06/17/26 NRPC Full Commission / MPO Meeting

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Does anybody have any
Does anybody have any changes or concerns?
changes or concerns?
changes or concerns? >> Yes. uh on page four
>> Yes. uh on page four
>> Yes. uh on page four 5A
here really was talking about the
here really was talking about the regional plan and it says ma represented
regional plan and it says ma represented
regional plan and it says ma represented the regional plan is looking for NRPC
the regional plan is looking for NRPC
the regional plan is looking for NRPC feedback not feedback the regional plan
feedback not feedback the regional plan
feedback not feedback the regional plan that's an action of the
that's an action of the
that's an action of the >> y
>> y
>> y want to change that in two places there
>> can you repeat five what I'm sorry 5A.
>> can you repeat five what I'm sorry 5A. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. >> With the MPL.
>> With the MPL.
>> With the MPL. >> Yep.
>> And then I have one more.
>> And then I have one more. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. >> Uh so on page four under I little I
>> Uh so on page four under I little I
>> Uh so on page four under I little I tenhave. I believe I said the school
tenhave. I believe I said the school
tenhave. I believe I said the school budget did pass where it had not passed
budget did pass where it had not passed
budget did pass where it had not passed in previous years. It's not did pass,
in previous years. It's not did pass,
in previous years. It's not did pass, it's did pass.
Right. Thank you.
Right. Thank you. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, so uh on page four, the section
>> So, so uh on page four, the section
>> So, so uh on page four, the section L that includes my comments.
L that includes my comments.
L that includes my comments. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Um I would add a colon between the 72
>> Um I would add a colon between the 72
>> Um I would add a colon between the 72 and 81 because there is no RFA 72 81.
and 81 because there is no RFA 72 81.
and 81 because there is no RFA 72 81. >> That will be pass a lot of things.
>> That will be pass a lot of things.
>> That will be pass a lot of things. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, what's the actual RSA supposed to
So, what's the actual RSA supposed to
So, what's the actual RSA supposed to be?
be?
be? >> 72.
>> Right. Any other comments or changes?
>> Right. Any other comments or changes? >> Yeah, it look like
>> Yeah, it look like
>> Yeah, it look like >> I will move to uh accept the amended uh
>> I will move to uh accept the amended uh
>> I will move to uh accept the amended uh the NRPC full commission me uh minutes
the NRPC full commission me uh minutes
the NRPC full commission me uh minutes from June. No, no, not for
from June. No, no, not for
from June. No, no, not for >> May.
>> May.
>> May. April.
April.
April. >> April.
>> April.
>> April. >> From April.
>> I have a first. Do I have a second?
>> I have a first. Do I have a second? >> Well, I'll let them decide who that was.
>> Well, I'll let them decide who that was.
>> Well, I'll let them decide who that was. All right. Any other discussion?
All right. Any other discussion?
All right. Any other discussion? >> Right. All those in Oh, roll call.
>> All right. Roll call. So, who I believe
>> All right. Roll call. So, who I believe is on roll call right now is Chris
is on roll call right now is Chris
is on roll call right now is Chris Constantino.
Constantino.
Constantino. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And I believe William Rose is the river.
>> And I believe William Rose is the river.
>> And I believe William Rose is the river. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Okay. [clears throat]
>> Okay. [clears throat]
>> Okay. [clears throat] >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> All right. Let's go around the room.
>> All right. Let's go around the room.
>> All right. Let's go around the room. >> Hi. How are you?
>> Hi. How are you?
>> Hi. How are you? >> Hi. Y I
>> Hi. Y I
>> Hi. Y I >> Yep. Next.
>> Yep. Next.
>> Yep. Next. >> Hi.
>> Hi.
>> Hi. >> Oh,
>> Oh,
>> Oh, >> yeah. Will loot. I
>> yeah. Will loot. I
>> yeah. Will loot. I >> I a
>> I a
>> I a >> Yes. I
>> Yes. I
>> Yes. I >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Hi.
>> Hi.
>> Hi. >> I wasn't here.
>> I wasn't here.
>> I wasn't here. >> I
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All right.
All right. Have that.
Have that.
Have that. >> All right. Um next is item four, the MO
>> All right. Um next is item four, the MO
>> All right. Um next is item four, the MO policy committee.
policy committee.
policy committee. Am I handing this to Matt?
Am I handing this to Matt?
Am I handing this to Matt? >> Well, we're going to
have So, we have a tip amendment and
have So, we have a tip amendment and that's a public hearing. So, we need to
that's a public hearing. So, we need to
that's a public hearing. So, we need to call that for
call that for
call that for >> open public hearing. All right.
>> open public hearing. All right.
>> open public hearing. All right. I open the public hearing at 708.
>> Great. So,
>> Great. So, um
um
um >> Hey, William, can you can you see this?
>> Hey, William, can you can you see this?
>> Hey, William, can you can you see this? >> I can. All right.
>> I can. All right.
>> I can. All right. All right.
All right. So, we're gonna talk about
All right. So, we're gonna talk about PIP amendment FA
PIP amendment FA
PIP amendment FA 2028
2028
2028 improvement program.
All right. So most of you have seen this
All right. So most of you have seen this before. This this is what we're going to
before. This this is what we're going to
before. This this is what we're going to talk about
talk about
talk about so far
so far
so far with this amendment
with this amendment
with this amendment threshold. Remind you they are
threshold. Remind you they are
threshold. Remind you they are projects that are the local projects
projects that are the local projects
projects that are the local projects that are part of this amendment. There
that are part of this amendment. There
that are part of this amendment. There are only three of them. Today we'll talk
are only three of them. Today we'll talk
are only three of them. Today we'll talk about the staff recommendation and then
about the staff recommendation and then
about the staff recommendation and then we'll discuss whether to adopt.
we'll discuss whether to adopt.
we'll discuss whether to adopt. Uh I know you've all seen this graphic
Uh I know you've all seen this graphic
Uh I know you've all seen this graphic and we're not going to go through it
and we're not going to go through it
and we're not going to go through it again, but just a reminder that what
again, but just a reminder that what
again, but just a reminder that what we're what we're amending today is the
we're what we're amending today is the
we're what we're amending today is the 2020 the tip the four-year tip just a
2020 the tip the four-year tip just a
2020 the tip the four-year tip just a component of those other things.
component of those other things.
component of those other things. So the process so far um May 22nd the
So the process so far um May 22nd the
So the process so far um May 22nd the inter agency group met and that's for no
inter agency group met and that's for no
inter agency group met and that's for no state including NRP New Hampshire DOT
state including NRP New Hampshire DOT
state including NRP New Hampshire DOT uh some federal and state agencies EPA
uh some federal and state agencies EPA
uh some federal and state agencies EPA federal transit
federal transit
federal transit Hampshire dees so those are the that
Hampshire dees so those are the that
Hampshire dees so those are the that inter agency group we talked about this
inter agency group we talked about this
inter agency group we talked about this then um
then um
then um NRTC had a 10-day public comment period
NRTC had a 10-day public comment period
NRTC had a 10-day public comment period Friday the 5th of June was day before
Friday the 5th of June was day before
Friday the 5th of June was day before yesterday
yesterday
yesterday last week at our technical advisory
last week at our technical advisory
last week at our technical advisory committee meeting we discussed the um
committee meeting we discussed the um
committee meeting we discussed the um the amendment
the amendment
the amendment and at that meeting as a result of that
and at that meeting as a result of that
and at that meeting as a result of that discussion there was no objection to you
discussion there was no objection to you
discussion there was no objection to you guys going ahead and adopting this
guys going ahead and adopting this
guys going ahead and adopting this side and here we are uh tonight for the
side and here we are uh tonight for the
side and here we are uh tonight for the public hear
public hear
public hear >> yeah Were there any uh public comments?
>> yeah Were there any uh public comments?
>> yeah Were there any uh public comments? >> Good question. No,
>> Good question. No,
>> Good question. No, >> there weren't other communities um you
>> there weren't other communities um you
>> there weren't other communities um you know
know
know they acknowledged that they received
they acknowledged that they received
they acknowledged that they received the notifications and at TEC there were
the notifications and at TEC there were
the notifications and at TEC there were representatives from Nasha and Hudson
representatives from Nasha and Hudson
representatives from Nasha and Hudson there were no confidence but that's a
there were no confidence but that's a
there were no confidence but that's a good question and thank you.
good question and thank you.
good question and thank you. So there are various thresholds that
So there are various thresholds that
So there are various thresholds that trigger an amendment. I've highlighted
trigger an amendment. I've highlighted
trigger an amendment. I've highlighted the ones that are relevant tonight. So
the ones that are relevant tonight. So
the ones that are relevant tonight. So that's adding or removing a project or
that's adding or removing a project or
that's adding or removing a project or phase of a project and a significant
phase of a project and a significant
phase of a project and a significant change in the fouryear total cost of the
change in the fouryear total cost of the
change in the fouryear total cost of the project. Um, and if if you wanted to,
project. Um, and if if you wanted to,
project. Um, and if if you wanted to, you could there's a link there and I
you could there's a link there and I
you could there's a link there and I think in your memo
think in your memo
think in your memo that'll direct you to the full document
that'll direct you to the full document
that'll direct you to the full document on the DOT website that fully explains
on the DOT website that fully explains
on the DOT website that fully explains all the vision.
These are the projects.
These are the projects. First one is in Hudson. It's project
First one is in Hudson. It's project
First one is in Hudson. It's project 44228.
44228.
44228. It's on route 102 and it's basically a
It's on route 102 and it's basically a
It's on route 102 and it's basically a uh sidewalk project, pedestrian project
uh sidewalk project, pedestrian project
uh sidewalk project, pedestrian project filling gaps between uh ledge road is
filling gaps between uh ledge road is
filling gaps between uh ledge road is and alurn high school about 7,500 linear
and alurn high school about 7,500 linear
and alurn high school about 7,500 linear feet and potentially include uh you know
feet and potentially include uh you know
feet and potentially include uh you know crosswalks to be determined where and
crosswalks to be determined where and
crosswalks to be determined where and rectangular and flashing beacons like
rectangular and flashing beacons like
rectangular and flashing beacons like you see around and see a number of them
you see around and see a number of them
you see around and see a number of them on Main Street in Nshawa and some
on Main Street in Nshawa and some
on Main Street in Nshawa and some drainage improvements. Um, so this
drainage improvements. Um, so this
drainage improvements. Um, so this project is being added to the table and
project is being added to the table and
project is being added to the table and the reason is that the town requested
the reason is that the town requested
the reason is that the town requested their preliminary engineering phase has
their preliminary engineering phase has
their preliminary engineering phase has progressed. They're ready to to move
progressed. They're ready to to move
progressed. They're ready to to move forward with that. So currently
forward with that. So currently
forward with that. So currently uh PE is in 10ear plan in 2032
uh PE is in 10ear plan in 2032
uh PE is in 10ear plan in 2032 and the towns again they're ready to
and the towns again they're ready to
and the towns again they're ready to move forward and they request
move forward and they request
move forward and they request >> drinking the
>> drinking the
>> drinking the tip in fiscal year 2027.
tip in fiscal year 2027.
tip in fiscal year 2027. So adding a project to the tip
Um the next project is in Napa number
Um the next project is in Napa number 10136A. It's on it's on route 101A
10136A. It's on it's on route 101A
10136A. It's on it's on route 101A between uh Selena Avenue and Somerset
between uh Selena Avenue and Somerset
between uh Selena Avenue and Somerset Parkway. So that's just east of of
>> Boulevard. Thank you. Um okay and it
>> Boulevard. Thank you. Um okay and it goes at Somerset Parkway is also exh
goes at Somerset Parkway is also exh
goes at Somerset Parkway is also exh exit 8. So so that's the extent of the
exit 8. So so that's the extent of the
exit 8. So so that's the extent of the project.
project.
project. It could be though it's capacity it
It could be though it's capacity it
It could be though it's capacity it could be widening and also pedestrian
could be widening and also pedestrian
could be widening and also pedestrian and bike and transit improvements. Um
and bike and transit improvements. Um
and bike and transit improvements. Um so this project is being removed from
so this project is being removed from
so this project is being removed from the tip and
the tip and
the tip and and that's to reflect um
and that's to reflect um
and that's to reflect um draft 10 the new draft tenure plan the
draft 10 the new draft tenure plan the
draft 10 the new draft tenure plan the changes that have been made there. Um
changes that have been made there. Um
changes that have been made there. Um and so PE was what was in in the tip is
and so PE was what was in in the tip is
and so PE was what was in in the tip is being removed and then right away which
being removed and then right away which
being removed and then right away which would is in the 10-year plan is doesn't
would is in the 10-year plan is doesn't
would is in the 10-year plan is doesn't show up until 2030. that's outside of
show up until 2030. that's outside of
show up until 2030. that's outside of the tip. Um,
the tip. Um,
the tip. Um, and so
and so
and so since we're removing this project, we
since we're removing this project, we
since we're removing this project, we may need to do anything. It is still
may need to do anything. It is still
may need to do anything. It is still included in the 10-year plan. It's just
included in the 10-year plan. It's just
included in the 10-year plan. It's just moving out.
moving out.
moving out. And the final project is in Nasha 44354.
And the final project is in Nasha 44354.
And the final project is in Nasha 44354. This is um kind of a conjecture
This is um kind of a conjecture
This is um kind of a conjecture management project to include traffic
management project to include traffic
management project to include traffic hazing and tiding on 111A, 111, 11A and
hazing and tiding on 111A, 111, 11A and
hazing and tiding on 111A, 111, 11A and route 130. Um
route 130. Um
route 130. Um and so the proposed changes are rightway
and so the proposed changes are rightway
and so the proposed changes are rightway phase from the tip. um moving
phase from the tip. um moving
phase from the tip. um moving preliminary engineering to FY2027
preliminary engineering to FY2027
preliminary engineering to FY2027 and decreasing as a result of removing
and decreasing as a result of removing
and decreasing as a result of removing that phase the the estimated cost for
that phase the the estimated cost for
that phase the the estimated cost for the four years is dropping by 33%.
the four years is dropping by 33%.
the four years is dropping by 33%. Um so this and the reason for doing all
Um so this and the reason for doing all
Um so this and the reason for doing all this it's a municipality management
this it's a municipality management
this it's a municipality management project um and it's it's the
project um and it's it's the
project um and it's it's the construction or the
construction or the
construction or the project schedule is changing just to
project schedule is changing just to
project schedule is changing just to reflect city the city's prior
reflect city the city's prior
reflect city the city's prior priorities.
priorities.
priorities. >> So this um so removing the phase
>> So this um so removing the phase
>> So this um so removing the phase requires an amendment and a change from
requires an amendment and a change from
requires an amendment and a change from the amount approved of in the current
the amount approved of in the current
the amount approved of in the current tip of more than 25% also requires an
tip of more than 25% also requires an
tip of more than 25% also requires an amendment. So those are the three
amendment. So those are the three
amendment. So those are the three projects.
projects.
projects. >> Are there any questions on Yes.
>> Are there any questions on Yes.
>> Are there any questions on Yes. >> So the second natural project that was
>> So the second natural project that was
>> So the second natural project that was originally a CMAC project. Is that is at
originally a CMAC project. Is that is at
originally a CMAC project. Is that is at this point a CMAC just uh a source of
this point a CMAC just uh a source of
this point a CMAC just uh a source of funding and everything else is handled
funding and everything else is handled
funding and everything else is handled just like any other 10-year
just like any other 10-year
just like any other 10-year [clears throat] plan project.
[clears throat] plan project.
[clears throat] plan project. >> Yeah. It it will remain CMAC funding.
>> Yeah. It it will remain CMAC funding.
>> Yeah. It it will remain CMAC funding. It's just almost almost the the one
It's just almost almost the the one
It's just almost almost the the one difference is is that it's not uh if we
difference is is that it's not uh if we
difference is is that it's not uh if we get a CMA funded project, it's not
get a CMA funded project, it's not
get a CMA funded project, it's not necessarily added to the end the 10 year
necessarily added to the end the 10 year
necessarily added to the end the 10 year plan.
All right. So, here's our
All right. So, here's our recommendation. Um
recommendation. Um
recommendation. Um the the changes meet the air quality
the the changes meet the air quality
the the changes meet the air quality conformity requirements and sort of a
conformity requirements and sort of a
conformity requirements and sort of a little wrinkle this time.
little wrinkle this time.
little wrinkle this time. Um these projects are actually they're
Um these projects are actually they're
Um these projects are actually they're for the most part exempt from air
for the most part exempt from air
for the most part exempt from air quality conformity and and the reason is
quality conformity and and the reason is
quality conformity and and the reason is the sidewalk project non-motorized
the sidewalk project non-motorized
the sidewalk project non-motorized project doesn't
project doesn't
project doesn't implementing that project is not going
implementing that project is not going
implementing that project is not going to increase air pollution for motor
to increase air pollution for motor
to increase air pollution for motor vehicles because it's
vehicles because it's
vehicles because it's um also the the signalization project in
um also the the signalization project in
um also the the signalization project in NSHA is is for congestion management.
NSHA is is for congestion management.
NSHA is is for congestion management. theoretically it reduces
theoretically it reduces
theoretically it reduces conduction at intersects and so forth
conduction at intersects and so forth
conduction at intersects and so forth which improves air quality. So that's
which improves air quality. So that's
which improves air quality. So that's exactly exempt from air quality
exactly exempt from air quality
exactly exempt from air quality conformity and then the the project
conformity and then the the project
conformity and then the the project between compound world and parkway is
between compound world and parkway is
between compound world and parkway is not exempt except what we're removing is
not exempt except what we're removing is
not exempt except what we're removing is the preliminary engineering and PE
the preliminary engineering and PE
the preliminary engineering and PE phases are exempt. So
phases are exempt. So
phases are exempt. So we need that's the reason that we
we need that's the reason that we
we need that's the reason that we technically don't even have to do
technically don't even have to do
technically don't even have to do this.
this.
this. So action is required by this committee
So action is required by this committee
So action is required by this committee um to adopt and I think earlier we
um to adopt and I think earlier we
um to adopt and I think earlier we consulted with all our partners and well
consulted with all our partners and well
consulted with all our partners and well parents that this is
parents that this is
parents that this is so that's our recommendation.
so that's our recommendation.
so that's our recommendation. [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] Um and that someone could
Um and that someone could
Um and that someone could propose
propose
propose um time out. So any discussion and then
um time out. So any discussion and then
um time out. So any discussion and then we would close a hearing.
we would close a hearing.
we would close a hearing. >> Anybody else?
>> Anybody else?
>> Anybody else? [clears throat]
Um,
Um, so do just for process, do I close the
so do just for process, do I close the
so do just for process, do I close the public hearing if nobody wants to speak
public hearing if nobody wants to speak
public hearing if nobody wants to speak before the vote or before?
before the vote or before?
before the vote or before? >> So we have somebody come in. We heard
>> So we have somebody come in. We heard
>> So we have somebody come in. We heard about you earlier. Did Did you want to
about you earlier. Did Did you want to
about you earlier. Did Did you want to add anything or
add anything or
add anything or >> Okay. Want to make sure you're all set.
>> Okay. Want to make sure you're all set.
>> Okay. Want to make sure you're all set. >> All right. So hearing uh no more
>> All right. So hearing uh no more
>> All right. So hearing uh no more discussion then I will close the public
discussion then I will close the public
discussion then I will close the public hearing at 7:19.
>> All right.
>> All right. >> I'll move to recommend uh fiscal year
>> I'll move to recommend uh fiscal year
>> I'll move to recommend uh fiscal year 2025 to 2028 NRPC tip amendment five.
>> Second.
>> Second. Right. Last chance for discussion.
>> So I we'll do a roll call vote.
>> So I we'll do a roll call vote. Uh, Chris Constantino.
Uh, Chris Constantino.
Uh, Chris Constantino. >> First of all,
>> First of all,
>> First of all, >> yes,
>> yes,
>> yes, >> you're making that motion that's up on
>> you're making that motion that's up on
>> you're making that motion that's up on the screen. I just want to make that
the screen. I just want to make that
the screen. I just want to make that [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> a suggested motion.
>> a suggested motion.
>> a suggested motion. >> Yeah, I didn't see that or I would have
>> Yeah, I didn't see that or I would have
>> Yeah, I didn't see that or I would have done the word.
done the word.
done the word. >> Okay. I'm sorry. So, Chris, that uh
>> Okay. I'm sorry. So, Chris, that uh
>> Okay. I'm sorry. So, Chris, that uh >> you can see it on the screen, right?
>> you can see it on the screen, right?
>> you can see it on the screen, right? That's a yes.
That's a yes.
That's a yes. >> Yes, I can see. And yes,
>> Yes, I can see. And yes,
>> Yes, I can see. And yes, >> great. William Rose,
his pictures there.
his pictures there. >> William, you're on mute.
>> William, you're on mute.
>> William, you're on mute. >> Sorry, technical difficulties. I'm a
>> Sorry, technical difficulties. I'm a
>> Sorry, technical difficulties. I'm a Yes.
Yes.
Yes. >> I can't see the new person who joined
>> I can't see the new person who joined
>> I can't see the new person who joined from this far back. Who's under?
from this far back. Who's under?
from this far back. Who's under? >> I think I think that's
>> I think I think that's
>> I think I think that's >> No, that's Kate.
>> No, that's Kate.
>> No, that's Kate. >> Kate. Okay. And then Salem. Yes. Here.
>> Kate. Okay. And then Salem. Yes. Here.
>> Kate. Okay. And then Salem. Yes. Here. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, let's go
Yeah. Okay. All right. So, let's go
Yeah. Okay. All right. So, let's go around the room. Hi. Hi,
around the room. Hi. Hi,
around the room. Hi. Hi, >> Will Luke. Yes. Hi. Yes. I
>> Will Luke. Yes. Hi. Yes. I
>> Will Luke. Yes. Hi. Yes. I >> I
>> I
>> I >> I
>> I
>> I >> Yes.
That's item B, 2025 to 2028 tip May and
That's item B, 2025 to 2028 tip May and June minor revisions.
June minor revisions.
June minor revisions. >> Right. So there's uh you have a memo
>> Right. So there's uh you have a memo
>> Right. So there's uh you have a memo that I think two memos
that I think two memos
that I think two memos June's
June's
June's minor revisions um similar again to the
minor revisions um similar again to the
minor revisions um similar again to the the tip amendments there are those four
the tip amendments there are those four
the tip amendments there are those four revisions
revisions
revisions um
um
um for minor revisions I should say and
for minor revisions I should say and
for minor revisions I should say and those that are highlighted are
so less than 25% change in the words
so less than 25% change in the words you're estimate for the project and the
you're estimate for the project and the
you're estimate for the project and the change in the fiscal year of any phase
change in the fiscal year of any phase
change in the fiscal year of any phase portions and the notes at the bottom
portions and the notes at the bottom
portions and the notes at the bottom there are minor revisions. They're
there are minor revisions. They're
there are minor revisions. They're administrative in nature um don't
administrative in nature um don't
administrative in nature um don't require ETA or or this committees um any
require ETA or or this committees um any
require ETA or or this committees um any action just further information.
So in May there were several local
So in May there were several local projects. Um the Nasha hole in 586 is is
projects. Um the Nasha hole in 586 is is
projects. Um the Nasha hole in 586 is is is improvements to the wall um Walnut
is improvements to the wall um Walnut
is improvements to the wall um Walnut Street oval intersection and what
Street oval intersection and what
Street oval intersection and what changed was the preliminary engineering
changed was the preliminary engineering
changed was the preliminary engineering phase um increased by about 3% in cost.
phase um increased by about 3% in cost.
phase um increased by about 3% in cost. Also the funding source for PE um
Also the funding source for PE um
Also the funding source for PE um changed from uh from a surface trans
changed from uh from a surface trans
changed from uh from a surface trans transportation block grant um areas over
transportation block grant um areas over
transportation block grant um areas over 200,000 to STBG flex state flex fund. So
200,000 to STBG flex state flex fund. So
200,000 to STBG flex state flex fund. So no change in the funding source. So the
no change in the funding source. So the
no change in the funding source. So the reason for the change it was just the
reason for the change it was just the
reason for the change it was just the newest um uh project cost estimate and
newest um uh project cost estimate and
newest um uh project cost estimate and and DOT when that happens DOT um you
and DOT when that happens DOT um you
and DOT when that happens DOT um you know they [clears throat] sometimes have
know they [clears throat] sometimes have
know they [clears throat] sometimes have to modify the source of a project
to modify the source of a project
to modify the source of a project funding to maintain constraint um and
funding to maintain constraint um and
funding to maintain constraint um and and so on. So that's going to be that's
and so on. So that's going to be that's
and so on. So that's going to be that's a pretty standard capall for or when
a pretty standard capall for or when
a pretty standard capall for or when [clears throat] they're doing these
[clears throat] they're doing these
[clears throat] they're doing these minor minor adjustments. Um, so anyway,
minor minor adjustments. Um, so anyway,
minor minor adjustments. Um, so anyway, the analysis is that a change in the
the analysis is that a change in the
the analysis is that a change in the total project cost and adding a new
total project cost and adding a new
total project cost and adding a new funding source requires a minor
funding source requires a minor
funding source requires a minor revision. And if anybody [clears throat]
revision. And if anybody [clears throat]
revision. And if anybody [clears throat] has questions along the way, just let me
has questions along the way, just let me
has questions along the way, just let me know and otherwise I'll keep moving to
know and otherwise I'll keep moving to
know and otherwise I'll keep moving to it.
it.
it. >> Uh, right. So that that was the only
>> Uh, right. So that that was the only
>> Uh, right. So that that was the only local project being revised today. There
local project being revised today. There
local project being revised today. There were some statewide programmatic project
were some statewide programmatic project
were some statewide programmatic project changes that that may uh impact our
changes that that may uh impact our
changes that that may uh impact our region. So the uh uh so the program
region. So the uh uh so the program
region. So the uh uh so the program that's maintenance and preservation of
that's maintenance and preservation of
that's maintenance and preservation of high investment bridges that increased
high investment bridges that increased
high investment bridges that increased construction funding in fiscal year 26
construction funding in fiscal year 26
construction funding in fiscal year 26 Sagamore bridge would would be an
Sagamore bridge would would be an
Sagamore bridge would would be an example of a high high investment uh
example of a high high investment uh
example of a high high investment uh bridge. Um and then also the Culver
bridge. Um and then also the Culver
bridge. Um and then also the Culver replacement and rehab uh program
replacement and rehab uh program
replacement and rehab uh program increased in FY 26 um PE and
increased in FY 26 um PE and
increased in FY 26 um PE and construction funding increased in that
construction funding increased in that
construction funding increased in that year. That was May
year. That was May
year. That was May in June this month. So, Brookline 40662,
in June this month. So, Brookline 40662,
in June this month. So, Brookline 40662, which will be improvements to the
which will be improvements to the
which will be improvements to the intersection of Old Milford Road and
intersection of Old Milford Road and
intersection of Old Milford Road and Hampshire 13, final design to be
Hampshire 13, final design to be
Hampshire 13, final design to be determined. Um, PE funds are being
determined. Um, PE funds are being
determined. Um, PE funds are being shifted between fiscal years, but there
shifted between fiscal years, but there
shifted between fiscal years, but there isn't any change in the total cost of
isn't any change in the total cost of
isn't any change in the total cost of the project. Um, and
the project. Um, and
the project. Um, and again, EOC is, you know, new project
again, EOC is, you know, new project
again, EOC is, you know, new project estimate. they have to move funding
estimate. they have to move funding
estimate. they have to move funding around and make adjustments and make a
around and make adjustments and make a
around and make adjustments and make a new constraint again kind of
new constraint again kind of
new constraint again kind of administrative.
administrative.
administrative. So shifting funds between federal uh
So shifting funds between federal uh
So shifting funds between federal uh fiscal years requires a revision.
fiscal years requires a revision.
fiscal years requires a revision. Um which is the ever term pipe widening
Um which is the ever term pipe widening
Um which is the ever term pipe widening um project 13761 in NSHA Marramac and
um project 13761 in NSHA Marramac and
um project 13761 in NSHA Marramac and Bedford. Um
Bedford. Um
Bedford. Um the the right-of-way phase from 2025 was
the the right-of-way phase from 2025 was
the the right-of-way phase from 2025 was still lingering in in in the tip.
still lingering in in in the tip.
still lingering in in in the tip. Obviously FY25 is spawn that phase is
Obviously FY25 is spawn that phase is
Obviously FY25 is spawn that phase is being removed and that changes the the
being removed and that changes the the
being removed and that changes the the project total project costs by about 15%
project total project costs by about 15%
project total project costs by about 15% downward. Um and so a change in the
downward. Um and so a change in the
downward. Um and so a change in the funding estimate and moving phases
funding estimate and moving phases
funding estimate and moving phases between fiscal years again requires a
between fiscal years again requires a
between fiscal years again requires a revision.
revision.
revision. Um by the way that project number is
Um by the way that project number is
Um by the way that project number is just um includes
just um includes
just um includes engineering it right away. It's not the
engineering it right away. It's not the
engineering it right away. It's not the actual construction of of any of the um
actual construction of of any of the um
actual construction of of any of the um improvements. Those are different
improvements. Those are different
improvements. Those are different projects.
projects.
projects. Um in Pelum, uh project 29450 is on Old
Um in Pelum, uh project 29450 is on Old
Um in Pelum, uh project 29450 is on Old Bridge Street rehabing the bridge over
Bridge Street rehabing the bridge over
Bridge Street rehabing the bridge over Beaverbrook. Uh the engineering uh
Beaverbrook. Uh the engineering uh
Beaverbrook. Uh the engineering uh estimate in FY26 is dropping by about a
estimate in FY26 is dropping by about a
estimate in FY26 is dropping by about a half a percent.
half a percent.
half a percent. And the right ofway funding at 126 is
And the right ofway funding at 126 is
And the right ofway funding at 126 is changing from um SB 3674 cents to state
changing from um SB 3674 cents to state
changing from um SB 3674 cents to state a bridge.
And again this being adjust uh
And again this being adjust uh [clears throat] the funding estimate is
[clears throat] the funding estimate is
[clears throat] the funding estimate is being adjusted to reflect the new
being adjusted to reflect the new
being adjusted to reflect the new project schedule.
project schedule.
project schedule. And again changing the project cost
And again changing the project cost
And again changing the project cost estimate or change in the funding source
estimate or change in the funding source
estimate or change in the funding source requires a modification.
requires a modification.
requires a modification. Also in Pelum 41751A
Also in Pelum 41751A
Also in Pelum 41751A this is uh construction of a roundabout
this is uh construction of a roundabout
this is uh construction of a roundabout section of Mammoth Road and Marsh Road.
section of Mammoth Road and Marsh Road.
section of Mammoth Road and Marsh Road. Um the construction phase is moving from
Um the construction phase is moving from
Um the construction phase is moving from 2026 to 27. Federal share of con of of
2026 to 27. Federal share of con of of
2026 to 27. Federal share of con of of construction has increased
construction has increased
construction has increased but the other phase which is called
but the other phase which is called
but the other phase which is called other
other
other one of the other phases is it's
one of the other phases is it's
one of the other phases is it's decreasing. So the overall project cost
decreasing. So the overall project cost
decreasing. So the overall project cost is not changing um
is not changing um
is not changing um but uh the source of funding is being
but uh the source of funding is being
but uh the source of funding is being adjusted. The carbon reduction program
adjusted. The carbon reduction program
adjusted. The carbon reduction program which has been repealed at federal level
which has been repealed at federal level
which has been repealed at federal level is was funding part of this project
is was funding part of this project
is was funding part of this project that's gone. So um that's being removed
that's gone. So um that's being removed
that's gone. So um that's being removed and CAMAC and town funding is using is
and CAMAC and town funding is using is
and CAMAC and town funding is using is remaining in this project.
remaining in this project.
remaining in this project. So again changing the funding source
So again changing the funding source
So again changing the funding source shifting funding between uh different
shifting funding between uh different
shifting funding between uh different phases requires a revision.
phases requires a revision.
phases requires a revision. Um so that's all local projects and uh
Um so that's all local projects and uh
Um so that's all local projects and uh there are some pro programmatic and
there are some pro programmatic and
there are some pro programmatic and statewide uh changes. So the co
statewide uh changes. So the co
statewide uh changes. So the co replacement and rehab um program is
replacement and rehab um program is
replacement and rehab um program is changing again shifting funds between
changing again shifting funds between
changing again shifting funds between fiscal years. No change in the uh
fiscal years. No change in the uh
fiscal years. No change in the uh project estimate. The highway safety
project estimate. The highway safety
project estimate. The highway safety improvement program um they're
improvement program um they're
improvement program um they're decreasing
decreasing
decreasing uh preliminary engineering and rightway
uh preliminary engineering and rightway
uh preliminary engineering and rightway funds increasing construction in the
funds increasing construction in the
funds increasing construction in the other category.
other category.
other category. No change in the total project cost.
So that's that for for the H pro
So that's that for for the H pro program. Then the statewide pavement
program. Then the statewide pavement
program. Then the statewide pavement marking
marking
marking annual projects. They're adding uh
annual projects. They're adding uh
annual projects. They're adding uh highway safety improvement program
highway safety improvement program
highway safety improvement program funding to the construction phase.
funding to the construction phase.
funding to the construction phase. Again, moving funding among among
Again, moving funding among among
Again, moving funding among among different programs they can do.
different programs they can do.
different programs they can do. And last two are the uh railroad um uh
And last two are the uh railroad um uh
And last two are the uh railroad um uh the reconstruction of statewide railroad
the reconstruction of statewide railroad
the reconstruction of statewide railroad crossings and associated work. Um
crossings and associated work. Um
crossings and associated work. Um they're shifting construction phases uh
they're shifting construction phases uh
they're shifting construction phases uh funding between fiscal years and then
funding between fiscal years and then
funding between fiscal years and then the statewide underwater ridge
the statewide underwater ridge
the statewide underwater ridge inspection program. Again, they're
inspection program. Again, they're
inspection program. Again, they're shifting funding sources between fiscal
shifting funding sources between fiscal
shifting funding sources between fiscal years. Those are all the minor
years. Those are all the minor
years. Those are all the minor revisions. Are there any questions on
revisions. Are there any questions on
revisions. Are there any questions on this? Yeah, just a quick one because I
this? Yeah, just a quick one because I
this? Yeah, just a quick one because I know I'm going to get asked tomorrow
know I'm going to get asked tomorrow
know I'm going to get asked tomorrow night. For 40662 in Brooklyn, the PE
night. For 40662 in Brooklyn, the PE
night. For 40662 in Brooklyn, the PE funds are shifting from fiscal year
funds are shifting from fiscal year
funds are shifting from fiscal year what to fiscal year.
what to fiscal year.
what to fiscal year. >> Um,
>> Um,
>> Um, I'm happy here. I will
let let me let me let that happen before
let let me let me let that happen before we're done. Okay, super. Thanks. Yep.
we're done. Okay, super. Thanks. Yep.
we're done. Okay, super. Thanks. Yep. But that's it on on this.
Thanks to Emma. Help me out.
Thanks to Emma. Help me out. >> Oh, that's good. Inspect a bridge that's
>> Oh, that's good. Inspect a bridge that's
>> Oh, that's good. Inspect a bridge that's underwater.
>> Yeah, I probably
>> Yeah, I probably [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> I'm not sure which bridges they're doing
>> I'm not sure which bridges they're doing
>> I'm not sure which bridges they're doing that to around here. like a failed
that to around here. like a failed
that to around here. like a failed bridge if it's underwater.
bridge if it's underwater.
bridge if it's underwater. >> I truly do not understand that.
>> I truly do not understand that.
>> I truly do not understand that. >> Well, abotments are often
>> Well, abotments are often
>> Well, abotments are often >> underwater bridge inspection. Oh, okay.
>> underwater bridge inspection. Oh, okay.
>> underwater bridge inspection. Oh, okay. So, things that are pulling it up. Got
So, things that are pulling it up. Got
So, things that are pulling it up. Got it.
it.
it. >> Part of the bridge. That makes sense.
>> Part of the bridge. That makes sense.
>> Part of the bridge. That makes sense. >> Yeah, we we run a statewide program.
>> Yeah, we we run a statewide program.
>> Yeah, we we run a statewide program. >> We run a statewide program that involves
>> We run a statewide program that involves
>> We run a statewide program that involves setting up dives to specifically inspect
setting up dives to specifically inspect
setting up dives to specifically inspect the structural components of bridges.
the structural components of bridges.
the structural components of bridges. >> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you,
>> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you,
>> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you, William.
William.
William. >> It's Rob through. So traffic.
>> It's Rob through. So traffic.
>> It's Rob through. So traffic. >> All right.
>> All right.
>> All right. >> There's one underneath.
>> There's one underneath.
>> There's one underneath. >> Yep.
>> Yep.
>> Yep. >> One. Remember in the spring we there was
>> One. Remember in the spring we there was
>> One. Remember in the spring we there was a lot of letters going back and forth
a lot of letters going back and forth
a lot of letters going back and forth between that, you know, that program
between that, you know, that program
between that, you know, that program that took the Wilton, Milford, Amherst,
that took the Wilton, Milford, Amherst,
that took the Wilton, Milford, Amherst, Bedford piece out of the tip, I believe.
Bedford piece out of the tip, I believe.
Bedford piece out of the tip, I believe. >> Is there any status update to that?
>> Is there any status update to that?
>> Is there any status update to that? Because there was a lot of work that
Because there was a lot of work that
Because there was a lot of work that went in. Yeah, it's still it's a 10-year
went in. Yeah, it's still it's a 10-year
went in. Yeah, it's still it's a 10-year plan project.
>> I mean, we we you did express our
>> I mean, we we you did express our concern
concern
concern um and I think there was a hope
um and I think there was a hope
um and I think there was a hope >> that uh there would be legislative
>> that uh there would be legislative
>> that uh there would be legislative action but it it did not happen. Yeah, I
action but it it did not happen. Yeah, I
action but it it did not happen. Yeah, I think there was talk of increasing the
think there was talk of increasing the
think there was talk of increasing the tolls of out ofstate users or, you know,
tolls of out ofstate users or, you know,
tolls of out ofstate users or, you know, traversing,
traversing,
traversing, you know,
you know,
you know, >> right? We could talk about that in a
>> right? We could talk about that in a
>> right? We could talk about that in a second that with the 10-year plan, um,
second that with the 10-year plan, um,
second that with the 10-year plan, um, you know, we're going to give an update
you know, we're going to give an update
you know, we're going to give an update on the 10-year plan. Okay. Process, but
on the 10-year plan. Okay. Process, but
on the 10-year plan. Okay. Process, but that piece of it didn't make it.
that piece of it didn't make it.
that piece of it didn't make it. >> Oh, it it was voted down. No, it's just
>> Oh, it it was voted down. No, it's just
>> Oh, it it was voted down. No, it's just in um you know, I think there was an
in um you know, I think there was an
in um you know, I think there was an effort on the part of some of our
effort on the part of some of our
effort on the part of some of our representatives from our region to amend
representatives from our region to amend
representatives from our region to amend the legislation to include advancing
the legislation to include advancing
the legislation to include advancing that project. It just it wasn't a fly on
that project. It just it wasn't a fly on
that project. It just it wasn't a fly on the wall, but it it didn't advance.
the wall, but it it didn't advance.
the wall, but it it didn't advance. There's a lot of horse trading that goes
There's a lot of horse trading that goes
There's a lot of horse trading that goes on and I guess that that horse didn't
on and I guess that that horse didn't
on and I guess that that horse didn't make it.
make it.
make it. >> Good.
>> Good.
>> Good. >> Any other discussion on that item? But
>> Any other discussion on that item? But
>> Any other discussion on that item? But we don't have a sales or income tax
we don't have a sales or income tax
we don't have a sales or income tax hard.
>> All right, next item. 2027 to 2036
>> All right, next item. 2027 to 2036 10year plan update.
>> Yeah, I if you guys don't mind chiming
>> Yeah, I if you guys don't mind chiming in I think um but I think um what so
in I think um but I think um what so
in I think um but I think um what so there's a couple things that are going
there's a couple things that are going
there's a couple things that are going on and some of it might seem confusing.
on and some of it might seem confusing.
on and some of it might seem confusing. Um so we have sent letters out to all
Um so we have sent letters out to all
Um so we have sent letters out to all the communities. So, and if you guys
the communities. So, and if you guys
the communities. So, and if you guys want to touch base on that, um, we are
want to touch base on that, um, we are
want to touch base on that, um, we are now doing outreach related to the
now doing outreach related to the
now doing outreach related to the upcoming 10-year plan. We also recognize
upcoming 10-year plan. We also recognize
upcoming 10-year plan. We also recognize that that's happening when we still
that that's happening when we still
that that's happening when we still don't know what the status is of the
don't know what the status is of the
don't know what the status is of the 10ear plan that is now pending unless
10ear plan that is now pending unless
10ear plan that is now pending unless William heard something today that we
William heard something today that we
William heard something today that we didn't hear. And I'm guessing that's
didn't hear. And I'm guessing that's
didn't hear. And I'm guessing that's >> Yeah, I I haven't heard any updates. it
>> Yeah, I I haven't heard any updates. it
>> Yeah, I I haven't heard any updates. it has been enrolled uh in the legislature
has been enrolled uh in the legislature
has been enrolled uh in the legislature and so we are now waiting for the
and so we are now waiting for the
and so we are now waiting for the governor's decision on how she would
governor's decision on how she would
governor's decision on how she would like to proceed.
like to proceed.
like to proceed. >> So uh and Emma, I don't want to put you
>> So uh and Emma, I don't want to put you
>> So uh and Emma, I don't want to put you on the spot, but I know you were
on the spot, but I know you were
on the spot, but I know you were following the legislation. Are you able
following the legislation. Are you able
following the legislation. Are you able to give an update as to what exactly
to give an update as to what exactly
to give an update as to what exactly came out of um the the joint session and
came out of um the the joint session and
came out of um the the joint session and was enrolled?
was enrolled?
was enrolled? >> Yeah. So, um I think that they agreed on
>> Yeah. So, um I think that they agreed on
>> Yeah. So, um I think that they agreed on what had passed through the Senate, um
what had passed through the Senate, um
what had passed through the Senate, um which and that the Senate had amended to
which and that the Senate had amended to
which and that the Senate had amended to the 10-year plan bill, um the toll
the 10-year plan bill, um the toll
the 10-year plan bill, um the toll increase for non New Hampshire easy pass
increase for non New Hampshire easy pass
increase for non New Hampshire easy pass users. So, they it had um the separate
users. So, they it had um the separate
users. So, they it had um the separate bill for the toll increase had passed in
bill for the toll increase had passed in
bill for the toll increase had passed in the House uh earlier that day. So the
the House uh earlier that day. So the
the House uh earlier that day. So the Senate um amended that increase to the
Senate um amended that increase to the
Senate um amended that increase to the tenure plan and then they said since
tenure plan and then they said since
tenure plan and then they said since that um funding would uh be available
that um funding would uh be available
that um funding would uh be available would increase uh for the turnpike then
would increase uh for the turnpike then
would increase uh for the turnpike then they could um use uh I think it was
they could um use uh I think it was
they could um use uh I think it was around maybe $60 million um that they
around maybe $60 million um that they
around maybe $60 million um that they could dedicate to adding a few regional
could dedicate to adding a few regional
could dedicate to adding a few regional projects back in. Um so they uh the one
projects back in. Um so they uh the one
projects back in. Um so they uh the one from our region that uh was added in
from our region that uh was added in
from our region that uh was added in this amendment was um the legisree
this amendment was um the legisree
this amendment was um the legisree project in NSHA which had been the top
project in NSHA which had been the top
project in NSHA which had been the top regional priority in the last uh in our
regional priority in the last uh in our
regional priority in the last uh in our in our most recent process. Uh so we're
in our most recent process. Uh so we're
in our most recent process. Uh so we're waiting to see so if the governor signs
waiting to see so if the governor signs
waiting to see so if the governor signs the 10-year plan bill that includes the
the 10-year plan bill that includes the
the 10-year plan bill that includes the toll increases.
toll increases.
toll increases. So we're waiting.
So we're waiting.
So we're waiting. Didn't the governor say she was going to
Didn't the governor say she was going to
Didn't the governor say she was going to veto it?
veto it?
veto it? >> At one point she had said that about the
>> At one point she had said that about the
>> At one point she had said that about the separate bill.
separate bill.
separate bill. >> So
>> So
>> So >> So now everything
>> So now everything
>> So now everything increase cost. [clears throat]
increase cost. [clears throat]
increase cost. [clears throat] >> So you're saying the reason is it's
>> So you're saying the reason is it's
>> So you're saying the reason is it's combining the tax the hike of the toll
combining the tax the hike of the toll
combining the tax the hike of the toll for out ofers with the plan.
for out ofers with the plan.
for out ofers with the plan. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> They're coupled together. Yep. Right.
>> They're coupled together. Yep. Right.
>> They're coupled together. Yep. Right. So, if she's really upset about the
So, if she's really upset about the
So, if she's really upset about the raise [clears throat] on the on the
raise [clears throat] on the on the
raise [clears throat] on the on the toll.
toll.
toll. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Right.
>> Right.
>> Right. >> All right.
>> All right.
>> All right. >> And then I actually don't know what
>> And then I actually don't know what
>> And then I actually don't know what happened. And William, I don't know if
happened. And William, I don't know if
happened. And William, I don't know if you can answer that question uh or want
you can answer that question uh or want
you can answer that question uh or want to, but if the if the 10-year plan is
to, but if the if the 10-year plan is
to, but if the if the 10-year plan is vetoed,
vetoed,
vetoed, what happens?
>> That's a great question. and we haven't
>> That's a great question. and we haven't seen that happen in anybody's
seen that happen in anybody's
seen that happen in anybody's recollection or recollected history
recollection or recollected history
recollection or recollected history since the 10-year plan started in the
since the 10-year plan started in the
since the 10-year plan started in the 80s. So, we'll see.
80s. So, we'll see.
80s. So, we'll see. Not really. Um, but just to just to be
Not really. Um, but just to just to be
Not really. Um, but just to just to be clear, uh, because I think it's a
clear, uh, because I think it's a
clear, uh, because I think it's a feather in the cap for the regional
feather in the cap for the regional
feather in the cap for the regional planning commission process,
planning commission process,
planning commission process, uh, the Senate Transportation Committee
uh, the Senate Transportation Committee
uh, the Senate Transportation Committee actually included the top regional
actually included the top regional
actually included the top regional priority for all nine regional planning
priority for all nine regional planning
priority for all nine regional planning commissions in recognition of the work
commissions in recognition of the work
commissions in recognition of the work that had been invested by the regions
that had been invested by the regions
that had been invested by the regions around the state uh to identify projects
around the state uh to identify projects
around the state uh to identify projects and and that money is coming from uh,
and and that money is coming from uh,
and and that money is coming from uh, turnpike adjacent projects that we had
turnpike adjacent projects that we had
turnpike adjacent projects that we had allocated federal funding for. Uh
allocated federal funding for. Uh
allocated federal funding for. Uh there's several bridges as part of the
there's several bridges as part of the
there's several bridges as part of the Bow Conquered project. Uh and there's
Bow Conquered project. Uh and there's
Bow Conquered project. Uh and there's also uh the second southbound on-ramp
also uh the second southbound on-ramp
also uh the second southbound on-ramp for exit six in Manchester. Uh we have a
for exit six in Manchester. Uh we have a
for exit six in Manchester. Uh we have a safety improvement project slated for
safety improvement project slated for
safety improvement project slated for that and that was going to be federal
that and that was going to be federal
that and that was going to be federal aid funded with the increase in turnpike
aid funded with the increase in turnpike
aid funded with the increase in turnpike revenues as Emma mentioned. Uh that
revenues as Emma mentioned. Uh that
revenues as Emma mentioned. Uh that frees up it's actually closer to about
frees up it's actually closer to about
frees up it's actually closer to about 858$86 million in total. And so we were
858$86 million in total. And so we were
858$86 million in total. And so we were able to add projects using federal
able to add projects using federal
able to add projects using federal dollars freed up from the increase in
dollars freed up from the increase in
dollars freed up from the increase in turnpike revenues.
>> And if I recall correctly, I think exits
>> And if I recall correctly, I think exits six and seven came back in. Is that
six and seven came back in. Is that
six and seven came back in. Is that true? In in Manchester,
true? In in Manchester,
true? In in Manchester, >> uh they have been added back to the
>> uh they have been added back to the
>> uh they have been added back to the 10-year plan, but they are still not
10-year plan, but they are still not
10-year plan, but they are still not fully funded.
fully funded.
fully funded. >> Who do we have to thank for chasing down
>> Who do we have to thank for chasing down
>> Who do we have to thank for chasing down those federal dollars?
It was the department that identified
It was the department that identified that those funds would be made
that those funds would be made
that those funds would be made available. Yes.
available. Yes.
available. Yes. >> Great.
>> Thank you, William.
>> Thank you, William. >> That was the whole plan.
>> That was the whole plan.
>> That was the whole plan. >> So, the the process that's happening now
>> So, the the process that's happening now
>> So, the the process that's happening now is different than what has happened
is different than what has happened
is different than what has happened historically in the past. For the coming
historically in the past. For the coming
historically in the past. For the coming 10-year plan, what we had typically done
10-year plan, what we had typically done
10-year plan, what we had typically done is we've gone out to all the communities
is we've gone out to all the communities
is we've gone out to all the communities and kind of asked for what are, you
and kind of asked for what are, you
and kind of asked for what are, you know, essentially new priority projects.
know, essentially new priority projects.
know, essentially new priority projects. confirm old, but also what are your new
confirm old, but also what are your new
confirm old, but also what are your new priorities uh that we would look to add
priorities uh that we would look to add
priorities uh that we would look to add um to the 10-year plan. And we kind of I
um to the 10-year plan. And we kind of I
um to the 10-year plan. And we kind of I think for those of us who who've been
think for those of us who who've been
think for those of us who who've been around for a couple of years, you know
around for a couple of years, you know
around for a couple of years, you know the process that we go to. It's a
the process that we go to. It's a
the process that we go to. It's a two-year process. We solicit the
two-year process. We solicit the
two-year process. We solicit the projects. We put them through uh you
projects. We put them through uh you
projects. We put them through uh you know cost review, engineering review,
know cost review, engineering review,
know cost review, engineering review, accountability, make recommendations to
accountability, make recommendations to
accountability, make recommendations to do
do
do moves on through the process. So given
moves on through the process. So given
moves on through the process. So given the financial constraints that the
the financial constraints that the
the financial constraints that the 10-year plan is under, we're not going
10-year plan is under, we're not going
10-year plan is under, we're not going to be doing that this time around. We
to be doing that this time around. We
to be doing that this time around. We are not soliciting new projects into the
are not soliciting new projects into the
are not soliciting new projects into the 10-year plan. Um so instead, what we're
10-year plan. Um so instead, what we're
10-year plan. Um so instead, what we're looking to do, we do want to have a
looking to do, we do want to have a
looking to do, we do want to have a conversation about new projects that are
conversation about new projects that are
conversation about new projects that are out there for our long range plan, but
out there for our long range plan, but
out there for our long range plan, but not for the purposes of the 10-year
not for the purposes of the 10-year
not for the purposes of the 10-year plan. Um what what is going to be key is
plan. Um what what is going to be key is
plan. Um what what is going to be key is for projects that are currently in the
for projects that are currently in the
for projects that are currently in the 10-year plan. Uh what we want
10-year plan. Uh what we want
10-year plan. Uh what we want communities to do is confirm those. Are
communities to do is confirm those. Are
communities to do is confirm those. Are those projects still priorities? Uh if
those projects still priorities? Uh if
those projects still priorities? Uh if not, there may be an opportunity to
not, there may be an opportunity to
not, there may be an opportunity to substitute a new project for one that's
substitute a new project for one that's
substitute a new project for one that's already in there because if something
already in there because if something
already in there because if something isn't a priority and it comes out, that
isn't a priority and it comes out, that
isn't a priority and it comes out, that does free up some dollars. So that's the
does free up some dollars. So that's the
does free up some dollars. So that's the conversation that we're going to be
conversation that we're going to be
conversation that we're going to be having. It's clearly a very different
having. It's clearly a very different
having. It's clearly a very different one.
one.
one. >> Is was that in that email?
>> Is was that in that email?
>> Is was that in that email? >> I don't know.
>> I don't know.
>> I don't know. >> Which email?
>> Which email?
>> Which email? >> Because I don't I didn't read the email
>> Because I don't I didn't read the email
>> Because I don't I didn't read the email that way. That's why I'm asking. That's
that way. That's why I'm asking. That's
that way. That's why I'm asking. That's the email that went out to commissioners
the email that went out to commissioners
the email that went out to commissioners and representatives and communities
and representatives and communities
and representatives and communities talking about.
talking about.
talking about. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So Jim's asking what was what I just
>> So Jim's asking what was what I just
>> So Jim's asking what was what I just said in that
said in that
said in that >> letter. Really?
>> letter. Really?
>> letter. Really? So
So
So >> we're starting the process again say
>> we're starting the process again say
>> we're starting the process again say that it would be to
that it would be to
that it would be to >> I guess our letter wasn't submission
>> I guess our letter wasn't submission
>> I guess our letter wasn't submission clear that's that's what the process is
clear that's that's what the process is
clear that's that's what the process is >> okay I'm missing something but
>> okay I'm missing something but
>> okay I'm missing something but >> Jay where is that coming from is that is
>> Jay where is that coming from is that is
>> Jay where is that coming from is that is that across all the RPCs
that across all the RPCs
that across all the RPCs >> all the RPCs so and again William
>> all the RPCs so and again William
>> all the RPCs so and again William correct
correct
correct >> direction from DOT asking Jay
>> direction from DOT asking Jay
>> direction from DOT asking Jay >> that's the guidance we've received
>> that's the guidance we've received
>> that's the guidance we've received >> from New Hampshire DOT
>> from New Hampshire DOT
>> from New Hampshire DOT >> yes that it I
>> yes that it I
>> yes that it I Okay. I I thought it was fairly clear,
Okay. I I thought it was fairly clear,
Okay. I I thought it was fairly clear, but I guess maybe not.
but I guess maybe not.
but I guess maybe not. >> So, but we'll make it clearer.
>> So, but we'll make it clearer.
>> So, but we'll make it clearer. >> It is in there.
>> It is in there.
>> It is in there. >> That's what I'm asking.
>> That's what I'm asking.
>> That's what I'm asking. >> Yeah, it's there.
>> Yeah, it's there.
>> Yeah, it's there. >> It says it's our your community's
>> It says it's our your community's
>> It says it's our your community's opportunity to ensure that funds go
opportunity to ensure that funds go
opportunity to ensure that funds go towards your priority projects.
towards your priority projects.
towards your priority projects. >> Now, read the attachment.
>> Now, read the attachment.
>> Now, read the attachment. >> Oh, I didn't read the Tim, and I
>> Oh, I didn't read the Tim, and I
>> Oh, I didn't read the Tim, and I apologize. I did not read the
apologize. I did not read the
apologize. I did not read the attachment. I just read the email.
attachment. I just read the email.
attachment. I just read the email. >> Obviously,
>> Obviously,
>> Obviously, >> it's in the attachment.
>> it's in the attachment.
>> it's in the attachment. >> It's in the attachment. Okay.
>> It's in the attachment. Okay.
>> It's in the attachment. Okay. So that's where we're at the attachment.
So that's where we're at the attachment.
So that's where we're at the attachment. >> More to come.
>> More to come.
>> More to come. >> And in the attachment, does it say that
>> And in the attachment, does it say that
>> And in the attachment, does it say that this is under the direction of guidance
this is under the direction of guidance
this is under the direction of guidance from the Hampshire DOT? I
from the Hampshire DOT? I
from the Hampshire DOT? I >> think so.
>> think so.
>> think so. >> I have to hold it back up again, but
>> I have to hold it back up again, but
>> I have to hold it back up again, but I'll
I'll
I'll >> There's a lot of words there.
>> It's town specific.
>> It's town specific. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Well, sure.
>> Well, sure.
>> Well, sure. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Well, we like everybody to feel included
>> Well, we like everybody to feel included
>> Well, we like everybody to feel included and you know, all [clears throat] our
and you know, all [clears throat] our
and you know, all [clears throat] our towns are equally important to us.
So just for my own clarification, so
So just for my own clarification, so it's waiting it's already been passed
it's waiting it's already been passed
it's waiting it's already been passed through the house and the senate just
through the house and the senate just
through the house and the senate just waiting. It's on uh the governor's desk.
waiting. It's on uh the governor's desk.
waiting. It's on uh the governor's desk. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> So we don't meet for another, you know,
>> So we don't meet for another, you know,
>> So we don't meet for another, you know, well I guess trying to come back at
well I guess trying to come back at
well I guess trying to come back at least the executive committee, right? So
least the executive committee, right? So
least the executive committee, right? So what happens if the next month or so?
what happens if the next month or so?
what happens if the next month or so? Not that we have just my own idea. If
Not that we have just my own idea. If
Not that we have just my own idea. If she says no, we're in that uncharted
she says no, we're in that uncharted
she says no, we're in that uncharted territory, right? What do we do at this
territory, right? What do we do at this
territory, right? What do we do at this point?
point?
point? >> It appears so. Nobody knows.
>> It appears so. Nobody knows.
>> It appears so. Nobody knows. >> Nobody knows. Okay.
>> Nobody knows. Okay.
>> Nobody knows. Okay. >> That's all right.
>> That's all right.
>> That's all right. >> But but we're at the legislative process
>> But but we're at the legislative process
>> But but we're at the legislative process part of the whole 10-year planning
part of the whole 10-year planning
part of the whole 10-year planning process. And it was a bill and it went
process. And it was a bill and it went
process. And it was a bill and it went through both chambers. It was approved.
through both chambers. It was approved.
through both chambers. It was approved. It's now submitted to the governor. You
It's now submitted to the governor. You
It's now submitted to the governor. You would expect the bill if vetoed would
would expect the bill if vetoed would
would expect the bill if vetoed would have to would be subject to a veto
have to would be subject to a veto
have to would be subject to a veto override.
override.
override. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Or some other negotiation process that
>> Or some other negotiation process that
>> Or some other negotiation process that generates a new one
generates a new one
generates a new one >> for the governor separate items
>> for the governor separate items
>> for the governor separate items together.
together.
together. signature,
signature,
signature, right?
right?
right? >> And and so just just to circle back
>> And and so just just to circle back
>> And and so just just to circle back that whole legislative process and that
that whole legislative process and that
that whole legislative process and that and your plans
and your plans
and your plans whenever it hopefully it becomes law,
whenever it hopefully it becomes law,
whenever it hopefully it becomes law, but and what Jay and what we're talking
but and what Jay and what we're talking
but and what Jay and what we're talking about, I'm I'm sure we all are on the
about, I'm I'm sure we all are on the
about, I'm I'm sure we all are on the same page. Our email is about the next
same page. Our email is about the next
same page. Our email is about the next 10ear plan start process.
10ear plan start process.
10ear plan start process. It is confusing because at any given
It is confusing because at any given
It is confusing because at any given time you could have the
time you could have the
time you could have the like right now we have the current one
like right now we have the current one
like right now we have the current one got the draft plan which waiting for
got the draft plan which waiting for
got the draft plan which waiting for signature and we're talking about the
signature and we're talking about the
signature and we're talking about the next literally sort of involved with
next literally sort of involved with
next literally sort of involved with three different
three different
three different >> so it's definitely confusing
>> so it's definitely confusing
>> so it's definitely confusing [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> but at least we know we have the one
>> but at least we know we have the one
>> but at least we know we have the one that was approved [laughter]
Right. Any any more discussion on the
Right. Any any more discussion on the 10-year plan update.
>> All right. Item five, annual business
>> All right. Item five, annual business meeting.
meeting.
meeting. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> So, hopefully everybody has a packet. If
>> So, hopefully everybody has a packet. If
>> So, hopefully everybody has a packet. If not, there are some in the back of the
not, there are some in the back of the
not, there are some in the back of the room. So,
room. So,
room. So, >> they're all gone.
>> they're all gone.
>> they're all gone. >> They're all gone. Does everybody have a
>> They're all gone. Does everybody have a
>> They're all gone. Does everybody have a packet? I
packet? I
packet? I have
have
have to go
to go
to go answer.
>> Um,
>> Um, >> so I'm I'm going to walk through the
>> so I'm I'm going to walk through the
>> so I'm I'm going to walk through the proposed budget. Um, as I move along,
proposed budget. Um, as I move along,
proposed budget. Um, as I move along, um, if anyone has any questions, just
um, if anyone has any questions, just
um, if anyone has any questions, just stop me as we go.
stop me as we go.
stop me as we go. >> Did someone else need a packet?
So, if everybody is there, we're looking
So, if everybody is there, we're looking at the FY27
at the FY27
at the FY27 um proposed budget. You know, just a few
um proposed budget. You know, just a few
um proposed budget. You know, just a few comments going into it. This is a really
comments going into it. This is a really
comments going into it. This is a really tight budget. um we are more constrained
tight budget. um we are more constrained
tight budget. um we are more constrained on funding sources than we have been.
on funding sources than we have been.
on funding sources than we have been. And and a good reason for that, a major
And and a good reason for that, a major
And and a good reason for that, a major reason for that is some of the funding
reason for that is some of the funding
reason for that is some of the funding sources that we've had over the past few
sources that we've had over the past few
sources that we've had over the past few years. Some of the grants that we've had
years. Some of the grants that we've had
years. Some of the grants that we've had the benefit of um have gone or are going
the benefit of um have gone or are going
the benefit of um have gone or are going away. And so that definitely has a
away. And so that definitely has a
away. And so that definitely has a budgetary impact when coupled with
budgetary impact when coupled with
budgetary impact when coupled with increased costs. And sometimes that's
increased costs. And sometimes that's
increased costs. And sometimes that's not so obvious uh as I walk through
not so obvious uh as I walk through
not so obvious uh as I walk through this. So, I'll try to kind of explain it
this. So, I'll try to kind of explain it
this. So, I'll try to kind of explain it as we go. So, very first item um under
as we go. So, very first item um under
as we go. So, very first item um under revenues is local dues. You can see
revenues is local dues. You can see
revenues is local dues. You can see there's a $5,289
there's a $5,289
there's a $5,289 increase that reflects the 3% increase
increase that reflects the 3% increase
increase that reflects the 3% increase that was approved last year in dues. So,
that was approved last year in dues. So,
that was approved last year in dues. So, small little bump up there. Um next,
small little bump up there. Um next,
small little bump up there. Um next, under federal contracts, all of the ones
under federal contracts, all of the ones
under federal contracts, all of the ones that you see here are EPA Brownfields
that you see here are EPA Brownfields
that you see here are EPA Brownfields grants that go into our brownfields
grants that go into our brownfields
grants that go into our brownfields program. Uh oh, I take it back. The
program. Uh oh, I take it back. The
program. Uh oh, I take it back. The first one was regional plan. So the
first one was regional plan. So the
first one was regional plan. So the regional plan is almost complete. So
regional plan is almost complete. So
regional plan is almost complete. So that's why you see a significant uh in
that's why you see a significant uh in
that's why you see a significant uh in the difference column obviously if it's
the difference column obviously if it's
the difference column obviously if it's in parenthesis that's a reduction. So
in parenthesis that's a reduction. So
in parenthesis that's a reduction. So that's the reason for that significant
that's the reason for that significant
that's the reason for that significant reduction. It's just most of the spend
reduction. It's just most of the spend
reduction. It's just most of the spend funds have been spent. The first um EPA
funds have been spent. The first um EPA
funds have been spent. The first um EPA brownfields item. This is our EPA
brownfields item. This is our EPA
brownfields item. This is our EPA brownfields assessment grant. This is
brownfields assessment grant. This is
brownfields assessment grant. This is the grant that we were awarded in 2022
the grant that we were awarded in 2022
the grant that we were awarded in 2022 and um so those funds have been almost
and um so those funds have been almost
and um so those funds have been almost entirely spent down. That's a good
entirely spent down. That's a good
entirely spent down. That's a good thing. That's what we want, but that's
thing. That's what we want, but that's
thing. That's what we want, but that's why you see a big reduction there. Next
why you see a big reduction there. Next
why you see a big reduction there. Next line is the new EPA assessment grant
line is the new EPA assessment grant
line is the new EPA assessment grant that we received in 2025.
that we received in 2025.
that we received in 2025. Um and so you do see a bit of an
Um and so you do see a bit of an
Um and so you do see a bit of an increase there. Uh that's just because
increase there. Uh that's just because
increase there. Uh that's just because that's a newer grant. It's multi-year,
that's a newer grant. It's multi-year,
that's a newer grant. It's multi-year, but this is what we're anticipating
but this is what we're anticipating
but this is what we're anticipating we'll draw down. And then finally, the
we'll draw down. And then finally, the
we'll draw down. And then finally, the EPA revolving loan uh fund grant. That
EPA revolving loan uh fund grant. That
EPA revolving loan uh fund grant. That was a very large grant that was received
was a very large grant that was received
was a very large grant that was received by the NRPC Foundation. And this is the
by the NRPC Foundation. And this is the
by the NRPC Foundation. And this is the amount that we anticipate um we will
amount that we anticipate um we will
amount that we anticipate um we will draw down. NRBC administers that. So
draw down. NRBC administers that. So
draw down. NRBC administers that. So that's what we anticipate we'll be
that's what we anticipate we'll be
that's what we anticipate we'll be drawing down. I I will say the 24,000
drawing down. I I will say the 24,000
drawing down. I I will say the 24,000 that was shown last year, that's uh the
that was shown last year, that's uh the
that was shown last year, that's uh the entire amount available. So that was
entire amount available. So that was
entire amount available. So that was really shouldn't have been in there as a
really shouldn't have been in there as a
really shouldn't have been in there as a full 24. That's why you see a reduction
full 24. That's why you see a reduction
full 24. That's why you see a reduction there. Uh so total federal contracts are
there. Uh so total federal contracts are
there. Uh so total federal contracts are down almost $75,000. So that that's a
down almost $75,000. So that that's a
down almost $75,000. So that that's a pretty significant reduction.
pretty significant reduction.
pretty significant reduction. Moving on down to other grants, some of
Moving on down to other grants, some of
Moving on down to other grants, some of them um are are that you see under the
them um are are that you see under the
them um are are that you see under the proposed line are new. So, we did
proposed line are new. So, we did
proposed line are new. So, we did receive um a new $75,000 grant to do the
receive um a new $75,000 grant to do the
receive um a new $75,000 grant to do the next phase of the watershed management
next phase of the watershed management
next phase of the watershed management plan for Robinson Pond and Hudson.
plan for Robinson Pond and Hudson.
plan for Robinson Pond and Hudson. That's really, really great. We're happy
That's really, really great. We're happy
That's really, really great. We're happy to see that. Most of that is passed
to see that. Most of that is passed
to see that. Most of that is passed through. Most of that goes to an
through. Most of that goes to an
through. Most of that goes to an engineering consulting firm that we'll
engineering consulting firm that we'll
engineering consulting firm that we'll be hiring to do the actual work. We do
be hiring to do the actual work. We do
be hiring to do the actual work. We do have a new uh multi-year grant for the
have a new uh multi-year grant for the
have a new uh multi-year grant for the stream crossing navigator program. So,
stream crossing navigator program. So,
stream crossing navigator program. So, that is uh really nice to see. That'll
that is uh really nice to see. That'll
that is uh really nice to see. That'll continue to future years. And uh today
continue to future years. And uh today
continue to future years. And uh today the solid waste district did approve a
the solid waste district did approve a
the solid waste district did approve a small increase um of $3,000 to the funds
small increase um of $3,000 to the funds
small increase um of $3,000 to the funds that go to NRPC for administering the
that go to NRPC for administering the
that go to NRPC for administering the household hazardous waste program. So
household hazardous waste program. So
household hazardous waste program. So overall there's a pretty good jump um
overall there's a pretty good jump um
overall there's a pretty good jump um you know $79,000 jump in total grants.
you know $79,000 jump in total grants.
you know $79,000 jump in total grants. Uh just keeping in mind that most of
Uh just keeping in mind that most of
Uh just keeping in mind that most of that is passed through. It's you know we
that is passed through. It's you know we
that is passed through. It's you know we don't realize it for using for salaries
don't realize it for using for salaries
don't realize it for using for salaries etc. Moving on down, we have local.
etc. Moving on down, we have local.
etc. Moving on down, we have local. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> So, under other grants, the last line
>> So, under other grants, the last line
>> So, under other grants, the last line 20,000 for the upcoming fiscal year, is
20,000 for the upcoming fiscal year, is
20,000 for the upcoming fiscal year, is that a hope and a prayer?
that a hope and a prayer?
that a hope and a prayer? >> Uh, it's it's a what we would consider
>> Uh, it's it's a what we would consider
>> Uh, it's it's a what we would consider realistic hope and prayer.
realistic hope and prayer.
realistic hope and prayer. >> So, so what Payton does is go back five
>> So, so what Payton does is go back five
>> So, so what Payton does is go back five years and say
years and say
years and say we we've always got grant applications
we we've always got grant applications
we we've always got grant applications in. What is the average for the last
in. What is the average for the last
in. What is the average for the last five years? That's how we got that. So,
five years? That's how we got that. So,
five years? That's how we got that. So, yes, a little hope and prayer.
yes, a little hope and prayer.
yes, a little hope and prayer. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Um there's a [clears throat] few million
Um there's a [clears throat] few million
Um there's a [clears throat] few million dollars in grant applications out there.
dollars in grant applications out there.
dollars in grant applications out there. So something to think will come along.
So something to think will come along.
So something to think will come along. Usually does. So moving on down to local
Usually does. So moving on down to local
Usually does. So moving on down to local planning uh contracts. I'm not going to
planning uh contracts. I'm not going to
planning uh contracts. I'm not going to go through all of these in detail. A lot
go through all of these in detail. A lot
go through all of these in detail. A lot of the projects um are for one year or
of the projects um are for one year or
of the projects um are for one year or two year and so we spend them down they
two year and so we spend them down they
two year and so we spend them down they go into so that's why you'll see a
go into so that's why you'll see a
go into so that's why you'll see a decrease. The biggie though to my
decrease. The biggie though to my
decrease. The biggie though to my earlier point is uh some of the projects
earlier point is uh some of the projects
earlier point is uh some of the projects that we've had funding came out of ARPA
that we've had funding came out of ARPA
that we've had funding came out of ARPA funding or CARES Act funding. Uh and
funding or CARES Act funding. Uh and
funding or CARES Act funding. Uh and that's really what's dried up. So things
that's really what's dried up. So things
that's really what's dried up. So things like the HOF grants, those are really
like the HOF grants, those are really
like the HOF grants, those are really great. Um we've uh worked with two
great. Um we've uh worked with two
great. Um we've uh worked with two communities on those. Um but that
communities on those. Um but that
communities on those. Um but that funding is disappearing, that's ending.
funding is disappearing, that's ending.
funding is disappearing, that's ending. And uh so that's why you'll kind of see
And uh so that's why you'll kind of see
And uh so that's why you'll kind of see those. But again, unless somebody's got
those. But again, unless somebody's got
those. But again, unless somebody's got a question, I won't go through them all.
a question, I won't go through them all.
a question, I won't go through them all. Um very similar. There are always
Um very similar. There are always
Um very similar. There are always additional projects that we pick up over
additional projects that we pick up over
additional projects that we pick up over the course of the year and so that's the
the course of the year and so that's the
the course of the year and so that's the very last item available.
very last item available.
very last item available. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> I'm not sure is this 20 361 MBDP is is
>> I'm not sure is this 20 361 MBDP is is
>> I'm not sure is this 20 361 MBDP is is that referring to the Marramac Village
that referring to the Marramac Village
that referring to the Marramac Village District?
District?
District? >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. Marramac Village District um
>> Yeah. Marramac Village District um
>> Yeah. Marramac Village District um contracts with us for GIS support work.
contracts with us for GIS support work.
contracts with us for GIS support work. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Yes. So since I had the privilege of
>> Yes. So since I had the privilege of
>> Yes. So since I had the privilege of serving on the executive committee, I
serving on the executive committee, I
serving on the executive committee, I know there was discussion relative to
know there was discussion relative to
know there was discussion relative to the rates we charge for circuit writer.
the rates we charge for circuit writer.
the rates we charge for circuit writer. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> And and given our increased costs, have
>> And and given our increased costs, have
>> And and given our increased costs, have we have we made adjustments to those
we have we made adjustments to those
we have we made adjustments to those rates going forward with these
rates going forward with these
rates going forward with these companies?
companies?
companies? >> We have and we will going forward keep
>> We have and we will going forward keep
>> We have and we will going forward keep although I think significantly as those
although I think significantly as those
although I think significantly as those rates get adjusted most of the time the
rates get adjusted most of the time the
rates get adjusted most of the time the budget amount does not change. So it
budget amount does not change. So it
budget amount does not change. So it just means fewer hours. It doesn't
just means fewer hours. It doesn't
just means fewer hours. It doesn't increase the line.
increase the line.
increase the line. >> Gotcha.
>> Gotcha.
>> Gotcha. >> Uh so overall we're anticipating a net
>> Uh so overall we're anticipating a net
>> Uh so overall we're anticipating a net reduction of about 32,000 in local
reduction of about 32,000 in local
reduction of about 32,000 in local planning contracts.
planning contracts.
planning contracts. >> That's affecting your bottom or that's
>> That's affecting your bottom or that's
>> That's affecting your bottom or that's for staff. Most of those dollars.
for staff. Most of those dollars.
for staff. Most of those dollars. >> That's right. Those are almost entirely
>> That's right. Those are almost entirely
>> That's right. Those are almost entirely going to salaries. That's right.
going to salaries. That's right.
going to salaries. That's right. >> Um other income. Uh again, it's always a
>> Um other income. Uh again, it's always a
>> Um other income. Uh again, it's always a projection, but we are projecting a drop
projection, but we are projecting a drop
projection, but we are projecting a drop in interest income because interest
in interest income because interest
in interest income because interest rates have gone down.
rates have gone down.
rates have gone down. >> So, I'm going to flip over now on to the
>> So, I'm going to flip over now on to the
>> So, I'm going to flip over now on to the next page.
next page.
next page. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> What's the uh what's the line I guess
>> What's the uh what's the line I guess
>> What's the uh what's the line I guess below interest income is NRTC Foundation
below interest income is NRTC Foundation
below interest income is NRTC Foundation 2000 to 8,000.
2000 to 8,000.
2000 to 8,000. >> So, NRPC Foundation um I think as most
>> So, NRPC Foundation um I think as most
>> So, NRPC Foundation um I think as most people know NRPC does have a foundation.
people know NRPC does have a foundation.
people know NRPC does have a foundation. It's a separate entity. We do provide
It's a separate entity. We do provide
It's a separate entity. We do provide staff report uh support for that. And so
staff report uh support for that. And so
staff report uh support for that. And so we are proposing an increase in the
we are proposing an increase in the
we are proposing an increase in the staff support. This year was $2,000.
staff support. This year was $2,000.
staff support. This year was $2,000. We're proposing to increase it to
We're proposing to increase it to
We're proposing to increase it to $8,000. And that's based on what our
$8,000. And that's based on what our
$8,000. And that's based on what our past history has been for what it
past history has been for what it
past history has been for what it actually costs.
actually costs.
actually costs. >> And that hasn't been approved yet,
>> And that hasn't been approved yet,
>> And that hasn't been approved yet, >> nor has it gone to the foundation for
>> nor has it gone to the foundation for
>> nor has it gone to the foundation for review.
review.
review. >> So we are putting it in the budget.
>> So we are putting it in the budget.
>> So we are putting it in the budget. So this year we were about 16 $16,000 in
So this year we were about 16 $16,000 in
So this year we were about 16 $16,000 in the red essentially
the red essentially
the red essentially 6,000 I said 16.
6,000 I said 16.
6,000 I said 16. So turning the page um is what we see is
So turning the page um is what we see is
So turning the page um is what we see is the DOT uh that's DOT highway planning.
the DOT uh that's DOT highway planning.
the DOT uh that's DOT highway planning. So this is um our uh DOT funding uh that
So this is um our uh DOT funding uh that
So this is um our uh DOT funding uh that supports a lot of the planning work that
supports a lot of the planning work that
supports a lot of the planning work that we do, transportation planning work that
we do, transportation planning work that
we do, transportation planning work that we do. Uh that is a two-year contract.
we do. Uh that is a two-year contract.
we do. Uh that is a two-year contract. So, we uh this year we're in the first
So, we uh this year we're in the first
So, we uh this year we're in the first year of that two-year contract. Next
year of that two-year contract. Next
year of that two-year contract. Next year will obviously be in the second
year will obviously be in the second
year will obviously be in the second year of that contract. Um so, this is
year of that contract. Um so, this is
year of that contract. Um so, this is our best estimate of what's going to
our best estimate of what's going to
our best estimate of what's going to carry over from this year to next year
carry over from this year to next year
carry over from this year to next year in each category. So, again, I can we
in each category. So, again, I can we
in each category. So, again, I can we can talk about different line items. Um
can talk about different line items. Um
can talk about different line items. Um but the bottom line is is that we
but the bottom line is is that we
but the bottom line is is that we anticipate about a $27,500
anticipate about a $27,500
anticipate about a $27,500 increase uh for next year. That mean
increase uh for next year. That mean
increase uh for next year. That mean that's because we didn't spend that
that's because we didn't spend that
that's because we didn't spend that amount this year. So it carries over. So
amount this year. So it carries over. So
amount this year. So it carries over. So it's it's not a increase in the total
it's it's not a increase in the total
it's it's not a increase in the total amount of funding available.
amount of funding available.
amount of funding available. So overall total resources are projected
So overall total resources are projected
So overall total resources are projected to increase by just over $4,000.
to increase by just over $4,000.
to increase by just over $4,000. Again, keeping in mind um about $70,000
Again, keeping in mind um about $70,000
Again, keeping in mind um about $70,000 of our total increase is actually
of our total increase is actually
of our total increase is actually contractual. So, you'll see that as we
contractual. So, you'll see that as we
contractual. So, you'll see that as we go down in terms of costs
go down in terms of costs
go down in terms of costs costs um again in an effort to try to
costs um again in an effort to try to
costs um again in an effort to try to control costs, probably the biggest
control costs, probably the biggest
control costs, probably the biggest changes that you'll see um are capital
changes that you'll see um are capital
changes that you'll see um are capital expenditures. So, we are proposing to
expenditures. So, we are proposing to
expenditures. So, we are proposing to drop those from 20 to 10. That's mainly
drop those from 20 to 10. That's mainly
drop those from 20 to 10. That's mainly traffic counting equipment.
traffic counting equipment.
traffic counting equipment. A lot of these other items are
A lot of these other items are
A lot of these other items are relatively small adjustments. Those are
relatively small adjustments. Those are
relatively small adjustments. Those are based on either um changes that we know
based on either um changes that we know
based on either um changes that we know um are coming um or what we anticipate.
um are coming um or what we anticipate.
um are coming um or what we anticipate. So there's not most of these are
So there's not most of these are
So there's not most of these are relatively small changes as we go down.
relatively small changes as we go down.
relatively small changes as we go down. Um the biggie again I've kind of harped
Um the biggie again I've kind of harped
Um the biggie again I've kind of harped on it but you'll see the $72,000
on it but you'll see the $72,000
on it but you'll see the $72,000 increase in professional services.
increase in professional services.
increase in professional services. That's the contractual services for
That's the contractual services for
That's the contractual services for engineering that I mentioned earlier for
engineering that I mentioned earlier for
engineering that I mentioned earlier for Robinson Pond and also um for reviewing
Robinson Pond and also um for reviewing
Robinson Pond and also um for reviewing uh projects that may be presented uh as
uh projects that may be presented uh as
uh projects that may be presented uh as part of a 10-year plan process. U so
part of a 10-year plan process. U so
part of a 10-year plan process. U so again that's
again that's
again that's in essence that offsets that $4,000 is
in essence that offsets that $4,000 is
in essence that offsets that $4,000 is kind of offset by that increase. Moving
kind of offset by that increase. Moving
kind of offset by that increase. Moving on. Um yes. So just didn't know how far
on. Um yes. So just didn't know how far
on. Um yes. So just didn't know how far on you we're going to go. So next line
on you we're going to go. So next line
on you we're going to go. So next line down
down
down >> on that.
>> on that.
>> on that. >> Um are we expecting staff changes? Are
>> Um are we expecting staff changes? Are
>> Um are we expecting staff changes? Are there
there
there >> that's where I'm going next. So yes. So
>> that's where I'm going next. So yes. So
>> that's where I'm going next. So yes. So um we [clears throat] are you seeing a
um we [clears throat] are you seeing a
um we [clears throat] are you seeing a pretty significant $60,000 reduction in
pretty significant $60,000 reduction in
pretty significant $60,000 reduction in staff. So that comes from two places.
staff. So that comes from two places.
staff. So that comes from two places. that comes from a full we have a
that comes from a full we have a
that comes from a full we have a full-time position uh that is now vacant
full-time position uh that is now vacant
full-time position uh that is now vacant and our intent is to replace that with a
and our intent is to replace that with a
and our intent is to replace that with a partner position. So that's a
partner position. So that's a
partner position. So that's a significant chunk of that savings.
significant chunk of that savings.
significant chunk of that savings. Staffing wise, we think that works. Uh,
Staffing wise, we think that works. Uh,
Staffing wise, we think that works. Uh, but you know, end of the day, less
but you know, end of the day, less
but you know, end of the day, less revenue, you know, less staff time dem
revenue, you know, less staff time dem
revenue, you know, less staff time dem less demand on staff time. That always
less demand on staff time. That always
less demand on staff time. That always doesn't line up perfectly, but so that's
doesn't line up perfectly, but so that's
doesn't line up perfectly, but so that's where you're seeing that. We also have a
where you're seeing that. We also have a
where you're seeing that. We also have a um an employee who is essentially a
um an employee who is essentially a
um an employee who is essentially a contractor who is part-time uh fully
contractor who is part-time uh fully
contractor who is part-time uh fully remote is not in uh the office at all.
remote is not in uh the office at all.
remote is not in uh the office at all. It's a fairly small position. So we do
It's a fairly small position. So we do
It's a fairly small position. So we do propose to eliminate that bring that
propose to eliminate that bring that
propose to eliminate that bring that work which is transportation related
work which is transportation related
work which is transportation related work in apps. So that's what accounts
work in apps. So that's what accounts
work in apps. So that's what accounts for that $60,000
for that $60,000
for that $60,000 uh decrease on the salary line obviously
uh decrease on the salary line obviously
uh decrease on the salary line obviously that's pretty significant and um moving
that's pretty significant and um moving
that's pretty significant and um moving on.
on.
on. >> Wait question.
>> Wait question.
>> Wait question. >> Yes. Go.
>> Yes. Go.
>> Yes. Go. >> So by bringing the modeling process in
>> So by bringing the modeling process in
>> So by bringing the modeling process in house
house
house >> yes
>> yes
>> yes >> are those billable hours under some
>> are those billable hours under some
>> are those billable hours under some contract?
contract?
contract? >> Yes. That's a line item in the UPW under
>> Yes. That's a line item in the UPW under
>> Yes. That's a line item in the UPW under >> the UPW. Okay. Thank you.
>> the UPW. Okay. Thank you.
>> the UPW. Okay. Thank you. >> And then I'm assuming we've had enough
>> And then I'm assuming we've had enough
>> And then I'm assuming we've had enough time to train our staff to handle the
time to train our staff to handle the
time to train our staff to handle the model.
model.
model. >> We're actually not proposing to go to
>> We're actually not proposing to go to
>> We're actually not proposing to go to zero on that part-time position. Uh
zero on that part-time position. Uh
zero on that part-time position. Uh we're going to partially fund it for six
we're going to partially fund it for six
we're going to partially fund it for six months.
months.
months. >> Uh anticipating that there'll be ramping
>> Uh anticipating that there'll be ramping
>> Uh anticipating that there'll be ramping up
up
up >> transition. Yes.
>> transition. Yes.
>> transition. Yes. >> Ramping up in training. Do do you
>> Ramping up in training. Do do you
>> Ramping up in training. Do do you anticipate with the changing of work any
anticipate with the changing of work any
anticipate with the changing of work any skills mix issues where we might need to
skills mix issues where we might need to
skills mix issues where we might need to train current staff to assume some of
train current staff to assume some of
train current staff to assume some of the newer projects or vice versa, right?
the newer projects or vice versa, right?
the newer projects or vice versa, right? >> Um,
>> Um,
>> Um, >> follow me.
>> follow me.
>> follow me. >> Yes. Uh, not really at this point.
>> Yes. Uh, not really at this point.
>> Yes. Uh, not really at this point. >> Okay. um you know in in the case of that
>> Okay. um you know in in the case of that
>> Okay. um you know in in the case of that particular um you know the modeling we
particular um you know the modeling we
particular um you know the modeling we have somebody on staff who has capacity
have somebody on staff who has capacity
have somebody on staff who has capacity has capability still needs training
has capability still needs training
has capability still needs training still needs on boarding but we think
still needs on boarding but we think
still needs on boarding but we think that that's something that we can do and
that that's something that we can do and
that that's something that we can do and um you know other in terms of the
um you know other in terms of the
um you know other in terms of the part-time position or the full-time
part-time position or the full-time
part-time position or the full-time position that's going part-time we're
position that's going part-time we're
position that's going part-time we're very confident that we can sort that
very confident that we can sort that
very confident that we can sort that with a staff of 13 people you're always
with a staff of 13 people you're always
with a staff of 13 people you're always balancing and you know do we have the
balancing and you know do we have the
balancing and you know do we have the skills. Um so that that's always
skills. Um so that that's always
skills. Um so that that's always something that is a challenge but we're
something that is a challenge but we're
something that is a challenge but we're pretty comfortable that we can make that
pretty comfortable that we can make that
pretty comfortable that we can make that >> because there is a decreased staff
>> because there is a decreased staff
>> because there is a decreased staff development as well and
development as well and
development as well and >> yes there is
>> yes there is
>> yes there is >> just wanted to make sure we didn't have
>> just wanted to make sure we didn't have
>> just wanted to make sure we didn't have a skills pick issue or whatever.
a skills pick issue or whatever.
a skills pick issue or whatever. Uh so bottom line um you'll see that
Uh so bottom line um you'll see that
Uh so bottom line um you'll see that naked with these reductions there would
naked with these reductions there would
naked with these reductions there would be a net positive of $4,145.
be a net positive of $4,145.
be a net positive of $4,145. That's actually not a net positive
That's actually not a net positive
That's actually not a net positive because if you go up to uh the line item
because if you go up to uh the line item
because if you go up to uh the line item that says reserve fund. Uh typically
that says reserve fund. Uh typically
that says reserve fund. Uh typically what we've tried to do like last year we
what we've tried to do like last year we
what we've tried to do like last year we had $7,400 going into our reserve fund.
had $7,400 going into our reserve fund.
had $7,400 going into our reserve fund. This shows um just about $9,000 coming
This shows um just about $9,000 coming
This shows um just about $9,000 coming out of our reserve fund. So, it's really
out of our reserve fund. So, it's really
out of our reserve fund. So, it's really a net deficit of about $5,000.
a net deficit of about $5,000.
a net deficit of about $5,000. We're pretty comfortable that we can
We're pretty comfortable that we can
We're pretty comfortable that we can manage that. Um, but so this budget
manage that. Um, but so this budget
manage that. Um, but so this budget doesn't show a net positive. It actually
doesn't show a net positive. It actually
doesn't show a net positive. It actually shows a net negative of about $5,000.
shows a net negative of about $5,000.
shows a net negative of about $5,000. But overall, we think we can make it
But overall, we think we can make it
But overall, we think we can make it more efficient.
more efficient.
more efficient. Jay, I don't think it's out of turn move
Jay, I don't think it's out of turn move
Jay, I don't think it's out of turn move here with the rest of the commissioners
here with the rest of the commissioners
here with the rest of the commissioners here who are representing your member
here who are representing your member
here who are representing your member communities that the change from a
communities that the change from a
communities that the change from a full-time to a part-time is actually
full-time to a part-time is actually
full-time to a part-time is actually within the finance department. Yes. So,
within the finance department. Yes. So,
within the finance department. Yes. So, it's not a planner
it's not a planner
it's not a planner um on that side of the work, if you
um on that side of the work, if you
um on that side of the work, if you will. I think that's an important
will. I think that's an important
will. I think that's an important factor. And the other piece is that some
factor. And the other piece is that some
factor. And the other piece is that some of that work will be allocated back to
of that work will be allocated back to
of that work will be allocated back to Kate for some of the higher end. So just
Kate for some of the higher end. So just
Kate for some of the higher end. So just to understand what's happening behind
to understand what's happening behind
to understand what's happening behind the scenes I think is important too.
the scenes I think is important too.
the scenes I think is important too. >> That yeah that is a good point because
>> That yeah that is a good point because
>> That yeah that is a good point because that that is what we're doing. So
that that is what we're doing. So
that that is what we're doing. So essentially um you know Kate has been
essentially um you know Kate has been
essentially um you know Kate has been our finance director and uh so she will
our finance director and uh so she will
our finance director and uh so she will be assuming basically the higher level
be assuming basically the higher level
be assuming basically the higher level functions on the finance side and what
functions on the finance side and what
functions on the finance side and what we'll be doing is bringing on a
we'll be doing is bringing on a
we'll be doing is bringing on a part-time bookkeeper handle things like
part-time bookkeeper handle things like
part-time bookkeeper handle things like actually paying bills and payroll
actually paying bills and payroll
actually paying bills and payroll >> which is the same model we tried to use
>> which is the same model we tried to use
>> which is the same model we tried to use before
before
before >> which is book that that's exactly right
>> which is book that that's exactly right
>> which is book that that's exactly right before Kate came on board um as our
before Kate came on board um as our
before Kate came on board um as our full-time finance director we had a
full-time finance director we had a
full-time finance director we had a part-time bookkeeping position
part-time bookkeeping position
part-time bookkeeping position essentially. So that's the model that
essentially. So that's the model that
essentially. So that's the model that we'll be going back to and we think we
we'll be going back to and we think we
we'll be going back to and we think we can make that work.
>> Well, yeah.
>> Well, yeah. >> Yeah. So, how many staff does that
>> Yeah. So, how many staff does that
>> Yeah. So, how many staff does that represent then? Two 2 million7.
represent then? Two 2 million7.
represent then? Two 2 million7. What is your staff level?
What is your staff level?
What is your staff level? >> 13, but that also include that includes
>> 13, but that also include that includes
>> 13, but that also include that includes part-time. So, 12 FTE. So 12 FTEES and
part-time. So, 12 FTE. So 12 FTEES and
part-time. So, 12 FTE. So 12 FTEES and that's what was it last this past year
that's what was it last this past year
that's what was it last this past year about the same
about the same
about the same >> uh no uh higher because that we're going
>> uh no uh higher because that we're going
>> uh no uh higher because that we're going a full-time position is shifting to a
a full-time position is shifting to a
a full-time position is shifting to a part right
part right
part right >> to about 12 and uh just another minor
>> to about 12 and uh just another minor
>> to about 12 and uh just another minor request I always ask could you would you
request I always ask could you would you
request I always ask could you would you mind putting one through X on the left
mind putting one through X on the left
mind putting one through X on the left hand column just it's just easier to
hand column just it's just easier to
hand column just it's just easier to follow if Nice. Yeah, that's a good
follow if Nice. Yeah, that's a good
follow if Nice. Yeah, that's a good idea.
>> any other questions on
>> any other questions on the 2027 budget. And just to note, I
the 2027 budget. And just to note, I
the 2027 budget. And just to note, I think as as many people are familiar
think as as many people are familiar
think as as many people are familiar with all even though staffing is going
with all even though staffing is going
with all even though staffing is going down, benefits are still going up in
>> anyone else. I don't see anyone hands
>> anyone else. I don't see anyone hands raised on the Y.
raised on the Y.
raised on the Y. >> We'll make a motion to uh recommend that
>> We'll make a motion to uh recommend that
>> We'll make a motion to uh recommend that the commission approve the RPC fiscal
the commission approve the RPC fiscal
the commission approve the RPC fiscal year 27 proposed budget.
year 27 proposed budget.
year 27 proposed budget. First
>> Chris.
>> Chris. >> Yes. I'm good. Sorry, I couldn't find my
>> Yes. I'm good. Sorry, I couldn't find my
>> Yes. I'm good. Sorry, I couldn't find my mute button.
mute button.
mute button. Uh, is that a yes or a no on the
Uh, is that a yes or a no on the
Uh, is that a yes or a no on the >> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. Thank you. We also have Jason Hennessy
Thank you. We also have Jason Hennessy
Thank you. We also have Jason Hennessy on Zoom.
on Zoom.
on Zoom. >> Oh, he's on the line now.
>> Oh, he's on the line now.
>> Oh, he's on the line now. >> Okay, Jason.
>> Okay, Jason.
>> Okay, Jason. >> Yes. All right.
>> Yes. All right.
>> Yes. All right. >> I saw him.
>> I saw him.
>> I saw him. >> William was here for part of it and now
>> William was here for part of it and now
>> William was here for part of it and now he's on William's gone.
he's on William's gone.
he's on William's gone. >> William.
>> William.
>> William. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> All right. I
>> All right. I
>> All right. I >> check. I
>> check. I
>> check. I >> Yes. [clears throat] I
>> Yes. [clears throat] I
>> Yes. [clears throat] I >> I
>> I
>> I >> I
>> I
>> I >> I
next
next annual grant and contract authorization.
annual grant and contract authorization.
annual grant and contract authorization. So this is this is a standard
So this is this is a standard
So this is this is a standard authorization we do every year that
authorization we do every year that
authorization we do every year that essentially authorizes us to apply for
essentially authorizes us to apply for
essentially authorizes us to apply for grants.
grants.
grants. >> I'll move as proposed.
>> I'll move as proposed.
>> I'll move as proposed. >> Say that again.
>> Say that again.
>> Say that again. >> Move as proposed.
>> Move as proposed.
>> Move as proposed. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Second.
>> Second.
>> Second. >> Two seconds. All right. First and a
>> Two seconds. All right. First and a
>> Two seconds. All right. First and a second.
second.
second. >> Thanks, guys.
>> Thanks, guys.
>> Thanks, guys. >> All right. Roll call. Any other
>> All right. Roll call. Any other
>> All right. Roll call. Any other discussion though?
>> All right. Chris,
>> All right. Chris, >> we see the proposed motion on the
>> we see the proposed motion on the
>> we see the proposed motion on the paperwork.
paperwork.
paperwork. >> I'm sorry. I guess I lost I didn't I
>> I'm sorry. I guess I lost I didn't I
>> I'm sorry. I guess I lost I didn't I just vote for to approve the budget?
just vote for to approve the budget?
just vote for to approve the budget? >> Yeah, we're on the next item, which is
>> Yeah, we're on the next item, which is
>> Yeah, we're on the next item, which is the ransom contract allowing Jay to
the ransom contract allowing Jay to
the ransom contract allowing Jay to sign. I know the annual grant contract.
sign. I know the annual grant contract.
sign. I know the annual grant contract. >> I missed that.
>> I missed that.
>> I missed that. >> That's okay.
>> That's okay.
>> That's okay. >> Yes, I approve it.
>> Yes, I approve it.
>> Yes, I approve it. >> Right. Uh Jason,
>> Right. Uh Jason,
>> Right. Uh Jason, >> yes.
Objection.
Objection. >> A hearty. Yes.
>> A hearty. Yes.
>> A hearty. Yes. [laughter]
[laughter]
[laughter] >> Yes. Yes. Yes. I
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. I
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. I >> I
>> I
>> I >> I
>> I
>> I >> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> I
>> I
>> I >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Bye.
>> Yes. Bye.
>> Yes. Bye. >> All right.
>> Starting of the fiscal year 2028 news.
>> Starting of the fiscal year 2028 news. So, everyone should have a spreadsheet
So, everyone should have a spreadsheet
So, everyone should have a spreadsheet in your packet right after the annual
in your packet right after the annual
in your packet right after the annual grant um author or contract
grant um author or contract
grant um author or contract authorization.
authorization.
authorization. So the the way just for refresher for
So the the way just for refresher for
So the the way just for refresher for those who don't know um the way NRBC
those who don't know um the way NRBC
those who don't know um the way NRBC does the dues is it's a formula based on
does the dues is it's a formula based on
does the dues is it's a formula based on the uh population of each town the
the uh population of each town the
the uh population of each town the percentage that makes up of the region
percentage that makes up of the region
percentage that makes up of the region the equalized valuation of each town and
the equalized valuation of each town and
the equalized valuation of each town and the percent that that makes up of the
the percent that that makes up of the
the percent that that makes up of the region. It's 2024 because that's the
region. It's 2024 because that's the
region. It's 2024 because that's the most recent year. We have estimates for
most recent year. We have estimates for
most recent year. We have estimates for both items and um and then you kind of
both items and um and then you kind of
both items and um and then you kind of see the combined. So, so that's how the
see the combined. So, so that's how the
see the combined. So, so that's how the formula works. And then um what you see
formula works. And then um what you see
formula works. And then um what you see are three alternative columns. Those are
are three alternative columns. Those are
are three alternative columns. Those are the only three, but those are the three
the only three, but those are the three
the only three, but those are the three that we've done. So the first one you
that we've done. So the first one you
that we've done. So the first one you can see there's the um adopted FY27
can see there's the um adopted FY27
can see there's the um adopted FY27 dues in the light green and then next to
dues in the light green and then next to
dues in the light green and then next to that you see what would it look like
that you see what would it look like
that you see what would it look like level funded and so level funded you're
level funded and so level funded you're
level funded and so level funded you're still going to see slight differences
still going to see slight differences
still going to see slight differences from town to town and again that's just
from town to town and again that's just
from town to town and again that's just based on the changes in valuation and
based on the changes in valuation and
based on the changes in valuation and population.
population.
population. So that is the the first um you know
So that is the the first um you know
So that is the the first um you know column essentially that you see. The
column essentially that you see. The
column essentially that you see. The next is uh what a 3% increase would look
next is uh what a 3% increase would look
next is uh what a 3% increase would look like. And then again, you see what that
like. And then again, you see what that
like. And then again, you see what that difference is uh for each town. And then
difference is uh for each town. And then
difference is uh for each town. And then the last column is a 5% increase. Uh and
the last column is a 5% increase. Uh and
the last column is a 5% increase. Uh and once again, you can see the total and
once again, you can see the total and
once again, you can see the total and then what the difference would be town
then what the difference would be town
then what the difference would be town by town.
by town.
by town. And the uh anybody from the executive
And the uh anybody from the executive
And the uh anybody from the executive committee wants to speak to but the
committee wants to speak to but the
committee wants to speak to but the executive committee did make a
executive committee did make a
executive committee did make a recommendation. the ex the executive
recommendation. the ex the executive
recommendation. the ex the executive committee voted uh 8 to1 to recommend uh
committee voted uh 8 to1 to recommend uh
committee voted uh 8 to1 to recommend uh 5% increase. Uh it's a a very tiny
5% increase. Uh it's a a very tiny
5% increase. Uh it's a a very tiny amount of money. Uh you look at the big
amount of money. Uh you look at the big
amount of money. Uh you look at the big picture. Last year uh we [clears throat]
picture. Last year uh we [clears throat]
picture. Last year uh we [clears throat] both the executive committee and the
both the executive committee and the
both the executive committee and the full commission uh kept the dues level
full commission uh kept the dues level
full commission uh kept the dues level funded. Uh and this year uh in 20 the
funded. Uh and this year uh in 20 the
funded. Uh and this year uh in 20 the fiscal year 27 federal government is
fiscal year 27 federal government is
fiscal year 27 federal government is looking at uh 3.8 or 3.9%
looking at uh 3.8 or 3.9%
looking at uh 3.8 or 3.9% uh cost of living increase and the
uh cost of living increase and the
uh cost of living increase and the executive committee
executive committee
executive committee has been uh struggling with the what we
has been uh struggling with the what we
has been uh struggling with the what we were just talking about on in the budget
were just talking about on in the budget
were just talking about on in the budget department with uh not balancing the
department with uh not balancing the
department with uh not balancing the books of the uh business here. And so
books of the uh business here. And so
books of the uh business here. And so this would be for 2028 and our
this would be for 2028 and our
this would be for 2028 and our recommendation is that you guys approve
recommendation is that you guys approve
recommendation is that you guys approve a 5% increase.
>> So Tim, did you say that starting in
>> So Tim, did you say that starting in July there there was no increase? Is
July there there was no increase? Is
July there there was no increase? Is that what we voted last year?
that what we voted last year?
that what we voted last year? >> Last year we
>> Last year we
>> Last year we >> last year%
>> last year%
>> last year% I was I was I'm sorry I misspoke. 3%
I was I was I'm sorry I misspoke. 3%
I was I was I'm sorry I misspoke. 3% last year. So, so you made a level
last year. So, so you made a level
last year. So, so you made a level funding assumption for the budget.
funding assumption for the budget.
funding assumption for the budget. >> Uh, no. So, this is for FY28. We always
>> Uh, no. So, this is for FY28. We always
>> Uh, no. So, this is for FY28. We always are a year advanced budget.
are a year advanced budget.
are a year advanced budget. >> That's 27.
>> That's 27.
>> That's 27. >> The budget we approved was FY27. That
>> The budget we approved was FY27. That
>> The budget we approved was FY27. That being the 3%.
being the 3%.
being the 3%. >> Got it.
>> We do, it's a little confusing, but we
>> We do, it's a little confusing, but we always do it a year in advance so that
always do it a year in advance so that
always do it a year in advance so that towns can plan for the budgets.
towns can plan for the budgets.
towns can plan for the budgets. Well, thank you.
Well, thank you.
Well, thank you. >> And as you saw, a lot of our grants are
>> And as you saw, a lot of our grants are
>> And as you saw, a lot of our grants are going away. So,
going away. So,
going away. So, a little bit from the town
>> in order for all of us to be able to
>> in order for all of us to be able to pick up the telephone.
>> Does anybody
>> Does anybody >> have any questions or want to discuss it
>> have any questions or want to discuss it
>> have any questions or want to discuss it or
or
or >> so? Uh guess I have two concerns.
>> so? Uh guess I have two concerns.
>> so? Uh guess I have two concerns. Obviously
Obviously
Obviously the big increase with cost of living for
the big increase with cost of living for
the big increase with cost of living for everyone going up. So, seems like 3%
everyone going up. So, seems like 3%
everyone going up. So, seems like 3% might be more appropriate. And uh I've
might be more appropriate. And uh I've
might be more appropriate. And uh I've always had trouble with the formula
always had trouble with the formula
always had trouble with the formula being based on equalized valuation
being based on equalized valuation
being based on equalized valuation instead of
instead of
instead of population.
>> The formula does both, right?
>> The formula does both, right? And you would like to see it do one or
And you would like to see it do one or
And you would like to see it do one or the other?
the other?
the other? >> Just population.
>> Just population.
>> Just population. >> Just population.
Oh, down. Yeah.
Oh, down. Yeah. [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> I'm in agreement with the 5% increase.
>> I'm in agreement with the 5% increase.
>> I'm in agreement with the 5% increase. Excuse me. Um
Excuse me. Um
Excuse me. Um because I think there's a lot of added
because I think there's a lot of added
because I think there's a lot of added value
value
value that's hidden with NRPC. I know uh
that's hidden with NRPC. I know uh
that's hidden with NRPC. I know uh whenever I look at our town. I mean
whenever I look at our town. I mean
whenever I look at our town. I mean it's increased a little bit but I I
it's increased a little bit but I I
it's increased a little bit but I I think the the added value that we get
think the the added value that we get
think the the added value that we get from NRPC is is really you have to
from NRPC is is really you have to
from NRPC is is really you have to weight that somehow because I think we
weight that somehow because I think we
weight that somehow because I think we get a lot of value out of more than what
get a lot of value out of more than what
get a lot of value out of more than what we're actually paying our dues. So I
we're actually paying our dues. So I
we're actually paying our dues. So I appreciate that. So I fullheartedly
appreciate that. So I fullheartedly
appreciate that. So I fullheartedly agree to the 5% increase.
agree to the 5% increase.
agree to the 5% increase. >> Yes. Thank you. Yes,
>> Yes. Thank you. Yes,
>> Yes. Thank you. Yes, >> Jay, can you just reiterate for where
>> Jay, can you just reiterate for where
>> Jay, can you just reiterate for where the majority of the fund really goes?
the majority of the fund really goes?
the majority of the fund really goes? >> Will you speak up a little bit?
>> Will you speak up a little bit?
>> Will you speak up a little bit? >> Yeah, I'm asking if Jay could um just
>> Yeah, I'm asking if Jay could um just
>> Yeah, I'm asking if Jay could um just reiterate for the full commission and
reiterate for the full commission and
reiterate for the full commission and for the minutes, where is this money
for the minutes, where is this money
for the minutes, where is this money typically used, these dues dollars? So,
typically used, these dues dollars? So,
typically used, these dues dollars? So, the the majority of the funds used go uh
the the majority of the funds used go uh
the the majority of the funds used go uh to match other grants, federal grants,
to match other grants, federal grants,
to match other grants, federal grants, um in particular, obviously the largest
um in particular, obviously the largest
um in particular, obviously the largest being the DOT funds. So um we match 10
being the DOT funds. So um we match 10
being the DOT funds. So um we match 10 that at 10%. So if you are looking at
that at 10%. So if you are looking at
that at 10%. So if you are looking at the budget that total amount of DOT
the budget that total amount of DOT
the budget that total amount of DOT funding we have to match 10% of that. So
funding we have to match 10% of that. So
funding we have to match 10% of that. So that's the biggest. We do have some
that's the biggest. We do have some
that's the biggest. We do have some other grants that also require match. So
other grants that also require match. So
other grants that also require match. So largest chunk goes there. The balance of
largest chunk goes there. The balance of
largest chunk goes there. The balance of it goes into kind of four buckets. So
it goes into kind of four buckets. So
it goes into kind of four buckets. So one it uh funds tax mapping for those
one it uh funds tax mapping for those
one it uh funds tax mapping for those communities who take advantage of our
communities who take advantage of our
communities who take advantage of our tax maps. So it it goes there. uh and
tax maps. So it it goes there. uh and
tax maps. So it it goes there. uh and some of the GIS work that we do that
some of the GIS work that we do that
some of the GIS work that we do that isn't related to a contract for other
isn't related to a contract for other
isn't related to a contract for other areas. Um we also do provide uh local
areas. Um we also do provide uh local
areas. Um we also do provide uh local municipal services. So a small service
municipal services. So a small service
municipal services. So a small service that the community wants. We've got an
that the community wants. We've got an
that the community wants. We've got an ordinance. Will you you know review it?
ordinance. Will you you know review it?
ordinance. Will you you know review it? Will you a phone call do some research
Will you a phone call do some research
Will you a phone call do some research on something? So that's a bucket that we
on something? So that's a bucket that we
on something? So that's a bucket that we can charge to. Uh energy aggregation. So
can charge to. Uh energy aggregation. So
can charge to. Uh energy aggregation. So we run the energy aggregation program.
we run the energy aggregation program.
we run the energy aggregation program. So for all the communities that
So for all the communities that
So for all the communities that participate in that that's uh deuce
participate in that that's uh deuce
participate in that that's uh deuce funded as well. So those are those are
funded as well. So those are those are
funded as well. So those are those are the real primary areas where it goes.
the real primary areas where it goes.
the real primary areas where it goes. >> You bring up a good point too because
>> You bring up a good point too because
>> You bring up a good point too because >> I don't know how this information gets
>> I don't know how this information gets
>> I don't know how this information gets distributed if it's an email just with
distributed if it's an email just with
distributed if it's an email just with chart but the write up saying where the
chart but the write up saying where the
chart but the write up saying where the money is going
money is going
money is going some towns right with $300 difference or
some towns right with $300 difference or
some towns right with $300 difference or whatever because everything you
whatever because everything you
whatever because everything you mentioned is helping these towns with
mentioned is helping these towns with
mentioned is helping these towns with the dues.
the dues.
the dues. >> So
>> So
>> So >> you think so? Maybe, you know, how do
>> you think so? Maybe, you know, how do
>> you think so? Maybe, you know, how do you usually just tell this? They just
you usually just tell this? They just
you usually just tell this? They just get the chart off they go. You hit the
get the chart off they go. You hit the
get the chart off they go. You hit the new box.
new box.
new box. >> It's really not in here. It doesn't
>> It's really not in here. It doesn't
>> It's really not in here. It doesn't break.
break.
break. >> Oh, okay. I was just saying, but if you
>> Oh, okay. I was just saying, but if you
>> Oh, okay. I was just saying, but if you could at least explain, write a letter
could at least explain, write a letter
could at least explain, write a letter explaining what the dues like for
explaining what the dues like for
explaining what the dues like for >> have a spreadsheet that does show where
>> have a spreadsheet that does show where
>> have a spreadsheet that does show where it goes. We just didn't
it goes. We just didn't
it goes. We just didn't >> Maybe we'll work on that on the
>> Maybe we'll work on that on the
>> Maybe we'll work on that on the executive committee right
executive committee right
executive committee right that would probably have
that would probably have
that would probably have they can they can explain to their
they can they can explain to their
they can they can explain to their boards why it's
boards why it's
boards why it's >> Kim. Can I also note that um also the
>> Kim. Can I also note that um also the
>> Kim. Can I also note that um also the annual reports that NRPC provides to
annual reports that NRPC provides to
annual reports that NRPC provides to each community um in December January
each community um in December January
each community um in December January for their for the town's annual reports
for their for the town's annual reports
for their for the town's annual reports >> does summarize
>> does summarize
>> does summarize um the work that we do that is dues
um the work that we do that is dues
um the work that we do that is dues related and project related. Okay.
related and project related. Okay.
related and project related. Okay. >> Um so so that's a good narrative.
>> Um so so that's a good narrative.
>> Um so so that's a good narrative. Um, [clears throat] and some of the ones
Um, [clears throat] and some of the ones
Um, [clears throat] and some of the ones that do have dollar rounds associated
that do have dollar rounds associated
that do have dollar rounds associated with them like GIS, the town reports,
with them like GIS, the town reports,
with them like GIS, the town reports, um, and things of that nature, um, are
um, and things of that nature, um, are
um, and things of that nature, um, are encompassed there.
encompassed there.
encompassed there. >> All right. I'll I'll get the annual
>> All right. I'll I'll get the annual
>> All right. I'll I'll get the annual report.
report.
report. So, give the information a look.
So, give the information a look.
So, give the information a look. >> All right.
>> All right.
>> All right. >> Yes. This is probably um an item for the
>> Yes. This is probably um an item for the
>> Yes. This is probably um an item for the executive committee, but whenever I see
executive committee, but whenever I see
executive committee, but whenever I see something like this, I think, all right,
something like this, I think, all right,
something like this, I think, all right, so what is it that you're not doing
so what is it that you're not doing
so what is it that you're not doing you'd like to be able to do?
you'd like to be able to do?
you'd like to be able to do? It's not reflected in the budgeting or
It's not reflected in the budgeting or
It's not reflected in the budgeting or in what's being funded by by the news.
in what's being funded by by the news.
in what's being funded by by the news. You're about to do a grant, for example,
You're about to do a grant, for example,
You're about to do a grant, for example, you're about to do a grant writing
you're about to do a grant writing
you're about to do a grant writing workshop, right? That thing just got
workshop, right? That thing just got
workshop, right? That thing just got launched.
launched.
launched. What if [clears throat] NRPC had a
What if [clears throat] NRPC had a
What if [clears throat] NRPC had a really rigorous grant writing, grant
really rigorous grant writing, grant
really rigorous grant writing, grant development, grant eligibility,
development, grant eligibility,
development, grant eligibility, clearing house, navigation capability
clearing house, navigation capability
clearing house, navigation capability um that [clears throat] towns could dip
um that [clears throat] towns could dip
um that [clears throat] towns could dip into and take advantage of. There's so
into and take advantage of. There's so
into and take advantage of. There's so much out there. It's so hard to navigate
much out there. It's so hard to navigate
much out there. It's so hard to navigate what that stuff is. And I know I mean,
what that stuff is. And I know I mean,
what that stuff is. And I know I mean, you just picked up a phone and called me
you just picked up a phone and called me
you just picked up a phone and called me from time to time. So is Matt, right?
from time to time. So is Matt, right?
from time to time. So is Matt, right? And said, "Hey, you ought to try this
And said, "Hey, you ought to try this
And said, "Hey, you ought to try this one." It's a long shot wonder. Um, but
one." It's a long shot wonder. Um, but
one." It's a long shot wonder. Um, but if that engine existed within RPC,
if that engine existed within RPC,
if that engine existed within RPC, that's just an example of something
that's just an example of something
that's just an example of something that's not really being done right now
that's not really being done right now
that's not really being done right now that I think could conceivably be
that I think could conceivably be
that I think could conceivably be really, really valuable to the group.
really, really valuable to the group.
really, really valuable to the group. So, it's a question for the executive.
So, it's a question for the executive.
So, it's a question for the executive. >> We recently went through at the
>> We recently went through at the
>> We recently went through at the executive committee level and part of
executive committee level and part of
executive committee level and part of the review and goal setting went through
the review and goal setting went through
the review and goal setting went through the um strategy list, whatever the hell
the um strategy list, whatever the hell
the um strategy list, whatever the hell that document,
that document,
that document, >> the strategy. Thank you.
>> the strategy. Thank you.
>> the strategy. Thank you. And it was kind of an eyeopener when
And it was kind of an eyeopener when
And it was kind of an eyeopener when Kate went through and you know this was
Kate went through and you know this was
Kate went through and you know this was something that was identified as a
something that was identified as a
something that was identified as a priority but we haven't been a we we and
priority but we haven't been a we we and
priority but we haven't been a we we and our PC staff haven't been able to work
our PC staff haven't been able to work
our PC staff haven't been able to work on it because we don't have the staff or
on it because we don't have the staff or
on it because we don't have the staff or you know going through and there are a
you know going through and there are a
you know going through and there are a lot of things that have been identified
lot of things that have been identified
lot of things that have been identified that again are part of the mission
that again are part of the mission
that again are part of the mission >> y
>> y
>> y >> and part of the priority set but because
>> and part of the priority set but because
>> and part of the priority set but because of staffing and funding and grants
But you asked what would we like to do
But you asked what would we like to do that we're not doing. That's an example
that we're not doing. That's an example
that we're not doing. That's an example of it.
of it.
of it. >> See your email
>> See your email
>> See your email >> right in that list.
>> right in that list.
>> right in that list. >> What if [clears throat] the email just
>> What if [clears throat] the email just
>> What if [clears throat] the email just went out on the grant writing
went out on the grant writing
went out on the grant writing assistance, right?
assistance, right?
assistance, right? >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> So
>> So
>> So >> yeah,
>> yeah,
>> yeah, >> that was one of your goals.
>> that was one of your goals.
>> that was one of your goals. >> So yes, I might go to it.
>> So yes, I might go to it.
>> So yes, I might go to it. I have to reach out.
I have to reach out.
I have to reach out. >> It'd be interesting to know what this is
>> It'd be interesting to know what this is
>> It'd be interesting to know what this is things you aren't able to get to because
things you aren't able to get to because
things you aren't able to get to because of staffing. I mean, you you rais a good
of staffing. I mean, you you rais a good
of staffing. I mean, you you rais a good point because what um what Jared's
point because what um what Jared's
point because what um what Jared's alluding to
alluding to
alluding to through the statement of strategy
through the statement of strategy
through the statement of strategy because we track it to see kind of where
because we track it to see kind of where
because we track it to see kind of where we are. Uh obviously if we didn't, it
we are. Uh obviously if we didn't, it
we are. Uh obviously if we didn't, it wouldn't be a worthwhile, you know,
wouldn't be a worthwhile, you know,
wouldn't be a worthwhile, you know, document and you know, what have we
document and you know, what have we
document and you know, what have we accomplished? What have we accomplished?
accomplished? What have we accomplished?
accomplished? What have we accomplished? And there's kind of like little
And there's kind of like little
And there's kind of like little summaries in it. I think that's
summaries in it. I think that's
summaries in it. I think that's something we could polish up, you know,
something we could polish up, you know,
something we could polish up, you know, pretty up and we could share. I think
pretty up and we could share. I think
pretty up and we could share. I think it'd be good for everybody to see. I
it'd be good for everybody to see. I
it'd be good for everybody to see. I think I think Kate did a fairly nice one
think I think Kate did a fairly nice one
think I think Kate did a fairly nice one or two pager.
or two pager.
or two pager. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> you know that certainly can be can be
>> you know that certainly can be can be
>> you know that certainly can be can be distributed or updated to the current
distributed or updated to the current
distributed or updated to the current time.
time.
time. >> And in some cases where we haven't done
>> And in some cases where we haven't done
>> And in some cases where we haven't done you know been able to do as much as we
you know been able to do as much as we
you know been able to do as much as we wanted to that's noted and funding
wanted to that's noted and funding
wanted to that's noted and funding constraint like you noted as
constraint like you noted as
constraint like you noted as >> I know and as the executive committee
>> I know and as the executive committee
>> I know and as the executive committee one of the things we always encourage is
one of the things we always encourage is
one of the things we always encourage is staff development. Uh we don't want to
staff development. Uh we don't want to
staff development. Uh we don't want to lose the good people we have to other
lose the good people we have to other
lose the good people we have to other places. Um, but staff development at
places. Um, but staff development at
places. Um, but staff development at times can get very expensive. If it's
times can get very expensive. If it's
times can get very expensive. If it's something they can drive to and conquer,
something they can drive to and conquer,
something they can drive to and conquer, that's easy. If it's a conference in
that's easy. If it's a conference in
that's easy. If it's a conference in Minneapolis they have to fly to, um, it
Minneapolis they have to fly to, um, it
Minneapolis they have to fly to, um, it can get very expensive. So um those kind
can get very expensive. So um those kind
can get very expensive. So um those kind of opportunities have kind of been
of opportunities have kind of been
of opportunities have kind of been curled back a little bit just because of
curled back a little bit just because of
curled back a little bit just because of the expense
the expense
the expense >> and and my understanding is that all the
>> and and my understanding is that all the
>> and and my understanding is that all the planning commissions are virtually
planning commissions are virtually
planning commissions are virtually identical in terms of the services that
identical in terms of the services that
identical in terms of the services that they provide but they have a different
they provide but they have a different
they provide but they have a different emphasis like this one is the emphasis
emphasis like this one is the emphasis
emphasis like this one is the emphasis is on transportation but they're
is on transportation but they're
is on transportation but they're relatively the same in terms of the
relatively the same in terms of the
relatively the same in terms of the services they provide. Could you repeat
services they provide. Could you repeat
services they provide. Could you repeat that literally that this machine over
that literally that this machine over
that literally that this machine over here?
here?
here? >> I'm sorry. Boy, usually too loud. Okay.
>> I'm sorry. Boy, usually too loud. Okay.
>> I'm sorry. Boy, usually too loud. Okay. So, my assumption is that the structure
So, my assumption is that the structure
So, my assumption is that the structure and the services that the other planning
and the services that the other planning
and the services that the other planning commissions provide are very similar to
commissions provide are very similar to
commissions provide are very similar to each other around the state and that
each other around the state and that
each other around the state and that some have different emphasis like we
some have different emphasis like we
some have different emphasis like we have an emphasis on transportation in
have an emphasis on transportation in
have an emphasis on transportation in this one.
this one.
this one. >> Is that true?
>> Is that true?
>> Is that true? >> So, it's it's partially true.
>> So, it's it's partially true.
>> So, it's it's partially true. >> There are certain things that all the
>> There are certain things that all the
>> There are certain things that all the planning commissions do. Um probably the
planning commissions do. Um probably the
planning commissions do. Um probably the biggest similarities are between the
biggest similarities are between the
biggest similarities are between the four that are the MPOs, four larger
four that are the MPOs, four larger
four that are the MPOs, four larger ones. Um so we are a lot more similar
ones. Um so we are a lot more similar
ones. Um so we are a lot more similar than what we call the rurals. Um so
than what we call the rurals. Um so
than what we call the rurals. Um so that's that is true but yeah and then
that's that is true but yeah and then
that's that is true but yeah and then yes there are different areas that we
yes there are different areas that we
yes there are different areas that we emphasize. So all of us of course do a
emphasize. So all of us of course do a
emphasize. So all of us of course do a regional housing needs assessment. All
regional housing needs assessment. All
regional housing needs assessment. All of us do a regional plan.
of us do a regional plan.
of us do a regional plan. >> Yeah. In terms of the data collected
>> Yeah. In terms of the data collected
>> Yeah. In terms of the data collected things like circuit writing almost all
things like circuit writing almost all
things like circuit writing almost all of us do that. There's give and take.
of us do that. There's give and take.
of us do that. There's give and take. Um, we have a much stronger GIS program
Um, we have a much stronger GIS program
Um, we have a much stronger GIS program than you know any other planning,
than you know any other planning,
than you know any other planning, right? That's our priority.
right? That's our priority.
right? That's our priority. >> Everybody else has to use granite.
>> Everybody else has to use granite.
>> Everybody else has to use granite. >> Yeah. Um, so there are some differences.
>> Yeah. Um, so there are some differences.
>> Yeah. Um, so there are some differences. You know, some will emphasize, you know,
You know, some will emphasize, you know,
You know, some will emphasize, you know, not surprising just given the nature of
not surprising just given the nature of
not surprising just given the nature of North Country Council does things
North Country Council does things
North Country Council does things differently than we do.
differently than we do.
differently than we do. >> Uh, but yeah, there is a lot of
>> Uh, but yeah, there is a lot of
>> Uh, but yeah, there is a lot of similarity.
similarity.
similarity. My reason for bringing that up, and
My reason for bringing that up, and
My reason for bringing that up, and again it's an executive committee thing,
again it's an executive committee thing,
again it's an executive committee thing, is when you look at that list of things
is when you look at that list of things
is when you look at that list of things we wish we could do. Um, are there
we wish we could do. Um, are there
we wish we could do. Um, are there resources that could be shared between
resources that could be shared between
resources that could be shared between planning commissions to actually create
planning commissions to actually create
planning commissions to actually create a center of expertise that could be
a center of expertise that could be
a center of expertise that could be shared?
shared?
shared? >> We talk about that all
>> We talk about that all
>> We talk about that all >> talk about it. Try it.
>> talk about it. Try it.
>> talk about it. Try it. >> Sorry, never mind.
>> Sorry, never mind.
>> Sorry, never mind. >> Talk about it tonight.
>> Talk about it tonight.
>> Talk about it tonight. >> And some things, as we as we discussed
>> And some things, as we as we discussed
>> And some things, as we as we discussed tonight, move slowly. So you got to take
tonight, move slowly. So you got to take
tonight, move slowly. So you got to take the shortterm approach
the shortterm approach
the shortterm approach >> while looking at the long-term solution,
>> while looking at the long-term solution,
>> while looking at the long-term solution, >> right? Our transportation model being
>> right? Our transportation model being
>> right? Our transportation model being one of those things and we've talked
one of those things and we've talked
one of those things and we've talked about having a unified model. Moving
about having a unified model. Moving
about having a unified model. Moving that forward seems to be a very very
that forward seems to be a very very
that forward seems to be a very very difficult thing to do. Um but yeah, it's
difficult thing to do. Um but yeah, it's
difficult thing to do. Um but yeah, it's it's definitely we've also talked about
it's definitely we've also talked about
it's definitely we've also talked about periodically among the regional planning
periodically among the regional planning
periodically among the regional planning commission sharing staff um you know
commission sharing staff um you know
commission sharing staff um you know >> for development reasons too, right? And
>> for development reasons too, right? And
>> for development reasons too, right? And um it for a wide variety of reasons that
um it for a wide variety of reasons that
um it for a wide variety of reasons that hasn't happened, but we've talked about
hasn't happened, but we've talked about
hasn't happened, but we've talked about it. Theoretically, it makes sense. Uh we
it. Theoretically, it makes sense. Uh we
it. Theoretically, it makes sense. Uh we do a little bit of sharing. We actually
do a little bit of sharing. We actually
do a little bit of sharing. We actually have one GIS person now helping out the
have one GIS person now helping out the
have one GIS person now helping out the Southern Hampshire Planning Commission
Southern Hampshire Planning Commission
Southern Hampshire Planning Commission because they're down.
because they're down.
because they're down. >> So, you know, we're doing a little bit
>> So, you know, we're doing a little bit
>> So, you know, we're doing a little bit of that and that that's actually a
of that and that that's actually a
of that and that that's actually a really great thing.
really great thing.
really great thing. >> That's the first time we've done that
>> That's the first time we've done that
>> That's the first time we've done that where we've actually shared one of our
where we've actually shared one of our
where we've actually shared one of our people. Well, my thanks to the executive
people. Well, my thanks to the executive
people. Well, my thanks to the executive committee. Obviously, you're on it.
committee. Obviously, you're on it.
committee. Obviously, you're on it. >> Doesn't mean resolved it. [laughter]
>> Doesn't mean resolved it. [laughter]
>> Doesn't mean resolved it. [laughter] >> Well, maybe you're asking the wrong
>> Well, maybe you're asking the wrong
>> Well, maybe you're asking the wrong question.
question.
question. >> Does anyone else have any other
>> Does anyone else have any other
>> Does anyone else have any other questions?
questions?
questions? [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> I will make a motion that the full
>> I will make a motion that the full
>> I will make a motion that the full commission approve 5% increase for the
commission approve 5% increase for the
commission approve 5% increase for the fiscal year 2028
fiscal year 2028
fiscal year 2028 uh dues.
uh dues.
uh dues. >> Second.
>> Second.
>> Second. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> M second. last chance for any
>> M second. last chance for any
>> M second. last chance for any discussion.
discussion.
discussion. >> All right. Although, well, let's roll
>> All right. Although, well, let's roll
>> All right. Although, well, let's roll call, right? Uh Chris,
call, right? Uh Chris,
call, right? Uh Chris, >> um I second the person who spoke about
>> um I second the person who spoke about
>> um I second the person who spoke about the um the amazing GIS capability and
the um the amazing GIS capability and
the um the amazing GIS capability and functionality. I used I do a lot of
functionality. I used I do a lot of
functionality. I used I do a lot of stuff across the state and um I am
stuff across the state and um I am
stuff across the state and um I am constantly frustrated. Um the GIS team
constantly frustrated. Um the GIS team
constantly frustrated. Um the GIS team at NRPC is awesome and 5% is the least
at NRPC is awesome and 5% is the least
at NRPC is awesome and 5% is the least we can do if nothing else to support
we can do if nothing else to support
we can do if nothing else to support that. So my answer is yes to 5%.
that. So my answer is yes to 5%.
that. So my answer is yes to 5%. >> Thank you. Uh Jason,
>> Thank you. Uh Jason,
>> Thank you. Uh Jason, >> no.
>> no.
>> no. >> Thank
yes.
yes. >> Yo, yes.
>> Yo, yes.
>> Yo, yes. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> No. Yes.
>> No. Yes.
>> No. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Action item. Election of members to the
>> Action item. Election of members to the executive committee.
executive committee.
executive committee. >> We were going to defer. We were going to
>> We were going to defer. We were going to
>> We were going to defer. We were going to defer that.
defer that.
defer that. >> Yes, that's the one we're looking at.
>> Yes, that's the one we're looking at.
>> Yes, that's the one we're looking at. Who is
Who is
Who is >> to defer?
>> to defer?
>> to defer? I'll make a motion to defer the election
I'll make a motion to defer the election
I'll make a motion to defer the election of members to the executive committee
of members to the executive committee
of members to the executive committee till the September meeting of the full
till the September meeting of the full
till the September meeting of the full commission
>> discussion.
>> discussion. >> Why?
>> Why?
>> Why? >> The reason we're doing that is because
>> The reason we're doing that is because
>> The reason we're doing that is because we need to go through the data again in
we need to go through the data again in
we need to go through the data again in terms of when people started on started
terms of when people started on started
terms of when people started on started off and the spreadsheet looks a little
off and the spreadsheet looks a little
off and the spreadsheet looks a little wonky right now in the data.
wonky right now in the data.
wonky right now in the data. >> That's all.
>> That's all.
>> That's all. >> We'll get it straight down.
>> We'll get it straight down.
>> We'll get it straight down. But we're going to go ahead and elect
But we're going to go ahead and elect
But we're going to go ahead and elect the officer.
the officer.
the officer. >> All right. We got a roll. We got a roll
>> All right. We got a roll. We got a roll
>> All right. We got a roll. We got a roll up vote on this one though. All right.
up vote on this one though. All right.
up vote on this one though. All right. So, first and second discussion was why
So, first and second discussion was why
So, first and second discussion was why the spreadsheet looked a little off
the spreadsheet looked a little off
the spreadsheet looked a little off right on the dates.
right on the dates.
right on the dates. >> Who was the second on that?
>> Who was the second on that?
>> Who was the second on that? >> Uh I I had
>> Uh I I had
>> Uh I I had John.
John.
John. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Uh Chris, we're voting to
>> All right. Uh Chris, we're voting to
>> All right. Uh Chris, we're voting to defer the election of members to the
defer the election of members to the
defer the election of members to the executive.
executive.
executive. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Uh Jason.
Uh Jason.
Uh Jason. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. Yes,
Yes,
Yes, >> yes,
>> yes,
>> yes, >> yes. I Yes.
>> yes. I Yes.
>> yes. I Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> There you go.
>> There you go.
>> There you go. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> All right. Good feeling.
>> All right. Good feeling. >> Another action item. Election of 20 say
>> Another action item. Election of 20 say
>> Another action item. Election of 20 say 2025 executive committee officers or 26
2025 executive committee officers or 26
2025 executive committee officers or 26 got the wrong.
got the wrong.
got the wrong. >> Oh, sorry. I should say
>> Oh, sorry. I should say
>> Oh, sorry. I should say >> should say 27
>> should say 27
>> should say 27 say So nervous at our last meeting as
say So nervous at our last meeting as
say So nervous at our last meeting as amended. So that should be
amended. So that should be
amended. So that should be >> 27.
>> 27.
>> 27. >> The uh executive committee currently we
>> The uh executive committee currently we
>> The uh executive committee currently we have um Kim Queen is the chair, Janet is
have um Kim Queen is the chair, Janet is
have um Kim Queen is the chair, Janet is the treasurer and Jason Hennessy is the
the treasurer and Jason Hennessy is the
the treasurer and Jason Hennessy is the vice chair. They have all agreed to
vice chair. They have all agreed to
vice chair. They have all agreed to continue their positions if the
continue their positions if the
continue their positions if the commission so wishes.
discussion.
discussion. >> That's the recommendation from the
>> That's the recommendation from the
>> That's the recommendation from the nominating.
nominating.
nominating. >> Correct.
>> Tim, if you want to come back and join
>> Tim, if you want to come back and join us, I'll be very happy. [laughter]
us, I'll be very happy. [laughter]
us, I'll be very happy. [laughter] >> You're retired now. You got plenty of
>> You're retired now. You got plenty of
>> You're retired now. You got plenty of time.
time.
time. >> Yeah. I should have brought my hat in
>> Yeah. I should have brought my hat in
>> Yeah. I should have brought my hat in that says I'm free.
that says I'm free.
that says I'm free. And it says I'm free to do what my wife
And it says I'm free to do what my wife
And it says I'm free to do what my wife tells me to do.
>> And those the three towns that repres I
>> And those the three towns that repres I know Janet Milford
know Janet Milford
know Janet Milford >> Milford Amhurst and Lichfield.
[snorts]
[snorts] Cool.
Cool.
Cool. >> So I'll move the recommendation of the
>> So I'll move the recommendation of the
>> So I'll move the recommendation of the nominating.
nominating.
nominating. Second,
>> Did you want to elaborate on that? I
>> Did you want to elaborate on that? I mean, I understand differentiz towns,
mean, I understand differentiz towns,
mean, I understand differentiz towns, right? Is that what you're were asking?
right? Is that what you're were asking?
right? Is that what you're were asking? >> Um,
>> Um,
>> Um, I understand that.
I understand that.
I understand that. >> Good thing.
>> All right. It's all quiet. All right. No
>> All right. It's all quiet. All right. No hands up there. Okay. All right. Uh
hands up there. Okay. All right. Uh
hands up there. Okay. All right. Uh Chris,
Chris,
Chris, >> yes.
>> yes.
>> yes. >> Jason,
>> Jason,
>> Jason, >> yes.
>> yes.
>> yes. >> Yes. And thank you.
>> Yes. And thank you.
>> Yes. And thank you. >> Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. I
>> Yes. I
>> Yes. I >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Yes. Yes. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. [laughter]
>> Yes.
>> Yes. All right.
All right. Next item, the bylaws,
All right. Next item, the bylaws, potential amendments.
So, was it the intent to have potential
So, was it the intent to have potential amendments in this copy of the bylaws?
amendments in this copy of the bylaws?
amendments in this copy of the bylaws? I'm not sure necessarily in this copy,
I'm not sure necessarily in this copy,
I'm not sure necessarily in this copy, but I do believe that Jason Hennessy has
but I do believe that Jason Hennessy has
but I do believe that Jason Hennessy has a recommended change.
a recommended change.
a recommended change. >> Yeah, that requires a read ahead. So, we
>> Yeah, that requires a read ahead. So, we
>> Yeah, that requires a read ahead. So, we can hear it, but we can't vote on it
can hear it, but we can't vote on it
can hear it, but we can't vote on it tonight.
tonight.
tonight. >> Right.
>> Right.
>> Right. >> Well, is that I'm sorry. The air
>> Well, is that I'm sorry. The air
>> Well, is that I'm sorry. The air conditioner. What did you say?
conditioner. What did you say?
conditioner. What did you say? >> Yeah. No, it's not on as in
>> Yeah. No, it's not on as in
>> Yeah. No, it's not on as in >> True.
>> True.
>> True. >> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Yeah. I would very much like though to
>> Yeah. I would very much like though to
>> Yeah. I would very much like though to get whatever
get whatever
get whatever the proposing
the proposing
the proposing something red line document or whatever
something red line document or whatever
something red line document or whatever in advance.
>> Jason, I know you'd suggested amendment
>> Jason, I know you'd suggested amendment if you want to speak to it.
if you want to speak to it.
if you want to speak to it. >> Yeah. So, it um so thanks. By the way, I
>> Yeah. So, it um so thanks. By the way, I
>> Yeah. So, it um so thanks. By the way, I apologize for leaving. I had a cough
apologize for leaving. I had a cough
apologize for leaving. I had a cough that wouldn't uh go away. So, I figured
that wouldn't uh go away. So, I figured
that wouldn't uh go away. So, I figured it was more courteous to everybody to
it was more courteous to everybody to
it was more courteous to everybody to head out. Um
head out. Um
head out. Um yeah. So, I I'd like to get a sense of
yeah. So, I I'd like to get a sense of
yeah. So, I I'd like to get a sense of the commission. I in the bylaws, we have
the commission. I in the bylaws, we have
the commission. I in the bylaws, we have this nominating committee, but in the
this nominating committee, but in the
this nominating committee, but in the several years I've been serving there
several years I've been serving there
several years I've been serving there there's never actually been a nominating
there's never actually been a nominating
there's never actually been a nominating committee. And so my thought was well
committee. And so my thought was well
committee. And so my thought was well why don't we make the bylaws match
why don't we make the bylaws match
why don't we make the bylaws match actual practice
actual practice
actual practice and uh just get rid of the nominating
and uh just get rid of the nominating
and uh just get rid of the nominating committee make it the executive
committee make it the executive
committee make it the executive committee nominates the uh the executive
committee nominates the uh the executive
committee nominates the uh the executive committee members as well as the
committee members as well as the
committee members as well as the officers and then also to make sure that
officers and then also to make sure that
officers and then also to make sure that we don't end up and every couple years
we don't end up and every couple years
we don't end up and every couple years we end up in the situation where we
we end up in the situation where we
we end up in the situation where we don't actually have enough executive
don't actually have enough executive
don't actually have enough executive committee members at the MO meeting and
committee members at the MO meeting and
committee members at the MO meeting and so then we end up having to nominate
so then we end up having to nominate
so then we end up having to nominate some from the floor and so My thought
some from the floor and so My thought
some from the floor and so My thought was, well, why don't we try to stick
was, well, why don't we try to stick
was, well, why don't we try to stick with the bylaws? Well, update the bylaws
with the bylaws? Well, update the bylaws
with the bylaws? Well, update the bylaws to reflect practice and so allow
to reflect practice and so allow
to reflect practice and so allow nominations from the floor. So, I just
nominations from the floor. So, I just
nominations from the floor. So, I just would like to get some feedback from
would like to get some feedback from
would like to get some feedback from folks. Um, what you think about that?
>> That makes perfect sense to me.
>> That makes perfect sense to me. I actually think it's helpful to have a
I actually think it's helpful to have a
I actually think it's helpful to have a nominating committee because other than
nominating committee because other than
nominating committee because other than just you know talking about the officers
just you know talking about the officers
just you know talking about the officers and that of opening a nominating
and that of opening a nominating
and that of opening a nominating committee is no good relative to
committee is no good relative to
committee is no good relative to reaching out and having an official
reaching out and having an official
reaching out and having an official group from the executive committee
group from the executive committee
group from the executive committee reaching out to the rest of the
reaching out to the rest of the
reaching out to the rest of the membership in order to solicit new
membership in order to solicit new
membership in order to solicit new members for the executive committee. So
members for the executive committee. So
members for the executive committee. So I think there's a dual functionality
I think there's a dual functionality
I think there's a dual functionality there.
there.
there. Are they performing a function of doing
Are they performing a function of doing
Are they performing a function of doing a lot of background checks?
a lot of background checks?
a lot of background checks? >> They're not doing background checks,
>> They're not doing background checks,
>> They're not doing background checks, >> things like that.
>> things like that.
>> things like that. >> No,
>> No,
>> No, >> no.
I mean, they're not collecting
I mean, they're not collecting additional information.
additional information.
additional information. >> No,
>> No,
>> No, [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> no, but they're giving a personal touch
>> no, but they're giving a personal touch
>> no, but they're giving a personal touch as opposed to an email coming out from
as opposed to an email coming out from
as opposed to an email coming out from Jay that says, "Hey, the executive
Jay that says, "Hey, the executive
Jay that says, "Hey, the executive committee needs some members. Anyone
committee needs some members. Anyone
committee needs some members. Anyone interested?"
interested?"
interested?" And that's really usually the purpose of
And that's really usually the purpose of
And that's really usually the purpose of a nominating committee.
a nominating committee.
a nominating committee. [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> Yeah, I I don't disagree. It's just that
>> Yeah, I I don't disagree. It's just that
>> Yeah, I I don't disagree. It's just that in the years I've been serving, we've
in the years I've been serving, we've
in the years I've been serving, we've never actually had one.
never actually had one.
never actually had one. >> Well, if you if you consider that
>> Well, if you if you consider that
>> Well, if you if you consider that executive committee is the nominating
executive committee is the nominating
executive committee is the nominating committee, then we do have one because
committee, then we do have one because
committee, then we do have one because we just did that this evening.
we just did that this evening.
we just did that this evening. >> So, that was the change I was gonna I
>> So, that was the change I was gonna I
>> So, that was the change I was gonna I was thinking to make was just to change
was thinking to make was just to change
was thinking to make was just to change nominating committee to executive
nominating committee to executive
nominating committee to executive committee.
committee.
committee. >> Uhhuh. So
>> Uhhuh. So
>> Uhhuh. So >> if I may,
>> so there so if you're interested in what
>> so there so if you're interested in what we're talking about, there is there is
we're talking about, there is there is
we're talking about, there is there is an article that speaks to the nominating
an article that speaks to the nominating
an article that speaks to the nominating committee in the bylaws. And I'll say as
committee in the bylaws. And I'll say as
committee in the bylaws. And I'll say as the chair of the executive committee in
the chair of the executive committee in
the chair of the executive committee in the past, I would say it was my um
the past, I would say it was my um
the past, I would say it was my um mistake not to utilize a nominating
mistake not to utilize a nominating
mistake not to utilize a nominating committee to bring in executive
committee to bring in executive
committee to bring in executive committee members because Janet hit the
committee members because Janet hit the
committee members because Janet hit the nail on the head. the nominating
nail on the head. the nominating
nail on the head. the nominating committee. The idea of that is to in is
committee. The idea of that is to in is
committee. The idea of that is to in is to have members outside of the executive
to have members outside of the executive
to have members outside of the executive committee recommend or solicit or
committee recommend or solicit or
committee recommend or solicit or identify people that could serve on the
identify people that could serve on the
identify people that could serve on the executive committee and bring in that
executive committee and bring in that
executive committee and bring in that outside voice as well as support all the
outside voice as well as support all the
outside voice as well as support all the work that the exe executive committee
work that the exe executive committee
work that the exe executive committee does by offloading that need to other
does by offloading that need to other
does by offloading that need to other members of of the commission other
members of of the commission other
members of of the commission other commissioners within the NRPC. So, I'll
commissioners within the NRPC. So, I'll
commissioners within the NRPC. So, I'll apologize now for not having really
apologize now for not having really
apologize now for not having really followed through in the past. And I, as
followed through in the past. And I, as
followed through in the past. And I, as Jason has seen, um, what I did as chair,
Jason has seen, um, what I did as chair,
Jason has seen, um, what I did as chair, since the chair nominates the nominating
since the chair nominates the nominating
since the chair nominates the nominating committee or or it sets it up, is I just
committee or or it sets it up, is I just
committee or or it sets it up, is I just automatically said everyone on the
automatically said everyone on the
automatically said everyone on the executive committee, you're now the
executive committee, you're now the
executive committee, you're now the nominating committee. And I defaulted to
nominating committee. And I defaulted to
nominating committee. And I defaulted to that and I think that was a bad
that and I think that was a bad
that and I think that was a bad practice.
practice.
practice. >> And it could be either. It could be a
>> And it could be either. It could be a
>> And it could be either. It could be a mix of either.
mix of either.
mix of either. >> Right.
>> Right.
>> Right. >> The way this is written, it's very open.
>> The way this is written, it's very open.
>> The way this is written, it's very open. >> Yeah. And I I think it's I I like your
>> Yeah. And I I think it's I I like your
>> Yeah. And I I think it's I I like your idea of expanding having both groups.
idea of expanding having both groups.
idea of expanding having both groups. >> Yeah. But but I I will say though, I
>> Yeah. But but I I will say though, I
>> Yeah. But but I I will say though, I think we want to change the way we have
think we want to change the way we have
think we want to change the way we have the bylaws because right now it says the
the bylaws because right now it says the
the bylaws because right now it says the chair creates the nominating committee
chair creates the nominating committee
chair creates the nominating committee and and that's it. I think we should
and and that's it. I think we should
and and that's it. I think we should make the nominated committee a formal
make the nominated committee a formal
make the nominated committee a formal committee of of the NRBC like TTAC is a
committee of of the NRBC like TTAC is a
committee of of the NRBC like TTAC is a formal committee in our bylaws and have
formal committee in our bylaws and have
formal committee in our bylaws and have that be a committee that we put together
that be a committee that we put together
that be a committee that we put together and whether it be three people or five
and whether it be three people or five
and whether it be three people or five people or five commissioners which could
people or five commissioners which could
people or five commissioners which could be executive committee members or not I
be executive committee members or not I
be executive committee members or not I think we should update the bylaws to
think we should update the bylaws to
think we should update the bylaws to make that a standing committee that's
make that a standing committee that's
make that a standing committee that's always in place versus making the
always in place versus making the
always in place versus making the executive committee and defaulting to
executive committee and defaulting to
executive committee and defaulting to that team to essentially nominate
that team to essentially nominate
that team to essentially nominate themselves.
themselves.
themselves. So maybe executive committee members
So maybe executive committee members
So maybe executive committee members should not be part of the nomine
if if it's a committee that we vote on
if if it's a committee that we vote on to to put together. Right? So if people
to to put together. Right? So if people
to to put together. Right? So if people um self-recommend them to the nominating
um self-recommend them to the nominating
um self-recommend them to the nominating committee and then we as a commission
committee and then we as a commission
committee and then we as a commission approve that or not, I think it's up to
approve that or not, I think it's up to
approve that or not, I think it's up to whatever whoever is present at that
whatever whoever is present at that
whatever whoever is present at that meeting to to say yes or no. So it could
meeting to to say yes or no. So it could
meeting to to say yes or no. So it could be executive committee members or or
be executive committee members or or
be executive committee members or or not. Ideally it's not.
not. Ideally it's not.
not. Ideally it's not. >> Yeah. Ideally it's not. It's it's more
>> Yeah. Ideally it's not. It's it's more
>> Yeah. Ideally it's not. It's it's more it's different work. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
it's different work. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
it's different work. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And and it's I wouldn't call it a
And and it's I wouldn't call it a
And and it's I wouldn't call it a conflict of interest, but it kind of
conflict of interest, but it kind of
conflict of interest, but it kind of edges in that direction, right?
edges in that direction, right?
edges in that direction, right? >> To a point to appoint to nominate
>> To a point to appoint to nominate
>> To a point to appoint to nominate ourselves.
ourselves.
ourselves. >> Sounds like
>> Sounds like
>> Sounds like >> I think it's a mixed bag.
>> I think it's a mixed bag.
>> I think it's a mixed bag. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Um I think every other organization I
>> Um I think every other organization I
>> Um I think every other organization I work for, they may not have an executive
work for, they may not have an executive
work for, they may not have an executive committee.
committee.
committee. >> They have a leadership team.
>> They have a leadership team.
>> They have a leadership team. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> And often a member of the leadership
>> And often a member of the leadership
>> And often a member of the leadership team is part of the nominating
team is part of the nominating
team is part of the nominating committee, at least one of them.
committee, at least one of them.
committee, at least one of them. um just by default of who in the smaller
um just by default of who in the smaller
um just by default of who in the smaller group and this is not a huge group by
group and this is not a huge group by
group and this is not a huge group by any means either you know is is
any means either you know is is
any means either you know is is available and willing students
available and willing students
available and willing students >> a nonprofit operate that way
>> a nonprofit operate that way
>> a nonprofit operate that way >> right it's still a it would still be a
>> right it's still a it would still be a
>> right it's still a it would still be a proposal that
proposal that
proposal that >> says it's appointed by the chair maybe
>> says it's appointed by the chair maybe
>> says it's appointed by the chair maybe it'll be appointed by the committee
it'll be appointed by the committee
it'll be appointed by the committee [clears throat] not just the chair I
[clears throat] not just the chair I
[clears throat] not just the chair I don't know right now it's appointed by
don't know right now it's appointed by
don't know right now it's appointed by the chair so it's got to be
the chair so it's got to be
the chair so it's got to be >> no he's no he's creating a standing
>> no he's no he's creating a standing
>> no he's no he's creating a standing committee
committee
committee >> right that that
>> right that that
>> right that that way he has change that that stipulation.
way he has change that that stipulation.
way he has change that that stipulation. >> No, that's what I'm saying. We have to
>> No, that's what I'm saying. We have to
>> No, that's what I'm saying. We have to change that because right now it says
change that because right now it says
change that because right now it says >> would entirely be changed. It would be a
>> would entirely be changed. It would be a
>> would entirely be changed. It would be a standing committee like TAC.
standing committee like TAC.
standing committee like TAC. >> So, so Jason,
>> So, so Jason,
>> So, so Jason, >> we just fought with people being on the
>> we just fought with people being on the
>> we just fought with people being on the executive committee in the past. We
executive committee in the past. We
executive committee in the past. We never had enough members. I think that's
never had enough members. I think that's
never had enough members. I think that's why we
why we
why we >> Well, I I didn't do due diligence. I
>> Well, I I didn't do due diligence. I
>> Well, I I didn't do due diligence. I just I just self-appointed the full
just I just self-appointed the full
just I just self-appointed the full executives meeting. So, that was my
executives meeting. So, that was my
executives meeting. So, that was my fault. I shouldn't have. That was a bad
fault. I shouldn't have. That was a bad
fault. I shouldn't have. That was a bad practice on my part. So I but if I
practice on my part. So I but if I
practice on my part. So I but if I remember when I was new here because I
remember when I was new here because I
remember when I was new here because I was trying to figure it out for years
was trying to figure it out for years
was trying to figure it out for years what I actually did here. [laughter]
what I actually did here. [laughter]
what I actually did here. [laughter] Who was the gentleman from Pelum who was
Who was the gentleman from Pelum who was
Who was the gentleman from Pelum who was in real estate?
in real estate?
in real estate? >> Dave Hennessy.
>> Dave Hennessy.
>> Dave Hennessy. >> He would be over here and just say hey
>> He would be over here and just say hey
>> He would be over here and just say hey does anybody want to join? You know it
does anybody want to join? You know it
does anybody want to join? You know it would just be thrown out there on the
would just be thrown out there on the
would just be thrown out there on the floor. Right. It wouldn't be a
floor. Right. It wouldn't be a
floor. Right. It wouldn't be a nominating.
nominating.
nominating. >> Oh he was part of a nominating
>> Oh he was part of a nominating
>> Oh he was part of a nominating committee.
committee.
committee. >> Oh was that actually a nominee?
>> Oh was that actually a nominee?
>> Oh was that actually a nominee? And we had a we used to it was all
And we had a we used to it was all
And we had a we used to it was all executive committee members but we had a
executive committee members but we had a
executive committee members but we had a subsection I think there were usually
subsection I think there were usually
subsection I think there were usually three of us
three of us
three of us >> changing something got appointed as a
>> changing something got appointed as a
>> changing something got appointed as a nominated committee.
nominated committee.
nominated committee. >> I thought it would just went out to the
>> I thought it would just went out to the
>> I thought it would just went out to the floor. Hey anybody want
floor. Hey anybody want
floor. Hey anybody want >> Well that's because no one ever wanted
>> Well that's because no one ever wanted
>> Well that's because no one ever wanted to be on the executive committee. So
to be on the executive committee. So
to be on the executive committee. So >> back
>> back
>> back to any defense you know when I first
to any defense you know when I first
to any defense you know when I first started doing this we were in the middle
started doing this we were in the middle
started doing this we were in the middle of COVID and we weren't even meeting in
of COVID and we weren't even meeting in
of COVID and we weren't even meeting in person. So, it was just easier to name
person. So, it was just easier to name
person. So, it was just easier to name the executive committee than other,
the executive committee than other,
the executive committee than other, >> but if Jason Hennessy is open to the
>> but if Jason Hennessy is open to the
>> but if Jason Hennessy is open to the idea, he and I can can confer over the
idea, he and I can can confer over the
idea, he and I can can confer over the next month or two and make a proposal
next month or two and make a proposal
next month or two and make a proposal for the next meeting.
for the next meeting.
for the next meeting. >> That sounds good.
>> That sounds good.
>> That sounds good. >> Great.
>> Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
>> Thanks for the feedback, everyone. >> Close that out.
>> Close that out.
>> Close that out. to have members of the some members of
to have members of the some members of
to have members of the some members of the executive committee be on the
the executive committee be on the
the executive committee be on the nominating committee because the rest of
nominating committee because the rest of
nominating committee because the rest of you don't know what happens on the
you don't know what happens on the
you don't know what happens on the executive committee and and and you
executive committee and and and you
executive committee and and and you could pick the guy who sits here and
could pick the guy who sits here and
could pick the guy who sits here and doesn't say a word.
>> I like it here because people listen to
>> I like it here because people listen to me.
me.
me. >> I like at home. [laughter]
>> I like at home. [laughter]
>> I like at home. [laughter] >> Having an argument with the Heritage
>> Having an argument with the Heritage
>> Having an argument with the Heritage Commission because I restore antique
Commission because I restore antique
Commission because I restore antique buildings and they're dissing my uh my
buildings and they're dissing my uh my
buildings and they're dissing my uh my input uh on the Heritage Commission
input uh on the Heritage Commission
input uh on the Heritage Commission restoring our town halls.
restoring our town halls.
restoring our town halls. >> I love it here. You're all very
>> I love it here. You're all very
>> I love it here. You're all very supportive.
supportive.
supportive. >> So, Kim,
>> So, Kim,
>> So, Kim, >> yes. Um, on a slightly different note, I
>> yes. Um, on a slightly different note, I
>> yes. Um, on a slightly different note, I I think we do need a small change to the
I think we do need a small change to the
I think we do need a small change to the bylaws because it speaks to our meeting
bylaws because it speaks to our meeting
bylaws because it speaks to our meeting frequency is quarterly and we've been
frequency is quarterly and we've been
frequency is quarterly and we've been we've gone to five meetings a year now.
we've gone to five meetings a year now.
we've gone to five meetings a year now. >> So, I think we have a minor
>> So, I think we have a minor
>> So, I think we have a minor administrative update there.
administrative update there.
administrative update there. >> And it also mentioned that the full
>> And it also mentioned that the full
>> And it also mentioned that the full permission was like eight times or
permission was like eight times or
permission was like eight times or something a year. Just want to make sure
something a year. Just want to make sure
something a year. Just want to make sure we still are
we still are
we still are >> No, I thought it was like one of them
>> No, I thought it was like one of them
>> No, I thought it was like one of them was also eight months. I just wanted to
was also eight months. I just wanted to
was also eight months. I just wanted to make make sure
make make sure
make make sure >> the executive commission we had at least
>> the executive commission we had at least
>> the executive commission we had at least eight. Okay. So, we should be okay with
eight. Okay. So, we should be okay with
eight. Okay. So, we should be okay with that.
that.
that. >> Yeah. In practice, it's more like 11th.
>> Yeah. In practice, it's more like 11th.
>> Yeah. In practice, it's more like 11th. >> It's 11th. Yeah.
>> It's 11th. Yeah.
>> It's 11th. Yeah. >> Okay. I thought it was the uh just so
>> Okay. I thought it was the uh just so
>> Okay. I thought it was the uh just so everyone just for transparency, I had
everyone just for transparency, I had
everyone just for transparency, I had asked Janet just so she knows on um
asked Janet just so she knows on um
asked Janet just so she knows on um articles 8A
articles 8A
articles 8A about $1,000 threshold on the checks.
about $1,000 threshold on the checks.
about $1,000 threshold on the checks. You know, if it needs to know the
You know, if it needs to know the
You know, if it needs to know the signature, but you're happy with that. I
signature, but you're happy with that. I
signature, but you're happy with that. I don't know if we had some checks start
don't know if we had some checks start
don't know if we had some checks start at 1,200 or 1500 or with inflation to be
at 1,200 or 1500 or with inflation to be
at 1,200 or 1500 or with inflation to be bigger with than a thousand but you're
bigger with than a thousand but you're
bigger with than a thousand but you're okay with
okay with
okay with >> I think and I think based on the audits
>> I think and I think based on the audits
>> I think and I think based on the audits that we've had and input from the
that we've had and input from the
that we've had and input from the auditors I think a thousand is very
auditors I think a thousand is very
auditors I think a thousand is very appropriate and in terms of the meeting
appropriate and in terms of the meeting
appropriate and in terms of the meeting stuff I mean this could be as simple as
stuff I mean this could be as simple as
stuff I mean this could be as simple as adding at least
adding at least
adding at least >> the meeting frequency you know may not
>> the meeting frequency you know may not
>> the meeting frequency you know may not be a big heavy lift
be a big heavy lift
be a big heavy lift >> it says yeah executive says at least
>> it says yeah executive says at least
>> it says yeah executive says at least >> I just wanted to put the thousand there
>> I just wanted to put the thousand there
>> I just wanted to put the thousand there as a being transparent as I asked.
>> So maybe maybe it's the homework
>> So maybe maybe it's the homework assignment, but those people who are
assignment, but those people who are
assignment, but those people who are really interested, Madame Chair,
really interested, Madame Chair,
really interested, Madame Chair, >> maybe maybe they take bylaws home with
>> maybe maybe they take bylaws home with
>> maybe maybe they take bylaws home with them and put them in a bill.
them and put them in a bill.
them and put them in a bill. >> I know they can do that.
>> I know they can do that.
>> I know they can do that. >> See if they want to make any changes and
>> See if they want to make any changes and
>> See if they want to make any changes and throw it back at us.
throw it back at us.
throw it back at us. >> I actually was interested in one other
>> I actually was interested in one other
>> I actually was interested in one other one, but maybe there's a reason it's
one, but maybe there's a reason it's
one, but maybe there's a reason it's there. Let me find it. I look at the
there. Let me find it. I look at the
there. Let me find it. I look at the word fall. I think it was on the last
word fall. I think it was on the last
word fall. I think it was on the last page.
page.
page. Removal
Removal
Removal last page up at the top is being
last page up at the top is being
last page up at the top is being removal.
Remove the executive director there by
Remove the executive director there by majority vote of all.
majority vote of all.
majority vote of all. So a majority vote of all. I should say
So a majority vote of all. I should say
So a majority vote of all. I should say all. I wasn't sure. Majority vote of
all. I wasn't sure. Majority vote of
all. I wasn't sure. Majority vote of all. mean we all have to be present in
all. mean we all have to be present in
all. mean we all have to be present in the room to make the vote
the room to make the vote
the room to make the vote >> or does it mean all have to say
>> or does it mean all have to say
>> or does it mean all have to say goodbye to I don't know that's what I
goodbye to I don't know that's what I
goodbye to I don't know that's what I mean we might have to clarify that
mean we might have to clarify that
mean we might have to clarify that >> I'm not sure we're all to be there
>> I'm not sure we're all to be there
>> I'm not sure we're all to be there >> a majority vote
>> a majority vote
>> a majority vote >> maybe
>> maybe
>> maybe it be all the executive committee or is
it be all the executive committee or is
it be all the executive committee or is it just be everybody has to be there and
it just be everybody has to be there and
it just be everybody has to be there and then you vote [clears throat]
then you vote [clears throat]
then you vote [clears throat] >> take that on too
>> take that on too
>> take that on too >> see what happened
>> see what happened
>> see what happened >> it means that bylaws [laughter]
>> it means that bylaws [laughter]
>> it means that bylaws [laughter] however many people are present
however many people are present
however many people are present A majority of all commissioners
A majority of all commissioners
A majority of all commissioners all the commissioners
all the commissioners
all the commissioners >> all present commission
>> all present commission
>> all present commission >> not all present
>> not all present
>> not all present >> yeah with the core we have every single
>> yeah with the core we have every single
>> yeah with the core we have every single commissioner that's appointed has to be
commissioner that's appointed has to be
commissioner that's appointed has to be part of the decision to get rid of
part of the decision to get rid of
part of the decision to get rid of executive
executive
executive >> that's the majority of them
>> that's the majority of them
>> that's the majority of them >> they don't yes
100%
100% >> attendance
I thought we
I thought we say 14.
>> I had one thing on meetings that I'll
>> I had one thing on meetings that I'll just throw out for people to think about
just throw out for people to think about
just throw out for people to think about and you can go back and write it up or
and you can go back and write it up or
and you can go back and write it up or not.
not.
not. >> I would love a meeting that was devoted
>> I would love a meeting that was devoted
>> I would love a meeting that was devoted to just sharing among towns. We would
to just sharing among towns. We would
to just sharing among towns. We would have to probably give it a little bit of
have to probably give it a little bit of
have to probably give it a little bit of structure. So it didn't end up some kind
structure. So it didn't end up some kind
structure. So it didn't end up some kind of weird free-for-all. We do what, eight
of weird free-for-all. We do what, eight
of weird free-for-all. We do what, eight minutes the end of a meeting where we go
minutes the end of a meeting where we go
minutes the end of a meeting where we go around the table. It's very not
around the table. It's very not
around the table. It's very not satisfying to me.
satisfying to me.
satisfying to me. >> Um I actually think that's a great idea,
>> Um I actually think that's a great idea,
>> Um I actually think that's a great idea, but I don't think it has anything to do
but I don't think it has anything to do
but I don't think it has anything to do with the bylaws.
with the bylaws.
with the bylaws. >> Well,
>> Well,
>> Well, >> I think in practice
>> I think in practice
>> I think in practice >> we could just
>> we could just
>> we could just >> we could take a meeting and instead of
>> we could take a meeting and instead of
>> we could take a meeting and instead of having a guest speaker
having a guest speaker
having a guest speaker >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> and make that the main topic of the
>> and make that the main topic of the
>> and make that the main topic of the meeting,
meeting,
meeting, >> that's one way to go. that middle ground
>> that's one way to go. that middle ground
>> that's one way to go. that middle ground >> where we actually say there's one
>> where we actually say there's one
>> where we actually say there's one meeting devoted each year to that kind
meeting devoted each year to that kind
meeting devoted each year to that kind of sharing.
of sharing.
of sharing. >> So it's this goes back to the mission
>> So it's this goes back to the mission
>> So it's this goes back to the mission and vision work we did at Riviera a
and vision work we did at Riviera a
and vision work we did at Riviera a number of years ago when we all talked
number of years ago when we all talked
number of years ago when we all talked about having a whiteboard or some way to
about having a whiteboard or some way to
about having a whiteboard or some way to communicate between all of our
communicate between all of our
communicate between all of our communities of you know what's what's
communities of you know what's what's
communities of you know what's what's the hot topic in your town because over
the hot topic in your town because over
the hot topic in your town because over here this town may have the same hot
here this town may have the same hot
here this town may have the same hot topic too and let's all talk together.
topic too and let's all talk together.
topic too and let's all talk together. Well, we could do a list serve thing for
Well, we could do a list serve thing for
Well, we could do a list serve thing for that.
that.
that. >> I know.
>> I know.
>> I know. >> And we're doing that with um some of the
>> And we're doing that with um some of the
>> And we're doing that with um some of the conservation commissions with our um
conservation commissions with our um
conservation commissions with our um NHACC has called ex it's called the
NHACC has called ex it's called the
NHACC has called ex it's called the exchange. Um but it's basically list
exchange. Um but it's basically list
exchange. Um but it's basically list serve and towns are all jumping in there
serve and towns are all jumping in there
serve and towns are all jumping in there and helping each other out and giving
and helping each other out and giving
and helping each other out and giving them references and back and forth and
them references and back and forth and
them references and back and forth and it's incredibly valuable and it's free.
it's incredibly valuable and it's free.
it's incredibly valuable and it's free. >> I don't know. Yes.
>> I don't know. Yes.
>> I don't know. Yes. >> Would there be 91A implications to that?
>> Would there be 91A implications to that?
>> Would there be 91A implications to that? >> Well, commissioners are all um all the
>> Well, commissioners are all um all the
>> Well, commissioners are all um all the conservation commissioners are appointed
conservation commissioners are appointed
conservation commissioners are appointed and they can participate in list serve.
and they can participate in list serve.
and they can participate in list serve. They're not making decisions on part of
They're not making decisions on part of
They're not making decisions on part of their towns. They're taking information
their towns. They're taking information
their towns. They're taking information back.
back.
back. >> Is plan link covered by 91A?
I am always uncomfortable if a majority
I am always uncomfortable if a majority of people on a board are communicating
of people on a board are communicating
of people on a board are communicating on anything that might be within there.
on anything that might be within there.
on anything that might be within there. So that it's a it's a good question.
So that it's a it's a good question.
So that it's a it's a good question. >> I mean there essentially many of those
>> I mean there essentially many of those
>> I mean there essentially many of those people there are public servants
people there are public servants
people there are public servants representing their communities. That's
representing their communities. That's
representing their communities. That's >> because unfortunately
>> because unfortunately
>> because unfortunately there there [clears throat] seems to be
there there [clears throat] seems to be
there there [clears throat] seems to be uh occurrences of
uh occurrences of
uh occurrences of uh people in various parts of the state
uh people in various parts of the state
uh people in various parts of the state uh basically weaponizing 91A at all.
uh basically weaponizing 91A at all.
uh basically weaponizing 91A at all. >> Right.
>> You've been to our town recently,
>> You've been to our town recently, haven't you?
haven't you?
haven't you? >> Don't have to go far. I mean I I I can
>> Don't have to go far. I mean I I I can
>> Don't have to go far. I mean I I I can definitely say I have seen instances
definitely say I have seen instances
definitely say I have seen instances where board members have made comments
where board members have made comments
where board members have made comments on social media and that has definitely
on social media and that has definitely
on social media and that has definitely come back.
come back.
come back. >> That's all an intention of served
>> That's all an intention of served
>> That's all an intention of served probably the same.
probably the same.
probably the same. >> Yeah, interesting thought.
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the idea
>> Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the idea of collaboration and idea sharing. I
of collaboration and idea sharing. I
of collaboration and idea sharing. I just think we need to
just think we need to
just think we need to be aware of the times in which we live.
be aware of the times in which we live.
be aware of the times in which we live. [clears throat] Mhm.
[clears throat] Mhm.
[clears throat] Mhm. >> Well, that would go back to actually
>> Well, that would go back to actually
>> Well, that would go back to actually doing it in the spring,
doing it in the spring,
doing it in the spring, >> right? Right.
>> right? Right.
>> right? Right. >> Devoting a meeting or adding a meeting
>> Devoting a meeting or adding a meeting
>> Devoting a meeting or adding a meeting that was just about the towns,
that was just about the towns,
that was just about the towns, >> right?
>> right?
>> right? You do that.
You do that.
You do that. >> We also didn't used to have tip
>> We also didn't used to have tip
>> We also didn't used to have tip amendments on every agenda.
amendments on every agenda.
amendments on every agenda. >> Not complaining.
>> Not complaining.
>> Not complaining. >> 91A Google says, is the US Army's um
>> 91A Google says, is the US Army's um
>> 91A Google says, is the US Army's um occupational um specialty.
Oh, an Abrams tank system maintain.
Oh, an Abrams tank system maintain. >> We could use one of those.
>> Other business
>> Other business by 8:15.
by 8:15.
by 8:15. >> All right. So, I'll try to be quick. So,
>> All right. So, I'll try to be quick. So,
>> All right. So, I'll try to be quick. So, regional plan update. I think everybody
regional plan update. I think everybody
regional plan update. I think everybody knows we're in the process of updating a
knows we're in the process of updating a
knows we're in the process of updating a regional plan. Uh, we had at one point
regional plan. Uh, we had at one point
regional plan. Uh, we had at one point targeted this meeting for approval. Uh,
targeted this meeting for approval. Uh,
targeted this meeting for approval. Uh, realized we realized that was not
realized we realized that was not
realized we realized that was not possible. So we are going to be
possible. So we are going to be
possible. So we are going to be targeting September. Um in reviewing the
targeting September. Um in reviewing the
targeting September. Um in reviewing the statute which I should have done a long
statute which I should have done a long
statute which I should have done a long time ago. Um our adoption process is
time ago. Um our adoption process is
time ago. Um our adoption process is rather ownorous. So um we have to of
rather ownorous. So um we have to of
rather ownorous. So um we have to of course hold a public hearing which we
course hold a public hearing which we
course hold a public hearing which we were aware uh but we are also subject to
were aware uh but we are also subject to
were aware uh but we are also subject to a 30-day public comment period. Um we
a 30-day public comment period. Um we
a 30-day public comment period. Um we also have to send a copy of the regional
also have to send a copy of the regional
also have to send a copy of the regional plan. I think we're going to go with the
plan. I think we're going to go with the
plan. I think we're going to go with the executive summary and a QR code to every
executive summary and a QR code to every
executive summary and a QR code to every select board, city council, board of
select board, city council, board of
select board, city council, board of alderman in the region, every planning
alderman in the region, every planning
alderman in the region, every planning board. Uh we have to send it uh also to
board. Uh we have to send it uh also to
board. Uh we have to send it uh also to the um office of planning and
the um office of planning and
the um office of planning and development for their review and comment
development for their review and comment
development for their review and comment and and every library. and we have to um
and and every library. and we have to um
and and every library. and we have to um address all of the written comments that
address all of the written comments that
address all of the written comments that we receive. So [clears throat]
we receive. So [clears throat]
we receive. So [clears throat] >> that defined digitally because you're
>> that defined digitally because you're
>> that defined digitally because you're statute
statute
statute >> 3647, right?
>> 3647, right?
>> 3647, right? >> And we have to post notice of our public
>> And we have to post notice of our public
>> And we have to post notice of our public hearing in every newspaper of general
hearing in every newspaper of general
hearing in every newspaper of general circulation.
circulation.
circulation. >> Oh my god,
>> Oh my god,
>> Oh my god, >> I know it's a lot. Um, so
>> I know it's a lot. Um, so
>> I know it's a lot. Um, so >> don't forget the mannock legend because
>> don't forget the mannock legend because
>> don't forget the mannock legend because that's a really good pay for
that's a really good pay for
that's a really good pay for >> definitely not. Yeah. What? Also,
>> definitely not. Yeah. What? Also,
>> definitely not. Yeah. What? Also, fortunately, it's cheaper than some, but
fortunately, it's cheaper than some, but
fortunately, it's cheaper than some, but we have to get them all. So, we'll do
we have to get them all. So, we'll do
we have to get them all. So, we'll do them all.
them all.
them all. >> Um, so we also want to have a re a
>> Um, so we also want to have a re a
>> Um, so we also want to have a re a realistic time to actually respond to
realistic time to actually respond to
realistic time to actually respond to comments and explain how we're going to
comments and explain how we're going to
comments and explain how we're going to address them. So, um, our target is to
address them. So, um, our target is to
address them. So, um, our target is to have our notices posted no later than
have our notices posted no later than
have our notices posted no later than July 31st
July 31st
July 31st with a return August 31st, close the po
with a return August 31st, close the po
with a return August 31st, close the po comment period. That would give us at
comment period. That would give us at
comment period. That would give us at least two weeks before the whole
least two weeks before the whole
least two weeks before the whole commission meeting in September to
commission meeting in September to
commission meeting in September to synthesize and address any comments that
synthesize and address any comments that
synthesize and address any comments that we receive before the public hearing.
we receive before the public hearing.
we receive before the public hearing. >> Is the draft version ready now?
>> Is the draft version ready now?
>> Is the draft version ready now? >> Not entirely. It will be though.
>> Not entirely. It will be though.
>> Not entirely. It will be though. >> Will you send it out to us?
>> Will you send it out to us?
>> Will you send it out to us? >> Yeah, we'll send you
>> Yeah, we'll send you
>> Yeah, we'll send you >> available.
>> available.
>> available. >> We'll send you links. So, right now we
>> We'll send you links. So, right now we
>> We'll send you links. So, right now we have six of the chapters are hosted
have six of the chapters are hosted
have six of the chapters are hosted right now on the engage site. So, that's
right now on the engage site. So, that's
right now on the engage site. So, that's where we're putting it. Two more will be
where we're putting it. Two more will be
where we're putting it. Two more will be shortly. And um then we've got the kind
shortly. And um then we've got the kind
shortly. And um then we've got the kind of executive summary. So, those will all
of executive summary. So, those will all
of executive summary. So, those will all be up there. We will probably try to
be up there. We will probably try to
be up there. We will probably try to send them to the office of planning and
send them to the office of planning and
send them to the office of planning and development sooner than the end of July,
development sooner than the end of July,
development sooner than the end of July, but that's that's our our latest
but that's that's our our latest
but that's that's our our latest as we expect they will
as we expect they will
as we expect they will um we want to give them enough time to
um we want to give them enough time to
um we want to give them enough time to do that.
do that.
do that. >> Have they commented in the past?
>> Have they commented in the past?
>> Have they commented in the past? >> Um I don't know because the last time we
>> Um I don't know because the last time we
>> Um I don't know because the last time we did it was 2014, you know, was um 2014
did it was 2014, you know, was um 2014
did it was 2014, you know, was um 2014 and was but I don't know if they
and was but I don't know if they
and was but I don't know if they commented but I can look.
commented but I can look.
commented but I can look. >> Matt, do you remember?
>> Matt, do you remember?
>> Matt, do you remember? >> Uh I don't.
>> Uh I don't.
>> Uh I don't. the slightly ironically they're supposed
the slightly ironically they're supposed
the slightly ironically they're supposed to um comment uh based on consistency
to um comment uh based on consistency
to um comment uh based on consistency with the state plan which hasn't been
with the state plan which hasn't been
with the state plan which hasn't been adopted or updated in decades.
adopted or updated in decades.
adopted or updated in decades. So I don't know when it was last done.
So I don't know when it was last done.
So I don't know when it was last done. So that'll be a challenge. But
So that'll be a challenge. But
So that'll be a challenge. But nevertheless, we'll brag to them for
>> you would think all you should probably
>> you would think all you should probably reach out to your peers, make sure
reach out to your peers, make sure
reach out to your peers, make sure they're all aware of this as well. And
they're all aware of this as well. And
they're all aware of this as well. And then and then all nine of you, you know,
then and then all nine of you, you know,
then and then all nine of you, you know, go to the office of planning and
go to the office of planning and
go to the office of planning and development say, "Guess what guys, look
development say, "Guess what guys, look
development say, "Guess what guys, look what's coming."
what's coming."
what's coming." >> Yeah. In fact, we have um there was
>> Yeah. In fact, we have um there was
>> Yeah. In fact, we have um there was actually a coordinated call. all of us
actually a coordinated call. all of us
actually a coordinated call. all of us are going to use the same process. Uh
are going to use the same process. Uh
are going to use the same process. Uh we've all agreed that sending out, you
we've all agreed that sending out, you
we've all agreed that sending out, you know, a few hundred pages to everyone is
know, a few hundred pages to everyone is
know, a few hundred pages to everyone is just too unwieldly. So it will be
just too unwieldly. So it will be
just too unwieldly. So it will be executive summary with QR code.
executive summary with QR code.
executive summary with QR code. >> You only have 500 bucks in your budget
>> You only have 500 bucks in your budget
>> You only have 500 bucks in your budget for postage.
for postage.
for postage. >> Yeah, I know. We don't want to do that.
>> Yeah, I know. We don't want to do that.
>> Yeah, I know. We don't want to do that. So
So
So >> links work.
>> links work.
>> links work. >> Yeah,
>> Yeah,
>> Yeah, >> right.
>> right.
>> right. >> You can do it digitally, right? You're
>> You can do it digitally, right? You're
>> You can do it digitally, right? You're not going to have to do hard copy. We
not going to have to do hard copy. We
not going to have to do hard copy. We could do it digitally for a library. I
could do it digitally for a library. I
could do it digitally for a library. I think having a physical copy at a
think having a physical copy at a
think having a physical copy at a library where at least at least of the
library where at least at least of the
library where at least at least of the executive summary I think in each
executive summary I think in each
executive summary I think in each library makes sense. Um I I the towns
library makes sense. Um I I the towns
library makes sense. Um I I the towns probably don't want
>> you know I hate to say this.
>> you know I hate to say this. >> Well, you know, but it's not that bad a
>> Well, you know, but it's not that bad a
>> Well, you know, but it's not that bad a thing to say because there's only 13
thing to say because there's only 13
thing to say because there's only 13 communities,
communities,
communities, >> right?
>> right?
>> right? >> But you might want to reach out to
>> But you might want to reach out to
>> But you might want to reach out to libraries instead of just sending them a
libraries instead of just sending them a
libraries instead of just sending them a copy. We have the in-house ability to do
copy. We have the in-house ability to do
copy. We have the in-house ability to do a little display, a little poster.
a little display, a little poster.
a little display, a little poster. >> We do,
>> We do,
>> We do, >> you know, to actually maybe kind of try
>> you know, to actually maybe kind of try
>> you know, to actually maybe kind of try to educate people that walk into the
to educate people that walk into the
to educate people that walk into the library that, hey, there is NRPC and we
library that, hey, there is NRPC and we
library that, hey, there is NRPC and we do do a regional plan and here it is and
do do a regional plan and here it is and
do do a regional plan and here it is and here's a QR code to the links. If you
here's a QR code to the links. If you
here's a QR code to the links. If you don't want to sit here and read this
don't want to sit here and read this
don't want to sit here and read this hard copy we're providing, maybe a
hard copy we're providing, maybe a
hard copy we're providing, maybe a little bit more. I don't know if you do
little bit more. I don't know if you do
little bit more. I don't know if you do that. If you do it already, it's already
that. If you do it already, it's already
that. If you do it already, it's already in the plan. Great. But I don't think
in the plan. Great. But I don't think
in the plan. Great. But I don't think I've ever seen one like that
I've ever seen one like that
I've ever seen one like that at the libraries in my area.
at the libraries in my area.
at the libraries in my area. >> I don't think we've ever done that. But
>> I don't think we've ever done that. But
>> I don't think we've ever done that. But that's a good idea.
that's a good idea.
that's a good idea. >> It goes up more than just
>> It goes up more than just
>> It goes up more than just >> Oh, good. Yeah, because that's where you
>> Oh, good. Yeah, because that's where you
>> Oh, good. Yeah, because that's where you really
really
really >> Yeah. printing out printing out a couple
>> Yeah. printing out printing out a couple
>> Yeah. printing out printing out a couple of posters, whatever is not that
of posters, whatever is not that
of posters, whatever is not that expensive in house,
expensive in house,
expensive in house, >> right?
>> right?
>> right? >> You know, it's a simple it's kind of a
>> You know, it's a simple it's kind of a
>> You know, it's a simple it's kind of a straightforward simple task.
straightforward simple task.
straightforward simple task. >> I know you can do QR codes.
>> I know you can do QR codes.
>> I know you can do QR codes. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Right. The recycle center.
>> Right. The recycle center.
>> Right. The recycle center. >> The recycle center. [laughter]
>> Um, and the other thing, oh Jesus, sorry
>> Um, and the other thing, oh Jesus, sorry again. I saw how small the marketing
again. I saw how small the marketing
again. I saw how small the marketing budget was,
budget was,
budget was, >> so I'm trying to like use our towns. Um,
>> so I'm trying to like use our towns. Um,
>> so I'm trying to like use our towns. Um, anybody who's got
anybody who's got
anybody who's got uh local access television,
uh local access television,
uh local access television, you know, GTM and Milford. I'm pretty
you know, GTM and Milford. I'm pretty
you know, GTM and Milford. I'm pretty sure Ammerst has been do something
sure Ammerst has been do something
sure Ammerst has been do something besides just putting on, you know,
besides just putting on, you know,
besides just putting on, you know, getting on town websites. You can get it
getting on town websites. You can get it
getting on town websites. You can get it out there with a slide.
>> I don't ever done that either.
>> I don't ever done that either. >> Might not work in Wilboro, but work in
>> Might not work in Wilboro, but work in
>> Might not work in Wilboro, but work in some of the other towns. [clears throat]
some of the other towns. [clears throat]
some of the other towns. [clears throat] >> Certainly Marramac, Hudson, that's true.
>> Certainly Marramac, Hudson, that's true.
>> Certainly Marramac, Hudson, that's true. We can promote it by a live stream of a
We can promote it by a live stream of a
We can promote it by a live stream of a select board meeting.
>> Go to the engage site.
>> Go to the engage site. I am not
I am not
I am not >> there. All right.
>> there. All right.
>> there. All right. >> Okay.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. >> Any other comments on the
>> Any other comments on the
>> Any other comments on the [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] >> How long? They're supposed to be done
>> How long? They're supposed to be done
>> How long? They're supposed to be done how many years?
how many years?
how many years? >> Five.
>> Five.
>> Five. >> They're supposed to be done every five
>> They're supposed to be done every five
>> They're supposed to be done every five years.
years.
years. >> Yeah. We lacked it 12 years ago.
>> Yeah. We lacked it 12 years ago.
>> Yeah. We lacked it 12 years ago. Is that different from from the towns?
Is that different from from the towns?
Is that different from from the towns? Because I thought the towns during 10
Because I thought the towns during 10
Because I thought the towns during 10 years was requirement.
years was requirement.
years was requirement. >> Uh fiveyear updates for the towns too.
>> Uh fiveyear updates for the towns too.
>> Uh fiveyear updates for the towns too. >> Is it really?
>> Is it really?
>> Is it really? >> Nobody does.
>> All right. So other updates then?
>> All right. So other updates then? >> That's it. [clears throat]
>> That's it. [clears throat]
>> That's it. [clears throat] I did want to mention um NRPC as you may
I did want to mention um NRPC as you may
I did want to mention um NRPC as you may know is in the process of updating our
know is in the process of updating our
know is in the process of updating our website just a little refresh to make it
website just a little refresh to make it
website just a little refresh to make it look pretty. So we're hoping to have
look pretty. So we're hoping to have
look pretty. So we're hoping to have that launching sometime in July. Um
that launching sometime in July. Um
that launching sometime in July. Um Sarah and I and um a group of people
Sarah and I and um a group of people
Sarah and I and um a group of people have been working on that. It's looking
have been working on that. It's looking
have been working on that. It's looking really good. So we're just putting those
really good. So we're just putting those
really good. So we're just putting those final touches on it. So hopefully it'll
final touches on it. So hopefully it'll
final touches on it. So hopefully it'll help you find things easier. Um, the
help you find things easier. Um, the
help you find things easier. Um, the other thing I wanted to mention, a
other thing I wanted to mention, a
other thing I wanted to mention, a couple people mentioned the new grant
couple people mentioned the new grant
couple people mentioned the new grant writing assistance program. I'm sure you
writing assistance program. I'm sure you
writing assistance program. I'm sure you all got the email, but if you click on
all got the email, but if you click on
all got the email, but if you click on the attachment, it has this poster that
the attachment, it has this poster that
the attachment, it has this poster that explains a little bit more about the
explains a little bit more about the
explains a little bit more about the different levels um of tiered support
different levels um of tiered support
different levels um of tiered support that are available. Don't mind my lunch
that are available. Don't mind my lunch
that are available. Don't mind my lunch that made a big spot on it on the bottom
that made a big spot on it on the bottom
that made a big spot on it on the bottom there. But um yeah, no, it's a very
there. But um yeah, no, it's a very
there. But um yeah, no, it's a very exciting um program that we're happy to
exciting um program that we're happy to
exciting um program that we're happy to get out there.
get out there.
get out there. >> That's it.
>> That's it.
>> That's it. >> Website is one of your line items in
>> Website is one of your line items in
>> Website is one of your line items in your budget.
your budget.
your budget. >> Where's that captured? Managing a
>> Where's that captured? Managing a
>> Where's that captured? Managing a website, especially the one you have
website, especially the one you have
website, especially the one you have that is so robust right now. Well, this
that is so robust right now. Well, this
that is so robust right now. Well, this refresh actually is something that is
refresh actually is something that is
refresh actually is something that is was included in our initial contract
was included in our initial contract
was included in our initial contract with Revise, who hosts our website. They
with Revise, who hosts our website. They
with Revise, who hosts our website. They as part of hosting it, they offer a
as part of hosting it, they offer a
as part of hosting it, they offer a refresh every certain number of years.
refresh every certain number of years.
refresh every certain number of years. We're not sure how many people take
We're not sure how many people take
We're not sure how many people take advantage of that, but we are
advantage of that, but we are
advantage of that, but we are >> um and uh yeah, it's looking really
>> um and uh yeah, it's looking really
>> um and uh yeah, it's looking really good. Now I just wondered where revise
good. Now I just wondered where revise
good. Now I just wondered where revise was in the budget. Where's that capture?
>> I think it's um professional services or
>> I think it's um professional services or is it subscriptions?
is it subscriptions?
is it subscriptions? >> Uh revise would be under subscriptions
>> Uh revise would be under subscriptions
>> Uh revise would be under subscriptions um for their annual uh website hosting
um for their annual uh website hosting
um for their annual uh website hosting um not included in this budget, but if
um not included in this budget, but if
um not included in this budget, but if we were to um need to budget for an
we were to um need to budget for an
we were to um need to budget for an additional refresh, that would likely be
additional refresh, that would likely be
additional refresh, that would likely be budgeted for under professional
budgeted for under professional
budgeted for under professional services. Um but what we're existing um
services. Um but what we're existing um
services. Um but what we're existing um what we're currently paying is under
what we're currently paying is under
what we're currently paying is under subscriptions and subscriptions
subscriptions and subscriptions
subscriptions and subscriptions >> because aren't you having to do a whole
>> because aren't you having to do a whole
>> because aren't you having to do a whole overhaul with the accessibility stuff
overhaul with the accessibility stuff
overhaul with the accessibility stuff with Fed law?
with Fed law?
with Fed law? >> Well, that got moved out that deadline.
>> Well, that got moved out that deadline.
>> Well, that got moved out that deadline. Um the deadline was originally for April
Um the deadline was originally for April
Um the deadline was originally for April 24th of this year, right?
24th of this year, right?
24th of this year, right? >> And they moved out that deadline to next
>> And they moved out that deadline to next
>> And they moved out that deadline to next calendar year. um their revise in itself
calendar year. um their revise in itself
calendar year. um their revise in itself has their websites be designed to be
has their websites be designed to be
has their websites be designed to be accessible. So there wasn't too many
accessible. So there wasn't too many
accessible. So there wasn't too many changes to do with the overhaul. Um but
changes to do with the overhaul. Um but
changes to do with the overhaul. Um but yeah, we've been staying on top of
yeah, we've been staying on top of
yeah, we've been staying on top of trainings and trying to keep that
trainings and trying to keep that
trainings and trying to keep that momentum going because we really think
momentum going because we really think
momentum going because we really think that is so important to to meet all of
that is so important to to meet all of
that is so important to to meet all of those accessibility standards.
those accessibility standards.
those accessibility standards. >> You're one of the ones we're looking at
>> You're one of the ones we're looking at
>> You're one of the ones we're looking at for our new website for this round too.
for our new website for this round too.
for our new website for this round too. Good to know if you like them.
Good to know if you like them.
Good to know if you like them. >> There's pros and cons. We'll cover
>> There's pros and cons. We'll cover
>> There's pros and cons. We'll cover those.
those.
those. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Always happy to talk about it with
>> Always happy to talk about it with
>> Always happy to talk about it with >> We use them at Brookline as well.
>> We use them at Brookline as well.
>> We use them at Brookline as well. >> You do? You like them?
>> You do? You like them?
>> You do? You like them? >> That's a resounding
>> That's a resounding
>> That's a resounding >> said frozen cones.
>> said frozen cones.
>> said frozen cones. >> Their tech support, I have to say, is
>> Their tech support, I have to say, is
>> Their tech support, I have to say, is fantastic. Every time I submit something
fantastic. Every time I submit something
fantastic. Every time I submit something that, you know, I see something wonky
that, you know, I see something wonky
that, you know, I see something wonky and I can't figure it out, they're on
and I can't figure it out, they're on
and I can't figure it out, they're on top of it and very quickly and very
top of it and very quickly and very
top of it and very quickly and very responsive, very thorough. So that's a
responsive, very thorough. So that's a
responsive, very thorough. So that's a pro
pro
pro >> is not good tech support is not ideal.
>> is not good tech support is not ideal.
>> is not good tech support is not ideal. >> Everybody.
>> Everybody.
>> Everybody. >> So do you want to do the commissioner
>> So do you want to do the commissioner
>> So do you want to do the commissioner roundt?
roundt?
roundt? >> Yeah, let's do it.
>> Yeah, let's do it.
>> Yeah, let's do it. >> Yeah, let's do it. Want to start, Chris?
>> Yeah, let's do it. Want to start, Chris?
>> Yeah, let's do it. Want to start, Chris? >> Uh, I'm gonna defer to Janet who somehow
>> Uh, I'm gonna defer to Janet who somehow
>> Uh, I'm gonna defer to Janet who somehow managed to put 28 hours into a 24-hour
managed to put 28 hours into a 24-hour
managed to put 28 hours into a 24-hour day.
day.
day. >> Yes. [laughter]
>> Yes. [laughter]
>> Yes. [laughter] >> Okay. Thank you, Chris.
>> Okay. Thank you, Chris.
>> Okay. Thank you, Chris. Jason,
Jason,
Jason, >> I'll defer as well.
>> I'll defer as well.
>> I'll defer as well. Hey. Hi.
Hey. Hi.
Hey. Hi. >> So, um I've been um I I just finished um
>> So, um I've been um I I just finished um
>> So, um I've been um I I just finished um the uh UNH outdoor academy. It was
the uh UNH outdoor academy. It was
the uh UNH outdoor academy. It was outdoor um economics is kind of the way
outdoor um economics is kind of the way
outdoor um economics is kind of the way they're looking at it. And I'm curious
they're looking at it. And I'm curious
they're looking at it. And I'm curious as to what other towns are doing with
as to what other towns are doing with
as to what other towns are doing with TIFF districts um in order to fund some
TIFF districts um in order to fund some
TIFF districts um in order to fund some of these projects. We went to NSHA. It
of these projects. We went to NSHA. It
of these projects. We went to NSHA. It was fantastic. We went to um Plymouth to
was fantastic. We went to um Plymouth to
was fantastic. We went to um Plymouth to take a look at what was happening up
take a look at what was happening up
take a look at what was happening up there. Um but I've found that from an
there. Um but I've found that from an
there. Um but I've found that from an economic point of view, all the money
economic point of view, all the money
economic point of view, all the money that is spent by tourists and people
that is spent by tourists and people
that is spent by tourists and people that are coming in to really kind of the
that are coming in to really kind of the
that are coming in to really kind of the outdoor um economy, if you will, um is a
outdoor um economy, if you will, um is a
outdoor um economy, if you will, um is a design center for our towns now. And
design center for our towns now. And
design center for our towns now. And we're really looking at it's not just
we're really looking at it's not just
we're really looking at it's not just riverwalks, but public gathering places
riverwalks, but public gathering places
riverwalks, but public gathering places and things that really create a sense of
and things that really create a sense of
and things that really create a sense of community. But there's a whole economic
community. But there's a whole economic
community. But there's a whole economic piece to that and I and a public health
piece to that and I and a public health
piece to that and I and a public health piece to that that I think is really
piece to that that I think is really
piece to that that I think is really interesting. I will provide some of the
interesting. I will provide some of the
interesting. I will provide some of the information and some of resources that
information and some of resources that
information and some of resources that were um gathered as part of the UNH
were um gathered as part of the UNH
were um gathered as part of the UNH extension that did this thing as part of
extension that did this thing as part of
extension that did this thing as part of one of their academy series. It's a
one of their academy series. It's a
one of their academy series. It's a brand new program. Hopefully they'll do
brand new program. Hopefully they'll do
brand new program. Hopefully they'll do it more. If they do, I really invite
it more. If they do, I really invite
it more. If they do, I really invite people to take advantage of the three
people to take advantage of the three
people to take advantage of the three days and they'll do three different
days and they'll do three different
days and they'll do three different cities than they did this time. But the
cities than they did this time. But the
cities than they did this time. But the the financial piece of it is really
the financial piece of it is really
the financial piece of it is really interesting as to what that can do and
interesting as to what that can do and
interesting as to what that can do and bring to a town. Um and also um what
bring to a town. Um and also um what
bring to a town. Um and also um what that does for the people in your
that does for the people in your
that does for the people in your community, especially aging communities
community, especially aging communities
community, especially aging communities um to get people outside all times of
um to get people outside all times of
um to get people outside all times of the year. Um but you have to provide the
the year. Um but you have to provide the
the year. Um but you have to provide the draw to do that. Um and how do you fund
draw to do that. Um and how do you fund
draw to do that. Um and how do you fund those projects and how do you weave that
those projects and how do you weave that
those projects and how do you weave that into everything you're trying to do with
into everything you're trying to do with
into everything you're trying to do with infrastructure and housing and all the
infrastructure and housing and all the
infrastructure and housing and all the rest of it? It was a fascinating
rest of it? It was a fascinating
rest of it? It was a fascinating program. So Shannon Rogers, if anybody
program. So Shannon Rogers, if anybody
program. So Shannon Rogers, if anybody knows her, PhD with UNH that's doing
knows her, PhD with UNH that's doing
knows her, PhD with UNH that's doing this as part of their academy series.
this as part of their academy series.
this as part of their academy series. Outdoor economy, baby. That's the way to
Outdoor economy, baby. That's the way to
Outdoor economy, baby. That's the way to do it.
do it.
do it. >> Go ahead. That's it.
>> Go ahead. That's it.
>> Go ahead. That's it. >> Yeah, I'll defer as as well.
>> Yeah, I'll defer as as well.
>> Yeah, I'll defer as as well. >> I'll I'll report on our election
>> I'll I'll report on our election
>> I'll I'll report on our election results. I probably should have done
results. I probably should have done
results. I probably should have done last meeting, but I did. So some the you
last meeting, but I did. So some the you
last meeting, but I did. So some the you know in addition to the fire engines and
know in addition to the fire engines and
know in addition to the fire engines and all that kind of stuff the the
all that kind of stuff the the
all that kind of stuff the the highlights from my perspective were uh
highlights from my perspective were uh
highlights from my perspective were uh we voted the town voted to appropriate a
we voted the town voted to appropriate a
we voted the town voted to appropriate a sum of $500,000 for Robinson pond
sum of $500,000 for Robinson pond
sum of $500,000 for Robinson pond improvements which would primarily be a
improvements which would primarily be a
improvements which would primarily be a boat ramp area and $250,000 would come
boat ramp area and $250,000 would come
boat ramp area and $250,000 would come from town taxes and 250,000 would come
from town taxes and 250,000 would come
from town taxes and 250,000 would come from a state land and water conservation
from a state land and water conservation
from a state land and water conservation fund.
fund.
fund. Uh the next one, Route 102 sidewalks. We
Uh the next one, Route 102 sidewalks. We
Uh the next one, Route 102 sidewalks. We have a great
have a great
have a great mile and a half long unfinished sidewalk
mile and a half long unfinished sidewalk
mile and a half long unfinished sidewalk in Hudson that goes from Mount
in Hudson that goes from Mount
in Hudson that goes from Mount Hannerford
Hannerford
Hannerford >> to the Albert High School with
>> to the Albert High School with
>> to the Albert High School with significant gaps and rather
significant gaps and rather
significant gaps and rather significantly dangerous areas. So we uh
significantly dangerous areas. So we uh
significantly dangerous areas. So we uh the town voted to raise and appropriate
the town voted to raise and appropriate
the town voted to raise and appropriate $2 million
$2 million
$2 million for the design and construction of new
for the design and construction of new
for the design and construction of new sidewalks along that section I was
sidewalks along that section I was
sidewalks along that section I was referring to. 1.6 Six would come from
referring to. 1.6 Six would come from
referring to. 1.6 Six would come from DOT which we just talked about and then
DOT which we just talked about and then
DOT which we just talked about and then 400,000 would come from our corridor
400,000 would come from our corridor
400,000 would come from our corridor funds that we've collected from several
they get
they get by CL
by CL
by CL uh we voted to revise the Benson land
uh we voted to revise the Benson land
uh we voted to revise the Benson land capital reserve fund. So capital
capital reserve fund. So capital
capital reserve fund. So capital projects usually new things right
projects usually new things right
projects usually new things right we're allowing that money to also be
we're allowing that money to also be
we're allowing that money to also be used for the maintenance and repair of
used for the maintenance and repair of
used for the maintenance and repair of existing builder so you know our gorilla
existing builder so you know our gorilla
existing builder so you know our gorilla cages or elephant parks all that stuff
cages or elephant parks all that stuff
cages or elephant parks all that stuff which we've been pres preserving there's
which we've been pres preserving there's
which we've been pres preserving there's some additional preserve that
some additional preserve that
some additional preserve that and of course we approve the state
and of course we approve the state
and of course we approve the state changes to ADUs and and the family
changes to ADUs and and the family
changes to ADUs and and the family daycare
daycare
daycare said and um I thought that I thought the
said and um I thought that I thought the
said and um I thought that I thought the uh vote differential was pretty
uh vote differential was pretty
uh vote differential was pretty significant there. You know, obviously
significant there. You know, obviously
significant there. You know, obviously we have a lot of voters that don't vote
we have a lot of voters that don't vote
we have a lot of voters that don't vote in these elections, but um we had 2011
in these elections, but um we had 2011
in these elections, but um we had 2011 voted for the ADUs versus 632 voted
voted for the ADUs versus 632 voted
voted for the ADUs versus 632 voted against it. And then for the family
against it. And then for the family
against it. And then for the family daycare, we had 1885 approve it and 768
daycare, we had 1885 approve it and 768
daycare, we had 1885 approve it and 768 gas stations.
gas stations.
gas stations. And then the last one, uh, we have a
And then the last one, uh, we have a
And then the last one, uh, we have a section in town called the TR zone. This
section in town called the TR zone. This
section in town called the TR zone. This is area in town where lot size is
is area in town where lot size is
is area in town where lot size is minimum lot size is 10,000 square feet.
minimum lot size is 10,000 square feet.
minimum lot size is 10,000 square feet. Most of the lots in that area are 10,000
Most of the lots in that area are 10,000
Most of the lots in that area are 10,000 square feet. And over the years, we
square feet. And over the years, we
square feet. And over the years, we we've had de we had put originally all
we've had de we had put originally all
we've had de we had put originally all the setbacks were the same setbacks we
the setbacks were the same setbacks we
the setbacks were the same setbacks we used for every other size lot and it was
used for every other size lot and it was
used for every other size lot and it was really restrictive for these areas. So,
really restrictive for these areas. So,
really restrictive for these areas. So, we've been slowly opening them up and
we've been slowly opening them up and
we've been slowly opening them up and this year we approved the voters
this year we approved the voters
this year we approved the voters approved to um tighten up the front
approved to um tighten up the front
approved to um tighten up the front setback. So, and because many of the
setback. So, and because many of the
setback. So, and because many of the houses in the TR zone violate what was
houses in the TR zone violate what was
houses in the TR zone violate what was currently in place anyway just to make
currently in place anyway just to make
currently in place anyway just to make it more livable in that area and it's
it more livable in that area and it's
it more livable in that area and it's [clears throat] a higher density area.
[clears throat] a higher density area.
[clears throat] a higher density area. >> So, trying to make
>> So, trying to make
>> So, trying to make >> that's what I've got. Thank you,
>> that's what I've got. Thank you,
>> that's what I've got. Thank you, >> Marramac. We're just um one of the
>> Marramac. We're just um one of the
>> Marramac. We're just um one of the issues we're wrestling with and it's
issues we're wrestling with and it's
issues we're wrestling with and it's probably good for all the other
probably good for all the other
probably good for all the other communities to uh hear about it is um in
communities to uh hear about it is um in
communities to uh hear about it is um in 2029
2029
2029 the DOT in the state is going to hand us
the DOT in the state is going to hand us
the DOT in the state is going to hand us Continental Boulevard.
Continental Boulevard.
Continental Boulevard. We currently have Continental Boulevard
We currently have Continental Boulevard
We currently have Continental Boulevard from exit 11 to Industrial Drive, which
from exit 11 to Industrial Drive, which
from exit 11 to Industrial Drive, which is about a mile and a half of a four or
is about a mile and a half of a four or
is about a mile and a half of a four or five lane road. they decided that they
five lane road. they decided that they
five lane road. they decided that they didn't want anymore and that this was
didn't want anymore and that this was
didn't want anymore and that this was something that Marramac should have.
something that Marramac should have.
something that Marramac should have. [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] So, um they are going to give it to us.
So, um they are going to give it to us.
So, um they are going to give it to us. Their estimated cost to us as a town is
Their estimated cost to us as a town is
Their estimated cost to us as a town is about $750,000
about $750,000
about $750,000 extra a year in taxes just for
extra a year in taxes just for
extra a year in taxes just for maintenance and that doesn't cover um
maintenance and that doesn't cover um
maintenance and that doesn't cover um redoing [clears throat]
redoing [clears throat]
redoing [clears throat] uh drainage or anything that comes up
uh drainage or anything that comes up
uh drainage or anything that comes up over the next decade or so. The issue
over the next decade or so. The issue
over the next decade or so. The issue being is that if they can do that to us,
being is that if they can do that to us,
being is that if they can do that to us, they can do that to any town they want
they can do that to any town they want
they can do that to any town they want when they decide. And that's something
when they decide. And that's something
when they decide. And that's something um our state reps have been uh making it
um our state reps have been uh making it
um our state reps have been uh making it trying to make a case up there, not with
trying to make a case up there, not with
trying to make a case up there, not with a lot of success. It's not done yet. Um
a lot of success. It's not done yet. Um
a lot of success. It's not done yet. Um and uh there may be a legal fight, but
and uh there may be a legal fight, but
and uh there may be a legal fight, but it really is something to think about.
it really is something to think about.
it really is something to think about. And I think there's a lot of
And I think there's a lot of
And I think there's a lot of communities, a lot of state reps
communities, a lot of state reps
communities, a lot of state reps that are like, "Hey, this isn't my
that are like, "Hey, this isn't my
that are like, "Hey, this isn't my problem. This is Marramac and you guys
problem. This is Marramac and you guys
problem. This is Marramac and you guys will have to deal with it." It could be
will have to deal with it." It could be
will have to deal with it." It could be your problem someday if they decide
your problem someday if they decide
your problem someday if they decide that, you know, think about a stateowned
that, you know, think about a stateowned
that, you know, think about a stateowned road in your community if they decide,
road in your community if they decide,
road in your community if they decide, well, our budget's tight and so forth,
well, our budget's tight and so forth,
well, our budget's tight and so forth, and we're going to give it to you guys
and we're going to give it to you guys
and we're going to give it to you guys now.
now.
now. So that that's an interesting
So that that's an interesting
So that that's an interesting >> Go ahead.
>> Go ahead.
>> Go ahead. Who owns 3 3A? 3A.
Who owns 3 3A? 3A.
Who owns 3 3A? 3A. >> 3A is number 3A plus 3A. You're talking
>> 3A is number 3A plus 3A. You're talking
>> 3A is number 3A plus 3A. You're talking about Route 3.
about Route 3.
about Route 3. >> Yeah, you know the one that comes up by
>> Yeah, you know the one that comes up by
>> Yeah, you know the one that comes up by Buckley. That's the one I want.
Buckley. That's the one I want.
Buckley. That's the one I want. >> Yeah. 3A. The state takes Route 3 to
>> Yeah. 3A. The state takes Route 3 to
>> Yeah. 3A. The state takes Route 3 to Gley Street.
Gley Street.
Gley Street. >> Okay. So Nashville Line to Gley Street
>> Okay. So Nashville Line to Gley Street
>> Okay. So Nashville Line to Gley Street and then from Bedford Road which
and then from Bedford Road which
and then from Bedford Road which [clears throat] landmark would be if you
[clears throat] landmark would be if you
[clears throat] landmark would be if you know Marramac and all Walgreens to
know Marramac and all Walgreens to
know Marramac and all Walgreens to Homestead Restaurant to the Bedford
Homestead Restaurant to the Bedford
Homestead Restaurant to the Bedford line. Um so they do have those. Okay.
line. Um so they do have those. Okay.
line. Um so they do have those. Okay. >> And they have exit 11, not exit 11, exit
>> And they have exit 11, not exit 11, exit
>> And they have exit 11, not exit 11, exit 10, the interchange by the album.
10, the interchange by the album.
10, the interchange by the album. [clears throat]
[clears throat]
[clears throat] Um so yeah, I just figured I'd throw
Um so yeah, I just figured I'd throw
Um so yeah, I just figured I'd throw that out there. Something to consider.
that out there. Something to consider.
that out there. Something to consider. Maybe talk to your state reps if they
Maybe talk to your state reps if they
Maybe talk to your state reps if they can do it to us. might be able to do it
can do it to us. might be able to do it
can do it to us. might be able to do it to you. Thank you.
to you. Thank you.
to you. Thank you. But it's a gift. [laughter]
>> Just make sure they get that work done
>> Just make sure they get that work done at the mouth of Continental Boulevard,
at the mouth of Continental Boulevard,
at the mouth of Continental Boulevard, please.
>> Seems to take forever, doesn't it?
>> Seems to take forever, doesn't it? >> Yeah. A little drainage issue there.
>> Yeah. A little drainage issue there.
>> Yeah. A little drainage issue there. >> So, uh, so Marramck has moved our
>> So, uh, so Marramck has moved our
>> So, uh, so Marramck has moved our fireworks to the Kohl's site. So if
fireworks to the Kohl's site. So if
fireworks to the Kohl's site. So if anyone comes to Marramac to see the
anyone comes to Marramac to see the
anyone comes to Marramac to see the tremendous fireworks and it being happy
tremendous fireworks and it being happy
tremendous fireworks and it being happy birthday America year um you know just
birthday America year um you know just
birthday America year um you know just realize that there will be uh making
realize that there will be uh making
realize that there will be uh making lots of noise somewhere else than
lots of noise somewhere else than
lots of noise somewhere else than normal.
normal.
normal. >> Budweiser keep if you don't know where
>> Budweiser keep if you don't know where
>> Budweiser keep if you don't know where Coldswe
Coldswe
Coldswe Budweiser
Budweiser
Budweiser >> what was Budweiser
>> what was Budweiser
>> what was Budweiser um and and our parade is going to run
um and and our parade is going to run
um and and our parade is going to run backwards this year meaning it's going
backwards this year meaning it's going
backwards this year meaning it's going to start the at the end and finish at
to start the at the end and finish at
to start the at the end and finish at the beginning. So [laughter]
the beginning. So [laughter]
the beginning. So [laughter] >> fingers crossed
>> fingers crossed
>> fingers crossed >> going in reverse with everything.
>> going in reverse with everything.
>> going in reverse with everything. >> Yeah.
Exactly. Well, the marchers will get to
Exactly. Well, the marchers will get to march downhill now because a significant
march downhill now because a significant
march downhill now because a significant portion is up. So they'll be very happy.
portion is up. So they'll be very happy.
portion is up. So they'll be very happy. The the old cars with with with a clutch
The the old cars with with with a clutch
The the old cars with with with a clutch and gears will be really happy.
and gears will be really happy.
and gears will be really happy. >> Yeah. So yeah. So there's a there's
>> Yeah. So yeah. So there's a there's
>> Yeah. So yeah. So there's a there's benefit there.
benefit there.
benefit there. That's all I have.
That's all I have.
That's all I have. Farmers markets have started up in
Farmers markets have started up in
Farmers markets have started up in Pollen every Saturday. You'd like to
Pollen every Saturday. You'd like to
Pollen every Saturday. You'd like to come down, that's always a fun day. In
come down, that's always a fun day. In
come down, that's always a fun day. In our community garden is up and running
our community garden is up and running
our community garden is up and running again at Marian Farm next to our
again at Marian Farm next to our
again at Marian Farm next to our allpurp.
It's kind of a slow time of year, but
It's kind of a slow time of year, but something um pretty big did happen. the
something um pretty big did happen. the
something um pretty big did happen. the uh board of select when we did have a
uh board of select when we did have a
uh board of select when we did have a grant for a piece of a rail trail that
grant for a piece of a rail trail that
grant for a piece of a rail trail that we ended up uh voting a no build. There
we ended up uh voting a no build. There
we ended up uh voting a no build. There were several reasons um a lot of issues
were several reasons um a lot of issues
were several reasons um a lot of issues for a butters and the the conservation
for a butters and the the conservation
for a butters and the the conservation commission which actually had a piece of
commission which actually had a piece of
commission which actually had a piece of that. Um so we ended up with a no build.
that. Um so we ended up with a no build.
that. Um so we ended up with a no build. So maybe some of you are getting that
So maybe some of you are getting that
So maybe some of you are getting that money that we turned down. So depending
money that we turned down. So depending
money that we turned down. So depending on who you talk to, I'm a hero or worst
on who you talk to, I'm a hero or worst
on who you talk to, I'm a hero or worst person in [laughter]
person in [laughter]
person in [laughter] >> meaning you're keeping the rail.
>> meaning you're keeping the rail.
>> meaning you're keeping the rail. >> What?
>> What?
>> What? >> Meaning you're keeping the rail
>> Meaning you're keeping the rail
>> Meaning you're keeping the rail >> instead of doing a rail rail.
>> instead of doing a rail rail.
>> instead of doing a rail rail. >> Yeah. A lot of it's privately owned. So
>> Yeah. A lot of it's privately owned. So
>> Yeah. A lot of it's privately owned. So that was a that was a um one of the main
that was a that was a um one of the main
that was a that was a um one of the main issues.
issues.
issues. >> Yeah. I Danielle, I wanted to say that
>> Yeah. I Danielle, I wanted to say that
>> Yeah. I Danielle, I wanted to say that we we have been
we we have been
we we have been looking into whether you could that
looking into whether you could that
looking into whether you could that you're the town of Amlers can take that
you're the town of Amlers can take that
you're the town of Amlers can take that funding from that no build and use it on
funding from that no build and use it on
funding from that no build and use it on another
another
another similar you know non-motorized project.
similar you know non-motorized project.
similar you know non-motorized project. So we were asked to to do that
So we were asked to to do that
So we were asked to to do that >> stay tuned.
>> stay tuned.
>> stay tuned. >> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned. >> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned. >> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned.
>> Stay tuned. >> Stay Yeah. Stay tuned. I sounds like
>> Stay Yeah. Stay tuned. I sounds like
>> Stay Yeah. Stay tuned. I sounds like heard it was planned yet.
heard it was planned yet.
heard it was planned yet. >> Well,
>> Well,
>> Well, >> we have a little little of it over in
>> we have a little little of it over in
>> we have a little little of it over in Milford to kind of finish that sidewalk
Milford to kind of finish that sidewalk
Milford to kind of finish that sidewalk from Ammerst all the way into Milford.
from Ammerst all the way into Milford.
from Ammerst all the way into Milford. [laughter]
Yeah, we still have a grant from the red
Yeah, we still have a grant from the red light to up by the um disco. So, that's
light to up by the um disco. So, that's
light to up by the um disco. So, that's another that's another we still we still
another that's another we still we still
another that's another we still we still have other grants.
have other grants.
have other grants. >> We we were trying to share.
>> We we were trying to share.
>> We we were trying to share. >> No, I'm I'm fine with that.
>> No, I'm I'm fine with that.
>> No, I'm I'm fine with that. >> The more the more the marrier.
>> The more the more the marrier.
>> The more the more the marrier. I thought you had issues under that road
I thought you had issues under that road
I thought you had issues under that road though.
though.
though. >> We've got a lot of issues in that road.
>> We've got a lot of issues in that road.
>> We've got a lot of issues in that road. >> Apparently not anymore.
>> It's amazing how the story changes from,
>> It's amazing how the story changes from, you know, every three years or so,
you know, every three years or so,
you know, every three years or so, right?
right?
right? >> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> Joe,
>> Joe,
>> Joe, >> yeah. Okay. So I was late to the meeting
>> yeah. Okay. So I was late to the meeting
>> yeah. Okay. So I was late to the meeting today and the reason is that we had to
today and the reason is that we had to
today and the reason is that we had to have two special meetings in Hollis uh
have two special meetings in Hollis uh
have two special meetings in Hollis uh for the school districts and uh I guess
for the school districts and uh I guess
for the school districts and uh I guess the cautionary tale is that the DRRA
the cautionary tale is that the DRRA
the cautionary tale is that the DRRA looked at the warrants. We held the
looked at the warrants. We held the
looked at the warrants. We held the meetings back in March and they were
meetings back in March and they were
meetings back in March and they were posted by the deadline, but the
posted by the deadline, but the
posted by the deadline, but the signatures weren't posted on the copies
signatures weren't posted on the copies
signatures weren't posted on the copies that went up
that went up
that went up >> and the DRRA subsequently
>> and the DRRA subsequently
>> and the DRRA subsequently looked into this that they have to get
looked into this that they have to get
looked into this that they have to get the documents after the meeting and it
the documents after the meeting and it
the documents after the meeting and it turned out that they rejected the
turned out that they rejected the
turned out that they rejected the appropriations that were made at that
appropriations that were made at that
appropriations that were made at that meeting. So we were at risk of uh
meeting. So we were at risk of uh
meeting. So we were at risk of uh getting to July 1st and having no money
getting to July 1st and having no money
getting to July 1st and having no money to spend. So uh I attended the first
to spend. So uh I attended the first
to spend. So uh I attended the first meeting and the meeting was held to cure
meeting and the meeting was held to cure
meeting and the meeting was held to cure the the term legal term is to cure the
the the term legal term is to cure the
the the term legal term is to cure the defect in the meeting in the notice. So
defect in the meeting in the notice. So
defect in the meeting in the notice. So that uh passed.
that uh passed.
that uh passed. I voted at the second meeting. I expect
I voted at the second meeting. I expect
I voted at the second meeting. I expect that that will have passed also but I
that that will have passed also but I
that that will have passed also but I kind of ran right here after that. Um
kind of ran right here after that. Um
kind of ran right here after that. Um the other thing going on in Hollis is uh
the other thing going on in Hollis is uh
the other thing going on in Hollis is uh we do have our 250th celebration
we do have our 250th celebration
we do have our 250th celebration and uh July 11th we will be having our
and uh July 11th we will be having our
and uh July 11th we will be having our fireworks display for that. So looking
fireworks display for that. So looking
fireworks display for that. So looking forward to it. That's it.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Oh yeah. >> Um in lineboro it's been a very quiet
>> Um in lineboro it's been a very quiet
>> Um in lineboro it's been a very quiet few months and uh we have
few months and uh we have
few months and uh we have relatively little to report. So, move
relatively little to report. So, move
relatively little to report. So, move on.
on.
on. >> Okay,
>> Okay,
>> Okay, Litchfield. Well, not on the board of
Litchfield. Well, not on the board of
Litchfield. Well, not on the board of selectment anymore to get all the
selectment anymore to get all the
selectment anymore to get all the information that I used to have. So, I
information that I used to have. So, I
information that I used to have. So, I have to reach out before the next
have to reach out before the next
have to reach out before the next meeting, but uh we have our strawberry
meeting, but uh we have our strawberry
meeting, but uh we have our strawberry festival this Saturday from 11 to 2
festival this Saturday from 11 to 2
festival this Saturday from 11 to 2 Charles Bankra Highway
81. Uh the 250th is going along
81. Uh the 250th is going along planning. Uh we have the first annual
planning. Uh we have the first annual
planning. Uh we have the first annual Natok Pasakaway memorial pow scheduled.
Natok Pasakaway memorial pow scheduled.
Natok Pasakaway memorial pow scheduled. They are going to come in. They are from
They are going to come in. They are from
They are going to come in. They are from all around the country to come in. Uh
all around the country to come in. Uh
all around the country to come in. Uh and it's going to be a native, you know,
and it's going to be a native, you know,
and it's going to be a native, you know, all of the Native American dance. So
all of the Native American dance. So
all of the Native American dance. So that's going to be interesting. And I
that's going to be interesting. And I
that's going to be interesting. And I think Warner, isn't there a group up
think Warner, isn't there a group up
think Warner, isn't there a group up there in Warner?
there in Warner?
there in Warner? >> Yeah, that's who we reached out to and
>> Yeah, that's who we reached out to and
>> Yeah, that's who we reached out to and they helped put this together with us.
they helped put this together with us.
they helped put this together with us. So our town has a lot with Pasakonaway,
So our town has a lot with Pasakonaway,
So our town has a lot with Pasakonaway, our town seal, everything, you know,
our town seal, everything, you know,
our town seal, everything, you know, everything you you know all the names
everything you you know all the names
everything you you know all the names that we have. So they were really
that we have. So they were really
that we have. So they were really impressed with that. Uh and then we do
impressed with that. Uh and then we do
impressed with that. Uh and then we do also on the 250th on a different day.
also on the 250th on a different day.
also on the 250th on a different day. Oh, that that power which is by the way
Oh, that that power which is by the way
Oh, that that power which is by the way would be on what day? August 1st and
would be on what day? August 1st and
would be on what day? August 1st and 2nd. Um then July 25th and 26th we also
2nd. Um then July 25th and 26th we also
2nd. Um then July 25th and 26th we also have um the other part of our 250th
have um the other part of our 250th
have um the other part of our 250th birthday. We'll have tethered air
birthday. We'll have tethered air
birthday. We'll have tethered air balloons, which I can't believe it in an
balloons, which I can't believe it in an
balloons, which I can't believe it in an airspace was reserved, but you know,
airspace was reserved, but you know,
airspace was reserved, but you know, lower balloons, petting zoo, um I guess
lower balloons, petting zoo, um I guess
lower balloons, petting zoo, um I guess hay rides, dunk booth, all that. So,
hay rides, dunk booth, all that. So,
hay rides, dunk booth, all that. So, it's pony rides. It'll be fun.
it's pony rides. It'll be fun.
it's pony rides. It'll be fun. >> That's all I have to report.
>> You're going to help me out with it.
>> You're going to help me out with it. >> One item. Let me just So
>> One item. Let me just So
>> One item. Let me just So the voters in Milford decided that we
the voters in Milford decided that we
the voters in Milford decided that we came to the party for the 250th way too
came to the party for the 250th way too
came to the party for the 250th way too late asking for money on the warrant
late asking for money on the warrant
late asking for money on the warrant that here
that here
that here >> and town fathers started asking for
>> and town fathers started asking for
>> and town fathers started asking for $20,000 and it sank big time in March.
$20,000 and it sank big time in March.
$20,000 and it sank big time in March. >> So that unfortunately put our recreation
>> So that unfortunately put our recreation
>> So that unfortunately put our recreation department in a position where they
department in a position where they
department in a position where they really can't advertise that they're
really can't advertise that they're
really can't advertise that they're doing anything for the 250th because we
doing anything for the 250th because we
doing anything for the 250th because we know no means no. However,
know no means no. However,
know no means no. However, >> poorly thought out.
>> poorly thought out.
>> poorly thought out. >> There's going to be a great event on
>> There's going to be a great event on
>> There's going to be a great event on June 27th at Keys Memorial Park and it's
June 27th at Keys Memorial Park and it's
June 27th at Keys Memorial Park and it's going to be called the Keys Summer Bash
going to be called the Keys Summer Bash
going to be called the Keys Summer Bash and I do believe that they're going to
and I do believe that they're going to
and I do believe that they're going to have a reading of the Declaration of
have a reading of the Declaration of
have a reading of the Declaration of Independence by a number of notori
Independence by a number of notori
Independence by a number of notori notary people from our town
notary people from our town
notary people from our town >> led by Dave Alcox
>> led by Dave Alcox
>> led by Dave Alcox >> and led by Dave Alcox who's a phenomenal
>> and led by Dave Alcox who's a phenomenal
>> and led by Dave Alcox who's a phenomenal individual.
individual.
individual. um as well as touch a truck and food
um as well as touch a truck and food
um as well as touch a truck and food vendors and games and play all kinds of
vendors and games and play all kinds of
vendors and games and play all kinds of stuff. It's going to be great. But
stuff. It's going to be great. But
stuff. It's going to be great. But before that, because I really live in
before that, because I really live in
before that, because I really live in two towns, we're going to go to Wilton
two towns, we're going to go to Wilton
two towns, we're going to go to Wilton Summerfest, which you can talk about.
Summerfest, which you can talk about.
Summerfest, which you can talk about. John, have you got anything else from
John, have you got anything else from
John, have you got anything else from Milford? Because I'm fresh out. The only
Milford? Because I'm fresh out. The only
Milford? Because I'm fresh out. The only thing of note that's happened in the
thing of note that's happened in the
thing of note that's happened in the last two months is after
last two months is after
last two months is after more than a decade of work, we finally
more than a decade of work, we finally
more than a decade of work, we finally signed a conservation easement for the
signed a conservation easement for the
signed a conservation easement for the what we used to call the Brocks property
what we used to call the Brocks property
what we used to call the Brocks property conserving 70 some odd acres of land so
conserving 70 some odd acres of land so
conserving 70 some odd acres of land so we can um start the lawsuit process as
we can um start the lawsuit process as
we can um start the lawsuit process as we try to develop the rest of it.
we try to develop the rest of it.
we try to develop the rest of it. Um so I mean that was actually a major
Um so I mean that was actually a major
Um so I mean that was actually a major achievement. We finally got somewhere,
achievement. We finally got somewhere,
achievement. We finally got somewhere, but um it's going to be a long road to
but um it's going to be a long road to
but um it's going to be a long road to develop the rest of it.
develop the rest of it.
develop the rest of it. >> Unfortunately,
>> Unfortunately,
>> Unfortunately, >> unfortunately, the Brocks property,
>> unfortunately, the Brocks property,
>> unfortunately, the Brocks property, which was purchased by the town in order
which was purchased by the town in order
which was purchased by the town in order to
to
to basically stop some very early um
basically stop some very early um
basically stop some very early um planned urban development in that area
planned urban development in that area
planned urban development in that area and had some advantages for the town to
and had some advantages for the town to
and had some advantages for the town to own it over time, partly because of the
own it over time, partly because of the
own it over time, partly because of the conservation land as well as land for
conservation land as well as land for
conservation land as well as land for school facilities.
school facilities.
school facilities. um has been almost a bone of contention
um has been almost a bone of contention
um has been almost a bone of contention for 25 years now.
for 25 years now.
for 25 years now. >> Yeah, probably.
>> Yeah, probably.
>> Yeah, probably. >> Um and subject to a number of lawsuits
>> Um and subject to a number of lawsuits
>> Um and subject to a number of lawsuits by certain individuals in our community
by certain individuals in our community
by certain individuals in our community that have slowed down a lot of the
that have slowed down a lot of the
that have slowed down a lot of the process. Um we just call them the 91A
process. Um we just call them the 91A
process. Um we just call them the 91A queen, but no names will be mentioned.
queen, but no names will be mentioned.
queen, but no names will be mentioned. >> That was it.
>> That was it.
>> That was it. >> There you go. Thank you.
>> There you go. Thank you.
>> There you go. Thank you. >> Military.
>> Military.
>> Military. you can choose a thing.
you can choose a thing.
you can choose a thing. >> So, Wilton, um, some of the people, a
>> So, Wilton, um, some of the people, a
>> So, Wilton, um, some of the people, a number of the people who do the work are
number of the people who do the work are
number of the people who do the work are leaving. Um, and the one that's the most
leaving. Um, and the one that's the most
leaving. Um, and the one that's the most connected to this one is our land use
connected to this one is our land use
connected to this one is our land use administrator, which puts work on the
administrator, which puts work on the
administrator, which puts work on the folks from NRPC. Um, we also have a
folks from NRPC. Um, we also have a
folks from NRPC. Um, we also have a select board member who is moving to
select board member who is moving to
select board member who is moving to Arizona and for some reason doesn't want
Arizona and for some reason doesn't want
Arizona and for some reason doesn't want to drive back every two weeks for the
to drive back every two weeks for the
to drive back every two weeks for the meeting. I don't get that. But um and
meeting. I don't get that. But um and
meeting. I don't get that. But um and then we have another department head who
then we have another department head who
then we have another department head who is leaving who we're not quite ready to
is leaving who we're not quite ready to
is leaving who we're not quite ready to announce. But all these folks are
announce. But all these folks are
announce. But all these folks are relatively new
relatively new
relatively new uh people, new elected or employed
uh people, new elected or employed
uh people, new elected or employed people. And so it's people just don't do
people. And so it's people just don't do
people. And so it's people just don't do it forever like they used to. Um
it forever like they used to. Um
it forever like they used to. Um we did get our 250th uh event out of the
we did get our 250th uh event out of the
we did get our 250th uh event out of the way. We did it in early May. Um, so sort
way. We did it in early May. Um, so sort
way. We did it in early May. Um, so sort of beat everybody else, I think. Um, the
of beat everybody else, I think. Um, the
of beat everybody else, I think. Um, the downside was it was cold and wet, but
downside was it was cold and wet, but
downside was it was cold and wet, but you know, that's it was a lot of fun. We
you know, that's it was a lot of fun. We
you know, that's it was a lot of fun. We had a we had a lot of different events.
had a we had a lot of different events.
had a we had a lot of different events. We uh added some names to our uh
We uh added some names to our uh
We uh added some names to our uh Revolutionary War memorial. Um, we uh
Revolutionary War memorial. Um, we uh
Revolutionary War memorial. Um, we uh honored people. Um, so I think it was a
honored people. Um, so I think it was a
honored people. Um, so I think it was a good thing. We had a lot of people who
good thing. We had a lot of people who
good thing. We had a lot of people who attended
attended
attended um and
um and
um and >> I give you credit though for your 250th
>> I give you credit though for your 250th
>> I give you credit though for your 250th that was spurred on by an all volunteer
that was spurred on by an all volunteer
that was spurred on by an all volunteer group.
group.
group. >> It was it was
>> It was it was
>> It was it was >> you know and they did an amazing job
>> you know and they did an amazing job
>> you know and they did an amazing job with a number of things they pulled
with a number of things they pulled
with a number of things they pulled together in a relatively short period of
together in a relatively short period of
together in a relatively short period of time. You put a lot of the towns in the
time. You put a lot of the towns in the
time. You put a lot of the towns in the western side of the state of of our
western side of the state of of our
western side of the state of of our region to shame. Good job.
region to shame. Good job.
region to shame. Good job. >> And and no town money was spent on it.
>> And and no town money was spent on it.
>> And and no town money was spent on it. Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly. >> It was all volunteer all sponsored.
>> It was all volunteer all sponsored.
>> It was all volunteer all sponsored. >> Um, as Janet mentioned, uh this Saturday
>> Um, as Janet mentioned, uh this Saturday
>> Um, as Janet mentioned, uh this Saturday we're having our uh Wilton Summerfest,
we're having our uh Wilton Summerfest,
we're having our uh Wilton Summerfest, which is probably the biggest event that
which is probably the biggest event that
which is probably the biggest event that takes place in in in a usual year
takes place in in in a usual year
takes place in in in a usual year independent of the 250th. Um, and that's
independent of the 250th. Um, and that's
independent of the 250th. Um, and that's uh on Main Street uh in downtown Wilton.
uh on Main Street uh in downtown Wilton.
uh on Main Street uh in downtown Wilton. And there's lots of different things. Uh
And there's lots of different things. Uh
And there's lots of different things. Uh and then uh at Carnival Hill uh which is
and then uh at Carnival Hill uh which is
and then uh at Carnival Hill uh which is up the hill from there um we'll have
up the hill from there um we'll have
up the hill from there um we'll have fireworks uh in the evening. So uh if
fireworks uh in the evening. So uh if
fireworks uh in the evening. So uh if you have a chance stop into Wilton and
you have a chance stop into Wilton and
you have a chance stop into Wilton and enjoy our summer fest
enjoy our summer fest
enjoy our summer fest >> that's this Saturday the 20th
>> that's this Saturday the 20th
>> that's this Saturday the 20th >> Saturday all day.
>> I'll defer to the nice gentleman.
>> I'll defer to the nice gentleman. >> Thank [clears throat] you very much. Uh
>> Thank [clears throat] you very much. Uh
>> Thank [clears throat] you very much. Uh real quickly, uh some updates on uh
real quickly, uh some updates on uh
real quickly, uh some updates on uh stuff from April. Uh we've got our town
stuff from April. Uh we've got our town
stuff from April. Uh we've got our town hall staff uh relocated to the Brooklyn
hall staff uh relocated to the Brooklyn
hall staff uh relocated to the Brooklyn Business Center. Uh so uh shout out to
Business Center. Uh so uh shout out to
Business Center. Uh so uh shout out to the Brooklyn Fire Department for
the Brooklyn Fire Department for
the Brooklyn Fire Department for donating their meeting room uh while we
donating their meeting room uh while we
donating their meeting room uh while we got the new space ready with uh alarm
got the new space ready with uh alarm
got the new space ready with uh alarm systems,
systems,
systems, computer cabling, and all that good
computer cabling, and all that good
computer cabling, and all that good stuff. Um, on the subject of uh curing
stuff. Um, on the subject of uh curing
stuff. Um, on the subject of uh curing bonds, um, uh, back in April, we
bonds, um, uh, back in April, we
bonds, um, uh, back in April, we mentioned that we had to cure the bond
mentioned that we had to cure the bond
mentioned that we had to cure the bond for removing Pierce Pond Dam in
for removing Pierce Pond Dam in
for removing Pierce Pond Dam in Brooklyn, which is on the state's red
Brooklyn, which is on the state's red
Brooklyn, which is on the state's red list. Um, because it did not have the
list. Um, because it did not have the
list. Um, because it did not have the five-year tax impact uh, posted with the
five-year tax impact uh, posted with the
five-year tax impact uh, posted with the warrants article. Um, [clears throat]
warrants article. Um, [clears throat]
warrants article. Um, [clears throat] you would think something administrative
you would think something administrative
you would think something administrative like that would not be controversial.
like that would not be controversial.
like that would not be controversial. Oh, contrary. There was like a one-hour
Oh, contrary. There was like a one-hour
Oh, contrary. There was like a one-hour debate before we got to the one hour
debate before we got to the one hour
debate before we got to the one hour voting. So, um, but it passed.
voting. So, um, but it passed.
voting. So, um, but it passed. >> You guys went two days, right?
>> You guys went two days, right?
>> You guys went two days, right? >> Uh, our town meeting went two days,
>> Uh, our town meeting went two days,
>> Uh, our town meeting went two days, correct? And then we have to come back
correct? And then we have to come back
correct? And then we have to come back um to cure the bond for pierce bond dam.
um to cure the bond for pierce bond dam.
um to cure the bond for pierce bond dam. Um
Um
Um and else and
and else and
and else and uh kind of tying into what uh Peter said
uh kind of tying into what uh Peter said
uh kind of tying into what uh Peter said um the uh proposal for the excavation
um the uh proposal for the excavation
um the uh proposal for the excavation project in Mason uh just over the line
project in Mason uh just over the line
project in Mason uh just over the line from Brookline. Uh that application
from Brookline. Uh that application
from Brookline. Uh that application drags on. Um it is now passed the
drags on. Um it is now passed the
drags on. Um it is now passed the uh because it was declared a development
uh because it was declared a development
uh because it was declared a development of regional impact. Um the uh respon the
of regional impact. Um the uh respon the
of regional impact. Um the uh respon the uh uh period between accepting the
uh uh period between accepting the
uh uh period between accepting the application and taking action uh was 95
application and taking action uh was 95
application and taking action uh was 95 days which expired uh back at the end of
days which expired uh back at the end of
days which expired uh back at the end of May. But at the last math planning board
May. But at the last math planning board
May. But at the last math planning board meeting uh they it has uh since been
meeting uh they it has uh since been
meeting uh they it has uh since been extended. Um, so we're working with uh
extended. Um, so we're working with uh
extended. Um, so we're working with uh ma uh the Mason Road agent and the
ma uh the Mason Road agent and the
ma uh the Mason Road agent and the applicant to try to figure out uh how
applicant to try to figure out uh how
applicant to try to figure out uh how we're going to protect uh Mason Road
we're going to protect uh Mason Road
we're going to protect uh Mason Road through Brookline, which is their
through Brookline, which is their
through Brookline, which is their proposed holage route for all the stuff
proposed holage route for all the stuff
proposed holage route for all the stuff they're going to be digging out of the
they're going to be digging out of the
they're going to be digging out of the earth. Um and uh Peter, thanks for the
earth. Um and uh Peter, thanks for the
earth. Um and uh Peter, thanks for the warning because a majority of Mason Road
warning because a majority of Mason Road
warning because a majority of Mason Road uh and the bridge by Lake Botanapo are
uh and the bridge by Lake Botanapo are
uh and the bridge by Lake Botanapo are maintained by the state. Um so if they
maintained by the state. Um so if they
maintained by the state. Um so if they decide that they are going to generously
decide that they are going to generously
decide that they are going to generously give that back to Brooklyn
give that back to Brooklyn
give that back to Brooklyn with this project, which
with this project, which
with this project, which you know, don't know if it's going to be
you know, don't know if it's going to be
you know, don't know if it's going to be approved. I mean, it's an approved use
approved. I mean, it's an approved use
approved. I mean, it's an approved use in the district that it's proposed in
in the district that it's proposed in
in the district that it's proposed in and all that stuff. We could have uh
and all that stuff. We could have uh
and all that stuff. We could have uh interesting times in our future. So,
interesting times in our future. So,
interesting times in our future. So, >> a question.
>> a question.
>> a question. >> Yes, ma'am.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> Yes, ma'am. >> So, when they hit Route 13, they got to
>> So, when they hit Route 13, they got to
>> So, when they hit Route 13, they got to go north or south of those trucks? Um so
go north or south of those trucks? Um so
go north or south of those trucks? Um so the they will be going south um to their
the they will be going south um to their
the they will be going south um to their pro uh the majority of the material is
pro uh the majority of the material is
pro uh the majority of the material is going to go to their processing plant in
going to go to their processing plant in
going to go to their processing plant in Sterling, Massachusetts.
Sterling, Massachusetts.
Sterling, Massachusetts. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> So it'll go down Thursday to route two
>> So it'll go down Thursday to route two
>> So it'll go down Thursday to route two to uh Interstate 19.
to uh Interstate 19.
to uh Interstate 19. >> Thank you. I was just thinking about our
>> Thank you. I was just thinking about our
>> Thank you. I was just thinking about our our lovely stone bridge in Milford.
our lovely stone bridge in Milford.
our lovely stone bridge in Milford. That's all.
That's all.
That's all. >> Um yes.
>> Does anybody else want to add anything?
>> Does anybody else want to add anything? Anything interesting at NRPC we need to
Anything interesting at NRPC we need to
Anything interesting at NRPC we need to know?
know?
know? >> I think we've said enough.
>> I think we've said enough.
>> I think we've said enough. >> I just I do want to add that that we
>> I just I do want to add that that we
>> I just I do want to add that that we have been providing some staff support,
have been providing some staff support,
have been providing some staff support, technical support to the town of Mason
technical support to the town of Mason
technical support to the town of Mason for that.
for that.
for that. >> Yes. Yeah. Cassie is on possible work.
>> Yes. Yeah. Cassie is on possible work.
>> Yes. Yeah. Cassie is on possible work. >> All right. Can we just go back to the
>> All right. Can we just go back to the
>> All right. Can we just go back to the agenda here? All right. I I don't really
agenda here? All right. I I don't really
agenda here? All right. I I don't really have anything else. So,
have anything else. So,
have anything else. So, >> I should do a journ. That's it.
>> I should do a journ. That's it.
>> I should do a journ. That's it. >> Back in.