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Yeah, that we moved that from the budget to
quite a good way to to make a budget at the delivery of session.
So I think we've voted on that to confirm that,
and it's not going on it.
Okay, thank you.
No.
Was it voted on at the deliberative session?
We just moved.
Okay. As long as it wasn't voted on how we get.
So we should do it. But what I'm saying, for ask me, do you table it?
I think we tabled it for additional information.
I don't think we voted.
Who gave me the, this gave me the color film on my way out.
It says it agreed.
He had lobster for dinner last night.
He brought home three.
Well, he brought home three, but they caught life.
50, yeah, well, just 50.
And then he got to a rubles to.
I was stuck there.
We need any vote we need.
And then talk about clarification.
Oh, God.
You made me do it.
Yeah, you said it was fun.
Smalley.
You're right here.
Wendy's right there.
But I've already talked to Stephanie.
I have to seven.
I have no. I don't.
We count it 73 lots of them.
I don't know.
He should take them.
It's crazy.
Right down the middle.
yeah right so that's so that's so that the people carry the casket right now
okay
no longer. No, no when you have limited amount of
semitary space.
Okay, we'll get to it.
As long as we're in the same sinking ship, it's good to know.
Certainly is.
Going down with somebody I know.
I think we're on.
We're ready to be on.
Two minutes.
Let's see what happened.
So we'll call the meeting to order of the Board of Selectmen,
town of Hampton Falls, June 17th,
2006.
It's 8 a.m.
And we've got a full agenda, so we'll get started right away.
We'll start with our monthly reports.
Police and animal controls first.
Good morning.
Is that working?
Yeah.
I don't say anything.
I'm a lot of hearing today.
As I presented the monthly report,
if there's any questions,
pretty typical month for us.
Over the past,
I guess since our last meeting,
then Justin Renaro
did a bike safety class
with Lincoln Acombe at School.
All Lincoln Acombe in school
went well.
He did that with the
in congestion with the nurse.
over there.
This past
Friday,
a couple of us ran
in the torch run for
Special Olympics.
There's obviously
anybody out there that
willing to donate is obviously a great
cause.
We're making some more plans
for our, again,
changing our field day to national
night out.
I guess
I guess
Our hope this year
would be to
we're going to switch it
over to the
Town Common
instead of Governor
World Park
hoping to
sort of discussions again
with
you know
sort of the wider
community and
what's the best
sort of
what's the best plan
moving forward
to get some more
participation
instead of
like on a week
a weekend
we moved it
to the weekday
and you know
sort of the town common
we know
we've had
some great programs
there
that seems to
more of a focal point
everybody can see it
and stop
and stop in
so
still putting
sort of piecing
that together
as we go
and in relation
to that
our winner
from last year
it's
field day
we always do
a little
pulling him
out of a hat
and we drove
home
the winner
and his
his sister
from
Lincoln Nickman
school
at the end of the end of the air
so it would just a big
big display of it
any questions for the chief
I would say that's bringing back
an old
there was a
used to be in town
here for years
the thing called
the village green fair
and it was on the common
and it was like
a major event
there were sack races
and all kinds of old-time things
New England kind of things
so I think the venue
was much
more appealing
so
hopefully we had to work
work out. I guess I tried to get as many people there as possible.
Yeah, so it's going to be August
4th, it's a Tuesday night, so it's a national night out, so it's sort of like everyone, and that's
4 p.m. to 7 p.m.
4 to 7, you said? Yeah.
Seeing no other questions.
Thank you so much.
All right. Thank you.
Chief Hudson.
You guys should all have my report. We have any questions on that.
We did have a pretty good weather event
towards the end of May. Luckily, we didn't
sustain any true property damage.
other than some trees down, electrical lines on people's houses, but nothing significant, thankfully.
Some towns had trees literally cut houses in half, and we were able to avoid that.
Luckily, the Hampton Falls bubble kept it off of us just a little bit.
The alarm system is finally getting installed, thankfully.
He was here all day yesterday.
When he left yesterday, he informed me that the fire system was up,
and today he expects that the rest of the system
and we'll be live as well.
I'm going to expect a learning curve
with it, so PD, we're
sorry, you're probably going to get a bunch of false alarms
on the alarm system
and just learning how to set, unset,
and forgetting to do things, but that's okay.
Okay, so
part of my job is being the bad guy sometimes
and we're coming up on the 4th of July.
I need to remind everybody there
is a town ordinance for fireworks.
There are permits required for fireworks.
Part of that is that 24-hour window letting your neighbors know that you're going to do it.
There's a lot of folks here in town that have large pets like horses,
and horses don't like fireworks.
So that window gives them time to get the medication to calm them down.
We've already had some instances in town where horses got loose
because neighbors either didn't know or didn't care about the ordinance
and they were lighting stuff off, and those folks didn't have that opportunity.
Just swing by the department.
There's absolutely no charge for the permit.
There's a little list of responsibilities for the permatee to do,
and then they can light them off.
They do four a year, so it's pretty fair, I think.
And with the 250th being this year,
I expect that it's going to be a pretty bright sky that night.
We have no restrictions on possibility of fire or anything
as a result of fireworks and the light.
from the state.
State has not said anything.
We actually had the Rockingham County
Forest Wardens meeting last night
at our station. The Forest Wardens
were all here, and so was the
current
captain who's soon
to be chief of the Forest Rangers
was in the building.
Other than the fact that we have drought and we
we need like eight inches of rain to pull us
out of it, they didn't have
any huge concerns.
Most of the state
doesn't do fireworks. It's kind of regional.
Seabrook, Hampton Falls. Hampton does not allow it at all.
Seabrook Beach doesn't allow it. Each town or city
has their own rules and regulations.
But yeah, we're going to keep a close eye on that when it gets closer
depending on where the fire danger is.
Because if you can't have an outside fire, you're definitely not shooting
fireworks in the air. Not legally anyway.
I think we should also put
something out about the danger of
firing firearms into the sky instead of fireworks.
Yeah, that would
sounds like a police situation, but
the fire and police could mention that, that
gunfire is not
an alternative option when you run out
fireworks.
Well, it's happening.
You laugh. I do understand, Lou, I grew up in
a gang area in
Texas, and when the fireworks stopped,
you heard the gunfire, you went inside.
That was what we grew up with.
And that, it does happen.
for some reason, fireworks bring out the stupid and folks.
Not all folks, just some of them.
Maybe we should just put a cautionary
something out there that with the 250th anniversary,
you know, people want to celebrate, be cautious on how you celebrate
firing of firearms within 50 feet of residence.
Is that it?
300 feet of a residence.
Ohio is the law.
Also, randomly shooting a firearm
in the air, I believe, would be reckless discharge
of a firearm no matter where you are.
You can aim at things, but
just randomly shooting them for
the noise of it all is definitely reckless.
Yeah.
I don't want to go to any of those calls.
I'd appreciate it if people didn't do that.
Because we're bound to get
one fireworks-related
incident every year.
It's just the nature of
playing with explosives for non-trained folks.
And even though it says not to mix
alcohol with it, it always happens.
Anything else?
Or our houses.
I have heard rumblings of it.
There was rumor it might have been med flight, but I haven't heard
what it actually was.
My member that could
tell me that happens to be north on vacation.
Jackson, his wife
being a pilot, he has a little app can tell you
what has flown over, when, at what time,
and what's happening in
that area. But yeah, there were lots
of folks saying that they thought, you know, thunder
or whatever was happening
right near their home.
Yes.
I'll see if I can get you an answer.
You said it last Friday.
I want to say
8 o'clock,
8 somewhere in that range.
I thought
whatever it was, they were flying way too low
in my estimate.
Were they planes?
Yeah, typically the only aircraft
that will get that low is life flight
if they're landing somewhere, but they definitely weren't
landing in our town.
That's for sure.
Sure. Okay. I'll look into it
and I'll get with Ryan see what we can
muster up. Good.
Thank you.
Next on the agenda is the road agent.
Nothing but good news this morning.
I take it
everybody's had time to read my report.
And I gave
an update
on the status of the culvert
on Drinkwater Road.
It's up to the Army Corps of Engineers.
They're requesting a
So let me get this straight.
Our application was in before
they changed the rules,
but the rules are retroactive to any
applications that are still pending?
My understanding is
that the application didn't go in
complete till this year.
And this is a new rule
this year. So
yes, by a couple months,
we're dealing with a new rule.
And the only good news is
that they're requesting everything to be done
within the next 30 days.
So maybe we can get a halfway
decent turnaround after that
30-day clock kicks in.
I reached out to
Paige. I asked her how long she thought
it might be, and I have not heard back
from her. I'll say it's usually
the Army Corps of Engineers moves
relatively slow, but
hopefully they can speed this
one up. And we can
explain to them the importance
of it. Okay, so we have
some roadside mowing.
Yes, I put together a package.
showing what
Sewell Enterprises was
charging for the horizontal
and vertical.
He was looking for $6,900
for the vertical,
$6,900 for the horizontal.
And
in the years past, I've done the
horizontal while he's done the vertical,
and I figured we could go along with the same
format
this year. And
I reached out to
Austin-Azpen Tree.
and they came in at $2.50 per hour.
And
this job roughly takes a little over
100 hours. So I think
we're like half
price compared to them.
Do we get a date that we're thinking
about doing this?
I've reached out to Dan. We're
trying to do it the same time, second week of July.
I usually start,
I like to start four or five days before him,
and that way we can
blend the two mowings in together.
Any questions on this issue?
at least as we go along.
All right.
Intertain a motion to move forward.
This is listed in our
account. Budget
number 493
for roadside
mowing.
And
the dates somewhere in the second
week of July. I'll make a motion to
move forward with the roadside mowing.
Any further discussion?
All those in favor?
Aye.
Aye. Aye.
Okay.
That's that business.
And then we have our core services bill.
And people had a chance to look at that.
Any questions on the core report?
Nope.
Motion to pay that bill of 18,64850.
So moved.
All those in favor?
All those in favor? All right.
I have one last thing that I'd like to
up? Of course you do.
Regarding the brush dump on
white goods days.
As of now, we don't really
have anything in place. We're charging
people per load to come
to the brush dump and drop off stuff.
Now we have people coming in with a pickup
truck full
and towing a trailer
that is full.
So we only have, like,
charge per visit.
I'd like to be able to charge for the
truck.
and if they're towing a trailer, that would be an
additional fee. We do not
have that in place. So I think
that's reasonable. That sounds
reasonable. Yeah.
And a lot of people seem to be doing
it. The volume
has increased quite a bit down
there. Do we need another
dumpster
brought in or not?
I'm able to keep
up with it right now, but we are on the
edge of an additional, possibly
two dumpsters at once.
I'm able to compact it pretty well.
But
I'm not sitting still anymore.
This is the monster we created.
Yes.
Yes, and it's getting...
It's getting larger.
Well, it's not on the side of the road
on side road, which is
a plus, I guess.
Correct. They say that that is why it's on the side
of the road usually because the town
doesn't have a way to get rid of it.
And the roadside trash
has decreased because of it.
Do we need to make it?
So all we need to do is
have Beth be vicious at the gate
and
hit them hard.
Yes, they should pay it twice.
They're coming in with a pickup truck
heat. And then they're coming in with
towing a trailer, also
heat. That should be a double
charge. A household.
A lot of household. A lot of household. A lot
of everything. You know, decks
being replaced.
Couches,
furniture, kitchen cabinets, everything.
Yes, quite a bit of construction material, yes.
And we don't even know if it really originated here.
No.
There is no way of telling other than
we know it's a town resident, correct.
Yeah, maybe a town resident doesn't mean they're not.
They have friends out of town.
But you are correct.
Yeah.
That's the only place, yeah.
the wood is a kitchen or a deck,
they're winning in charge
with those big trees
is different.
The wood is very light as a rule, though.
I mean,
but it's all.
you're going up to
come in front.
You can see
with a charge of the load.
It's really hard
and then we get to
instead of it in your
enough.
Well, I think the first step is to do what you're proposing, so I think we're proposing, so
I think we have to change, though, the regulation or the rule on it and put it out there
so people know that we're charging based upon truck load or trailer load
and if you have a truck and a trailer, you get charged twice.
Correct.
So I think we need to put that out in the newsletter or in anywhere else.
But I think it makes perfect sense.
Yes.
We have 18 wheels pulling in filled up.
We're going to be in trouble.
Probably, even though we've had a long discussion today without it.
Beverly Mitri Brown Road.
I went to the dump once
with a comment.
My car that was empty, SUV, but the trailer had stuff in it.
And I think they only charged me for one vehicle.
So I think that would be,
the norm would be, it depends on how much stuff is in both vehicles.
If it's a pickup truck, that's one charge, and if it's a trailer.
Well, if there's nothing in the pickup bed.
But then it's only one.
It's only one because you've got stuff in the trailer.
Correct.
Okay. Well, that makes sense.
I think we're talking about loads.
If there are two loads being all by the same vehicle,
they're going to get two charges.
Yes. Some people come in with SUV's heat, you know, packed.
Yeah. And then they also have a trailer in tow.
That's two loads.
That's two loads. Yes.
And we can make that note on the website as well,
and Stephanie will hammer them down in office number one down there when they walk in.
Mr. Chairman.
I have one thing for me.
I've been looking around town, and there are a number of stop signs.
They're in pretty tough shape.
Very faded out, you know, and they're hard to see.
I think we should start a program of identifying them and replacing a few at a time.
Okay.
We'll do.
Yes, so the intersection of King.
I have a temporary sign up there right now.
That sign, if things go right, we'll be replaced today.
I had the land.
owner talked to me on Saturday at 2 o'clock with regards to that being must have come down
the night before. And if we're going to put up stop signs, although I can't say these work
because Nason Road in Drinkwater, it's see who can run the stop sign the fastest.
But those stop signs with the vertical
reflecting line coming down are far better than just the old stop sign in my mind.
You put up four there, right?
Yes.
And I haven't been hit since, but the reality is that some of the stop signs are also in tough places, too, to see.
So you get somebody coming through town.
So we might want to make an assessment about where we're putting them.
But I like those, the four, not what I like.
not what I like, but the four, they seem to have a little more presence at Nason and Drinkwater
than just a regular stop sign.
Yes.
I don't know how much they are either.
That's the other thing.
What, the strip?
Yeah.
The strip was $50 per strip.
Yeah.
It works well at night.
Yeah.
It helps a lot.
I have some higher resolution signs that I was planning on putting on,
on the Nason Road section.
That seems to be where they're speeding through.
Not Drinkwater Road does not seem to be a problem.
It's nascent.
They fly through Nason Road.
So that being said, I'll get some additional signs.
Try and make the people aware of the intersection.
I don't know if they're just going through it or whether they're not seeing it
because they're texting or what they're doing.
But they do go through it.
at a pretty good speed.
Yes.
Anything else?
Yes.
Oh.
Yes.
They should be five feet off the ground minimum.
And the reason is if you're on a bicycle, you don't want to, if you're on a bicycle,
you don't want to hit your head going by.
So they should be five, six feet high.
But in the past, we put them up that high.
People don't like them that high.
But so five feet is roughly the minimum that they recommend.
Two feet off the side of the road, five feet high.
So I'll start going by that and get rid of the real short ones.
That'll work.
And start in the more notorious areas where people don't stop.
Okay.
Which could be any of the cut-throughs.
Yes.
I've noticed.
Yeah, a lot of traffic.
A lot of out-of-of-state traffic.
They aren't New Hampshire plates, that's for sure.
Any else for us?
And you were going to bring just good news, right?
Okay.
That's all you have.
Thank you.
Okay.
Thank you.
The building inspector is up next.
So the village silversmith is paving this week.
They're getting very close to their grand opening.
That should be fun.
Anybody has any comments on that.
Looks great.
Are there any other points on the report that need discussions?
The Brewer, the Hampton Falls Brewers,
is still chugging along?
Yeah,
it's now down
to the well
location.
DES has the septic plan in hand,
but they're trying to determine the nitrate loading
of the area for the well.
I actually have a call to place
to millennium engineering
right after this to discuss that.
We're just trying to close that piece
out so we can get their site plan
done for their new system
and it's ready to permit.
ready to go.
And they're all set with the DOT, right?
They're done with them.
Yes, they've been long done with DOT.
Got a long list there, but they don't seem all that.
They seem under control, kind of.
Yes.
We always say kind of here.
Anything else, Mark?
Quiet month at Plenty Board coming up, so.
It is quiet.
We're starting our ordinance and regulations swing through the summer.
We'll be going through the summer.
We'll be going through the
eggs and making any corrections
and updates.
On the museum,
on the water situation?
Yes.
It sounds like the water for the irrigation
is flowing through
the filtration. Is that correct?
That is correct. So the water for
the historical museum emanates
from the town hall building.
There is no water source in the museum.
Why is it going through the filtration?
Can it be most of the time?
Well, the scary part
is there's so much rust.
in the water that if it doesn't go through the
filtration and the sprinklers are hitting
the white building or the
granite stonework that they've just
completed, the staining is just going to be horrible.
I was
in discussion last night with somebody about
this and I lit upon
the idea perhaps
the main reason they need a lot of
water right now is to get the new
lawn that they plan to establish
so that the weeds don't get a
foothold. So one
of the things I looked at and we could
do some inquiries is maybe some portable
watering equipment just to get the
lawn established.
So there's a couple of companies
Trirental listed as a
possibility and then there's the large
place up in North Hampton Sunbelt
where you can get a
500-gall tank
with a portable generator
if necessary. It could probably provide electrical
power to it and then it might be wider
that would water the lawn at specific
intervals until the lawn establishes.
And we could even
me fill it.
No, it's not
if the fire truck
could top off
the water
water
more.
that's a good
that's a good point
lose all the
minerals.
right, and that's the other
right, and that's the other
that's the other concern is that it would just
it would just put so much
stress on our filtration
system. So there's been
discussion there was an ask about
drilling
their own well
for the museum, but
if we did that, we'd have to treat it and
there's no space in there even put a
filtration system, unless you want to
put it in the crawl space, which wouldn't be
a very easy task. So
it just seems like the water
has to come from an outside source, but the
main thing is to get that wand going.
And there's just not enough water
coming out of here to
do that. There's not enough volume to
supply the need.
So I have a call out to Eppingwell.
I'm waiting for them to call back and see
if we can get them to come and assess the system
and maybe they might have some suggestions.
So we're working on it
wholeheartedly.
Anything else?
We're good. Well, good. Thank you, Mark.
Okay. Okay, under
under old business, financial reports,
general fund balance as of June 9th,
2026, 710,062.71.
And the P-DIP poll
pool is
7-day yield is 3.67 as of June 10th.
And then we have accounts payable, payroll,
treasurer, trustees of the trust fund warrants before us.
Any questions on any of those, gentlemen?
No. All right, so
payroll warrant number of PRO 5.22.26 for
$39,534.31 cents.
And number of P.R.O.
6.5.26 for 40,000, 672.94.
And so that's the payroll warrants.
We'll do those.
separate. Is there a motion
to approve those as listed?
So moved.
Any discussion on them?
All those in favor?
Aye.
And then under accounts payable warrant
6.5.26
for 734,
094,094
and 36
cents in warrant
number 6.8.26
colon
289,000.
546.43 for
accounts payable.
Motion to approve those as listed.
So moved.
All those in favor?
I'm assuming
those were school related.
Yep. Okay.
So
it looks like we made it.
Which is always the question here, right?
Plus a year. Okay.
Any other old business
anybody has?
Open up to public comment
on old business issues.
Anybody have anything to add?
Seeing none. We'll move
on. Under new
business,
Block 5 technologies,
Mike Ebbett.
Is it Ebbett or Ebbett?
Ebbett, okay?
Good.
I reached out to Mike. We had talked about
our current vendor.
So he's going to come in and
explain, you know, basically
sorry.
basically the crossover, you know, just, you know, in pricing and whatever else if you want to add to that.
So my name is Mike.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
Yeah, so I'm the owner of Block 5 Technologies when I've been in business for a little over 20 years.
We serve about 20 to 25 municipalities, including Rockingham County, Stratford County, and towns very close to here.
I was doing IT for.
town Kandia almost 20 years ago when Andrea was still there. So we'd that there
are our longest standing municipal client is Kandhi. We're still working with them.
And we're still working with every municipal client that we've ever been brought on to
to assist. So I guess what I'd like to handle this in whatever way you think would be
most efficient for you. If you have questions about what we do, I'm kind of here to just answer
questions about our services and how they might differ from what you're receiving now
and what you're expecting, what you'd like to see happen in the coming years.
Yeah, I think what stood out for me is our monthly bills with the current vendor.
I mean, we have service calls that are coming in at $4,000 per month, and Mike provides.
This is just one of the many things he provides, but his service calls usually come in at, you know,
we're talking like $1,200 a month.
So I think we could, he could.
He could be more cost effective. He is one vendor.
I understand that the board, if they want to put it out too good, you can.
But, you know, I've been having conversations with Mike.
So he's kind of here to discuss that with you.
I think, Mike, a lot of this came to
came to my realization.
I'm not sure anybody else may have known about it ahead of time,
but we had a time when we had no town administrator here.
And so I was in the building going through
documents and pulling up, you know, numbers and trying to associate them with budget lines and so forth.
I'm sure.
It became obvious that the amount of money we were spending on this area was inordinately high.
So then Stephanie and I started to ask, you know, okay, if you got an issue and it's IT related
and you create a ticket for somebody to fix it or look at it, but the costs were,
associated with that ticket as you went through.
And so we got feedback from people who are using what we're presently on,
and then we have the budget that we're looking at.
And, of course, we're always looking to try to save money
and not spend money unwisely.
And so when Andrea came on board, one of the things I asked her is, you know,
you know, one of the things we talked about was this situation where I think we're paying
a significant number higher than what the norm is.
And not knowing anything, quite frankly, not knowing to investigate exactly where we could still get quality service
and have some savings here as well.
So we would look forward to hearing from you about that and about what we're presently doing.
and I think where we could make some changes.
So that's where this comes from.
Sure.
Okay.
We are.
Until next year.
Yeah.
So end of 2026.
So end of 2026.
So, yeah.
I did have a resident that came in and we talked about it.
So I thought we'd get ahead of it, you know, because.
When you, when you, you know, switch over, there's always a good, I mean,
you could probably speak to this, but it probably takes, you probably couldn't do it to the fall anyway.
And then it takes, like, a few months.
I mean, how many, I mean, at least like.
The onboarding, onboarding process can differ from client to client, depending on the outgoing
provider and how cooperative they are with sharing information, the state of your current
systems, if they're supportable, if they're protecting you the way they should be.
So that can certainly vary.
I can tell you that my primary goal for our customers is making sure that the environment is going to run properly and that it's manageable and secure.
That all devices are auditable, up-to-date, supported by manufacturers, not, you know, maintaining current vulnerabilities, right?
So patchable, supportable items.
This comes from switches to desktops, you know, everything Windows 11 because of that whole push, I'm sure you've heard.
servers, firewalls, and then how we encrypt your data and back it up.
So when it's off-site, it's not vulnerable.
No one else can get access to it, but if we need it, we can get there.
80% of the time, 85% of the time, we end up having to basically rip and replace most of what is in environments like this.
And this environment isn't any different from what I've seen.
Like you have, your environment is loaded with single points of failure,
where one thing can die and you'll be down.
And that's only on the productivity side of things.
From the security side of things, a lot of older switches, and I can't speak to what's inside the servers and how they're configured, how they're managed.
But we have a kit. We have a boiler play template for all our environments where we have two servers that get put in place.
We buy reverse servers so we don't have to spend three times the money on something brand new, but still have warranty.
We have shelves full of this gear back at our office.
We can respond faster than Dell or HP ever could.
But we build basically a redundant environment.
And we could build that environment, the idea that I have right now based on my site visit.
If what I understand to be true that these two buildings are connected with fiber,
then I could build one set of servers that could live most likely over at Public Safety Complex
because that's where your EOC is, right?
You've got a generator over there.
So we would put a dual server kit over there.
All town, fire, and police would be living in that two server setup, but separate from each other for sieges purposes.
So, you know, FBI and Seizis regulations will be honored.
Personally identifiable information for the townsfolk and medical information, HIPAA stuff for the fire department.
They all stay separate.
And, but we can allow access to shared resources as.
needed, but it is perfectly acceptable to run these things this way. So instead of having
a server here, a server here, a server there, we have two servers, powerful ones that will allow
everyone to connect. We're centralizing the backups to one location, so now we have one set of backups
for an entire organization. So it's not, I wouldn't call it a cheap, depending, that's really
going to be relative, right? If you shop around and get some other bids, you'll find that we are generally
on the lower end of what entities in this area are charging.
So our primary goal is to make sure that you're safe, protected, and functional, and that the
environment is a win for us and a win for you. If you call and say, I need a fire restored,
we can do it very, very quickly because it's our standardized setup. If you call and you say,
someone clicked on something they shouldn't have and now my drive is encrypted, well, first of all,
we've set up your environment in such a way that the person who clicked on something that this shouldn't have,
doesn't find its way through the entire network and shut the whole thing down, only what they have access to.
We can restore entire servers in our setup in minutes once we've determined if that's the right move or not.
We have replicas of everything. So the fire department, police department, and town hall,
server environments would all be living, replicated between the two servers. And it allows us to just very quickly restore without coming here.
So primarily, that's our goal, is to make sure things,
run the way they're supposed to, that you're meeting regulatory requirements, that your
constituents' data is safe, their information is safe, and then the second thing we think about
is costs. And we're not the cheapest out there. We do have the best reputation out there
when it comes to working with municipalities. I, you know, I'm not exactly sure what you're paying
right now, but I can tell you the way we operate with all towns is once we land
on a price, that's what you're paying for the year.
But no matter how many times we have to come on site, no matter how many times you have to call us
during the day, whether it's two in the morning, whether it's two in the afternoon.
So predictable costs is what we can offer.
It's, I doubt it's going to be a cost savings over what you have now, but it really comes down
to expectations and what you'd like to achieve.
And we can certainly help you have the best you can get without spending.
top dollar, unfortunately, I don't think we're going to help you save a lot of dollars.
But if you'd like confidence in your environment and to know that your users are trained at spotting
threats and that you've got a team of individuals who are highly regarded in the municipal space
and very, very responsive. I got to, I have a list, actually, and I apologize. I only printed
out too. I'm not sure what I was thinking. I know there's a minimum.
that's not set in stone it's just for reference for you but if you want to take a
look at the municipalities that we work with that's the list of them right there we do
business with plenty of entities that are not municipal as well
yeah so there's really two questions here the first is the
run on our system that's going to come up
we're talking about we're talking about an initial project to replace gear that you have
with a system that's manageable and secure and then we have our yearly cost yearly cost
Okay, so if our system, now, that's the reason, or you would, you would only...
So the short answer is it would need to be an environment that we can support.
That is that meets our minimum requirements. I haven't been able to look inside of
everything you have. I don't know if you're within line, licensing compliance with Microsoft.
Most of the towns that we encounter are not. So when I do provide a quote for what we will give
you, it is based on what we know about your environment. This is a conservative, budgetary number that
you can work with to get yourself in a good spot. What we do is when we come in, so you would
need to agree, worst-case scenario, this is what we pay, to have the
to have this project done so you can support our network properly. Once that happens, we come in,
we start getting under the hood, we start to find out what you've actually got. If we can utilize
some of what you have, we will. We don't like to just buy stuff for the heck of it.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. What's your $5,000 right now is your warrant article limit?
limit?
Gotcha, yeah, for sure.
So I can tell you that the project is usually they range from 15,000 to 35, and it really depends on the size of the organization.
If I'm dealing with an entity that has, like the town of Hookset, which is one of our clients,
they've got fairly large systems and four buildings around town with a large user base.
There's a lot going on.
lot going on there, so that project is certainly going to be more money.
Again, it comes really down to what you're expecting and what you're wanting.
My opinion, my firm opinion, is that the value is in having your own server here,
especially nowadays with the turn of AI and AI hacking.
When you have your data under your roof encrypted and managed by people who know what they're doing,
we can recover you faster than if you were to live in the cloud.
And if we try to move things to the cloud,
There are certain things that you can do in the cloud, and we do, like Office 365.
It would be cost prohibitive nowadays for us to run a Microsoft Exchange server when all you have to do is pay 15 bucks a user to have everything you need up there, including your office licensing.
This is a whole thing about two things of concern about some of the costs.
Yeah, Ed and I had talked.
Yeah.
So they weren't necessarily, they didn't come about it.
It didn't come about that.
No, no, we were concerned.
Ed and I had talked when I first started about the costs.
Also, the turnaround time on some of the service calls, I know Stephanie has had a situation,
and they're like, well, we can't help you until tomorrow, and she needed really the assistance right away.
She's the town clerk, and she needs the system up and running because people are coming in the door to get serviced,
and she can't do it.
And they're not responding in kind, timely enough for her to get her work done.
In all the various, sometimes it's a little more that we can have to.
Like, for me to install, say, a simple little scanner on my computer to be a few-day event,
because I'm not allowed to put that on my computer.
So they get to the revoke in from that company and do it down with one.
Same with a printer.
If my printer goes down, I'm down for an evening.
It's meant to get somebody to log for our system.
We don't have to do that.
So it obviously can you sound like the service we're getting from a current provider to
Well, that would be my question to any other.
And I think...
Are we held to that change strength with our devices outside of the computer?
For example, when I scan, I need to do an update.
I have to say no, I have to call them.
If it's going to get it two days later, they log in and use the three-day-up.
What you're talking about is this fine line balance between security and...
security and usability.
It's a thing for everyone.
Even in my office, nobody is an admin on their machine.
Certain people within organizations can have admin logins
to use in the event that they need to install something,
but should never be logged in as an admin as you're just doing your work.
Because if you're logged in as an admin with full control over whatever you've been granted,
and now you click on something that you shouldn't have,
now that thing has.
the power to embed itself in your computer.
And that's happening more and more and more.
So it's a tough thing.
We recognize what people want.
I certainly wouldn't call it a stranglehold
because it's something that we agree on at the start.
That we're the administrator.
So if you picture us like, if you had an IC person here
that you hired full-time, hey, can you come over and fix my printer?
And he could be there and fix it within 15 minutes.
He probably wouldn't care all that much because he would
all that much because you'd be over there taking care of it,
and then you'd be off doing the things
that fire chiefs do instead of IT work.
Even though you're capable of doing
probably anything under the sun,
most firemen are Renaissance men,
and great cooks too.
But the difference is, like, we are,
we've always recognized that we
are generally hired in lieu of
having an IT person who is dedicated and knowledgeable
about all your systems, and not only that,
what's going on in the world, what's going on with security, and how things are supposed to run.
So we have always tried to be as quick as possible.
Culturally, that's probably one of the most important things at Block 5.
And I tell this to anyone who's coming in, the first thing you have to take care of is the customer.
We're a service-oriented business.
We're not here for the technology.
We're here for the user, and the users talk, and that's why we have a good reputation everywhere you go.
Call anyone in any one of those numbers, and you'll find that we're fine.
We've got a great reputation.
Everywhere you go, nobody has permission to do the things they need to do.
However, well, they'd like to get it.
However, they can reach us very quickly, and we will do the things that need to be done.
I make sure I have plenty of people on staff who can answer the phone and respond emails very quickly.
So it's a, it's a, no, we do create a ticket for, obviously, for tracking what we're doing,
so there's some accountability and my ability to audit and take a look at my metrics and how the guys are doing,
up to it or you know, we can service meetings, things that we can bring up.
But no, it's not going to be a three-day event.
And is this with Avatar?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Can you just do this for me?
Yeah.
No, no, definitely not a three-day event.
This goes back to the whole mentality.
The idea, like, we recognize what we need to be and what you need us to be.
You need us to be quick.
You need us to be fixing your stuff and you need us out of your way.
So you need us to be.
get back to what you're doing, and we take a lot of pride in the ability to do that.
And a very consistent track record of doing that over and over again.
So if we sit in and make of people, we follow our recommendations of updates,
our grade, by new DCs, which is one of the whole things.
So we don't understand are stump.
We just were playing the server.
I'm just going to say, I feel like the depends on that,
recently.
But you did come in.
assess whether or not anything else to be done.
There's definitely something that needs to be done.
I don't know if you've seen the fire department network closet?
No.
Maybe. Go take a look at that.
It's, well, you walk in and you turn around and everything's up on a shelf,
stacked with wires wrapped around wires, and it's just not a manageable situation.
No, no reflection on chief. It's not his work.
It's not his work.
You know, switch, you know, switch connected to the wires.
another switch, connected to another switch, because we need five more ports.
Most of the switches aren't manageable, so you have no visibility remotely to see actually what's happening in the...
Manageability, auditability, goes right hand-in-hand with the ability to quickly support and diagnose issues.
You guys have to start to coordinate your laughter, too.
So when a selectman asks a question, you're all laughing because you know it's on the other end of it.
Because you need to work on that a little bit.
We get it.
We get it.
Maybe we, my thought is that Mike and anybody else who's interested in taking a look at this scenario
and trying to deal with what we're dealing with should be coordinating with Andrea.
And we weren't going to do anything prior to the budget season anyway, primarily because we have to worry about getting the budget season.
without being in the middle of that changeover.
And your calendar here?
Yes.
Yes.
So that being said, maybe we need not only Mike but some other people to take a look and see what we should be doing.
But before this contract runs out and we get to a new contract with a new contract with
anyone out there, my feedback when I was here for nine days was not positive on this level from any number of people.
So I thought we should probably look at it a little bit.
You have thought so?
I agree.
I think we should get some sort of financial proposal from anybody who's going to bid on it so we can compare apples to apples.
And we have no idea what we're talking about.
in terms of the cost. So we'd like to know that. And we also should get a quick assessment
on how many servers we have and when they were purchased. Because I think there's a relatively
new server in here and there's a new server at the police department. And I know that because
each time we've had discussions about going to the cloud versus buying a server and we've continued
to buy servers. I run an environment where we're on the cloud, 99,
percent. We have some servers, but we're still on the cloud. And it's worked fine.
And I have deployed 150 computers out there. So it works fine. But, you know, we're probably
paying too much money, too. It's unfortunate that most people don't understand the dynamics of
what has to go into one of these systems. And I do think you're right about the concerns about people's
ability to access and put on peripheral pieces of equipment, but people don't
like to have to wait for a week to get a printer put on or a scanner put on or to solve
a problem. So I think it's really trying to balance the needs of the people who want to get
quick results and what's safe for the environment.
Absolutely. That's the job. And one last thing I'll throw in there. The servers you have
inside of them. I wasn't able to log into them. And so I don't know what version of server
they're running. I don't know how they're configured. They could be configured like perfectly.
I don't know that. What I do know is that if your server guide, it would not be a 30-minute
turnaround for you to be backup and running. Someone would have to fix the server or replace the server,
recover from backups, get that data, restored. In situations like that, I'm usually seeing
like nearly a full day worth of downtime.
just to get your server restored.
Do we have a redundant server system? No.
No. No. And that's what he's proposing, a redundant server system.
Two servers at the public safety building that would control all of it,
but they would be redundant, correct?
Correct.
Centrally backed up, centrally managed everything from town hall, PV, FD, one setup.
And we could potentially use existing hardware that you have to make that happen,
as long as it will allow us to run what we need to run in there.
So we have.
plenty of overhead and so the machines aren't struggling to meet the load.
Okay. So I'll
just say I'll refer you to Andrea and as you go through
this and I would hope that people at PD and
fire the safety building would give you
all the access you need to kind of see what you've got to do and
and so we can get a reasonable
review. Yep.
Yep. Do you want me to do an RFP at
think it was like maybe two or three years ago that you did for an IT.
Do you recall?
Well, I think it would be a good idea to pull the existing RFP that was used and see how that
RFP sits to what he's proposing at this point in time.
All right.
Do you want me to get some quotes from other, a few other?
Yeah, I mean, very well may, but.
Okay.
Okay.
I can do that.
Nice to meet you.
Thank you for coming in.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Somebody calls me on this.
Somebody does.
Somebody does.
All right.
Now we're on to
Frank Pan Lane
cemetery request
before us.
Next on the list.
And Wendy's here, so
we'll get the
as we introduce this
issue, there are a couple things
that I think
as a board, we have to kind of recognize here.
One is, we were pretty convoluted the last time we talked about doing roads at the
cemeteries, which cemetery and what road.
And I think the reason for that is because we made a change at deliberative session
to move Westview's reclaiming of a road.
I'm going to call it that.
into the frying pan-lane account and remove it from the budget.
Is that what everybody remembers?
$7,000 somewhat dollars?
You moved the line item called other professional services out of our budget.
And included in other professional services was when we hire somebody out,
for example, Glee Woodworth, who restores our grave.
So that's
was out of our budget. If we have, we've had in the past to hire Epping well and pump
because something broke there, or if we had to hire someone to take down a tree that had
fallen down. So any other professional service was in that line, but the whole thing,
that whole line I'd have then got taken out, basically. So that was why in the frying pan...
To be funded by the frying panellane account. Yes, yes, out of the budget. It wasn't just taken
out. Yes. Moved to frying panellate. Correct.
shifted the cost out of the budget and onto the frying pan lane, which was yet to come
through. Well, we didn't know what it had come through. It would come through in February, but we didn't
know that at that point. So in the crux of all that, in the previous month, the
frying pan lane money had come through since I found out after the fact. All right. So
here we are today with regards to Oak Lawn.
Oakland.
Okay. So
I saw the proposal and I was interested in finding out a little bit about it.
I did a little research, found out that first off, I went up and looked where it was and I then went down to take a look at the map of the number of lots that we have in Oakland and what the necessity of
having another road through the middle of it might be.
And I was made aware that the lots in the middle where this road might go were crossed off
as far back as when Holly Knows was here.
So that that's the history behind it.
And so I did a little count, and it was 73 plots being removed to put a road.
road through. So that's that's all the information I have with regards to this other than
we have a cost factor here. If you want to go from there, Wendy, I think that's
accurate. You're correct. And I think over the past year, a year ago, I would say in April of
25, one of our concerns was the rescue roadways, but over the course of 2020 summer, fall,
Stephanie sold so many plots around this outside edge of Oak line that this project took more
importance because it was difficult.
So you're talking there's five rows of lots on both sides of this proposed roadway.
So that's 50 feet and 50 feet.
So you really need this roadway up the middle.
And what was happening is on either end, I think back when Holly Knowles was here, there were a couple of
lots sold that even made the road unable to be straight anymore.
So now the road had to go around a couple of sold lots.
And then it went up. And now we have one, we have one lot sold and we have a monument, right,
smack in the middle here of the entire cemetery.
And so it's hard for people to gauge when they're buying a lot where they are in this big open space
in this landlocked cemetery.
So this roadway took on more importance for us, a year.
ago after Stephanie was having these problems determining where these lots and people
were given a map and couldn't even hard to see where they were buying their lots.
So back in a year ago.
Is there a way we can mark those that are, you know, it's on a map, but is there a way we can
actually physically mark those in the cemetery so that people would be able to find
where a lot, whatever it is, whatever the number of social?
with is it is a requirement with now in our bylaws when somebody buys a lot that they
mark their corners so the corners are are usually marked there we also bought a lot of
these stakes that we hammered in to be ground level because you know you have people
coming in cutting the grass so you can't really have things sticking up marking everything
everywhere so we had these markers that were placed and marked the rows but
over time it only takes a year or two they get covered with grass and our
sexton now is out there trying to find these markers that we put in less than two years
ago so what we did last year is we took tall stakes and we went out and actually marked
this area that the road can go in with tall painted stakes so those will last for a while
hopefully till somebody can come in and do the work and back a year ago
when we asked Rachel at the time Rachel Webb suggested we do the RFP process so she sent out bids
she made the RFP and we had no replies from and then she pursued six different vendors I
gave you the list in my report and no one was interested in doing it except for Troy
Oloffson who's our local contractor who saw the RFP on our bulletin board and was interested in pursuing the work
He's the only one who's actually visited the cemeteries twice, looked it over,
see what both jobs entailed.
So he gave us a bid on both jobs at the same time because both of those were projects we wanted to do.
But at this point, the Oakland Roadway is taking precedence because of helping Stephanie sell these lots.
Any questions?
Yeah.
Exhausting, though, 70-some-odd plots is a huge issue, is it, Vaughan?
Claiming where the roadway is going, you're getting rid of 70-some-odd plots.
Well, that was before my time.
I'm not really sure when that was decided.
I assume it was decided because of the width and that those plots shouldn't have been.
Well, I guess my question is, why shouldn't they be there?
I mean, why are we taking away plots that in the future are going to be needed?
Originally, there was a walkway.
three-foot walkway at the middle.
Okay.
And so when I received the map years ago, the three-foot walkway was combined with one row of 10-foot-wide
lots to be a 13-foot-wide corridor to put in a roadway up the center.
I'm assuming, because I wasn't here at the time, that it was because of the need to access
both sides of the cemetery.
If you look at Westview, which is a well-used cemetery,
they're only 25 feet between roadways.
Now we've got, even with this road, we've got 50 feet between roadways.
And if you didn't have the road, you'd have 100 feet between the two roadways.
That's kind of a lot.
I went back in that room.
There's a really old, scrolled-up original map of whoever designed Oak Lawn Cemetery.
It was originally designed with more of these.
You must only own.
more land next to this because it was originally designed with multiple areas of lots
with roadways.
And I think when they put it in, they perhaps said this is what we need for now.
And so going forward, I believe I'd have to do the research that there's got to be more
land there for use, if we ever need it.
Plus...
I think the land is.
that we have up to the Revolutionary War Cemetery, obviously.
Yes, but on the other side.
And I think it's in the back where the gate is and all of that.
Because it gets really low.
There's a piece of land there, yeah.
I don't know about anything.
I think that's Applecrest land, though.
It was at one time Applecrest land on the other side, but it may not be, I don't know.
We may be able, I think you approve.
Mark can probably tell you what the line is.
I think you approve.
I believe you approved the ground-printing radar over at Westview,
which will reclaim 30 lots over there in 225-foot-wide squares that we are following the state regulations to reclaim.
So once we can check that underground, we can reclaim 30 lots there.
Do we have any idea how many lots we have?
Available?
Available?
Yeah.
Mine's kind of small, Stephanie.
Because obviously there's going to be a shortage to land at some point for cemeteries,
and we have to consider the need for it over the next couple hundred years.
And anything we do now will have long-term impact.
The one thing we know for sure, there will always be customers.
And you can't go to the cloud.
It's got to be in the ground.
It might be.
a good future project to pull out that original engineering map that had a very, you know,
and maybe we could work with Mark and see what we're talking about.
This is shaded for the roadways.
That was here before I got here.
And then all these blank ones are the empty ones.
So all these are the empty lots.
Those are the 73 last.
Those are the 73.
And the roadway is going right down to the roadway.
See this right here.
Yeah.
Shaded.
That's where the roadway is going.
And as Wendy said, some of the lots were sold at the end.
So these are all the lots that are available.
Right.
These are all the lots that are available.
Do you have that one in the middle on there too, Stephanie?
The question is, if you're a big of, how do you get in?
Try not to see them why we need the road.
We need the road to get equipment in.
Right.
Exactly.
Juner home comes.
They come in.
If it's a casket burial, they need to dig a hole.
All of these squares are locked.
So how do you, how does it, you can't drive, like, even if you had a road here,
how do you get to this person?
You can't, because there's still, it's still, it's still a distance from that.
Like, how does that?
It's similar to Westview.
Westview has multiple drives, right?
And they're all 25, this is 10, 20, 30,
that's 50 feet.
I mean, it is.
But if the road's here,
you can't drive over this guy, it's a grave,
to get to that.
But it can't have a road
next to everything.
No, I don't, but I guess I don't
I don't understand.
How do you dig this down?
If there's someone buried here,
someone buried here? How do they get to this one?
They're probably, I don't know.
I mean, that's a problem.
The machine, the machine they come in to dig is, has turf wheels and it's not, it's, it's not a huge.
So it's okay to drive over somebody that's underneath, but has a stone.
They don't care.
And when you drive over me down here, I won't feel you.
I'm just curious.
Say hello.
Right? I mean,
I just, maybe I've never, I've never
did. Well, you're on the other side of the road.
Yeah, I know. I'll come over occasionally.
I'm not crossing the mode every day.
This was always marked off like that.
He too.
Yeah, that's, well, it goes back
to Holly anyway.
Could be before her, I don't know.
And these were already sold here, so we have to go around like that.
Yeah, so.
What's the space here represent?
That was the original, like, was going to be a lot of way.
And that doesn't exist.
No.
Well, so there's no space here when you walk in the cemetery?
This up corner here is so messed up.
We've spent hours up there trying to mark it,
and I think we've got it marked down.
We've got all these corners marked the flags.
What's wrong we're putting the walkway in?
If that was a plan, why did they have that plan?
For access?
I'm trying to figure out what that was.
I guess my point.
My point is, is if you're going to drive over people's graves to dig these holes anyway,
why do you need a lot more graves?
I don't know, but you have no choice, right, in the way it's designed.
How wide is this walkway plane is supposed to be?
That's three feet.
Three feet?
And these are 10.
So the road wouldn't be 13 feet.
It would be like eight within that.
So we marked on.
the biggest opening that's the deal.
So then if they did put the road in, they put it in the bin,
you mean we marked.
So this poor guy here, there's something marked here.
That road will be right up against his.
This is great marked this.
That's okay, though.
It's close to me when you make the turn down there, too.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Be able to access you whether.
I'm going to charge a toll.
so
I don't know how to do the research to find out why this was done I can
like to say, wow,
you should block off so much.
When you go, I get to other,
there are any of other town cemetery,
they go around the space,
but a lot of them are older and not everyone.
Yeah, if you go up to a high street cemetery,
there's, there's,
there's a way to get through.
You're walking over other grades,
like, it's pretty normal, actually.
We do have a lot, but not a ton.
Yeah.
Of open.
That's on like a crazy amount that we have left.
Well, that might be 50 years worth.
Yeah.
Maybe you guys should take a look at it, too,
because I went up and walked it,
looked at it, and tried to get some sort of a gauge on it.
Then I came down here.
to have her help me with a crossed off list to see what it was.
So I think we should...
Does the road make sense to you?
Not really.
Does the walkway make sense?
The walkway makes more sense in the road.
Because that gives people access not to...
The only time there'd be a machine in here is to dig a grave.
The rest of the time people could use the walkway to access either side.
So maybe that's why they split the...
Because it's almost a direct...
You're down the middle, right?
You get five on either side.
It looks like somebody designed that you wouldn't go more than 50 feet,
one way or the other, if you use the walkway.
And how wide is that walkway?
We have any idea?
It's three feet wide.
Three feet wide.
Is there currently a walkway?
No, there's nothing there.
It's just open around.
You see open grass in this one monument sitting there.
You could get one of those little machines down here, down the walkway.
They have those narrow excavators, and they're like three or four feet wide.
So they would.
fit down the center here to dig.
No, dig the graves.
We did the walkway.
Grape versus the road. Just put a walkway.
I mean, that's really what you are looking.
Stuff is it's helping the gauge.
But you know, there's another side to it.
Not only do they have to dig the hole,
they also have to bring in
the container.
I'm not talking about the gasket.
I'm talking about the concrete container.
So you need something that
those things are heavy.
They do there already.
The machine that comes on.
Yeah.
I've seen me. I work in cemetery, so I've got to
do those lift
far over? Yeah, they have
a thing. But you'd have to go over a headstone
and everything else, right?
I think we should explore the walkway
because they did this for the reason.
And Horgo was designing this.
This is our newest cemetery, right in town?
Yep. So Warwood was designing
that obviously thought about this, that
they needed to be a walkway for access
to be inside of these, and they didn't
want to lose these lots. I'd
Losing of lots is, I think, I think you're a concern.
It's a concern because 73 watts.
That's a lot.
It is a lot.
73 lots is a lot of sales.
And you're not always going to be
2,400 people these people.
So can I ask one other question?
Is the answer to my dilemma in my head
that when people buy lots,
they should always start
be outside in? Because if you're going to access them,
because if you had
all these lots and all these lots
covered, but you didn't have these two.
You've got to get to them.
So if we sell them, sure we sell them
from the outside?
So right now we have
yes, and that's what I started asking.
Can they put a limit?
But right now we're saying
here's the map. You go look.
You decide what you want and come back to me.
Right. The problem is the horses are already
out of the barn. Okay?
along the way, whoever
was in charge,
whatever made decisions, whatever happened,
they screwed up the access to all these other
properties by selling the outside
is because by choice people
want to be on the roadway.
They want to be on the roadway.
So that's why they...
It should have been falling inside out.
You know, everybody wants to be on that.
But your question is, should we need
and say, you have to be
after that? Yeah.
You have to start here.
$850.
Well, at this point, you have to start
on the outside move in because
our only access is
stuff on.
Yeah, we should be selling.
He's right in here.
Right.
And we should be...
Whatever the
jumping off
that was, that's what should be
sitting so that you don't go over
anybody. But that, so now it's
like an old cemetery. You're going to have to go
over other people to get to
to access.
Are the only two
cemeteries that have over the
lots west of this.
But there's no one there. But there's no one there.
there's that one there. Is that any spot?
No.
I think about this, going back to the original, somebody thought this is the way to do of this.
That makes sense to me.
I think that makes the most sense, too.
I think that makes the most sense, too. You go back to the walkway and you start selling
We require that we sell from the outside stand at this point.
Do what?
Can we require, they're paying $850?
You're going to check the RSAs.
I don't think there's any reason why you can't,
but I'd even looking at them, but we should look at it.
But I think that you can tell people which ones that are available at this point.
Yeah, because you can do something,
because obviously,
so many crossed off 73 lots
when they thought about this, whenever they thought about
it, right? So you can do whatever you...
What's here?
Are they lots?
People are very many.
So, it's a village.
People are
not real estate.
Yeah.
Are they all in there?
And we don't even
know if anybody's going to be in it.
That's the other piece of it.
We don't keep reference of burials?
Which is a problem.
So do you do genealogy.
You don't.
You don't?
This is an island.
You go to that kind of church.
You know.
Maybe somebody wants a man.
So the other thing to consider is, if
somebody else is, if somebody,
is if somebody, I'll just use
all of us in, for example.
Like,
if they're buying all these lots
because they think all their kids
are going to want to be very different.
But they may not practice.
And there's not the problem with that.
And a lot of people,
the other thing is,
is a lot of people get cremated.
And, like,
I know from recent experience
of my mother,
her,
she has multiple lots,
but she was put
in the same lot
where my father is.
I think they put the creation there's two cremation are in the hand
and there's a lot more than going on in
right
so if that's the
so if that's the case if for example
if if all of them has all these spots
and all of the old ones end up in one
because they're all creamy
do these go back to
on sale?
Yes.
So unless they tell them.
So we had a problem with that.
There was a man in town that died
that he bought a lot
and we were convinced
he was buried there.
But then somebody was saying
that they were actually buried there.
Their spouse was buried there.
And it wasn't the same person.
So I had to call
the widow a other person
and ask him, he wasn't
actually buried there.
This is what happened when he asked questions.
Yeah, we've had a lot of those issues.
Misplaced people.
Correct.
Oh, my God.
Is it into trouble there?
They can sell lots.
People do sell, we get that a lot.
They sell their lot back.
They get 90%.
And then we can sell.
But you can't force it.
We can't.
Most of the time I called on it.
But just out of curiosity,
if
tragically
the oldest of them all went at the same time,
and they all decided to get
into one.
went to those lots
gone forever?
Yeah.
Unless they sell them back, yeah.
But they can because they're not here.
Or over a, or doing what I'm doing with,
over and they're
a lot of, yeah.
It's a hundred years.
Add in the paper,
which I've already done to the
have a lot.
Mm-hmm.
And you went out there to
be plain these?
No.
No.
They don't just have to go through the
crop.
Correct.
It's a very deeded up
parcel of land.
So let's,
Let's explore this.
Yeah, I agree.
I mean, that helps solve it
without losing the lots.
Mm-hmm.
When was the cemetery?
was the cemetery developed.
was the cemetery developed?
We know?
The whole one that opens them bigger.
The engineers
and I think it was bigger than this.
I know what they confessed in this.
It's got to be some time.
The 287 that I remember
when he wasn't doing it.
I think it is early 90s, I think.
I think it is.
What are we need to do?
walk there.
Can you get a pleasant walk like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
So, let's see if
Mr. Olson or anybody else
out there wants to do that.
It's straight.
It doesn't impact anybody.
We get 73 months back.
And no.
And we still have access.
Well, I think we've got to get somebody in the air
with a transom and figure out where the transom
and figure out where
this really is on both sides.
We've measured, when they lay the cemetery out, see all these markers here.
We put iron and over here.
We can find one that says A, B.
Okay.
So that's what we've used to mark.
We're pretty sure that we've marked this correctly.
Okay.
So I think we can mark that based on.
To do that.
Yeah.
I see what the numbers are because.
You know, did Rachel know about this proposal?
Because we didn't know what they were about it.
A year ago, we were more of talking about this.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm saying in this,
when this elevated way, okay, to, to some kids.
Because Stephanie has been saying,
you know, I know, I know.
Okay.
This came up primarily because I was here with Stephanie trying to do things together
and Rachel left.
I, you know.
So I'll speak for the board.
I never, I never knew anything about this.
And I know when I asked Tracy about it, she said, yeah, well, it's been on the,
it's been on the wish list for a while, but it didn't come up in the budgetary.
Am I right?
This didn't come up as far as the budget goes.
When she said, let me work on it,
Rachel says the best way to get on her to leave a rescue to do it.
that first, and while we're at it,
add in.
Okay.
So would we even need another RFD to do it for?
Can you just ask Moleson to change it?
Ask them to, well, I don't know.
Let's see what the number is.
Yeah, no, burial.
We don't have any burial.
My suggestion would be that we find out what the walkways are going to revisit this.
Do you agree?
We don't have a lot of questions?
Absolutely.
But we don't have the area.
We need somebody who's packed.
Is this yours, Wendy's?
All right.
So, I think we're going to look at the walkway and see what we're going to look at that number is.
Wendy, I'll put you on it.
Okay.
All right, we're back, we're back, folks.
Our secret discussions of cemeteries is over.
And you're all going to be happy with our decision one way or another.
Anyway, I think what we're going to do here is, Wendy, we're going to put it on you
because that's what commissions are here for.
Anybody in the cemetery commission deserves to get punished with more work.
but if you would, would you check and see, get Troy and have him go up and walk that
and just say it's a three-foot thing.
He's going to cut the sod and put down some sort of reasonable walkway and see what that number might be
and get back to us on it and we'll look at it because we can retain the 73 lots, folks.
What we're trying to do is not lose the lots at the same time and create some access.
So we'll try to do both of those things, and we'll table it for now, and we will return to this subject.
And we'll send out a notice because you'll all want to be here for it.
And that makes sense, Wendy?
That does.
Okay.
All right.
So we'll try to get that.
The gentleman, you agree?
Yep.
Okay.
Whatever you want.
So we have a process where they come to Stephanie.
They choose off the map, their lot.
Then what do we need?
Confirmation from the funeral home or from the people who were actually doing the burial that that person went into that spot?
Yeah.
I was going to explain the section wrong because it's very important.
He's our paid cemetery, Sexton.
And so the funeral home contacts him for a burial.
He goes out, he has measurements, he figures out where, meets the.
funeral home there, figures out where the, you know, the burials is going.
This is Presently Woody, right?
Mm-hmm.
This is Woody.
Yes, Woody.
And then he comes to our monthly cemetery trustee meetings, and always on the agenda is for him
to report to us if there's been any burials.
Now, going back before my time, in that back room, when Westview, which is the most recent
burials, was a private association cemetery, not the towns.
There was a notebook.
this fat back there, and whoever was in charge of that,
used to put records of the burials by newspaper clippings.
So we have some records in there that I've gone, had to come back and look sometimes
to see if somebody's buried there.
But it's not really official.
And then when that got turned over to the town years ago,
that sort of record-keeping stopped.
So the funeral home, I know they can probe, they can figure out, you know,
Woody knows a lot.
Our sexton knows a lot about who's buried where, because he's been around for a long time.
So sometimes he knows so-and-so is in there and cremated and whatever.
So we're relying on his memory.
But I think it would be great to put it all.
Yes.
When I first started, our record was Georgianna Swain, was our old Sexton.
Yeah.
And she walked through every cemetery and looked on every gravestone and rode down
everybody's name, birthday, death date, and everything she knew.
And it was in a paper notebook that lived in her car.
So when I became, I said, what's going to happen if you lose those records?
So she had just started figuring out how to do a spreadsheet.
So we got it on to spreadsheets, which we still have.
But then we had a lot of requests, people coming in for genealogy.
They were coming to the library.
I created maps based on her work, and those were in the library.
But then we now pay.
only $120 a year for Cripkeeper, which is, we've moved all that data that originally was in that notebook of Georgianna's onto this online database.
Now, this database has a place where we can put burials in.
We just have not had the time or done it.
But we could start, that would be the next step, which I agree.
It would be good from this time forward because then we know if there's some question,
it happened before July of 26, you know, and we'll, you know, when.
whatever we can do beyond that.
So, well, so get back to us when Troy's had a chance to look at it and see what we might be able to do there.
The walkway, which is part of the original plan, makes sense to me.
Thank you.
Okay.
Recreation Commission appointment.
Yes, this lady, this young lady came in a few weeks back.
She checked off different committees that she was interested in serving on.
I did hear.
back from Rec Commission and so I would like to do if the board would appoint her.
My name is Fiona McLaughlin, or Cofflin, I'm sorry, Fiona, I should probably have my glasses on.
Okay, we entertain a motion of seeing Fiona on the
cemetery, excuse me, Recreation Commission?
Correct.
All those in favor?
Aye.
Thank you.
Okay.
The goal, a fairly extensive feast.
schedule here of all the fees we charge when you're doing something in town here. And I went through it.
I know we updated some fees down at the dump, but is there any, is there anything glaring out from anybody who has information about our fee structure that, or any of the board here that,
want to deal with this, should be higher.
I suspect none of them should be lower.
I did want to, you know, while, I did want to, while we're here, and we're talking about fees and so forth,
I did want to address something that has come to my attention with regards to recycle.
We put a new, it's actually a new old flyer on the website, and I think people are confused about, you know,
some people seem to be confused about cardboard collection.
So nothing has changed in cardboard collection in this town.
In fact, the number is so low, we're lucky we're out of the business.
Because it was $18 a ton last time I checked.
So we get out of that business, and I know some people were asking, you know, what do we get out of that?
Well, just so, before we became selectmen, we didn't know much, but since we've become selectmen,
we're experts on trash and only because you have to be because it's an enormous expense.
And cardboard constitutes 55% of the weight bill.
So every time you take a piece of cardboard and putting it down to the dump
or put it out to the curb, appropriately out to the curb, I might add,
because some people are putting out boxes, and that's not what the agreement is.
You're supposed to bundle it.
tie it. It's supposed to be
no wider than 24
inches, I think.
And so we've got, and I
I'm driving through town on Friday, I see
it, and I go, you know, the guy shouldn't pick this
up because they don't have time to break down
cardboard on their run.
So it's a convenience
to put it out there, but you have to do
a little bit of work. And if
you don't have the time to do that, you
can do it later on, take it down to
the dump and put it in the two cardboard slots
down there. I think it's a
very functional thing.
And every time you do that, 55%
of that weight is not being charged
to the town. We're saving money.
A lot of it.
So if you save a little more than
half your
bill as a town,
then you're really saving.
So I hope people can get
there. I had
some people who were concerned about recycling.
You know, we didn't take bottles for a while
because nobody wanted to
break up glass and all that. So
you know, we're back to exactly what the
flyer says about what
the numbers are in the recycling bottles,
plastic, what's acceptable.
There's no such thing as a clean pizza box.
I mean, these are all things that we
kind of learn that, you know, that's going to end up
in the trash no matter what. It's going to be
handled by two more guys on the line.
It's going to cost us more money.
So what we need
to do is have people pay attention to the rules
that are listed there. And
then we have a lot less controversy
on the Internet or anywhere else.
where people don't understand
exactly why their piece of
cardboard didn't get picked up
and somebody else's piece of cardboard
did, and it's because they did
the right procedure
along the way.
And I think that's
appropriate. So
when we start to talk about fees,
one of the biggest fees we have in town
are trash
and recycling.
So as we look at the fee schedule
here for all kinds of other things,
permits and the like. Just be aware
that that's the, and you can go
to the website and see the
what is really an old
flyer that's been updated
with some of the newest things that we are
dealing with on recycling.
Did you guys see
anything that you wanted to address
on the... Well, on the point of the cardboard,
also people can
go to the brush dump with
cardboard and put it in the containers
that are available 24
7. So you can either
bring it out to the curb
bundled correctly or
bring it to the brush dump any time you want
and put it into the slot
and so you have two mechanisms to do
it. And that seemed to be
lost in the communications
down on social media.
Yeah. Right.
So the fee schedule
I sent out to all the department heads
and they've all reviewed it and given me
back their feedback. So they've done that research
so the fees on there are
what they would like them to be.
So we're appropriate.
Yes, we are.
We had done some updates as far as
it was costing us more money
before engineering year to send out
stuff through the planning board than we were getting
back. So we did some of that
as a planning board I think two years
ago now. So we should be within the
realm of...
Okay, well, it's good to review
that because
you know,
you can get behind the
eight ball and that stuff.
And it costs more money for the town to deal with it.
For Governor Ware?
That...
I think that ones that
had come through, you have waived the fees.
But I don't know
prior, for the Brazilian soccer
camp, and
there's some that before I started,
I'm not sure if the board collected the fees, or
collected the fees on
those ones or not.
Yeah.
But...
Warrior Soccer Club?
I don't know the answer to that.
I can ask.
We'll ask Tammy.
There must have been something.
It'll be something on record for that.
Collecting or maybe waving.
Yeah.
The fee schedule that you have is up to date,
but I will verify with
Warrior Soccer Club
and anybody else who uses Governor Ware
on our fees for Governor Ware.
But the ones that you do have in front of you
should be accurate.
Okay.
House Bill update, H.B. 1491 and H.B. 340.
Yes.
I received an email from, I included in your packets from N.HMA.
And the 491, House Bill 491, is the resolution.
That's about the risk pools.
Last year, they, health trust was potentially going to back out because they were going to,
if there was excess costs, they were going to spread it amongst the municipalities that
most municipalities are part of health trust.
This is just basically protecting this House bill, from what I can tell,
is protecting towns from any assessments that they would, you know,
they would get that extra cost added that assessment.
So there is a resolution that was included.
It's really up to the board if you want me to send it up to the governor or not.
I can insert the town's name.
I think we should follow the lead.
I personally think we should follow the lead that HMA has sent us.
Yep.
And then the Houseville 340 is about election airing.
This clearly happened in a town.
That's why this House bill probably came about.
It's about employees election airing, giving out.
And I am, my experience, I've never seen this.
But you need to be careful about even like Warren Apples that employees have to stay neutral.
Or apparently they can get a penalty of $1,000.
So that is the NHMA is saying don't support this.
And they also, I added.
the sample letter to that, to your packet as well.
So I don't know if you want me to send that up to the governor as well.
That's the slippery slope because you have a recommendation.
Yeah.
I've read both bills.
Okay.
Now, have we gotten anything on the tax cap?
I have not.
No, why.
The town didn't adopt.
Because there's a tax cap.
I'm not sure if the governor has signed it or not yet.
Okay.
Up for signature.
We're.
towns are going to have to have a vote at the November election this year.
Okay.
And again, in 2028, to have a tax cap that would set a limit on how high the school budget can go.
Oh, okay.
All right.
And how much administrative costs can go.
I can look into that for you because I'm familiar with one of my prior towns.
But that's something we have to follow to just see where we're at.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yep.
I can look into that.
Anything else?
No, those are just the two.
that I had on that.
So if the board supports that, I'll send those up.
Library trustees, request for funds from the library trustees.
Yep.
That sent me an email, just requesting the interest from the trust fund.
So this is just requesting the interest.
I can review her email if you want.
You have one or two.
Would you like me?
Yeah.
Okay.
It says New Hampshire RSA 202-A-22 requires the library to take payment income from trust funds.
managed for the library by the trustees of the trust fund each year.
Attached as a request for these earnings as stated in the MS-9.
Also included on the minutes with the library trustees motion to request the funds highlighted in yellow.
And would you please add this?
Well, she had me to the agenda, but yes.
So the board apparently reproves this.
It's just the interest on what's in their account.
Yeah.
For Gione, Exeter Road treasure for the library.
I'm not, because we're the agency to do.
to expand on that account.
I'm not sure if it needs to come to you in future, but now that I'm on the trustees of the trust funds board,
I'm trying to clarify which of these requests have to come to the BOS for approval in which you don't.
So since I sit on both boards for the sake of transparency, I'm bringing it to you because, you know,
I don't want any questions.
But I'm not sure that if an organization is an agent to expend, if they need to bring it to you or not,
and I'm hoping that you can answer that question.
don't think you do no that's when I saw I was talking with a resident about this the
other day because you are an agent to expend I think you can just request that
interest yeah so the board was probably I don't know if you've approved this before
so we have yeah you haven't so yeah well that's that's why I had a question because
that's okay I won't be bringing you any more of these if you can do that you can do
that the agent to expand right and I'll save you that time yeah so then you know that helps
fill on our agenda though
which is nice excuse me I'm sorry I didn't hear that it helps to fill out our agenda
oh you can't always be about cemeteries you know before we move on Kim I sorry can we just
jump back to the fee schedule and make a motion to approve that as of June the new
schedule as of June 2026 I just need you guys to vote on that if you would you can do
that thank you I entertain a motion for approval of the fee schedule as listed
in June month of 26th so moved
all those in favor
all right
thank you
okay
keep us straight
and the last one on the list here for new business
was a crosswalk discussion
and I don't want it to be a long discussion
but this this comes to the board
by me
as I nearly got killed the other night going
to an event over at the museum.
And
at one time
we had a crosswalk here
it was a painted
crosswalk on the road
when they paved the road the state said they
don't they don't
restore crosswalks
so it never
got done.
I'm thinking
a little bit different than
you know a painting
crosswalk which nobody can see
anyway.
And there were
any number of people
that have spoken to me over time
about trying to attend events
and parking here
because the parking's available
and then crossing the road
which is on a little bit of the hill
and a curve
and people seem to be going
plenty fast enough
either coming down off the bridge or coming this way
and you might not make it.
So
I was exploring
what we
need to do and whether the board
thought it was a good idea.
The change of the dynamic
of where Drinkwater Road
meets the state's
obligation on 88.
And there is a triangular piece
of tire out there that
nobody ever honors
because they drive right through it.
And so people kind of go there
to skip over to get to the
event they're going to
and it's a long
skip if you're
not as agile as you once were
and
my thought
is that we need to do something
to restrict
the access across it
and the speed of which
people access both
Drink Water Road and 88
coming off a drink water road.
So
I was
my thought was that
we could
do something by creating a triangular
garden out there, something that will
prevent
the cross traffic that
takes place and then
incorporate some sort of crosswalk
scenario and I don't know what the best
one is. The ones that drive
me crazy, the ones that light up when somebody gets
to the line, you know, and I'm
not sure when they stay
lit and the guy's already in his car leaving
and, you know, so I'm not sure about those,
but we've got to do something
or we're going to have a problem out here.
And I started
teaching in the
1970s at Winter County High School.
And this is why it comes to me in my head.
The other night, I had a
complete flashback to it.
Had a girl
in my home room
in room 10 that
lived down on
High Street.
There was no crosswalk there.
Mark, you might remember this.
She was in my classroom, a nice kid.
And people talked
about it, talked about it, talked about it, and talked about it,
and they never did anything down to five corners.
Refused to put the crosswalk in.
She was killed.
Then they put the crosswalk in.
So,
just because of my own
homeroom attendance
necessity,
and the reality of that
40-some years ago, I'm
bothered by this.
I was bothered the other night. It's not the first
time I've dealt with it. And
I have some ideas, but I just wonder
if people here think
it's worthy of trying to do
something. People want to access this parking
lot, you can't get to the event.
And I think
it's a concern
probably for the library, too, going up drink water.
I completely agree.
I've seen the same problem
trying to cross there.
And nobody
is coming slow.
If somebody gets hit,
they're in deep trouble.
So
I look, part
of the problem is when they're coming off
88 and you're turning less on drink water
because it's so
why.
and because there's really no definitive
road, you do tend to
go right over the triangle
that you're referring to.
And because it's so wide,
you can go pretty fast over that.
You know, if there was a
triangle, you can correct me
if you think I'm wrong, but if there's a triangle
there and you're forced to go
into a... Inside of it.
A real left. Yeah.
You know, then you're kind of slowing way down
on 88 and you're taking your left
in the same way to go
out on ADA, so I think it's a reasonable thing to do.
And I think the other benefit from it,
the benefit that is not a
life-saving benefit, but it also creates
a much nicer vote out of that, especially
in the regard that you keep up with and it's got, you know, a nice...
It's right on the point out here, so we can take a look at that.
He's a triangle.
And I don't know, maybe Russ can get some ideas about
taking the tire out of the air and elevating,
having a little bit of a curb scenario
so that we have a garden in that, like we do at the end of the common down here,
where you're coming out of Lincoln Aikman,
but you have to go around the thing to get,
and it keeps everybody from going too fast in that area
because they see that and they know they can't make that corner.
So this here is,
and I want it to be raised
because there's no sense in having
you know, the flat
the flat crosswalk we had
in front of the years ago here
before they paid 88 again
it didn't do anything.
I mean, we saw it as a crosswalk. The person
hitting you would see that it's a crosswalk
after they've already hit you, I think.
So, you know, the reality of
raising that up and making that
be a barrier
of sorts from people
doing that. And you're right.
Yeah.
The guidance scenario is a, but I'm trying to make it,
we've got such nice plantings out front here,
try to have that access it as well.
So I'd like to ask Russ to kind of explore that
and see what he thinks it might be.
And maybe we don't have the money to do it,
but I'd get on my horse to raise some money
to try to get it done just because I have flashbacks of
home room and room 10.
I would think that would
be a good project for the joint loss committee
maybe and then they could bring it to the
CIP and then it
could get funded that way possibly.
And also a quick fix
if you wanted to paint it,
reflective paint. I mean, I know had in other towns
we've had issues like this and reflective
paint maybe.
And how about those retangular
signs? Yeah, but they use
just the rectangular ones that you put out by the
cross wall that they use. They use
them of a Phillips Exeter and
places like that.
I mean to get people's attention before they go further
right. But I
definitely think we need one. The other
place is I'm not sure what the status. Is there one by
Governor Rear going across? No.
No. No. That's a problem
too. I mean,
people parking a long 88
for games. I worry.
I worry about
Governor Weir, especially in the fall
and their kids are down there. And there's tons of kids there. And there's tons of
people coming here to Apple Grove.
Yes. So if we do them, maybe we could do both.
Now, I don't know if it's within our purview
to put a crosswalk on 88.
Yeah, it's a state road.
State road? Yeah.
But, I mean, I think that there should be one here
and there should be one by Governor Ware.
I know I asked about this
when I first got on the board nine years ago
because the crosswalk
was on the ground out there
and it was somewhere out in this area.
And then there
There was no place to walk and they got to the other side.
So I think it should be further down
if we're going to do something and use access
to that. But whatever the case might
be, the DOT.
Yeah. I can reach out. Oh, they didn't know.
They weren't helpful.
Russ has had better
feelings with DOT.
And I think Mark has, too, based
on the coffee shop, on
some other things in town, that they responded
a little faster. So if we could
just put a request out,
I don't know. Maybe it's something we can't do, but we
try to do something. Maybe we should ask for forgiveness
after we do it.
Agreed.
I don't know how in the state we argue
that it's a bad idea.
I don't think they would.
I just don't, they probably have some policy.
Because you would think there would be
one that governor would wear without a west gun.
That's a heavily used
spot there. Here is less
heavy, but there, my God.
The kids are crossing left and right, coming from
Lincoln Incerman, coming from the cars.
I mean, it's a bad spot.
That place should have, it should probably
have those flashing signs. They are.
Right.
Okay.
Okay. That's my
feel for the day.
What's in?
No. Nobody's
waited all morning.
No. So it's had to
change in the rules now, Bill.
Oh, sorry.
Beverly Mutry again.
I do use
the parking lot here.
the town hall to get to the museum.
And I've always wondered
why the town
does not have an
extenuation of that nice
brick walkway that goes
from the parking lot
and goes at the front door here
and why it couldn't go
to keep going to the curve.
Is there any
reason why
do you want us to walk in the road
rather than on us, like
a nice path?
Well, I didn't put the brick walkway in,
and I don't want you to walk in the road.
I know those two things.
The point is, the point is,
why couldn't we do that as well?
Yes.
Yes.
That's the point.
We could try to incorporate something
that makes it easier for people,
especially as we get to snow time.
Exactly.
Nobody can, and I've climbed
climbed over the snow banks myself.
Yeah.
Because you're right.
We're all getting older.
Thank you.
Well, the town clerk is on our list.
So, delegation of
deposit authority.
And then
I found it very interesting
to read about every dog
that's had their rabies up to date.
So thank
or not, thank you for that.
Is there something you want to say about that
other than we've got a list of
of dirty dogs
in town that have to be
taken care of?
Like we have them.
Yeah.
Okay.
You don't need our permission to do that.
Here you are.
You have to sign the warrant.
We'll sign the warrant.
I don't think there's any question.
We want these people locked up.
I'm not on that.
We'll start with you.
I always check this one.
There's that dog over there.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
And then we have an intent to cut.
Map 5.
So I'll make a motion that we
sign the warrant for the dog scenario.
Somebody want to second it?
Second.
All those.
favor? Aye. Okay.
So we'll sign that and get that to you.
Intent to cut on the
Map 5, lot 44, 9,
top, and lane.
It's the same thing.
All right.
So, motion to approve
the intent to cut on Map 5,
lot 44, 9, top, and lane.
So moved.
All those in favor?
Aye.
And then we have abatements,
and these abatements are
Map 6, Lot 03
$0.39.0.039 for $0.039 for $0.3 for $19. Map 6 lot 039-C-3 for $41.
And map 6 lot, 039-C, just $6A for $33.3 for $33.
Motion to approve those abatements as noted.
So moved.
All those in favor?
All right.
All right.
Are those up to the...
Okay.
Okay.
Is there something we're doing wrong that we can't get those straightened out?
Okay.
Oh, somebody should take a note that we should take a note, right?
All right.
Any other Selectman's new business?
I'm hearing no.
And any any calls?
comment from the public that hasn't already commented today.
Oh, you've commented.
Go ahead.
What time is the ribbon of the time.
Okay.
And are we opening up.
And are we opening before 11?
Or is it?
No, but I'm saying, are we opening the festivities before that?
Or is that just when we're going to do it?
11 to 5th.
It's scheduled for 11 to 1.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
Everybody got that.
11 to 1.
Thank you.
The review and approval of previous meeting minutes.
Uh-oh.
You have another.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Good today.
Beverly Mutry.
Again, I wonder if there's any further information about the Heritage Commission's request for
for frying pan lane funds do you need any more information from me have you
thought about it anymore what's what's the next step I think we were going to do a
work session with regards to all this stuff and we haven't scheduled that yet am I
right that totally doing okay so we haven't done any right which also included
Wendy's thing and like so so you'll let me know when that's schedule we're going to have
it'll be listed like it within the meeting like maybe
be beforehand or after or so you don't have to or do you want to do it on a different day
what do you want to do that's a good question you could do a zoom meeting
okay I'm happy it's going to be kind of hard it's up to the board yeah yeah that's what
I was maybe after or before I mean entirely because then you're already here so if we have all
information prior to the next meeting in July yep we could start a half hour
earlier okay right and or to say half hour later yeah yeah we want to do that
instead of the 7 30s yeah I'm up okay and it's just to review
outstanding frying yep okay and it's just so there's your answer the end of the
meeting of July 15 that's just to review your outstanding
family yeah yeah so the selectman's public meeting minutes of 521 26
and selectman's non-public meeting minutes of 56 26 and 526 and 521 26
and people take a look at those yep all right is there a motion I'll make a motion to
accept those two public meeting minutes and the non-public meeting minutes
okay duly second and all those in favor all right okay okay
we want to go into non-public here for a short spin today I'll make a motion
go into non-public all those in favor aye thank you for coming I want new chairs
tough they're tough