Sept. 6, 2022 Grantham School Board Meeting
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is excuse me just one thing this one around all right thank you for lasting all right oh sorry all right we're going to go ahead and get started we will call the meeting to order at 6 32 and um we are uh the board quorum of the board is meeting in person tonight um and we have one more board member who's going to be joining us in a few minutes so our first agenda item tonight is the approval of the agenda are there any changes or amendments or anything that we need to adjust on the agenda tonight the only thing i'm going to say is our school student school board liaison is not able to make it tonight so we will not have that agenda item but i did all right okay all right so we need a motion to approve the agenda as amended some there's a motion from denise second and a second from ed all those in favor please say aye aye and the opposed say nay okay so we'll move on to our first agenda item which is public participation um so we'll open the floor for public participation we have some folks joining us in person but i think they're here i know for a a later on agenda item um but if anybody has any public participation for right now please feel free just a reminder we do need your name and address stated at the beginning of your um remarks so that it can be on the record and if you are joining us virtually and you'd like to participate you can type into the chat um and again please give us your name and address so that those can be read at the beginning of your remarks so we'll have a few minutes here and we'll just leave it open i know sometimes folks need a little second to type so we'll leave our public participation open it looks like we have people there are six participants on so we know it's working and the chat is open all right you should know you're all welcome to say anything that you'd like to at this point we all think you're wonderful we're very proud of you all right i'll just leave it open for just a few more seconds here and then we'll move on don't see anything coming into you okay all right so we'll close public participation and we'll move on to the agenda the first item on the agenda is to recognize the grantham garden club um and so folks may have noticed either as they've been visiting the school for a drop-off or on their way in for meetings that our um front garden our star garden is in process of getting an incredible makeover um and i'm gonna let denise speak a little bit about how that project got started because she is actually the was the impetus for that project to begin and then we will express our gratitude for um all of your participation in that with us well thanks i i'm just so pleased to see the faces behind the work um uh the past several years being on the board i've walked by the star garden and um it's a beautiful space but it's been in disarray for quite some time and i have a personal connection with it because the artist in residence who designed it is a good friend of mine who is now in very poor health and unable to do any follow-up on some of his uh projects and so um as we often get that helpless feeling when somebody's health is failing i wanted to do something to help honor him and so um i approached sydney and the board and said you know can i repaint some of these sculptures and at least try to give them some life and of course once you stay it's like any house project where you start something and you look beyond and say i'm never gonna get through this and um the fun thing was is that sydney did an uplight of the painting and and we don't get to talk with each other much outside of the board meetings and she got so dirty and had so much fun and um and paint covered yeah and and it was a scary process because i wasn't sure if the paints were going to be right but i think in the long run it's okay i'm still looking for the trim though for the metallic and it's been a long process but um when i walked in tonight i just looked at what you folks have done and i just went oh i feel so good so thank you and it's just i feel like this is a community space our kids i think with your help especially is going to be easier to utilize that outdoor space because it really wasn't safe or inviting and um it just feels good to know that you know we we've got a great school system here and a great community and it's it's just nice to do something when you can so i'm grateful i've already seen some kids sitting on those stars yeah and i haven't seen that in a few years well before it was like trying to get to the stars you know that's so good sydney just got a text that the link on the gvs website is not working i used that link and opened and i that's how i got off i can fly right now yeah do you want to see if it's working sorry no no please i will say one of the really unexpected pieces of this project is that our playground project which is in progress but has been delayed um because that project is delayed i was worried that we weren't going to have something at the start of this year that was going to look different at the front of the building and unexpectedly through this project we now do and so i think for some people who are looking as they come into the building to see like what's happening with the playground project we haven't been able to make the progress that we've wanted to on that full project just because of you know supply and labor and all of those kinds of things being really challenging right now but the project that you all have helped us undertake out front has i think filled some of that gap to be able to have something visual to say like here's an improvement here's something that's happened and it's been a really great thing i think for some folks who have felt like were things going to look any different when they pulled in this year and they do i mean it's noticeable from when you're in like the when all of us parents line up to drop off and pick up when you're in that line you're looking at the front of the building and that the big red star is so noticeable now and you almost couldn't even see it in amongst all the plants that were overtaking it so i think that's been a really nice um aspect and unexpected benefit i think sydney has a couple other things to share and i do and we did just check the link it's working kristin went on to the main webpage to get in but if somebody wants to maybe email or something we can see if there's no some way we can help them yep okay um i just wanted to say how grateful i am and all the conversations that we've had about the garden and um the very first thing that i admitted is that i should not touch any plants because then you'd have to really start from scratch but i'm just so incredibly grateful because as you know we've had staffing issues and that's been one of our biggest big problems over the last few years and just the fact that um this could be off of mr compost plate and his crew and we could focus on everything that we needed to do inside for the kids which is always our focus like i just hope you know how much it it means to us it really means a lot to us um and we do have some gifts for you and i'm really excited about them so when sydney's i'm going to out you and she said to me we're going to give them something but i don't think we should give them plans which is our normal usually we give people plans so these are you know a part of our garden and all of our project outside of sustainability so we have these together we make a difference but there are and i know that some of the members couldn't make it tonight so maybe you could take them absolutely um but i'm really excited about the pens because i couldn't believe i found these so if you open it up you have a pen in there that has a really great saying such as keep going keep growing with the little leaf clip but this is not an eraser there are seeds in there so there are a couple of seeds on the top for you to plan i mean i think you really can find anything on the internet do we know what kind i bet you do do you have any samples of benadryl that you can also answer yes yeah yeah so um denise also got the children's benadryl from the nurse's office and the wasps got her in that garden as well you want me to give actually here i'll put extras over here someplace just so i can make sure that you take it just just so that you all know that this really has been a labor of love and the barney club members when we posted it on our website that we needed help people just signed up jumped in these two folks came twice on both days to kitchen they were particularly hot days that we were out there working we couldn't do anything about that everyone toby um dr leggett um kristen the whole i have been very friendly and welcoming denise um nancy's part of the garden club and um it was just it was a pleasure to be able to come and do this this is not done because that batch is already coming back so this is something that's going to have to be maintained and i've already got contact with the president of the parents group and we're hoping we can develop some sort of partnership and alliance so that we can do a spring and fall clean up with the help of the guidance from the garden club members and make this truly uh um you know embrace it from all aspects of keeping that maintained long-term plan thank you i was hoping while you're here you could talk a little bit about your daffodil um fundraiser that's going on oh absolutely um thank you um yes we are selling the grandpa garden club is selling um daffodils and they are naturalizing they're deer resistant which is so nice and we want to have color throughout grantham um this is open to the public it's not just garden club members we want everyone um participating and uplifting their souls when spring comes around and the snow is melting and the yellow is popping up um and we are asking for people if they don't want to plant and or don't have property to plant daffodils that they become a garden angel and make an order and donate towards purchase of daffodils that will be utilized here at the school and other locations um in grantham so a dollar a ball and i don't know the deadline date but it's this month that's not too far away and people just need to go to granthamgardenclub.org and right on the home page we've made it right there the flyer with the details about the daffodils and people want to know details about what the depth of the world we have selected as well as the order form and so people will need to fill that out write out a check and mail it into the garden club so we're hoping we get a lot of community support for that so your deadline is monday september 26th and i will put that in my family newsletter and i'll put it in my superintendent newsletter as well i want to bring your attention to the insert this is spectacular the fsc is the forestry sustainability council it's international they approve anything which is completely sustainable and my daughter is the science director [Laughter] i knew it was sustainable but i didn't know the connection with your daughter that's perfect it's fantastic and thank you yes thank you very much thank you you're going to continue to see us out there and we still owe you a um removal of one of the bushes out there which hasn't happened yet yeah we're waiting still waiting for our excavator and if i can just say not only of adults notice but i've heard a couple kids make mention how good it looks so [Music] nice thank you but emphasizing texture and snow so that the kids have different kinds of experiences as they walk through the garden we hope that the decision on plants will allow us to do that great well we have a lot of plants coming and it's a question of who we're going to put them and how many racks could people use because it's been amazing the outpouring of donated plants someone will go in now over the next month and some will go in the spring and kathy martin kindergarten teacher was able to get some donations from her employer that she worked for this summer so like 30 plants close to 30 minutes yeah that's fantastic so we're very grateful and garden club members will have lots of plants i'm sure that they'll bring one once once you've figured out what's going to be going in there so yeah it's exciting right thank you thank you thank you thank you very very much i know i know that you were hoping for a picture do you want to do a picture on this rainy night or do you want to save it for another time where maybe the whole group is together oh that's a good idea you wouldn't do that on a sunny day where all the volunteers are there right but we can do it now if you prefer it's not as nice right now okay thank you all and i will say you are absolutely welcome to stick around and listen to the rest of our work but we also are not offended if you just get up and sort of slide right towards the door we are used to folks coming at the beginning of our agenda being recognized and then making them making their exit so thank you all very very much thank you all right our next agenda item is the food service transfer and the board has a memo for this in our board packet so the request is to transfer sixteen thousand three hundred ninety five dollars and fifty five cents for food services during the 2021-22 school year yeah this uh we usually this is about um it's seven thousand one hundred and four dollars and forty five cents less than the originally budgeted twenty three thousand five hundred and as you know the last couple of years we have been this much over and this much under we really have had a roller coaster with food services over the last few years which of course is understandable but um this year we just happened to be under any questions about this or life saving money okay so we need a motion to approve the food services transfer for the 21 22 school year so moved i found a motion from leslie and a second second from ed all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed say nay okay excellent all right our next agenda item we also have in our board packet and this is the additional work parking lot and we have discussion and action on this item right so you have the actual proposal in front of you which is a total of eleven thousand dollars which comes to um pre-grant support because we're working on part of this is grants um design documentation which would be seven thousand two hundred and fifty dollars and permitting which would be two thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars and i just i'm gonna share my screen so that you can all see some of the concerns that have come up and a couple of options of how the board would like to move forward so if we have okay so essentially well we have our thank you to the garden club so this is an additional proposal which is the court slope and parking area so a brief summary of the concern is that we removed the basketball court from the larger project of the gbs grounds renovation and playground project due to costs we were trying to make sure that we cut down those costs and we decided that we would work on grant writing to resurface the basketball court what happened was the initial survey work shows that the court pitch and foundation is off by up to about a foot i would say yes in some areas particularly the back right corner when you're looking from the schoolyard so when mr campo and i were out looking around the first day after we realized this you can actually very clearly see the fencing hit the asphalt all the way around until you get to the corner and you can just see like the huge gap um happening right there so there really is no sense in resurfacing a court that has a poor foundation it's just going to be throwing away money in addition there have been many years of concern over the parking lot and runoff from that same far corner due to the slope failure and the lack of drainage and the drainage design of that plate at that you know confluence of where everything is running off from that port pitch and this has actually come up in several years of our joint last management committee meetings because of concerns of slip and fall because it just turns to ice so a couple of um pictures is if you see here on the left um if you're looking at the schools on the left obviously and then you're going to be looking at the court and you can just see in this area right here in the corner of the court that's where the failure is happening this slope is coming down so that's where the pitch is off and then if you see you it's easier to see in the picture on the right where all of the sand is collecting and everything that in the winter is all ice and that just shows where there's no drainage and you know improper runoff which is you know hard when it comes to sand and water in you know this time of year but really awful when it comes to snow and ice the rest of the year and you can actually see mr campbell right there taking the picture for us but that that sand was swept up this brain so that's all the basketball court from the summer that's there now and it was a dry summer too so um so a couple of options for your consideration with this proposal because remember this is just the proposal to look at the design and engineering and survey work so um we can hold off for now on the survey and design and make the court slash parking lot a phase three of the project for a future year you know the pavilion is phase one the main part of the project is phase two we could just push off the court in the parking lot and make that phase three another option is to incorporate this work into the larger main gvs grounds and playground project and ensure a separate funding source for this work we want to make sure that we do that legally because given the bond we can't just suddenly throw in parking lot work you know we have to be really careful that even if we do the work at the same time that this has a different funding source you know from the community some of the pros of this is that there's efficiency of scale because like the equipment and the contractor would already be on site so you could think of you're just getting it done while you're ripping everything else up basically and then a third option would be you could approve this work this proposal in front of you for the site survey and design engineering wait to see where the bids come in for the main project and then decide from there so you could just kind of see you know have this part of the work done and then decide at a later date if you want to pursue this as part of a bigger project or hold off for another year so if option three is there that would also imply that we would have to hire again the same people who will already be here if we chose phase two he said correct no you could just i assume it would be over our bid it would definitely be over ten thousand dollars so you would you could just if it's a phase three you could just put it out to bid again at whatever point you decide to do it [Music] so regardless of what option we take we have we have to at least do the design documentation before anything goes out to bid anyways regardless right you do yes but you also don't have to do that now we can proceed with the rest of the main project and we would just basically ignore the court in the parking lot area for now i think it's worth the 11 000 to no always get the docks in place even if we don't do it even if we do it as a sort of phase three if we can get the docks in place and have a sense of what we're looking at um because that's the other piece it's going to be tough to fundraise and break branch when you don't have an idea of what exactly you're working for so yeah would think the proposal you i mean you may hold off on the permanent the 2750 for the permit um until you know obviously you're a go but the first two the grant support and the design docs i'm not sure i see any reason why just pull back on doing those now let's get the information it could also another benefit of doing that would be you could see where the budget development takes us for fy 24 this year you know and it could be something that you decide to put in the budget for next year depending on how much we think it will be does this group talk about what they're planning what their thoughts on how to correct it would it be a retaining wall built or well there's we have the option because the basketball court's in pretty bad shape it's actually splitting because it's sinking right so if that was dug up uh the ultimate kind would be would be to slide it over a little bit leave room to possibly put some drainage or drainage contours before the drive then we could the driveway does need to be re-pitched too because that's that's a settling point where you see the sand so the driveway has to be dealt with but at least if we move the core the land workage could help also so i would think we probably and i know the fc group has done all the work for the playground stuff mm-hmm i think you'd probably be helpful to have for them to have that information you know yeah it's part of that to make sure we don't start encroaching too much on whatever we especially have we talked about moving it five ten feet yeah not much just because right now there's i mean that's why we have to have a steep cliff because it's right up right up right if you could move it over right 10 feet or so then you have room to make some drainage or something so that would help a lot and we're lucky we do have wiggle room it's not not too much of a big deal just to move it over yeah basically went over to a field and part of this part of what they talked about in the in this um proposal is looking at i think was looking at yeah so looking at some of the with some of that the permitting that ed was mentioning would that change anything related to i know that that gets us that's one of the close points for some of that the like watershed or the the shoreline yeah with us that's the closest where we are so for example if it would it would drastically affect permitting because that's the closest point to the river and what you would have to do is basically they talked about making it an added alternative if you added it to the bid so if if at some point you look at the design that comes back and the bids come in and you decide that you want to throw it on you could say to the contractor you know we want to do this but then it would have a significant addition of altered terrain for that permit so you would want to start the process early because right now we're still hearing that permits are taking at least six months to come through this would be a separate sherwin shoreline per permit from our playground if it goes as part of our project it would be like an amendment to our permit so we would still have to let them know but it would still according to our horizons it would be part of our original aot and shoreline sure if we did at the same time if we did it at the same time and if we didn't we'd have to just go beyond that permit yeah that's not a decision we need to make any time in the very near future right no because you would probably want to see you know what their plan would be first what their recommendations would be first and so and they would do this in within the scope of what they're already planning for the playground project so that would be like they already have that information of like if we think about those three options you gave us and it like what and what echoing what ed was saying they would have kind of that if we went with a third one they would have that base knowledge where if like if we just went with the first one we just put it off entirely we could be talking to somebody who is somebody entirely different right now yeah it seems like that third actually makes the most sense today we run into issues here since this is over ten thousand dollars um no because you've already selected se group you know that already did go out to bed so i wouldn't see any reason why this would have to be an additional bid this would be an add-on to what you've already put out there could we approve just the pre-grant of the design docs first and then add the permitting as a change order right around the process yes i think i'd be in favor of just approving 8250 8250 the first to start with and then we'll add on we could add on the permanent work once we have a direction of what which way we're going to go any other thoughts on that all right so it sounds like there's support for the third option limiting it to the pre-grant support and the design documentation okay so we would need a motion to approve the additional work on the parking lot for the pre-grant support and design documentation with sc group second i have a motion from ed and a second from leslie all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed say nay all right our next agenda item uh before we go office on your on your diagram that you have um i wanted to show you that one of the decisions that is going to be coming up is trees so um so uh emily owens who's our clerk the works and project manager and toby combo facilities director went through and marked existing trees that have not uh succumbed to the emerald ash borer and then recommendations for newer replacement trees and that's the document that you're looking at some of the questions um that we wanted to bring to the board and for tonight and for kind of the future because we don't have to decide absolutely everything right now but if you have an opinion about the tree lining the fence if you would want to voice that opinion right now that would be great we're trying to actually pull the trees away from the building for homeland security issues we don't know um what your feelings are about having sort of the tree lining the fence or having it open how does that tie in with homeland security and events well we thought a little bit about that and um you know somebody can jump that fence um like the idea with a tree next to the building is somebody can climb a tree and get into the building or get on the roof right somebody could i mean the fence isn't that high so somebody wouldn't need a tree to access you know get over that fence um it would be more of a visibility concern so if we chose trees that actually were you know taller and you know we still have visibility around the fence would you want that kind of tree line or would you prefer that it actually just stays completely open and you know i don't know if toby or kristen would like to offer their opinions at all so in terms of children playing outside i really like the idea of having trees so that they have shade and yeah they can get out of the hot sun any maintenance issues with it being next to the fence and he's falling in the fall and all that fun the leaves and such i mean those aren't a big deal um i would relocate them maybe a foot further in those trees that leave on that map i haven't seen that a little bit but i think those are all where the existing trees are now the orange ones are the existing ones the green ones on the perimeter other than the one we're about where the dugout is that was added in but i think most of these accounted for what we had out there the ones that are dying now yeah so i don't think that was going to be a huge change anyway just like i would try to relocate them in a little further so we could maintain the lawn around a little bit and no room concerns with that being that close to the asphalt with coming into that stuff they're probably 10 12 feet away from the asphalt so i think we're very safe there how many trees are we moving losing at this point to disease a lot basically that whole drive around they're all if they're not dead they're they're starting it's really sad and that's a risk too yeah yeah well that yeah that's why i would try and definitely get away from that type of tree also um i threw on here sugar maples just as a suggestion but i know some of the teachers are talking about doing maple sugaring projects and stuff so just kind of through that out and then the color of the leaves and the fall so yeah i'm no tree person you guys figure it out should i ask the garden club exactly we've asked them they're helping us figure out the grasses for the hill i think trees having trees out there is great i mean i think they're like a touch point for kids to go to like even if they're not gonna like do something at the tree it's a like thing to go and play near um and just being on different playgrounds the ones with trees are just much more inviting and having that shade is really important oh and if you're spending all this time creating a an interactive play area why wouldn't you want to have a lot of trees and just it seems so vital to the design and just all right any other nancy or leslie ed thumbs up yeah okay our next agenda item is the um jpgr public relations and a discussion of that and we don't have um i don't think there's something in our you know that was just a last year uh the board contracted with john gilfoyle public relations and they came in really handy we had a lot of really big things last year we had the playground we had school nurse of the year we had blue ribbon school it was a very big year um and i'm just thinking i was just looking at our budget which in my report you saw is pretty tight do some due to some unanticipated costs that have already come up so i am recommending that we do not continue our contract with them this year but of course it's your decision if you'd like to keep them going i support no all right you don't need to vote or anything all right so our next agenda item is um updates on covet and coveted policies um this is coming back to us for uh particularly for us to look at some of the um items in our covid addendum for uh parents families and staff uh with the changes from the cdc so i just put i tried to simplify things by just putting um a slide together of the coded strategy the current gds protocol in our code addendum and what the change in the cbc guidance is because they didn't change everything they just changed some key things so um there's a change in return to school testing after somebody is covered positive so what's currently in our protocol is that parents guardians may use an fda approved homeschool or provider test to return after day five if negative students must remain masked through day 10 when they return the change in the cdc guidance is that there is no test required to return to school after day five if students are 24 hours fever-free with improving symptoms but everybody must remain masked through day 10. so that's one change in terms of quarantine the current gvs protocol which was the new hampshire protocol was household contacts who are unvaccinated or not up to date must quarantine for five days um the change in the cdc guidance is that household contacts do not have to quarantine but anybody who's exposed so a household contact must wear a mask for 10 days after exposure it does say anybody who's exposed must wear a mask and they don't have to quarantine the reason we focused on household household contacts is because that was the only difference compared to the new hampshire dhhs guidance in cdc in this area as in terms of surveillance testing uh gvs offers bi-weekly surveillance testing as an opt-in program the change in the cdc guidance is that they no longer recommend surveillance testing except at times of an outbreak or a pending situation of risk so they would say if you have an outbreak you could do surveillance testing or if for example you've got like a big you know prom coming up or something like that they might recommend surveillance testing the lab that we work with does not offer that kind of ad hoc testing it's either we do it on a regular rotation or we don't do it at all or we would have to do the surveillance testing on our own on an ad hoc basis if we decided to do it that way and then masking is the current gvs protocol discusses or states that where's masking when returning after isolation through day 10 voluntary masking and when asked for specific people in situations and then the change in the cdc guidance is masking when returning from isolation after day five that's coming back after positive and for a full 10 days when exposed regardless of vaccination status or prior infection date there are a couple of other changes in the cdc guidance for schools but they don't apply to us you know there's like a test to stay guidance but we are not a test to stay state there's only 11 states that follow that um and then there's one more that doesn't apply to us so i don't remember what it is so these are the big ones and so the board will need to decide if you want to change to update our guidance and our protocols to follow the new cdc guidance i will say from um progress monitoring there was similar support to i think what the board conversation was around surveillance testing it was the you know since our the since the company that we use doesn't offer kind of that like ad hoc to like bring them in if there was an outbreak or a situation of risk um and since it's not a cost to us and it's an opt-in program for families there didn't really seem to be a downside to doing that as long as we have the resources and the availability of you know both karen's support for her time and what she's able to do um and the the company that can do it with us so there was support for keeping the surveillance testing in place as we've had it who who picks up the tab for this villain system still for another year regardless of what the cdc seasons yeah cdc says couple of weeks on cdc and i can't believe how many things i was looking at saying in the process of updating or it was just so uh you couldn't get all the answers that you wanted for the information and um it was frustrating for the first time since covid began the new hampshire dhhs guidance is the cdc guidance yeah it's just a link yeah it's just a straight link to the cdc guidance so there is something nice about that that we're not juggling two different you know protocols you know between state and federal so yeah and i would agree i mean i don't see any reason why we can get rid of the surveillance testing especially costing us a dime and it's opt-in in terms of um return to school testing there there didn't seem to be uh um like there wasn't a strong support from uh the progress monitoring to to not have the return to school testing our conversation was more focused on that initial testing just that change that that we had made at the last meeting um and so there wasn't like a strong um you know feeling that we need to eliminate the day five or after test um i don't know folks have other thoughts on that one or questions about if we take kind of each one of these one by one i will say there was still support for um i think a pretty common you know they're seen in from the providers that are on the progress monitoring committee that folks are still there are still a number of positives happening you know people are testing positive day 5 day 67 that is still very common and so eliminating that testing you are there is an increased risk of um you know someone coming back into school who is still has that higher level of viral load um where they are still testing positive because that's what those you know those tests are are looking for that kind of active viral load in people's nasal passages like you said i didn't see anything in the progress monitoring committee notes about the test return question i kind of wish karen was here look at attendees but because i feel like we really pushed the envelope last month which i'm okay with but this is like another pretty big push and i'm struggling because i just you know so much of society is moving quickly kind of trying to put a lot behind them and it's just the tension we were talking about last month too being thoughtful protecting as many people as possible and also like psychologically our society wants to be moving as quickly forward as possible so i don't i sort of feel like i like the day five testing but it also feels a little arbitrary given its guidance now so well stuck on that one i will say just before we and we can go back to kind of taking each one um i meant to say this before but i i will say my my feeling on it at this point because we're on day four was today day four of school we just finished day four um i keep in mind that idea of like peeling back those layers a little bit at a time and i think we we appealed one or two back um you know at our last meeting and then had the opening of school i know today was the first um you know email that went out to families that there are two you know there were two positive cases with students today and so this is sort of our first like we're this is our first testing the waters of walking into those waters of what does it look like to have some of those strategies that we had in place not there anymore um and so i i think i am at this point and i'm interested to see where the conversation with the whole board goes i would lean more towards leaving our current protocols in place knowing that we peeled back a couple of those layers before and we're only on day four seeing where we are you know just as we have each month kind of seeing what it looks like and then you know reevaluating in october november whatever the case may be but i think the tricky thing is if we pull back a lot of those layers we don't know which ones to put back as those because that's one of the things in the in the cdc guidance is very heavy on go ahead and layer things back in when you if cases get high if there's outbreaks if your community levels high put but i was thinking like how do you know which one to put back in like is it the surveillance testing is it the requiring more masking is you know like what are those pieces that come back in and that would require a a lot of either the board to make a lot of very what we tried to avoid last year of that kind of like if then so like if the level goes high here that means that the superintendent decides to do xyz or it means a lot of like emergency meetings for the board like layering those strategies back in i think is something that's very easy for the cdc to suggest and very difficult to actually do on the ground um and so for me since we know that we've peeled back some of those layers to start the year and we're only a few days into the year leaving those current protocols in place and then reevaluating as we go knowing that we have some flexibility where we can pull some things back if it seems like we're able to um is where i'm coming at from for all of these i think um yeah kristin i'm curious in your like um hierarchy of needs triage i'm not sure what a phrase i want to use i'm just thinking back to last year and a lot of times one of the bigger concerns i guess was staffing and so when i'm sitting here thinking about one of my big takeaways from looking at the cdc website was like you know we're in a phase of the pandemic where risk of hospitalization and death is dramatically lower than it ever was before we have a lot of data now about kids getting covered and you know it's we know we know a lot now that we didn't even know a year ago and so i get what i'm asking is like do you what are when you think of like again hierarchy of needs or hierarchy of concerns maybe just illuminate like the top three when you think about pulling back layers or probably i'm sure that some of the tension in your own mind of keeping everyone safe and well but you know also like the tactical parts of what we're thinking about yeah no i you know obviously we want everyone to be healthy right um but absences for staff and students are both super difficult you know for staff you can't run a building without the staff here but for students it adds a whole other layer of um you know even if they're healthy enough right we have to provide them their education we have to catch them up we have to provide homework we have so absences on either level are are huge but i wouldn't sacrifice people's health just to have more people in the building i think about all the time we spent last month getting to this point and like we just said it's only four days in and um i feel comfortable with what we had discussed um i know i trust karen islander totally i know we all want to put this behind us but i feel like let's give this some time to be put in place in evaluations i think this is a more responsible way of dealing with what could potentially happen and i get it i want to move on too but i i look at the changes in the cdc and i'm personally not comfortable with some of them i i do want to chime in just to say that there's one that we're going to have to follow legally which is we will not be able to have students quarantine yeah i was just looking at that one so that one's that one shouldn't be on the table for yeah for discussion is that we won't be able to tell students that they can't come to school i was just thinking about that can we do we have the latitude to follow the cdc guidance and say mask for 10 days what's the i will say what's the logistics and reality of that you can do the masking through day 10 there's no problem that for anybody who's coming back after being positive or anybody who is exposed right and then the other thing that you would really need to and then it sounds like we want to continue with surveillance testing because nobody's forced to do it you know it's just an opt-in so you'd really have to decide if you would still like to have a return to school test after being positive so that's really that's really what you would change any other thoughts on i struggle this somewhat because what we've been saying for the last two years is we've been relying on cdc guidelines to sort of shape our our policies here and you know the arguments were you know follow the cdc you know all the stuff and now when they do make a change now we're saying well maybe we don't want to um that that's i think that's the piece i struggle with most is either all the guidance or don't um but i'm not i think i would be more in favor of just moving to the cdc guidance i mean we're really only talking that top one um but i'm not i think one of the things that i struggle with and and i mentioned it before is i i feel like the cdc guidance relies really heavily on this idea of like but go ahead and change any of this when your levels get too high and that's really difficult and that's and that was something that we struggled with last year because we said like what is that does that mean like if our levels are high for a day does that mean we go to test to return if the level does it have to be we have high levels for two weeks what happens if we have a high level for a week and then it goes back down again does test a return go away and so i feel like the cdc guidance really relied on that like we're giving you the guidance but you should always like you should always flex these things in response to what's happening in your community and the reality of being able to do that and implement that is real that's that's where i run into trouble with that particularly with the return to school testing um because we have to that requires us to set up this whole matrix and that whole flowchart of if it's if there's x number of cases in one classroom does that mean we go to return to school testing or does that classroom now have to mask does the whole school met you know like we get into i feel like that was the one place in the cd cdc guidance that i felt like it wasn't as much follow the science as it was um and if we do follow the science it's saying when things are at a high level put some of these measures back in place and and practically how how do you do that do you have any idea what the science is behind why the cdc made that change in the first one you mean for the return yeah and they they cited specifically the stream that's out right now um i think that was the reason why the specific strain that's out right now you mean the variance yeah that it's after five days tensed people tend not to test positive as frequently if they are if they are improving symptoms oh yeah yeah you know and yes i don't know what the harm is in testing but if i'm hearing it right essentially for the bottom three quarantines balanced well savannah says one more keyboard but quarantine the masking we would move to the cdc guidelines yeah quarantine we have to we have to then math i'm masking it's pretty much essentially what we're doing yeah yeah so with the testing on day five parents can ask karen to do that still right because one thing i'm thinking about is even from my perspective it's you can still get to the store and get a test usually but it is increasingly harder it used to be just signed up and got some free ones sent to your house it's not that hard but you know equity and money and access and things like that i certainly do think about but since karen is still willing to do maybe day five testing that makes me feel a little less concerned about it i don't know i'm also struggling just from a health perspective i know that basically like we do need we need like germs to circulate through us like it's part of why we're where we are now with covid meaning like so many people have had it especially in the last 12 months it gets us to like a technically a better place with public health where we have to worry less about it so that's just one thing that's in my mind but i very much respect you know so i the principle of the thing here is like it's still a virulent thing that happens in our communities and so if we have lots of kids out or lots of staff out that is a real challenge other thoughts i feel like i have a clear like we're just saying i have a clear sense for that we'll adopt the cdc guidance for quarantine we'll keep our surveillance testing the masking is pretty much in line with what we're doing whatever i don't have as much of a sense of where we're leaning on the return to school testing i still support day five testing our protocol yep that's how i'm feeling as well okay yeah i would i'd be fine with that as long as maybe in october we revisit it when we have 30 days a day and see what's going on with it yep we can do that okay so we need a motion to adopt the cdc guidance in terms of quarantine that's all we need right because our surveillance testing is saying as is and the masking is covered i'm asking this kind of okay okay so we need a motion to adopt the cdc guidance regarding quarantine and update the covet addendum exactly if a motion from leslie in a second from nancy all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed to say nay okay all right our next agenda item is community budget form so typically in october we hold a um we kick off our budget season with a budget forum for that's open to the community and we just talk through the budgeting process what it looks like for the year um this generated feels like lifetimes ago now this was um we did we were we held it in october to kind of kick off the budget season and also um because we do want to recognize and uh value the input of folks who are living here in grantham seasonally and we know that a lot of folks leave around that time of year for warmer destinations and so giving those folks a chance to engage in that process and see kind of the budget season kickoff and it's also a chance for us to kind of highlight some of what we anticipate will be the major themes or things coming up through the budget um we've done it on zoom only right the last two three several years um and so we can decide do we want to we should decide tonight do we want to have a community budget forum and what kind of venue do we want to hold that in and when you don't have a kill i think it's a good kickoff um you know to to talk through the budget process and be kind of transparent about that for folks it's not something that usually we do outside of a board meeting it's another night it's not something that we need to have like we don't have a quorum of the board there um you know there's not usually sydney just i usually go through what goes into a budget development process you know q a about the budget some big things that might be coming up that year and you know anything else that anybody would like to know about what happens in a school budget last year it was just the three of us was amazing and um we did it soon yeah and like literally just the three of us wasn't it yeah yeah nobody i forgot that's what i nobody thinking about it was a short meeting i do know that um this year there's been a lot of discussion about the um reassessment so you know there could be heightened interest this year about you know how all the what is that how all the percentages and the rates work and how everything shakes out in the end i was just going to ask are we going to have the grantham rates by october we should um our doe 25 is finished okay so that's already ready to go to the town it's already been submitted to dra meredith did a phenomenal job um so if we we can get that to the town and then it's just the town will usually be ready in october so if we're finished or if we plan something i would say by the end of october we should be good i think you'd i think you'd be better off waiting yeah for that new rate to come out because people were somewhat confused on how reassessment works so the check your rate might be exactly the same right even if your home yeah no one drastically increases everyone forgets about the actual tax rate they just see their assessed value right apply what the current rate is so yeah um i think having that information attempt or a lot of yeah you know sidetrack discussions now i should i should check with melissa white about when they think they'll do the tax rate setting because i know that we're in a 30-day period where people can challenge their reassessment right so i don't know if that actually i don't know if that actually puts off when they do the time any reason we can hold this if we're going to like zoom any reason we can do it november usually because we have our first our first november board meeting is our first budget that's when we start here like we usually try to do it before the november meeting so that we can like outline what the whole project process looks like and then the first november board meeting is our first budget yeah yeah but we could hold off scheduling it we could find out for melissa no but you know i don't know what you think about zoom versus you know we try to help hold it at eastman i don't know where your thoughts are on that i like the convenience of think at new zealand yeah and that way people that have already escaped the gone to warmer pastures and uh it was chilly one morning last week it sure was yeah it's pretty cool usually this morning all right so let's um we will plan to hold one in october and we'll decide the date in at our october meeting okay and okay um our next agenda item is the school board associate association delegate assembly um so the assembly is uh saturday october 1st so our first thing is to decide is someone available and interested or willing to go to the new hampshire school board association delegate assembly that decides how much more we have to talk about if no one can go then we don't have to talk about it anymore but if someone is able and willing and interested in going i'm interested but unable one of the easier as well me too i am interested but i am also unable this year i went last year i could have some more things thrown on my plate october 1st yeah it's a saturday it's i think it starts at 11. i don't know what happens at those meetings so what happens is it's a delegate from every um every school board in the state is invited to attend you have one delegate who is a voting you know if you are the one delegate from your board you are there as a voting member the proposed resolutions that school boards have brought forward to this association are presented before the whole delegate assembly and they're voted on they're discussed and voted on every school board if you're sending a delegate is supposed to have reviewed those resolutions ahead of time and decided as a board how they are sending their delegate to vote so you don't have to decide like on your own that day if we if if you decided to go we would as a board look at all of the resolutions and tell you on our behalf please vote yes for this one no for this one don't vote at all for that one um and then there's also like a business portion of the meeting where they talk about you know those reports from the officers um sometimes last year they didn't but um sometimes they do a presentation from a school board the school board of the year whatever like the school board that one school board of the year will give a presentation and then sometimes they'll do one from like another district that's done some kind of like outstanding program or event um but and it's it's not required that we go they have to have a certain number of boards in attendance um but sometimes we go sometimes we don't there's no question exactly i feel like i'm still getting my heat no problem yeah yeah i know no problem so um we will not have somebody go this year which is totally fine um after so and in our email you should have an email from the school board association that has the resolutions that have been brought forward this year if you're interested in looking at them they're very interesting this year i will say um and what those do those resolutions are those are the guiding um resolutions for the school board association for their legislative work for their advocacy so those are the positions that the boards have told the association take these positions on our behalf when you are doing your legislative advocacy work so um you know you'll heal in the list of ones that are being proposed there's everything from like you know yes we think this should move forward to no we don't because this is already addressed in a resolution that we already have or in 14 resolutions we already have um you know this is or this is in conflict with another resolution that we have or this is not something that should come up as a resolution but we're going to address it um so like that's how the student school board scholar the student school board member scholarship came to be a school board put that forward as a resolution the association said this isn't a resolution but we want to do this if the body would like us to everybody voted and said yes please do it now there's a scholarship so that's and they'll send out you know what happened at the meeting afterwards all right excellent um all right so our next agenda item is policies and we have um our investment policy which is dfa and then we have the public participation at board meetings which is b-e-d-h so we'll take um policy dfa which is the investment policy first the reason this one is in front of you tonight is because it's a legal requirement that you review and reaffirm it annually there are no changes to the policy any questions about that one so we need a motion to approve policy dfa okay so emotion from leslie in a second from denise all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed say nay all right and then policy b-e-d-h this is um in accordance with a new law and um this is uh regarding public participation of board meetings so there are a lot of different ways that you could consider doing this but i put forward suggestions in golden italics of what i thought would work for the grantham board meetings so there's a new legal requirement that there is offered a minimum of 30 minutes of public input we usually don't have 30 minutes of public input so we don't want to have just a 30 minute period where everybody's sitting here so basically the way that i put it in would be that you can always extend it from 30 minutes longer which you've done in the past when we do have a lot of public input so it can always be longer if for some reason we don't have enough speakers at the beginning of the meeting to exhaust the full 30 minutes the board will provide the opportunity at the end of the meeting prior to any non-public session for a second session of public comment of no less than the balance of 30 minutes so you know 10 minutes at the beginning then there's nobody there we say we'll open it up for another 20 minutes if we fill those 20 minutes that's fine if there's only five minutes of speaking there then we've met that requirement so when the second session is complete or there are no more speakers the public session requirement is met and the only other change in there is that um there is a new law that nobody can speak about any individual board member employee with the exception of the superintendent i am the only employee of the school board so that's the only exception where somebody can you know speak to the board about the superintendent excellence [Music] in item number four yes um there's the clause the board will not hear personal complaints of any i think it means any sort against an individual board member just individuals a couple times okay so in public session the board will not hear personal complaints of any sort against an individual you get it yeah yeah it's individuals or maybe it's or of any individual against an individual so it should be sort instead of individual yeah that's what i thought maybe of any sort against an individual board member okay and yeah good catch thank you thanks christy otherwise it's great and i appreciated the way the the what you put in there make sense to me you're open to other options you know you could you know you could have another session in the middle of the meeting you know i don't know it's it's up to you but i thought this would work for the way that the meetings run mm-hmm no i'm just gonna say in a certain way i actually kind of appreciate the spirit here which i often have felt like there are people sitting at the meeting who would probably like to hear what we are talking about saying doing and have some time at the end to ask questions or process and the way it's healthy for that's the intent right so it's healthy community participation i think that one of the nicest things about this law going through is that before it passed um the new hampshire school board association put in language stating that the state board has to live by this requirement as well and that went through so now the state board who hasn't had any public comment in several years is now also required to have a minimum of 30 minutes of publication correctly just take effect at the october morning yes does the chat remain open then so what happens is the chats open whenever public input is open and then it closes whenever you're in your business session of the meeting so basically with this we would reopen the chat whenever we reopen public comment [Music] but like this evening we didn't have it open for 10 minutes no but just but we waited and there was nobody running so we would just keep track of how long we would time it we had had it open and then we would reopen it but we don't have to keep it open the second time for the remaining balance right if everyone's talking no as long as the offer is there so wait so we can have it open for three minutes at the beginning and then open it again and have no one do it and close it if we have if we have offered it again you can't have your the board sit there for 25 minutes doing nothing for example before you go into a non-public session just to you know to fill the time limit for some reason i thought that wasn't an option allowed under the i brought the of course the timing of it isn't great but i did sign up for the school board association webinar about this but it's not it's not happening soon well it's soon but it's not in time for it's not happening now yeah so i brought the um i brought the law with me so here are the options you can allow more than the required 30 minutes you can break the 30 minutes into more than one session or you can include a provision to the effect that if there are not enough speakers at the beginning of the meeting to exhaust the full 30 minutes the board will provide opportunity at the end of the meeting for additional public comment of no less than the balance of the 30 minutes so that so we'd have to have it it would have to be for 27 minutes yeah that that's i'm not it was that was deeply argued during the passage of this and it was i know i mean and i know that was one of the hinge points of this was that boards were going to be sitting there yeah and they said so be it yeah all right so the first sentence of 189.74 implies that the board needs to provide opportunity for public comment while the second sentence says the period must be no less than 30 minutes a reasonable reading would be that the opportunity for 30 minutes would suffice this sample suggests that if not enough speakers are present at the point in the agenda for public comment the board can table the remainder until the end of the meeting if no speakers are then present the board could adjourn that's sort of the legal opinion on the legislation i'm willing to push at the edge a little bit maybe i shouldn't say that it's been recorded i mean i can go back to the school board association before you do your second reading and adoption because this is just the first reading but you may know that's true it may make sense to do in the beginning 10 in the middle 10 in the end and that way what's the number of it it's the it is 189.74 i guess we wouldn't officially start it until november because we wouldn't we would have a second reading and adoption next meeting is that am i right we could start it next time with that or we could get a next layer opinion yeah yeah i think if we are comfortable with this and we do a first reading of it tonight i think i will have you can see what you can find out yeah in the meantime and i think i will have been let me find out when that webinar is um october 11th no i think i know um but we can find i mean we can we can get some clarification yeah it'll just be before that hong kong yeah all right get it prequel yeah i know can i have the presentation early um okay so if we're comfortable with this let's do i think that's a good point we can do a first reading of it tonight and then if we need to amend or adjust that in october we will all right laws really are supposed to be reasonable though so you know having a board anywhere or everywhere around the state sitting there for you know half an hour just that's wasteful and that was part of the they i listened to the debate about it and they said should you know this be changed and it was no they need to sit there half an hour sitting in silence yes yep um a little over the top okay all right so we need a motion to approve the first reading of b-e-d-h so moved i have a motion from leslie a second and a second from nancy all those in favor please say i i and any opposed say nay all right our next agenda item is the principles report so anything you would like to highlight or add to your report um just we've just completed day four um and it's happy it's everything seems everyone's positive and happy and the laughter and the learning um like i said in here it's not saying we don't have glitches because we do and we'll have them every day but we work collaboratively to get through them and it's a great place to be other than that it's as written [Music] i have to say mr jensen just warmed my heart i knew you'd love that it just made me want to bring up my buckets and sticks the um the posters that you had the teams made is so cool and like seeing them on the first night back but like looking at the i mean the years of experience is like the thing that jumps out at you but the thing that i kept getting lost in was like the other things that people have done and like the degrees that they have and like just the sort of like really interesting well-rounded of experience that's in the building and it was like i'll have to look at that more and more well it was hard to read yeah they're hanging out okay yeah and what was a snowball fight what was that oh so we and i did this in a conference this summer and i thought it was so great so i asked everyone what was weighing heavy on them as we went into the school year um or what they were anxious about or another way like what was your night before dream gonna be about and they wrote it on a piece of paper and then we crumpled it up and we had like a 10-minute snowball fight where we just kept grabbing paper and chucking at each other and then at the end you stand in a circle and you read what's on the paper that you have in your hand so it's not yours um and in the smaller group that i did it in at the conference we talked about each one but we're kind of a large group to do that so we just kind of did the grantham village full connection um in some things people talked about for the most part we just understood that we all have these similarities and we can help each other i'm so glad any other questions or comments for kristin thank you you're welcome thank you all right our next agenda item is the superintendent's report i'm just basically going to submit my report as written however just a couple of things um it really has been a wonderful opening so thank you very much mrs reed and um we are still working on that pavilion project it is delayed at every stage but we haven't given up we're we're still chugging along every day trying to get that to all happen and i did want to point out that um financially you're going to be hearing a lot from me about how we have had um since i've been here in the last six years we've had the most unanticipated special ed costs that we've had so our budget has already taken a really significant um hit and you may have seen that in some of the budget reports that you've already gotten is that we've already had quite a few lines exceed what we had expected so we are going to try and shift as much as we can to cover things with grants but i'll keep you posted and then of course you saw the um spring report from lebanon which is always great to see any other questions or comments from sydney just to comment on the specialized costs like i can't help but think like you know we got we had wonderfully so many user funds and coving grants but this is our existence this is going to be the cost over a long period of time right any other questions or comments all right our next agenda item is the consent agenda do we have any um additions or anything we want to pull out and talk about from the consent agenda all right then we need a motion to approve the consent agenda second i have a motion from leslie in a second from denise all those in favor please say aye aye any opposed say no okay non-public yes you told me yes yeah we just have uh two things so we'll be going in under rsa 3 2 91832 and 91 a 3 2 e e okay all right so um when we come out of our um non-public session we don't have any we won't be taking any votes after that so when we come out of non-public session we'll just be a journey in the meeting our next meeting is october 4th and so when we come out of our non-public we won't restart the zoom or anything like that we're just going to come out of it and adjourn so for folks that are joining us virtually this is your chance to say bye to all of us um and hopefully you can join us for our october meeting thank you for folks that are continuing to join us virtually we really appreciate um i will just say for myself i really appreciate people continuing to engage with the board um and come to us you know and join us virtually it's not something that we had before the pandemic times so seeing people have the chance to be with us that way is really important so um with that said we need a motion to enter non-public session under rsa 93 a 3 2 a and 91 a 3 2 e so moved second i have a motion from nancy and the second for leslie and this is a roll call vote so if you are in favor please say i nancy i leslie aye ed denise aye brittany i all right so we are entering non-public at 7 56