. Uh the first one you can see in there uh highlighted. It just really wants to uh point out that graduation uh events may be rescended at any time by school administration if the student experiences academic attendance or behavioral difficulties or for failure to follow school district policies and expectations. We just wanted to strengthen this language uh in case that is ever necessary to uh to to uh to do such a thing uh that students may forfeit those privileges uh depending on on uh administration and so forth. So that language was recommended by the policy committee uh and then going forward this is where Julie caught the the uh thing from 2030. this is what we've changed with that meeting that you've already had discussions about and move forward with. All those diplomas would be replaced with uh just really uh two two diplomas which are the um uh one is the basic uh school uh standard school diploma uh New Hampshire diploma and then and then what our requirements are going forward. So those are the changes to IKF. So, um, at the very page page, I think it's page seven, it just says, oh, no, no, sorry. Page, um, five. >> It says for the classes of 2026 to 2029. It should say 2027 to 2029. >> We'll fix that. Um, I am going to probably make an unpopular statement, but I do not love the new language where eligibility to participate in grad in graduation and graduation events may be rescended at any time by the school administration. That's uh I don't disagree in theory with what it says. However, it's very subjective. It's leaving it up to school administration and it's leaving it up at any time. So you're saying in October you can resend that. This is how it reads. In October something happens and you can resend. This gives the school administration. >> I would probably defer to the superintendent. I think this is probably a superintendent decision because you know it's going to raise a lot. So if for some reason let's just say my kids it it the decision should I'm gonna come back to you. >> You'll appeal it. Yeah. So, um, and I think it's extremely vague and while I understand the intent, I think it needs to be cleaned up to be a little more specific. Not specific incidences, but I just think this is so we know we we know our administration now. Two years from now, things may change. And you're leaving that you're leaving a huge decision to go back to my earlier comment about the handbook. Um, if student experiences academic attendance or behavioral difficulties, what is attend what does an attendance difficulty mean? My kid a kid's passing uh they're passing all their classes, but they've been absent 30 times. So, so you're telling me right now that you are going to make the decision that they're not going to walk across the stage? That's what this it leaves open. Um, behavioral difficulties. All right. Well, this kid's being a pain in the butt or whatever. I don't know. I don't know what the issue is that this is a huge consequence for a student and a family and it we need to be as tight as possible and this is not tight. So I I'm in agreement with you on everything and in that um vague is there. The school administration I do agree have should have the right and and definitely needs to have that that ability and to clean it up is is something that does that. We can tighten it up with with superintendent approval with whatever or an appeal process to the superintendent. whatever that language looks like, we could definitely make sure that it checks more than just one box because I I do want to say I get what you're saying. Um I think the current administration has shown very well that we want kids to march. We we clearly clearly want kids to march and there has been no abuse of this at all. Um but I do get your point that policy >> isn't about the person in the role now. It could be how does someone interpret that later. So, I get I get your point >> and we have a behavioral ma ma matrix and we have consequences and kids these are all still children whether they're 18 or 17 or 16 or 19 they still make mistakes and a mistake in October or November or December or or one in each month or whatever it is should not then impact them potentially on June 3. You know, I I I just uh I just think this puts us and and I'm not I believe every I believe we want kids to march. Uh this this is very subjective. So I I really feel like this what before we see it again. >> I don't think someone that >> Yeah, think we're saying the same thing here. Not sure. Um I I just really don't like that it just says school administration like just changing that piece because that's that leaves too much lead into too many. I would rather it like I obviously very much understand for this kind of language but I would rather it be with a superintendent or someone other than school administration. Are we saying the same thing? >> Yes. Okay. >> Well I think that uh I think that you're obviously every many decisions you make you receive input from school administration. Correct. But for a student not to wa not to be allowed to cross the stage the the final decision it should be through you. >> I hear what you're saying. We can easily change some of the language to recommendation by principal not just makes school administration and then with superintendent approval. >> Yeah I I I have some ideas to tighten it up. Um but I do believe that some additional language is necessary. >> Yep. I'm not disagreeing with that. Uh the other first reads uh IKL academic honesty and integrity. Uh if you take a quick look at that uh really has to do with AI. There's a lot of AI language that was inputed in there under number two. I won't read through all of that, but please take a moment to do that. It really is just to say that we know we live in this world uh and that there is a difference in and AI can be plagiarism uh depending on how it is. But we also understand AI is a tool that could be used appropriately a as well. And that's what this language in in academic honesty and integrity is trying to get at uh is to understand that it can be uh used improperly and it can be used properly. No questions. I'm going to move on to KEC uh reconsideration of of instructional materials. So um we had one vague policy that had both instructional materials and also library materials. Uh there is some push from our uh legislative body to create some policies around this. Uh and so KEC is really around the uh for uh the instructional materials. Parents do have a right to uh to question uh instructional materials and this is an attempt to make sure that uh that's done appropriately and that appropriate materials are given in in in in lie of of of what their personal objections may or may not be towards towards that library material >> library or instruction. So that's where the confusion I I can see there here we want to make this one says library but the actual KEC says instructional material. So we wanted to and there still seems to be >> we wanted to separate the two and so while I will make sure that they are are separated because the process you'll see here is is different. So and I'll just go over the library one too. >> me objecting to Julie my teacher is teaching a book I don't like. Johnny Tremaine whatever I don't like the book I as a teacher uh have a responsibility to say oh the the point of the book is about revolution maybe I can give you an alternative book so that's more interpersonal go talk to the teacher what what can we do my child a li and so that process is very different >> okay versus the process which is in here too by the way because we want to separate out a library material I'll still pick on Julie and Mac they seem to be the two picked Julie has an objection to Harry Potter. She doesn't believe in witchcraft. She doesn't believe we should have that book in our in our library. >> Well, that does not give Julie the right to then say every child should not have a right to that book because Matt's children really love the Harry Potter series and they they want to read that series. So, that process is very different where you bring that up and say, "I I don't want this." And it's reviewed differently. And so that's what these two policies are trying to separate out. And I can see even on our own headings, we created some confusion and that will be taking taken care of. Yeah, that that was happening even when we were having the policy meeting about this. We were going back and forth like all right, how do we separate these? >> Is it K for the instructional materials? Is it I for the library? It was it was a good 30-minute discussion just trying to figure out how to separate them. And then there's the associated forms as well, like oh [laughter] have separate forms and everything too instead of trying to co-mingle. >> Are you are you going to do you go to policy or >> I've been I've been to the last couple >> you're glutton to learn and uh and see how the process goes. >> Great. So I've already explained them and then that's what KECR form is is just to give you if you do have reconsideration of instructional materials what might you have to do and and go through that. So that form was was created. Um and then uh the JL is the library materials. Again I'll use that same same example. It's very different if you're requesting my child not read something versus the whole district or not available to everyone. And so JL is is trying to attempt that as well as an IGL form which creates the process. How can I if I do have a legitimate concern, how can this be investigated and and and go through that process and JL goes through and of course it starts with the committee and the principal and then it goes all the way up to the superintendent and then it and it then then the last authority if a parent or guardian wishes for a book to be removed from the library for all people the board would have final approval of whether they agree with that decision or not. And that is all the new policies that we have for you this evening. And and I hate to say it, but >> this length is going to be somewhat typical for a little while. >> All right. Nobody has any other questions about the first read tonight. Let's move on to personnel. >> Uh so just trying to find the letters here. Here we go. Uh the first one we have is is uh I have to say I've really enjoyed working with Susan Gulteri for uh since I've been here. She's filled uh many different roles for us uh when we've had uh an unexpected principal leave. She filled in as interim principal. She is always a person willing to take on any responsibility. Um and she's beloved by the students, staff, and parents. And I have to say I wish her the best of of fortune as she moves on from us. Uh and I have to say it was a true pleasure working with Susan and with regret I have her resignation uh before you this evening. >> Can I get a motion to >> Can I just >> absolutely >> say something? I just I want to acknowledge uh the work that she did for 11 years It's a loss. It's a real loss for us. It's a loss for the kids. She made [clears throat] Sorry, I'm a little emotional. Uh she made great connections with kids and parents. She would call at 6:00 at night. She would uh talk you through. She would meet you at the front office. She was down to earth. She was real. And I just it's it's a it's a loss for I know she spent a lot of time with the middle school uh kids and parents and I know as as somebody who has a current middle schooler like I had a lot of conversations with her but she kept it real and uh no judgment and um I I wish her all the best but um sorry to see her go but uh and I I just want her to know that uh I think as a board member I'm in a parent more more of a parent than a board member, but I'm extremely uh thankful and grateful for everything she did for both of my children as they uh moved through the middle of high school, the activity nights, the I mean nature's classroom, um Washington DC, uh in addition to her regular job, all of those things. Um, she built relationships with staff. She obviously with kids. She did, uh, she would always had kids in her office for Little Jolly Ranchers and [snorts] attended IEP meetings. And I I mean, she she did really go above and beyond what her regular job description was in my from my perspective. Um, I only know it as a parent and school board member, but um, yeah, she was a great she certainly did. >> yeah, she's definitely investing children. >> Yeah. So big shoes to fill for uh whoever uh whoever we hopefully we can find somebody to fill it. Anyway, I just wanted to say that number. >> Thank you very much. >> Anybody else have anything they'd like to share? No. Okay. Uh, can I please get a motion to accept Susan Gilar's u resignation with regrets? So move by minute second by Julie. All those in favor say I. I. >> All those opposed. >> I passes 40. >> Uh, the next one I don't want to go into a lot of detail. Uh, but, uh, I do have to go into some detail because I know certification is always a question that that comes up and and we're prepared to talk about that. Rebecca Bellisry uh EMHs special education teacher nominee. You can see she comes with over 10 years experience at Portsmouth Middle School five as uh as a as a parent professional and then promoted within that to help run uh what they call director of kids in difficult situations program from 2010 to 2015. She then took time off her own her own personal reasons and her lensure lapsed. So, I personally have called the state, talked to Susan Blake, the assistant director of of of uh credentiing and we have a plan for Rebecca to get certified. The challenge is there's always different pathways and I know we've had this conversation many times before. Having been already a licensed teacher in New Hampshire, she's not eligible for an SOE. She's not eligible for a statement of eligibility. So, that same pathway that you've heard me explain before is not available to her. I had hoped to come here this evening based on her experience to ask for the emergency authorization which the board has the right to approve to give them one year of emergency authorization which is another avenue to give them that permit as I call it to to instruct special education doesn't come under that emergency authorization when I looked into the fine print what >> they cannot she does not qualify for that so the good news is this I have spoken to Susan Blake myself and we've developed a plan. She does need to to renew her license and we will do that and we do feel very confident we will do that within the s first 60 to 80 days of that. The state is working with us. They're aware of her circumstances. She's not the first person to let a license lapse due to her personal choices. So I am asking you to still approve this woman this evening with the understanding that she will be getting her lensure within the first 60 to 80 days of of hire. And I know that that's an ask and I know the board very well but I hope that you understand that uh she is the most qualified clearly with her experience and we're very excited to have her join our team. Um but that is the hoop we have to jump through in order to to secure this position. I guess just out of curiosity and this has nothing to do with who's applying for the job but when you're speaking with Susan at the at the state did she offer any other pathways up besides so that certificate of eligibility >> that is the pathway she must take at this point. >> Okay that's unfortunate they had not thought of that particular >> I know so um you said it'll take approximately 60 to 80 days. >> Yep. So I can explain a little bit about it. So just like same process you do actually she has to submit her 75 hours yeah uh 40 in the core content area uh core general area and then 35 in in the special education area and so we've developed a plan >> uh to get her those hours and that just takes a little time in order to get those hours but once she has those hours then she can get the reertification almost instantly is how once the hours >> the state I believe the state's moved away from ours >> uh This this was a conversation I had this week with >> Susan. We are not hours based. >> No, you don't have to be hours based. You can be portfolio based. >> But this was this was the quickest way >> to to >> in this particular circumstance to get because she had not been working on a portfolio. >> So you'll be surprised by what I have to say. Um >> every circumstance different really. >> It is and and she was certified. She hasn't lost her ability to be certified. She wasn't her certification wasn't revoked, >> correct? >> But she let it lapse because she wasn't working the school. That's a very different situation. And I fully support her coming in uh and hopefully staying with us uh by getting her certification working because whenever she was still working, she still is the same person with the same skills. She may need ex. So >> it's different when they're not certified in the particular area, but she was certified and it would be different if it was revoked. We would not be hiring her, but >> it wasn't. So I'm in support of this. Surprise. Surprise. >> No. Every circumstance is >> it makes sense. >> All right. So I would need a nomination for her. >> I'm I'm glad that we discussed it. I'm I'm still disappointed that the state doesn't have some some distinguished path for special ed educators like they do for everybody else. >> So, what are we bringing her in as a long-term sub? >> Uh, so no, what I would do is what I've done in the situation before when people are don't have their SOE until they get their SOE, I bring them in at the BA1. They're not a long-term tub. are brought in at that level and then once they have their it's it's an incentive to get their certification and their permit to to do it and then I adjust them to their appropriate step and appropriate experience. >> So that's interesting because she'll be on a contract. >> She would be on contract >> and potentially I'm not saying this is going to happen but potentially she could go more than 80 days. >> Potentially she could. So, >> I get the risk and I understand the risk, but I have to say the team was very impressed with her >> and it's a risk that obviously clearly I'm willing to take the recommendation I'm making to you. Yeah. >> Uh to move forward with this this >> applicant to secure her. >> All right. Can I get a motion to approve street as the EMHs special education teacher? >> So moved. Moved >> by Julie. >> Second by Courtney. All those in favor say I. I >> I oppose. I passes 4 Z. Congratulations. >> The next one is I'm not quite clear on how to pronounce her name yet either. Uh uh Don Maliki. >> Mleti. >> Mleti. That sounds about right. Thank you. >> Uh so uh this is not looking for nomination. I am just looking to uh inform you where we're at. So we have made a selection for the library media aid uh uh paraprofessional position. She has not signed the contract yet. She is coming out of state but I didn't and and normally paraprofessional positions do not come to the board but I had an inquiry about this. So I just wanted to put share uh the resume and the qualifications in there and we feel very confident and we're just uh finalizing the the contract with with Dawn uh to fill that position. Um I mean I think you made the right decision to bring it to us because given that there was a lot of discussion around cutting that position that is why when we I think it's helpful for us to know if you were not able to fill it you were not able to. I'm happy that you are and I think that um we just need to continually revisit how we're doing things and what the expectations are. if I'm not mistaken, this person will be split between EMHs and EEES and um making sure that um they're valuable employees to the school, that they're busy, that they're, you know, interacting with kids, that if the library is empty, what else are they do can they be doing so that we can make use of >> the people that we have? >> So, and as you can see from her resume, she has a great deal of experience. >> Awesome. uh in schools and so we're very excited to be moving her forward. >> Excellent. Anything else, Bill? >> Uh the only other one and and I know uh Prussa was updating you beforehand. The only other personnel is that we are trying to secure first grade uh long-term sub uh for maternity leave at the start of the school year. We have a couple. We also have one at EMHs starting September 8th and then also uh CREK occupational therapist in October. So we will be having some long-term subs that we will be hiring for due to some maternity leave. Um and I will be bringing those fourth once we have those names secured. We thought we had one as some of you heard earlier but >> uh it fell through and unfortunately I don't have any names for you at this time. So, >> that is one of them. >> Uh, unfortunately, I don't have a Spanish uh long-term sub to discuss at this point. As always, uh we will be looking at plans B, C, and D. Uh if we cannot secure someone with u Spanish language, so I'll I'll throw this out there. I think we should put that on as one of the topics for the retreat to get some feedback from the rest of the staff on what what world language or world language solutions might be potentially more viable for us going forward. >> We do tend to talk about foreign language every year. >> It does seem to come up uh and it's always around staffing and making adjustments based off of staffing that we have or don't have. It it is >> well it's hard to get just like special ed staff. It's hard to get. >> They're they're it's like family and consumer science, foreign language, and special ed are hard, >> um jobs to fill. >> So, >> so, uh I can come back prepared and we can talk about it as as a a treat agenda item. >> that's all I have for personnel. >> All right. Uh so, moving on to financial business and district services. So, as I just started to pass around the table, um, currently our audit has been formalized. They still have things they do on their back end, so we don't have the official audit report yet. Um, but today I completed the DOE2, which isn't due to September, but it's done because the books are audited, so I'm passing it around the table. And so in regards to that would be the year end and how we actually ended our year. So it's always super confusing. I try to make it as less confusing as possible. So bear with me and if you get confused just ask questions. >> So as a reminder to public because I I always everyone always says you're returning this money to the town. Obviously you didn't need it in the budget. I always want to remind everyone that if we start the year with a fund balance that offsets the assessment. So if we return money to the state every year it creates a fund balance and when we come to the taxpayers and say you need to pay for state and local education tax we have this pool of money in which we've retained that you don't have to pay and it offsets the assessment. Let's start there. So last year, >> this is the this is the former like two and a half percent and up. Yes. >> Well, it's part of it, but it it like it compounds, right? Year after year after year, we give back money. We're not never giving back money. We're holding >> So the town doesn't have to give us as much money every month in assessment. So like last year we held back $2 million which sounds huge but really it was like minus trust and minus the 2.5 and all of that. So >> you have this retaining fund balance you start your year helps the taxes. Keeping that in mind, this year's year-end fund balance is 1,981,919. Sounds crazy, but last year's was 2 million. So, it's gone down. >> Sorry. 1 million how much? >> Uh 1,981,91945. >> And that's not the final number yet, Ben. >> Okay. But I'm just gonna reduce the fund balance, the 2.5 that you authorize us to keep, >> which is 486,491,000. >> Then we're going to reduce that by the $375,000 that you authorized us to give to the trust capital reserves. >> Capital reserve trust fund. That's correct. And then we had some additional year-end expenses for $238,678, which that money was the approved expenses for um year end surplus money. Exactly what those budgets were. Um >> wasn't the shed stuff that was >> saving? No, that was that was >> that potentially like the ban some of the other things that came in. >> No, it was project approved but they hadn't been completed yet. So, we have to have pull done like aside because they weren't doing uh the >> panel. >> No, the exhaust fans, sorry, the exhaust fans and that work. So, that's money that you approved to be spent. However, the work hasn't been completed. So they get kind of held into a special fund. >> Wasn't that exhaust fan though the impact fees? >> Not the exhaust fans. >> No. Okay. >> Okay. Those were the additional rebate. >> The exhaust fans. >> Yes. Rebate money. >> Rebate. >> Rebate money which is considered revenue for us. >> But the expense itself, the project hasn't happened. So you have to fold them in approved project line which is that money and then until we get invoice we can't expense it gets held and you've approved the purchase. So bringing that 68,4 >> the 2.5% >> 486 to the 2.5% that you allow us to hold as a fund balance, a retained fund balance and it's for an emergency situation. It could be in the roof case and all of a sudden we're in a situation that we're stuck. you've allowed us to ret retain that money not as a taxpayers for additional money. We have this pool of money that we could use in the case of emergency is what comes. Um so the remaining fund balance is 881,75 $750,000 which is going back to taxpayers at the end of the year. Again, not literally going back to taxpayers. It starts to offsets what we collect from taxpayers. >> In that fund balance, >> the important thing >> Oh, she's so excited. She just can't hold herself back. Wait till you hear the rest of the news. >> So, the important thing to think about is every time we give back this money, everyone's always like, "Well, if you didn't use $881,000, why do you keep increasing your budget?" I'm like, but it's because we have this extra pool of money that we start the year with. So to point out, our approved budget was 24,775,363. Okay. We spent 25 million. I know that's really bad. 196 387. So we overspent our budget by $439,000. Not really though. >> Really, we're really back. But we're not because the rebate revenue was $432,700. So we over spent our budget by $6,300. >> That's the tightest margin in the >> It's like five years. >> We literally spent every penny and we had more revenue. So even though we overspent our budget by $6,000, we had revenue from athletics and everything else that we really did. But that's how tight our budget is and how on the dollar we almost are to have a $24 million in over spending by $6,000 is just >> I think having that breakdown and that that explanation is going to come in very handy when talking with >> she could share this with you if you wish. Yeah. And I will and I will and I always I want to explain it to you guys and then I will put it out in a public document. But I always feel it's important to share it with you before it becomes a public document that's shared out because >> if I can explain it to you then maybe publicly understand. >> that's just always my way. But to sit here and think that we over death budget by $6,000 like >> well we did some big things too this year. >> We did some great things. >> So I mean did great things. >> It's it's exciting >> even though we over spent it. We literally spent all the revenue and then yeah that's a tight thing. >> Very exciting. I'm >> you know I I don't I don't know if we do this but like it would be kind of cool to like if we did like the year in review and I know we might do that around budget but like right now like here we are we're we're entering into a new SK school year. We're in a new budget right now already been approved but like what what was accomplished in 2526 in in in real in in parent language? Where did your tax money go? What did we do? Did we add staff? Did we do what do we do to the fields? What if we bought a van? Like I'm not saying put it all together regardless of where it came from, capital improvement fund or special ed fund or 2.5 or fund balance. Just like a year where did your tax dollars go? We got a loader. We got, you know, we we all the things which I think all the departments could. We got some new uniforms. Who which teams got new uniforms? which you know uh teachers got a 3% raise you know whatever all that stuff like I think would be >> it would just be a nice message for people to see where that $24 million >> highlighting some of those things we didn't anticipate too like >> our little termite friend like that >> yeah issues >> why we retain those part >> no I think this paints a bigger picture and that's thanks to Christine and the board and our administration. >> Clearly, the past six years, we can paint a very good picture. Our our increases have and I pointed this out during budget season and it's more for if there's anyone watching, we've come below the town budget every year I've been here. Like, our increases have been below whatever the town increases have been. Uh and I think we're accomplishing a lot more with that money uh due to the efficiency and and and oversight that is being given uh to this and I think the trust is there by the way with the community and the in the in the budget committee and others as well because I think they're really seeing that we're good stewards. We're all good stewards of this. We're not spending frivolously and we're not increasing up out of but we are improving in those areas we need to improve upon in our facilities in our grounds and have never looked better and and and so that's thanks to the work that everyone has been doing. >> I just want to make sure that we obviously have had support on our budget over the years. I think that's a great way to continue that support is appreciated and here's what we're actually doing with it. We'll work on that. Thank you for the suggestion. Yeah, >> I mean even just go out through a parent square or it could go out um I mean it would be good for our parents to know but somehow we need to let our other community members know and I don't know how >> I think having Jake send that out through the town >> people who sign up for the town alert >> we can definitely the relationship >> infographic >> she's got one >> the journey of district of our district funds I love it. >> Wow. Um, [laughter] did you make did you make the one that says we're hiring pair of professionals? >> No. Sarah's made that idea. Sarah made that. It was excellent. No, it is excellent. It was an excellent infographic. >> Same same idea. >> No, we put that on indeed and every not that the pair professional one you're talking about. >> But I can add like Yeah. >> Christine, after we add the 375 to the capital reserve, what will we have in that bucket total? if you don't know it right now. >> I do. I do. She can find it pretty quick. >> I I have You put me on the spot enough, right? But >> listen, I've been made fun of not passing in homework today on everything else. >> I know complaining about library materials. [laughter] >> Next time we'll use you as the good example. >> That would be wrong, too, so it's okay. [laughter] All right. Well, >> I will find that number. >> That's fine. It's not perfect for >> I will I know the exact just I have to find where I kept my sheet. >> You and Robin or Ben, you were on the two-way communication one, too. So, you could >> Yeah, I update on that. So, I I can't remember the exact numbers off the top of my head, so I apologize about that. But we did we did meet with uh police chief, fire chief, town uh manager, a couple of selectman to discuss where we're at with uh the two-way communications project. Uh Christine uh pretty much led the charge with a lot of the information about that. Uh we've we've gotten the bulk of the work done and now came to securing funding for us to move forward with two-way and uh Motorola corrects to come in and finish the the final implementation drawings and plans so that they could purchase the equipment and actually come and get the work done. Uh so we've we've come to an agreement uh with the town that we're paying I want to say it works out to about roughly 60% of the project and the town is going to pay 40%. Part of that was just coming to an an understanding of we wanted to be able to get this secured now to get the work done as soon as possible because 2A is pretty much the only company around doing the work and they're swamped. So, if we didn't have the funding to say we're ready to go, this project will probably still be on the back burner in another year. Um, and the town uh said they were they were pretty reasonably sure that with what they've gotten their fund balances where they were at that they could commit to that uh without being an issue. So, we're moving forward with that. Christine, I believe, has already had the conversations with Motorola and 28 to have them back out to do the final stages of the final impleation, which sounds crazy to say it like that. Um, but do we have a an install date from them at this point? Um, so the lastun >> um >> they are it's going to be a little bit but they they're going to be in the city. >> Okay. Which guy? >> They had to take the antenna specifics to Motorola obviously and then and then Motorola builds it and then and then then the install uh is kind of the process. >> We're still using impact fees for six. >> Correct. That is what absolutely we are. Um and I believe and Christine can certainly correct me if I have the number, but I believe the the total that we put together to finance is 275,000. >> Yes. So 275,000 is what they're anticipating. Obviously once they get up on the roof it could change it. That's kind of like the worst case scenario is 275 but it might come a little bit under. Um so Braden from two way the last communication that we had was we signed a letter of intent saying yes the funds are reserved and we're going to go ahead. So they are now proceeding with expensing the design type and sending it out off to Mortal War. Um so we're just waiting for Motorola to really just confirm the dates now that we reserved funding is our next step. So Motorola hasn't actually set the dates yet, but we should hear from them soon hopefully. >> And so it was a it was fairly short and and productive conversation. I say everybody was very cordial uh when we were working through it and I think it was good discussion on how we arrive at the funding that we did. Uh we had a couple other side conversations around that briefly talking about elections where we we we've all we've all settled and agreed that it's going to be where we hold them continue to hold them in the ODM and we're just not going to continue fight. The benches are there. They look very nice. >> Oh, the new ones. >> The new benches are there. >> Let's see. And we also had a a short discussion about the property that uh we became aware of. Uh I did reach out to to Jake to try and put something together to have all of us go and he got back to me like trying to get all the segment and all you guys together is probably just going to happen. Uh so in an attempt to try and get two things to together and at least go take a look. Uh Bill and Courtney and I uh were able to get together on Sunday the 3 uh and go out and take a a brief look at our land uh that we're now aware of and see if there was going to be any kind of potential usage. Uh I will say I'm also going to take off officer McBride to take uh to take some drone footage. So, I am going to reach out to him to see about having some drone footage taken from the river level and kind of do a fly up over [clears throat] just because from where we were, it's easily a 50 to 60 foot drop from where it's level and I say level loosely down to the river. So, I think the initial takeaway from it was the odds on it being something usable for like a track field, any type of activity, u building type center, anything like that is not feasible. the amount of dirt work and and permits probably required to do that would be substantial. Um, we did bound potentially maybe look into seeing if we could have a solar company come in or something like that. Maybe sell some energy back to Eversource or Unil to offset our power bill for the school district. But that obviously something be a further discussion at some point down the line. We still haven't had anyone from the Boy Scouts come in to talk about any of this either. So, we were just spitballing a little bit and I asked Bill to uh reach out and find out what kind of responsibility and liability do we have with our insurance company now that we're aware that we have this property. >> And I haven't heard from Prime Night yet, but I will get that for you. Whether we need to post it or not post it now that we're aware of it. Uh there was some very ancient uh use of the area with uh u uh some some fire pits and so forth, but clearly it has not been used in any recent history uh back there. So I I did get one update. I saw Jake at the National Night Out and he had asked if we'd seen the well out there and I said yes, we did actually identify that. So there's potentially maybe there's there's water out there already, which would be kind of nice. Um, so obviously we still need to have some further discussions about that. We need to at a minimum meet with the Boy Scout leadership as well and get some of their input on this. Um, but it's it seems like it's going to kind of continue to be a what's a what's a most responsible use case scenario for this then? Uh, unfortunately a lot of uh growth site. >> We'll just add on my thoughts regardless if as you know I would still like to explore the options of us but who knows in the future what we'll be able to utilize that later >> I think that's everything that came out of the twoe >> y >> uh do you have anything else Christine >> just the your answer to your question Matt so once we put in the 37500 that was approved. The building grounds capital reserve fund will be at $551,482. >> Can you say that again? I'm sorry. $551,482 is what we would in the capital reserve and we were planning on using it for paving was our thoughts, >> but we were able to pay for that which was the additional money um in that balance to it was the paving project that we're paying for it out of >> last year's funds instead of having a tip in the capital and the paving were the two things that were in that 280 >> is still unslated, but um the we had to wait for ceiling and with all the the seal coating >> and the rain >> and the rain has pushed that off unfortunately. >> I can't wait. >> I want to park right over by the sign at the corner and watch. >> Yeah. So, there'll be another update unfortunately coming um from Paris Square for me about the pave. Um >> we should dated it got pushed out a little bit more. So, as much as we were hoping for it to the seal coding to be done next week, it's looking like probably the beginning the following week. Um, so, um, it would be cool if possible to to have the drone video, the the tank >> in action. >> I don't think we have a drone. >> No, I know. But if somebody There are people that are like drone lover does and I think Mr. Sus might have. >> Yeah. some people like are really into it and like they like to Yeah. So, >> and I thought of one other update which I forgot during my report. Uh the and and Ben coincidentally got to see them walking by as well. So, we did inspect the lockers. >> The lockers are are being constructed. >> Oh. Oh, the the lockers for the ones that I should not be building. They are high quality. I have to say the donation was excellent. Um um they rallied a lot of parent support and student support and they are physically in uh the the locker room at this point putting on the the final touches of of trim work and uh painting them is is the next step. So they were high quality. They they were very structurally sound. the team and the coaches were very excited about uh this process and uh so we're very uh uh excited about that. So I have accepted them clearly and now I'm informing the board of that which is our our you see them. >> Oh that is so nice. Where did you see that? >> Um one of the vol um so just to be clear because Robin's not here and she made a lot of um she had a lot of good information. We don't still need to accept them. >> You do not >> because >> two two different things happened here. One was the policy change where you gave >> because it's under that. So it's under that that piece that is really what's what's driving it. Um under the old policy you would have had to accept them. Under the new policy you can >> but if they were over that we would then once they were installed we would have to then accept them as our as our school property. But you are now >> I have the authority to do that because of the price point of this project. >> Cuz Robin was talking a lot. We weren't accepting the money. We were the donation. And that was made very clear. I had a couple of email threads with the coaches and otherwise. It's like look, we're not accepting them. You can accept the carpenter donating his time to build them. That's up to the boosters to do that. We accepted the finished. >> Yeah. Awesome. >> Yeah. I was fortunate enough to be walking by and saw them in in the back of uh the gentleman's work truck and I was like, "Oh, the new lockers are coming." >> Ben has eyes everywhere. He text me. I'm like, "How'd you see them?" He's like, "I'm walking by." [laughter] So, I hope that they are all excited to have those for the for the upcoming season. >> All right. Manifests. We got a bunch of them again, but it looks like a lot of them are gonna go together, which is so nice. >> Oh. No, I don't. No, I don't. I don't. I [laughter] don't want to do the minutes first. I want to do the manifest. I'm excited about them tonight. >> That's your prerogative. [laughter] >> All right. We'll start with the manifest. Uh, payroll deposited on July 17, 2026 in the amount of $11,586.83. Payroll deposit on July 17, 2026 in the amount of $123,37063. payroll deposited on July 17, 2026. The amount of $85,94365 >> 65,000. >> I'm so sorry. 65,000. Thank you so much. Time for me to pick my 65,000. No. 94365. Thank you. Uh payroll deposit on July 17th, 2026 in the amount of $3,752 83 93 cents. Good god. All right. You know what? I'm gonna cheat because my eyes are just not playing well with me tonight. >> Our ears are not playing well with your fans. I can't >> hear like I keep giving really weird looks, but I'm trying to reach you. >> So, I apologize. That last payroll deposit was $3,752.93. And last month for July 17th, 2026, payroll deposited in the amount of $291,36866. Can I get a motion to approve? Move >> by Courtney. >> That all passes. 40. All right. Let's see. Oh, I can't do these two together. Accounts payable deposit on July 24th, 2026 in the amount of $323,420.74. Make a motion to approve. >> I passes 40. uh accounts payable deposited on July 29th of 2026 in the amount of $537,912. >> Moved by Julie. Second by Courtney. All those in favor say I. I. >> That passes 40. >> Payroll deposit. I'll take the last four all together. Payroll deposit on July 31st, 2026 in the amount of $111,62583. Payroll deposited on July 31st, 2026 in the amount of $123,37063. Payroll deposit on July 31st, 2026 in the amount of $67,857.16. the amount of $2,499. >> Moved by Juel. Second. Second by Matt. All those in favor say I. I. That passes 40. All right. Now we'll do the minutes. Uh, did anybody have any questions, comments, or concerns for the public minutes for July 18th? >> Yes. Nope, that wasn't July 18th. It was July 16th. >> 16. >> 16. Good God. I've been up way too long today. I I just want to applaud Dagy on the food um on how her note takingaking on the food services meal cost discussion cuz that was complicated and she was able to >> catch capture it cuz I even I was like wait no wait yes no okay so anyway that was really great um but at the very very end it says um it's got a wrong date um non-public session non-public meeting is scheduled for May 21st, 2026 following the public meeting. That was obviously from an old old notes. >> So that should say non-public because we did have one for July 16th, 2026. >> We will update that. >> That was it. >> Any other adjustments? Okay. Hearing none. Can I get a motion to approve the public meeting minutes for July 16th as amended? >> So move >> Second, Pass. And then another public for July 16th. >> No comments. >> I didn't remember seeing anything. All right. Any comments here? Anyone? No. Okay. All right. Uh, can I get a motion to approve the non public meeting minutes from July 16th? >> So, moved by Matt. >> All right. That passes 40. >> Uh, let's see. Uh, any board comments this evening? >> usually you call on us. I was waiting on who to start. I started with Bill before I started with Gord. I'll start with >> Okay. Um >> uh so I see that our next meeting is October 20th. >> August. >> August. Sorry. >> There's an there's an October I have an October note. >> Um will we be doing a walkthrough? >> Yes. So we we can schedule that. Um and you can we can do it on August 20th. I will say that that is still a bit early. So, I would make the recommendation and I have not talked to Josh yet. Um, but I would suggest that we do it later, not on August 20th. I don't think our buildings would be quite uh because that's still another >> two weeks. I I can appreciate that. I just want to acknowledge >> that we are meeting on August 6th. We are then meeting next Thursday for the retreat. We then have another school board meeting. So that's a lot of schoolboard meetings in one month. >> It is. >> So the walk meetings in this past six less than you are the busiest board. >> I I like I like these meetings. However, I also like my summer. >> Um so I I'm open for suggestions. I understand that it's a it's a quite a a commitment from the board, but as always, we we do appreciate those walkthroughs. >> Yes. and it has resulted in again collaboration and understanding of projects, future projects and where we're at. So we're thinking August 31st if possible. It's it's the day before school starts of September 1st if that is is amenable to the board. >> What about moving the meeting to August 27th? Do we have to meet on August 20th? >> We do not have to meet on August. That is correct. I again not that I mind meeting but it's a commitment every Thursday for the next for >> for like Julie. >> Yeah. So I mean >> you know I don't know if and maybe we don't have to decide tonight. >> I have no objection to it people they want to look at their calendar but >> uh we're not going to have the principles because we just had them come >> correct >> and there's nothing time >> sensitive >> sensitive. No I like your suggestion if it works for others. I would I guess and maybe that we could do that through an email and it would have to be updated on the >> I would prefer you just either >> can you text Robin then? >> Do you want us Do you want us to decide tonight? Is that what you're saying? >> Possible you could, but >> I'm in for the 27th. >> I would be in because I can't be here for the 20th. >> Oh, that would work better for me. >> It's my mother-in-law's birthday, but she'll be okay. She'll forgive you. >> I was going to make her favorite thing that I made. >> We have seats available. >> Yeah, she come here. [laughter] I could >> Well, here's here's here's here's the uh Do you want to meet twice or do you want to meet once? >> Well, see, that's the problem. I do very much want to meet. >> So, August 27th, >> it will be fun. I'll make her macaroni and cheese on >> 26. >> Did it work for you? Yeah, I think we can make that work. >> Well, then then uh we will make sure that we uh does 5 5:30 for the start the walk through. >> 5:15. >> Yeah, that's up to you. >> You know, I've been on now four walkthroughs. Some have been very long. Like I like highlight, but like when we saw the painting and we saw the things and and we hear all the things that were done over the summer, we don't need to see every classroom. Yeah, there's not going to be a ton of huge updates this year. Um, but one that will be a big update will be the capital gym floor. >> but it's not going to be done 26 to 27th. >> Do you know what you just did? >> All right. So, our next meeting will be August 27th, 5:15. Um why don't we to for sake of of no confusion we meet right here at EES and start where wherever and we'll have the highlight uh ready for you uh to show our >> I guess you would we need to also check with Josh to make sure he's available. >> I think it would be fine. >> And then we're having a our public meeting >> then the public meeting immediately follow. >> Okay. Perfect. >> I say we confirm if there's conflicts I'll let you know. But let's put it on the books and confirm and out of >> Sorry. I know you almost got out of a meeting. >> No, that actually especially the walker meeting. That's always my >> um the other comment I had was I just wanted to bring it to your attention. Matt shared uh the budget committee schedule with us. Thank you. >> Um however, there is a conflict. Um it says Wednesday, October 7th, budget committee meeting, building administrators and special ed. As of right now, we have par negotiation scheduled for that night. >> So, so we're gonna Yes. Par I think that date was one of the last dates like if we needed it, but I think we should. >> So, at our next par meeting, we will negot see if >> Yeah, we can change that date. >> I gave it to and then the only other um comment because I'm looking at the budget committee. So, it looks like we have two meetings um to go to. Wednesday, October 7th and then also Wednesday, November 4th. Um we talked last year about how the process because it was different and it changed. So I just want to revisit the fact that it would be helpful in addition to those which were encouraged to attend um but we do not make comments that we some sometimes schedule an opportunity for us to ask questions about the budget to the respective people. So, I've put some thought into this and and um either we could we could meet prior to that obviously and give it to you because it's already it's given to you and and the budget committee with the new process. Yeah. >> At the same time and then some of those questions you might have >> you don't they don't come up until you hear the presentation. >> Right. >> So, we're we're we're we're at your mercy. We're more than willing to answer those questions. Whether you want to do it more informally, you want to schedule another time where or add it to one of our like we've done before where we've added an hour pre-board meeting where it's budget >> questions or thoughts or >> or it's part of our board meeting. We have the first um so I mean >> or maybe so here's so maybe after October 7th. >> there's a month between October 7th. So, like what if we broke it up? And so, uh, they're going to present to Oh, there's three. There's three meetings. Oh, god. Um, Thursday, September 24th. >> So, I You have the budget committee schedule. That's just the budget committee and what they're doing. There's an official ballot timeline that I usually share with you that I did share with you at some point, but because the budget committees has kind of gone to the racet. But so Friday, September 18th is when major budget changes are due to the SA. Wednesday, September 23rd is when the templates are due to the SE. That's all. You don't really be involved in that. Thursday, September 24th, which is our regular scheduled schoolboard meeting. We're going to open it with a review of the budget at 6 p.m. So on the 24th, you'll get the first look at the budget. You'll see where we're at. It hasn't been the budget committee yet. We're going to just open it up for discussion. You look at it. There's anything popping, I will send it to you before the 24th. Um, so >> I think she's asking for along the way, >> right? But then I'm just saying like so then the email goes to the budget committee on the 28th. They'll receive it and you'll have a chance to look at it, ask some questions kind of how I'm thinking. Do you want >> Is there an opportunity for us to uh speak with the different departments? That's what I'm asking for. So when I have questions about EMHs or EES or special ed again, we listen to it and then we rumble it out, write some notes up and then and then what I think that's >> we do it during one of our normal scheduled board meetings, whether it's before or part of the agenda, whatever we wish to do, I think would be an opportunity to to do that. Plus, we we do still have our review time after the budget committee has gone through and done their several sessions and we have two or three sessions of our own with with the departments to be able to go through and say, "All right, we're this is some of the direction the budget committee gave us. Do we want to do anything else?" And so, I think that also gives us some of our time. If there are some things that we were hoping to maybe see in the budget that we didn't see, right, >> we can we can talk about that then. I think certainly if there are some some more pressing things that we're aware of or that we as a board collectively feel like we'd like to see this go in ahead of time that we can we can push some of that stuff along before the end of September so that as the budgets are being developed like hey have this in the back of your mind like here's a couple of guidelines and we definitely already feel like we want want to know that we're hitting this before it even goes out of here. >> Christina, what date did you say in September? >> Uh September 28th. So again, it's a super tight and I know it doesn't look at it and you think, "Oh, there's so much time." And it's just it's such a quick turnaround that they're getting we're not even getting their budgets until September 18th. >> So we're meeting on the third and the 17th of September. Correct. >> Yeah. So it wouldn't be >> but they they wouldn't even have us >> they're stuffy. So the next opportunity I saw was the September 24th that by that point they would have gotten us their templates um and so we can start looking at them on the 24th before they go out to the committee on the 28th. It's everyone complains every department everyone says it's so tight but it is it is quick >> there's not much wiggle room. So that was the only spot I could find to present it to you prior to it going to the special meeting committee was that 24th meeting. >> But are we meeting on September 24th? >> I thought I thought we were the third and the 17th. >> No, I think I put that in >> as an additional. >> So we have parent negotiations that night on September 24th 5:30. So, I think I added some scheduling things to speaking of which too the in one in the employee handbook was a list of all the school board meetings. Um, and I actually looked at I checked and they're pretty accurate, but if you could send that out as a or Sam or whoever could send that as a separate document and then if there's extra meetings because between parent negotiations and budget meetings and you know our life and you know games and things like that, >> I think to have it all is helpful. Yeah, I think I added the September 24th meeting for you guys to have that opportunity to review the budget before the budget meeting. >> So that that unless we change the par negotiations then which not >> probably easier to or we don't want that review of the budget. I mean, I definitely do. I definitely felt last year that there was a missing I didn't mind it the beginning part, but then there was a disconnect between us and the school personnel to be able to ask because we're having to ask everything through you and then they have to rewatch a meeting and can we just say like, okay, we're going to spend an hour and we'll talk to food service and technology and then we'll spend another hour or maybe we just spend two hours and we just table some other things. So if this is tenative, I mean you could if you wanted to keep the parrot negotiations on 24th, we could do the 23rd. That's when they actually get us and stuff, but we have enough really I mean I don't care. It's just we were >> I think they're talking about later in the process anyways is my understanding from what I'm hearing. So you can ask questions of of the department. >> I the parent negotiations was you know a lot of people's input on when they're free. So I doesn't matter. I mean I'm confined to the lake but other people have commitments. So >> let us double check this tomorrow and get back to you and we are aware that when we talked about that that you wanted some opportunity. >> Um that's all I got. Sorry >> much time. >> All right. Fantastic. Bill, do you have anything all set? Thank you. Christine >> good. So, I I just want to say again, thank you to everybody for taking the the the dedicated time to read through all the handbooks and the and the plans and everything. It was a lot of reading of the other stuff for our nonpublic speaking this evening that need to be read through. So, I appreciate everybody taking the time and effort uh and getting that done uh or as much of it as possible for tonight's a lot. So, that does not go unrecognized. Uh hopefully everybody enjoyed the last week of July when we didn't have school board meetings or anything going on. I hope everybody had a chance to kind of get away, unplug, unwind a little bit and uh couple more weeks of summer vacation left. >> It's going fast. >> Lots of time left. >> There is lots of >> There's lots of time left. >> All right. So with that, break it up. Our next meeting is going to be scheduled on August 27th, 2026 at 6 PM here at the Eping Elementary Media Center. Um, we are having a non-public session this evening. So, we will be going into non-public under RSA 91A32C. Uh, and then we will be adjourning the public meeting immediately following. So, take a roll call vote to go into non-public session. >> Knight I. >> Well, I >> thank you. Good night. >> Have a good night. We'll shut this off, but I think we can just stay right here. I was just going to say >> there's no there's no uh and just to be clear um I know you went into nonpublic cuz I know you have your own thing to discuss around next steps on the hearing.