Littleton Selectboard Work Session 8/17/26
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[music] for all. >> All right, we'll do a little moment of silence. Okay. All right. Thanks for coming to the public meeting today. We have a public hearing. We have two public hearings to accept grants. Um, but first I want to say welcome Dave Harpless to the table. Smile. You're on Canon camera. >> [laughter] >> you will forever be filmed now. [snorts] Um, all right. So, um, the first public hearing is for the opiate abatement community grant for 150,000 and we'll I'll open up the public hearing at 401. And go ahead, Chief Muller. >> Sure. So, this is uh a grant from the opioid abatement trust, which is basically uh a settlement of lawsuits that occurred uh after the opioid crisis. And uh the state and the county have received uh funds from that and they have uh contracted with uh depending on the size of it, different agencies to distribute it. And uh our grant is for uh $75,000 a year for 2 years to a total of $150,000. And it's to uh kickstart our uh mobile integrated healthcare program. So it'll be used uh at least initially we thought we'd hire uh somebody part-time uh to oversee it. And uh a lot of the health care system is siloed and um while our paramedics and firefighters are great at providing care, we needed time for somebody to begin to break those silos down or connect them. And that was really what our vision for this part-time person uh would be. And uh since then though uh there's been a lot more money invested in MIH uh at the state level and we have another grant pending uh that we should receive notice on fairly soon and if that's the case then we would move the position from a part-time position to a full-time position. Uh but the purpose of the grant is to provide that and then we can also build a grant for any costs that we incur related to it such as if we're sending our on shift firefighters to [clears throat] an MIH visit. Uh we can we can tag those costs to to that grant. So >> great. We've heard about this topic a couple times. Chief Miller's come to the board to talk about the NIH program and you spoke about it this morning as well with Goodlander. So >> yeah, we in the grant application was asked to provide uh a number of uh uh I forget the term they used exactly uh but um I'll use a term like critical incidents related to the opioid crisis and I was able to name five I won't name them specifically but what I would call once in a career type incidents that uh I've responded to or the department has responded to and you started toing them all up, the opioid crisis really has had a tremendous effect on the uh town's first responders as well. And um so the more we can do to support people in crisis to keep them from the big crisis, I think is uh a good process. >> Agreed. >> Yes. Do do you know uh are these funds on did the state get a big one big payment or are they being paid out over a period of time? >> So I I I don't know exactly how the state is some of both. So they got some they got a large sum of money but it continues ongoing for a period of time. >> Uh I don't know what that split is. Um, so this the grant we got they gave a 2-year commitment to and then it'll kind of just be to see what happens after that. Um, yeah. And uh we were able to access some of the county's funds as well. We you guys had previously supported [snorts] uh that we used for some first responder wellness, some community CPR, then some background like uh MH system stuff. >> Yeah, this is great. Yep. >> Can some of this be used for I actually read the whole thing. Um, good. Yeah, it sounds like a pretty tough time for some of the uh first responders. So, can some of this be used to help them along after an incident? >> Not this specific grant, I don't believe, but some of the uh because uh this one had a more narrow scope, but some of the opioid money we received from the county, we have their mark for first responder wellness. Okay. and we've used it uh for that purpose. Um and that's been uh that's been very helpful. >> That's a good question. I imagine that there's sometimes levels of PTSD that happen when someone >> Yeah. >> first responders are called to a certain situation. >> Uh and it's all kind of emerging right with PTSD right now or or what sometimes now is called PTS post-traumatic stress. Yeah. >> And some of it's not all it doesn't fit uh like a worker's comp or a traditional. So like some people find uh yoga very beneficial uh and helping them process that. Well, that may not know you break your arm, you put it in the cast. It seems pretty straightforward. Uh but you suffer from PTS and there's not a single path forward. Right. So that those monies give us some flexibility in trying to find ways to help first responders that may not be just your traditional talk therapy. >> Great. Paul, any thing? I'm going to open it up. We can still have more to say. Anybody from the >> public? Quick question. Chief, if I heard you correct me, so this money, all of it or largely all of it is going to go toward the salary of the person who's going to >> So there's some program support and and part-time position. Uh that that was the plan until this new round of funding in a separate funding source was announced. Um which we should have an answer on in the next couple weeks essentially. So we're we're not going to advertise right away. Hey, we're going to, you know, wait a short period of time, uh, and see how that goes. Cuz then if we can if we can get somebody full-time, we we'd rather do that >> um than than start parttime. And then if that person's not available to take a full-time job, you know, then we are we starting over, what are we doing? So, it seems prudent just to wait a few weeks and see how everything shakes out. But that's the majority of it is is the program in support of the program. >> Are there any NIH programs um locally? >> Yeah. So, uh, we're very we're very fortunate. I I've really, uh, Wilton Regional Healthcare got us started in this. Essentially, they got it they got a northern border northern borders regional grant, uh, and started this whole process. And there's no road map for doing this. It'll appear like there is, but very much you have to will it into existence. And it's really about uh relationships, you know, building a relationship with uh the mental health workers, with our community health workers, with physicians, and finding that path forward for each one of these individuals that are in this program. And what I really like about this program, too, it's not just for those having a mental health crisis or an opioid crisis or co-core current disorders. We just received word from the state we're 17th in the state for lift assist. So we're the 17th CS EMS service to provide lift assist. These are usually typically elderly people who are in their homes often with a loved one, a spouse or a family member where we get called to help them out. So this program can provide support to them as well uh to for uh emergency department avoidance. So making sure that uh they have all the do they have a walker? Are there trip hazards like rugs, cables, do they have smoke detectors? Can we can go put handrails in the bathroom if that's the obstacle? Uh so we get to provide a lot of support and it's been a big mission of mine to keep people in their homes as long as you can. I think that's >> all any of us want. Uh we all know how it ends. Uh but you know it's the journey that makes it interesting and uh I think that's you know one of the best things that our department does is help keep people in their homes as long as possible and uh this program provides a lot of support for that as well. >> That's great. >> So you see this program lasting 2 years, 3 years? Well, so it's kind of interesting because the the the feds have recognized this as innovative, but they they funded it through a grant program, but they don't fund it through the traditional reimbursement processes. So like when we do an ambulance transport, if you're a Medicare patient, we will build Medicare and they pay it. Uh if we go do a liftist, Medicare doesn't think that that brings any value. Uh and so they don't pay it. uh they don't they don't pass to go check and do med reconciliations and with the elderly. Um it's very much an old system designed in the 60s which is if you bring somebody to the hospital we'll pay you to do that. Well healthcare has changed dramatically and so part of what needs to come from this the federal government recognizes that this is innovative but they need to completely change the payer structure. That's politics. Do I have a lot of faith that we can find, you know, a political solution to, you know, how to fund this? I don't. But I'm hopeful because I think we're going to get really good results. And I think anybody that deploys the system has gotten really good results and uh I think it's the way of the future. >> They'll keep people out of the hospital and the cost down >> by visiting them at their home. And um so you're it's a grapper. I mean, it's a care and then getting that doing wraparound services. Well, there'll be like a social work component to it then obviously cuz you're >> Yeah, not in our initial program and that's a weakness that we've recognized. Uh because I can do a lot of things. Uh I've been trained pretty well, but uh I'm not a social worker and we really lack those types of skills. You know, we're good in an emergency. We can go pick you up. We can counter those. We can get you settled. We can do all those things but the the ongoing connectivity to to the not just the health care system but whether it's PT uh you know home health there's a gap you can fall uh and get injured and ultimately qualify for home health but there's there's a waiting period to get in or maybe maybe you don't qualify for another reason because you're your the care that you expect to need isn't long-term enough. I just need care for a month. Well, you don't qualify for a whole month, but what do I do for a month? You know, there's a lot of gaps and holes. And so, this program uh if we're able to get that uh that um world transform healthcare grant, the thing I love about that model is it combines the social worker, the paramedic, and some mental health components. And I really want this to be like a no holds barred, no rules type environment where everybody can pull data from their siloed systems. the police department know the families they're coming in contact with, the people in crisis that we don't necessarily see because they don't have a medical component. >> Uh we see the people with the medical component that maybe the police department don't see. The mental health uh system has a completely different, you know, uh case load often. And so with members from those three resources uh that can access all of their data systems, you know, they're the type of this is the type of group that can show up on Monday morning and be like, "Hey, we had a crisis, you know, Sunday night at this person's house." Great. Let's go check on them. Let's just go right now. And that's that's the type of environment that I want. That's the type of flexibility that I want because I think that's what you need. >> Yep. December. >> Yeah. Chief, um, how does this program um, like integrate with like a an actual overdose, an active overdose matter? So, is this does this cover that situation? So, it [clears throat] it wouldn't initially, you know, somebody we get an call of somebody overdosing, probably wouldn't necessarily initially interact with that person other than to re to co-respond with the on duty crew. So the first thing we need to do is revive a person and uh make sure that they're medically stable. U but that's where uh what the the existing resources the police department has with uh drug counselors uh and this program can come into play because again tomorrow they may decide that they they're not ready for treatment but they can go knock on that person's door tomorrow and the day after and the day after till basically they're told never come back. uh you know they they'll have the freedom that to check on that uh and to continue to provide resources. In my experience has been uh that um there's a group of people that initially after resuscitation realize that they need emergency treatment. And there's a group that days afterwards recognize uh you know through conversations with family and loved ones and friends that they need treatment and just knowing that they can pick up the phone and we're going to show up no questions asked, you know, uh the system has the ability right now like when we implement it. Uh there's crisis stabilization. We can drive you right there. We don't have to worry about transportation. We're going to have a vehicle. We'll we'll just drive you right there. No questions asked. Uh so there's a lot of flexibility in it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Just for asking. That's great to hear because you know unfortunately a lot of stigma behind even assisting someone with the lock the lock zone and reviving them is what is going to happen if you know police department show up as well. What's going to be the the fallout from that? You know, I mean, again, as you noted, sometimes someone who's revived, that may be that next step in their recovery to say, okay, you know, this is, you know, I just faced death and I'm I'm back alive. Now I can take the steps to remain alive. You know, maybe that's the decision where it comes time to say, okay, I need to get into recovery. You know, I need to get into programs. I need to take an active um responsibility in my own in their own recovery. Um, but like how I guess my concern is somewhat I don't this may not be specific to this or if it is please let me know but is kind of how in these situations you know the no question to ask situation kind of affects individuals that are are in an active overdose situation like if the police show up as well you know how does that integrate into the no questions asked >> you know how does I mean you know does that invite in well here's here's a substance. Yes, we just revived you, but now we're going to go ahead and cite you for this. So, that's I'm kind of wondering how how that is is currently handled with with the police department like in partnership and is there anything you know that's that no questions asked kind of how does that work in that scenario? >> Yeah, so I don't have a complete answer for you uh but you know I can share experience the the police department our police department is very recovery focused. they have uh drug counselors on staff. It's hard for me to accept that they would hire a drug counselor only to you know to then uh you know provide information on that person's recovery to law enforcement for the purposes of of you know legal convictions and whatnot. Uh but I I don't know the inner workings of it. I do know that there are there's a law on the books that basically provides amnesty for anybody that calls to uh it during a drug overdose. Um and so that uh it provides protection so that the the person that's overdosing and those who call 911 aren't convicted. I think there's obviously guard rails on that and I don't know to the extent of that, but it's really focused on providing that care in the in the immediate moment and people not worrying about getting arrested as a result of that. >> It was just in the news St. Johnsbury had on one of the security cameras for their park, their common area. They watched somebody do CPR, I think in the middle of the night on a person for 15 minutes, never called 911. Wow. and then saw them like carry that person away and you have to just wonder like what happened there. I don't know. Uh but I I uh that's why I ask, >> you know, I feel like I'm not aware of a case like having responded on a lot of these where there's been maybe that person that was revived been arrested or whatnot. So it it' be a better question for for Chief Smith maybe. But uh I really see the police department as partnerships. I've seen a lot more um compassion than you than those who interact with the legal system might think that the police department offers in these types of situations and they've been phenomenal partners uh to this point. So, it's not a worry that I have, but I can understand if the public has some concern about it. Right. Well, thanks for answering that. Appreciate it. >> Thank you. Anyone else? Anyone Anything from here? No more >> ready for me to close the public hearing. Okay, I'll close it. It's 4:18 and we can take a vote on accepting this grant. If anybody wants to read the motion, >> I didn't bring my book. >> Oh, Taylor, do you want to do it? Paul, it's okay. >> MY GLASSES ARE YOU GET to read the motion. Do you see where it is? Um, it's on the bottom of the cover page. >> Yep. It says um great >> to accept and expend up to that part. >> I can see that. >> Yeah, you say I make a motion to accept and expend. I could have done it, but I'll >> I'll do it. My first official duty. >> Yes. Uh, I make a motion to accept and expend the $150,000 from the opioid abatement community grant program for the purposes of supporting the Littleton Fire Rescue's EMS operations and mobile integrated healthcare program. >> Great. And I'm looking for a second. >> A second. >> Taylor second. And um All right. Any more discussion? >> No. >> Okay. All in favor? >> I opposed. All right. 40. All right. Thank you, Chief. Thank you. >> All right. Next up, you're up. [laughter] All right. Next public hearing is um a FEMA grant for Mansill Culver at $1,455,820. And we'll open this one up at 420. And we've got Eric here. Go ahead. >> Um so, a little background story. You're submitting with your packages. Um at the last town meeting or voting I should say um it was uh voted in at 823 yes the 326 no that we put up our part of the grant which is 500,000 is our match 25%. It actually um is a little less than that. I think it number comes out to 485 27350 if I match. So um we threw uh town manager Brown myself and I believe Carrie you had a little bit of part in this as well keeping this alive. >> Oh great with FEMA. >> Oh right. >> So we had a we had a little bit of a uh there's a 1.0 0 uh grade that you need to meet to qualify for these these grant funds. Uh we originally met that we submitted our paperwork. We were the only qualifying program uh project that was submitted. Um after further review they changed the criteria on us move the goalpost. Uh so we uh kind of dug our heels in went back. uh did the necessary work and got them to re-evaluate our application again. So, it wasn't until July of this year, the 23rd, that they gave us the okay, and we're going to be able to move forward with the project accepting this grant money. Um like Carrie had mentioned, um 1,45,820. So, this will be uh a new box culver/bridge over Halmerbrook on Mansill. Uh it'll actually raise the elevation of the road uh additional foot. It'll meet 500 foot 500 foot um criteria and provide critical infrastructure for the town for the next 50 years at least. Thank you for your work on that. That's pretty exciting. >> Significant amount of money. >> It is. Um, so with that being said, I mean, it's pretty straightforward. I think it's exciting to get something this size in town. Uh, especially with seeing um, Cott Street coming to closure this year. Okay. Um, it'll be nice to have another another big project on the way that's going to be [clears throat] beneficial to the town. >> Well, thank you for all your hard work on these things. I know it's coming at you from left and right and center. >> Yeah, I apologize. I get I got caught up being so >> Oh, look across the street. >> Yeah. No, it's all good. Um, all right. Let's start with questions from us and I'll open it up to Taylor. All right. So, first of all, I saw uh concrete sidewalks on Cottage Street earlier today. So, that's definitely shown signs of nearing completion. >> The uh if if assuming this all goes forward and all that, when does when do you figure you'll be um setting to work on that type of thing? How much work do you have to do between now and then? >> Thank you. So with uh previous director of public works Doug Danco he had uh reached out to HB um I don't I don't have the entire backtory but we have completed the completed the H&H study on it. So >> when the governor's council awards this after this is accepted by the town, we can start immediately >> y >> moving forward with uh permitting >> under designs permitting. I just talked to Chris Warner this afternoon. That's a four to five month um time frame for review. >> Yeah, >> you got winter anyway. >> Yeah, I got winter. So it' be a ne it's going to be a 2027 project. Yes. So, uh we will be able to hit the ground running. Um the goal will be hopefully to have something out a bit next year and then construction. >> And and did I hear right that there's there is going to be some paving up on Mansil Road like soon higher up or is >> Yes. So, this year it's from Cardinal Lane. >> Yeah. Uh, I'll pass the air. >> Okay, >> I'll let Ed know. [laughter] >> Yeah, I saw you replaced all the culvers. Uh, a bunch of culvers got replaced on >> uh the guys have been busy this year. We had an aggressive schedule that we put forward and uh we lost uh our operations foreman in April. 26 years of experience with the town. So, myself and Keith Reinhardt have been working daily >> together to try to fill that void. >> But yeah, it's um >> with this uh we have >> Mil Street that's in the process as well. >> That's another big project that is coming along. >> Oh, okay. the bank stabilization. >> Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. I thought you meant actual like the street. Oh, yeah. Oh, good. I think on the >> Yeah, I would love update on that. What's What's going on with that? >> So, we are through uh preliminary design. They've accepted our mitigation and our restoration. >> Um now it's just moving forward with uh getting a plan together. >> Of actual design >> coming on. >> In your department especially. It's >> so you don't see that happening this year be next year. >> Yeah, that I was So this year we have obviously we have the work that's going on in the treatment plan. We have our paving um which is yearly which is uh changing out culverts and doing prep work, raising structures, fixing structures, cottage street. I was like, "Oh, after this year, I'm going to get a little bit of a break." This is coming along. We're still going to have the trip to plant and then we're going to have um the Mil Street stabilization project probably all happening in 2728. >> Wow. >> So, the next the next 2 to 3 years, >> let's not call it bank stabilization. People are going to start think we're bailing out banks. >> What can we call it? >> River. We can say river bank. >> There we go. That's better for the river in front. >> Is >> all right. >> I notic having to do with the college street. Is that going to get any narrower? It didn't look to me. >> What are we doing? Adjust the lines on the road or it doesn't look >> so where there was there was a wider breakdown lane on the right hand side. >> That's going to go away. >> That's going to as as you're heading south up the hill. >> Um that's going to go away and you're going to have a more normal breakdown lane. not so wide. So there is no actual parking that side of the street except for in front of Dr. Mitz's office. Those two spots are still there, but those will be the only two parking spots on that side of the road. The green space, the sidewalks have been widened, so they're actually 88 plant. And the green spaces go from anywhere from 4 ft to 7 ft. And that's where you had you where you had breakdown. Oh, so that's not been done yet. We're just doing the side >> where you see where you see the curving. >> that'll be the edge of the road and then it'll be a white line. >> I'd have to look. I'd say probably 36 in 40 in off from that. >> Not enough for a vehicle though, >> but wide enough for a bike. >> Yes. >> And the sidewalks are going to be wonderful. >> A lot. >> It looks better already. It's going to narrow it. It is going to narrow down. That's part of that project is to slow traffic as it comes. >> That's what the two uh what do you what you call those two at the top of the hill and the road? [laughter] >> Islands, I guess. >> But there's going to be the crosswalk and a light there. So, it brings people off the highway and makes gets them to slow down. Correct. >> And that's the part of the the uh speed reduction. >> Yeah. That needs to happen because they come off the interstate, they don't touch the brakes. >> Well, they start if you're coming like from a co-op or something. I sat at the end and went, "Holy crap." >> But with a light there, that's going to change everything. >> Well, >> I think yield doesn't mean slow down. Maybe when people come off the interstate. >> A lot of I've seen a lot of people, they don't even slow down. >> A lot of it's visual cues though. >> And having just naturally slows people down. And there's going to be a there's already a speed limit sign there. We'll throw one up there. I'm sure as you're coming off that exit. >> we could put one there that's up ahead. You're going to be dropping your speed. >> All right. Any more questions about this particular grant? Cuz I want to open it up to the public, too. >> I got one question. >> Cuz I'm the new guy. >> So total amount of this project is like roughly $2 million. So, as a general rule, what percentage of that is like planning and engineering versus getting the actual work done? >> It's a good question. >> Roundabout, not precise, just roundabout. >> 25%. >> Not as much as I thought. Good >> roughly. >> I mean, permitting is in there. That's part of your engineering. There's a cost that is associated with that. But um >> if you just real quickly if you wanted to do the math, you could say we're going to pay for the engineering and we're going to get a finished product. >> Oh. >> Oh yeah, that's a good way to think of it. That's a good question. New guy. >> Anyone December, Robert? >> So the odds are that next year construction anticipated to start next year and wrap up in 28? >> That would be the goal. It would all depend on the awarded contractor's schedule. >> Um, where we where we [clears throat] >> end up landing, where they could start, what amount of time there is. >> I'm sure it would probably be like Tottish Street and anything they can prep for. >> And do in the fall, they will. >> Yeah. So, realistically though, if everything goes well, probably 2028 completion. >> 2028. >> Okay. Yep. December. >> Just a comment. Um, so as I've come to realize more and more uh the extent of Littleton's infrastructure and how the immense it actually is, I've come to appreciate like what you do, Eric, and and and in your department, what they do to make sure the town is taken care of. So I and I I I I also recognize the fact that applying for a grant is not just a push of a button, and it takes a lot of a lot of leg work before anything really any of us really see anything happen. So looking at Lilton's resilience, looking ahead 50 years like you noted that's what we need to be doing is looking ahead 50 years 100 years um and making sure that little is resilient and our infrastructure is taken care of and plan for that. So, I just um wanted to extend an appreciation of of what you're doing. Um you know, Carrie her her role in that. Uh town manager Brown's just in making sure that you know the taxpayers, the residents, the tourists coming into town and that the roads are safe and you know when we get floods and things cuz things happen, you know that it's been planned for. So, I just wanted to extend that. I do appreciate all the effort you're putting into it and and I I said I've come to understand more and more of how extensive you know your jobs director and what your department really does and making sure that Littleton is is taken care of. So I just appreciate that. >> Yeah, thanks for that comment. >> If I can I just want to go. >> Yeah, go ahead. Uh it's it it is a vast network of uh collection system, the sewer system, roadways, uh sidewalks, and really we we do we try our best to make sure that we get everything completed. And it's not a bad thing to have citizens reach out and say, "Have you seen this? This is what I saw. Uh, this is what I see." It gives us a chance to address the things that either get overlooked, missed because something else came up and it it it swings you back to where you need to be. Um so with that I with that being said um thank you. It's a total team effort. Uh the support of the board board of selecting the support of the town manager other department heads um Chief Snoke Chief Miller and the citizens. And that's why we have an answering machine at the highway department. Uh that's why I have an email. I make myself available. Um, and come to work, try hard. [laughter] So, >> yeah, it shows. Thanks. Anything else? No. All right. We close the public hearing at 4:34. Um, there's two parts to this. I'll read the first. So, we have to read and complete a certificate of authority. I'll read this part and then we'll have somebody read the um actual motion. All right. So, I'm just going to read this out loud because I think it has to be done as part of the grant. I, Carrie Harrington, chairman of the board, Littleton to New Hampshire, hereby certify that Troy Brown, town manager, um, have authority to sign an entry into a grant agreement with the state of New Hampshire Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management on August 17th, 2026 for the town of Littleton and further hereby authorize Troy Brown to execute any and all contract and agreements related to the hazard mitigation grant program, HMGP. I further attest that Troy Brown was granted authority prior to the day the grant agreement was signed and has not been amended or appealed as of the day the contract was signed. And I'll be signing this as chairman of the board. Um I just want to read that to the record. Um I don't think I have to read the bottom. >> Nope. >> No, just that part. And then we have the actual motion which Taylor, do you want to read it? Is that part two under recommendations? Yeah, but this is more of a similar statement. >> It's kind of a past statement. I still think we have to take a vote, right, Vicki? Yes, >> I do believe. Okay. >> So, I think we take a a vote on the motion to accept this and then we read >> All right. So, you want to make the motion to accept it first? >> Yes, I'll make that motion. >> I'll second it. >> All right. Taylor motioned. Dave seconded. All in favor of accepting this grant and then he'll read this into the record. I >> Okay. Unanimous 40. And if you would read that, please. >> And then uh the select board in a majority vote has accepted the terms of the hazard mitigation grant program as presented in the amount of $1,455,820.50 for mitigating local infrastructure main road project. Furthermore, the board acknowledges that the total cost of this project will be $1,941,94 in which the town will be responsible for a 25% match, which comes to $485,273.50. >> Wow. Thank you. So, we're all set. We're voted in. All right. That will conclude our meeting. We do have another meeting um next week. So, August 24th, it'll be our public meeting at 5:00 p.m. We have a very full agenda. Um, so we will see everybody then. And Oh, yes. Go ahead. >> I just wanted to make a quick statement. >> Sure. >> I know we haven't done it yet, but we do have with Ed's not here, but with Ed Taylor coming on and I'm sorry. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Dave. Yeah. Uh I am working on we have uh the warranty work is being done on clarifier number one. >> Schedule for the 1st of September right after uh Labor Day. I am putting together with H2O and um Troy >> Y >> a tour of the treatment plant for selecting. We're hoping to do that first meeting in September. >> Okay. Maybe get down there around 3:00. >> Oh, just do it right prior to So it' be September >> 14th. Is that the fir? Yeah, September 14th. Okay. I would love to do that. >> I will have plans sure up. >> Relatively soon. And hopefully at the next meeting will announce that. >> Um I'm just going to write it down, put in Okay, great. I don't know >> how many of you have been to the treatment plant, but >> I actually don't think any of us have >> some big changes down there, especially this year. >> Linda and Roger had toured it and I was about to and then everything kind of and you were like, let's wait until Yeah. But um thank you. >> Yeah, we're we're we're in a a really stable phase right now and um we made some good progress. >> Great. Thank you for that. just begin. >> All right. If nothing else, I'll take a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> I'll make the motion to adjurnn. >> Okay. Paul second. >> Taylor seconds. All in favor? >> I I >> All right. Journed. Thank you all for coming. Thank you, Eric. Chief Keep. >> [music]