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I hope that I want to tell?
Yeah, we got it.
I just came on that.
I want to remind everybody, June 26,
we're having our 250th celebration,
the parade, fireworks, food,
all kinds of fun games we're common.
And I hope we get a ton of people to come out to it
because it is the birthday of our great country.
I hope everyone shows up.
This Friday, June 26.
It's good last.
That's starting at 5 o'clock.
Second announcement I have, I found this on Facebook.
I hadn't had a chance to talk to Chief Foss about it yet.
So I'm going to figure it up.
It's a training tool that they would like to purchase,
and they're looking for private donations for it
because it is approximately $10,000.
And it's the Ridge Firefighters Association
is seeking your support to purchase a forcible entry training door,
a critical piece of training equipment
that will strengthen the skills and preparedness of our fighters for years to come.
firefighters are used to find it.
Forcible entry is one of the most important tasks
firefighters perform on the fire ground.
Whether responding to a structure fire,
rescue occupants, or accessing a building during an emergency,
firefighters must be able to gain entry quickly, safely,
and effectively.
These skills require continual hands-on training to maintain efficiency.
As a small community,
a company specialized training equipment can be challenging.
Professional-grade, forcible entry training props
and cost more than $10,000 places them during the reach of many department budgets.
With your help, we can bring us invaluable training resource to Ritzers.
This training prop will provide realistic, repeatable training opportunities for generations of firefighters.
It will allow our members to practice essential, forcible, entry techniques in a controlled environment,
helping ensure that they are prepared in our residents need them the most.
So if you are interested, reach up to the fire department, they have a, to discuss a
donation of sponsor-sick opportunity. Please contact firefighters Sean McLaughlin.
It's 781-603-8093. I think it would be great that you can get enough
of a donation. I talked to the Greenville Fire Chief today, who I work with. And he said it's a great
training tool that they actually have former firefighters that buy these things and they actually
put them on trails and go to surf all fire departments and have training with them.
It's that you can actually have maybe other departments train with this and maybe it might be a way to
maybe pay back some of us to pay some of us off too.
So it's a great training tool for what I was told.
So I just wanted to mention that.
And what was the third thing?
Oh, the gravestones at the town cemetery, the town cemetery, the meeting house cemetery,
they've been 21 stones repaired.
That's the great news.
The guy showed up.
I knew he was coming.
I just didn't know when.
And next thing I'll get an invoice.
And I'm like,
did you already come? I have an invoice already.
And he goes, he already came already fixed him.
It's just less than two weeks when we contacted him and get out here and fix him.
And I'm like, I wish I would know you were here.
A couple days later, I get a message stating that the one stone that started all this,
which was a Lisa Blake.
That was a stone that was the first one that needed to be repaired.
And then when we found all the others, that's the one stone that didn't get repaired.
So, and it's not difficult.
If I knew he was coming,
could have got out of the weather and made sure that he knows.
So he's willing to hopefully get back here next week and get that cell fixed.
So that's nice because it's going to be ahead of the Fourth of July celebration.
So that's all I have.
Bob, you have anything?
Tom?
I have nothing.
Beautiful day.
All right.
26th is Friday.
26th is Friday.
All right.
All right.
On to the approval of payroll.
for 611, 2026 and 618, 2026?
Have you guys had a chance to look at them?
Okay.
I'd like to make a motion to approve the payroll for 611, 2026 and 618, 2020, 6.
I'll second the motion.
Second in by Bob.
All in favor?
Aye.
Aye.
Staying.
Novo.
Two, zero, zero.
So, Dr. Campbell, 611, 2026, and 618, 20206.
And everyone got a chance to see those.
Yeah, I think the 11th was.
The 11th was a big one, and there was a Cody issue on a couple of them.
Did those get fixed?
They'll get fixed.
They'll get some sort of alarm ordinance.
It was an alarm ordinance one.
Yeah, they'll get journal entry, but they're, Leo was aware of that.
I got some questions on that one.
It's all the evolving funds.
The one was, remind me what the...
Because you were asked about it before you did it.
And I went back and she said, it was just a description I've never seen before.
So I'm like, okay, what's this?
And it was coded to a wrong account.
Right.
But it was still a valid answer.
That's why I can clarify.
It was a general entry either way that changed.
One was right, one was.
It was, so this was the, well, there was two of them.
I talked to the, like, the $22, $2, $2,400 one.
That was for the preventative.
That was for the preventative.
You know, GFOS came to the board when he had an 18K bill, and he said, can I go?
The board said, yes, good idea.
So, but then when he went to go and do it, in this specific maintenance line, there was only
$1,500 budgeted in there.
Yeah.
So I think someone made the decision to just bounce it over to the revolving fund, if you will,
because there was only $1,500.
Now, I think GFOS has funds in his regular operating budget.
some different lines, so it could go there.
But I think just to pay the bill, they drew it out of the revolving fund because that is what had money,
but it's one of those great areas because this is the first year that we've, that we're doing it now.
Either way, it's been paid, Larry, I think, based on what I saw in the fold, this week,
there's more coming out of that, and it's making me wonder whether we even have the money in the
fund for this morning.
Is that the, is that the annual report?
Yeah, so I don't know what the number is, because I, you have to have, you have to be a,
know we've got at least $14K in it, because remember a couple, maybe about a month
or two months ago at this point, I got the opinion from the attorney about the funds from the
life safety inspections being directed into there. So we backdated that to the start of the
year. Instead of tracking back more fully, you just decided, okay, January 1st was the good
day to start. And from January 1st to March something, the department generated over $14,000 that then
to that fund, and I imagine more has accrued since March, whatever.
Very similar to what the police revolving fund is.
Right, so I know there, that, I don't know how much, but there should be.
Well, I figured that the increase is because of things like that, but I mean, I have no.
Yeah, we can find that.
It's in trouble in the dark what we have in these accounts.
I agree.
The more that we know where the balances are, there's a lot of these people we see it, Bill.
If we're going to continue with these preventative maintenance programs, which I, I think
I think you're a good idea.
Yeah.
I think we have to stop looking at maybe.
Chief Boss and I talked about that.
We're going to, in budget season, we're going to, how much ever it is this year to do it,
we're going to pretty much take that amount and then put that in a proposed maintenance line.
Because the maintenance line, the fire department was only $1,500 for whatever reason.
No, it was more?
Was it?
I don't know.
I don't think there was a maintenance line, equipment maintenance line in there.
Yeah, but I don't think there was a lot of, I don't remember.
I don't think there was a lot of, yeah.
So we'll take the projective and absolutely.
what we'll propose for this budget season.
Yeah.
But that's really up.
For this year, though, it's, I guess, technically up to the three of you, not really cheap
costs depending on where we really want the fund or whether we want to take it out of this
operate, over to the operating budget.
We have to pay it.
I think you ought to at least know what the real balance is in the account.
Yeah.
That would give us the stuff that didn't know, because if we keep taking it out of the revolving fund
when we go to the budget season, we're going to have to figure out.
how much we have to put in the equipment maintenance line.
Because it will be a track of better if it's in the operating side.
Yeah, yeah.
Even if it's good, and then running in the negative, we'll know what we're spending.
Right, I'm also fine.
Kind of a secondary number, you know.
If you asked me, actually, I would probably prefer running it for this year out of that maintenance line,
then we will be able to see exactly how much it will just be a negative.
At the end of the year, obviously, we'll cover it from overage elsewhere in it.
not by decision.
Yeah, because I'm sure we can remove money from the revolving.
Yeah.
This is just...
This is a simple report.
It's a single page.
In fact.
Simple thing, yeah.
Or single page.
Yeah.
Well, we ran into it with the Capital Reserve Fund in a truck earlier in the year.
So in June's coming to a good six-month number.
Yeah.
Sounds good.
How you...
Epstein?
Zero to get that in that.
Uh, okay, full of the minutes.
One fourteen, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty,
121, 2026, 514, 2026, 52026, and 5226, and 526.
Everyone had a chance to read this, look, these novels.
There's a lot there, but...
Yeah, I always sent through.
Pretty factual for one on the table.
All second.
All in favor?
All in favor?
Okay.
See no old business, so we're moving on to new business.
The status of abatements updated.
So we have, I believe, I believe...
I believe 14 sitting in front of us tonight.
17 maybe.
Oh, so why came in?
It was 14 earlier when I was in here earlier today.
Oh, maybe.
Let's go to Jen.
Um, sorry.
Um, I think it's like 17.
Okay, so this is you, I have more since this morning.
You're all right.
They've been starting to trickle in.
So we've got a...
A little more information out of Avatar.
I kind of get a little bit of better handle
on why this is taking so long,
although I'm scared.
I'm not happy about it.
So there's a little bit of a statement I'd like to read.
We would like to provide a brief update regarding the re-evaluation and status of pending
of payment applications.
First of our residents to know that if the assessing company is unable to act on all
abatements applications by July 1st, taxpayers do not lose their right to seek relief.
Property owners can still appeal to the Board of Tax and Land Appeals,
of ETLA, or Superior Court.
Both of these avenues exist for situations.
exist for situations just like this to ensure property owners are treated fairly and information is reviewed accurately.
I also think it's important to explain one of the processes taken longer than many of us have expected.
As work progressed on the revaluation,
it became clear that there were a number of issues with property records and assessment data
that had accumulated over the years that needed to be corrected.
For example, at least 10% of properties required additional measurement and verification.
measurement and verification work, which is a heavy lift.
Our records require review and reconciliation before values that even be finalized.
In addition, the large number of assessment changes generated a significant amount of public outreach,
follow-up reviews and additional work for the assessing company and for town staff that work on it.
To be clear, these are not issues that develop overnight.
Many of these issues being worked through today are the result of records and evaluation issues
and evaluation issues that existed long prior to the 2025 revaluation and also predated this
group of selectmen as well as our current assessing clerk.
In short, because of the need to correct some past errors, find accurate data,
and handle a large volume of public questions.
There is a delay, but it will not impact the taxpayers' ability to appeal abidments
to the two options of the ETLA or the Superior Court.
Our assessing clerk, along with town employees,
along with town employees have spent a great deal of time working through these issues to ensure the assessments are as accurate as possible.
And it is important for us to have accurate information and correct mistakes
so that everyone is treated fairly rather than to rush through the process and let errors accumulate.
And some people end up with valuations that are not fair to them or reflective of actual property values.
So that being said, I guess we get to get the work on the exercising that.
I would like to, well, I know my review, my mind is in there.
And I'd like to, if I could, so we don't have to load on them as a button, what we did before.
Well, what I have here is...
This is the last one, I think, I don't see your name on this list here.
I believe it.
You follow me.
Yep. So this is the granted fact.
So, I'm not sure how many I have there.
One, two, three.
Ten, granted.
granted. Yes, sir?
Well, there really isn't a public forum on this, but I'll,
you can go ahead and ask a question whether or not we can answer it for you.
So, I guess, do you?
Yeah, we need name is Simon Mosley.
You got that, Max?
I mean, all of the vagments are supposed to be, you know, be Will Avatar.
As it looks like right now, no.
Max, I'm going to elaborate.
That's still happy to, yeah.
As I've understand, as I now understand,
because I've been getting up to speed on the law here.
you can't sure as well. It's what I would just call a softs deadline, and that everything
will continue on after that deadline. But if you want to make sure that you have an opportunity
for you to be reviewed, my personal recommendation would be for you to file with the BTLA,
you know, pretty readily. Jen and our assessing clerk is going to be sending out letters
to everyone so that way they know that if your debate isn't one that comes in the next under two weeks
at this point.
It's kind of reiterate what Larry said in terms of your options, but the process is going to continue
afterwards.
Yes.
July 1st, there is no deadline, actually, for granting abatements.
The July 1st is for a courtesy to somebody that's applied for one, to say that you assume
it's thinking that.
I don't understand.
There's no deadline.
that they have to be reviewed.
It says, to the taxpayer, assume it's been denied if you haven't gotten an answer, and then appeal to the
BTOA or Superior Court.
But it costs money to do that. You have until September 15th to do that, so I would recommend
waiting until August 1st or August 15th to do the appeal and send the mind, because you might
get an answer before. There were abatements that were approved in September last year.
So there is not a deadline that they have to look at them. It's for the person applying for the abatement
to assume it's been denied.
Okay. It gives for...
That's what the law says.
No, I know we need such, but...
The ends right now, we're not really sure when the outtask is going to have a law completed.
So there is a possibility that they complete you on, say, like, the end of July,
and all of a sudden you've been approved for an abatement, right?
I don't, that's something we don't know.
Go ahead.
If I can add.
The board of the second did ask me to really try to see if we could have the assessing company move
a little more expeditiously, and so I did reach out with them.
It did have some impact because I noticed that some of the abatements,
especially the ones that we have now in front of us,
we're not just reviewed by Monique, who you're familiar with,
but also one of the co-seatsy.
CEOs of the firm has now tried to, has bid on some of these events to try to alleviate the
backlog of these. In terms of what Roberta said, what I was saying, it's kind of a individual
risk profile. If you want to wait, it's true. What Roberta said, you know, it could conceivably
be reviewed as they kind of alleviate the backlog. Someone that might want to get up and out in front
of it sooner might want to file with the VTLA now, but that might just be wasted your efforts.
It just depends if you want to get up and operationalize yourself sooner or just kind of wait for us
an avatar to get to the back home.
And you don't get a refund.
Right, yes.
The client is that you also, once you file, it appears that then you can contact Avatar
in the town. So as of July 2nd, people can start contacting
the town with that.
No, you contact BTLA.
BTLA will respond.
They send back a request to the town to submit
the information, the whole file,
and then the town is told to try to reach out to you.
to settle, but that takes six weeks.
BTLA is like two years behind.
You know, I understand that now.
But you have until September to file, you know, with BTLA, you know, so I spend the $65.
Well, I guess we're not being treated fairly out.
All right, let's stop. Let's stop it back and forth.
And how many outstanding evasance do you have?
Only about a hundred, like, with these 17 now, probably around 143?
We have, there's 228, we were in 65.
So those all approved, winner?
These are all grants.
There's all.
So, map 17, lot 36.
Map 27, lot four.
Map 3, lot 3, lot 3, sublop 1.
Map 9, lot 7, sublop 3, dash 2.
Map 8, lot 7, sublop 3 dash 2.
59, dash T, 0,008, map 14,
lot 14, map 37,
lot 7, map 2, lot 59, dash T 0062,
map 10, lot 4, sub lot 7A,
and mat 26, lot 4.
These are the ones that are being granted.
So I make a motion that we grant
all of these plots that I just noted.
I'll second up.
The abatement with granting and abatement.
I will second.
All in favor?
17 there?
No, there's 17 altogether, because in this pile of this.
You just have sent it on.
You're going to send them all over us, sir.
You're going to send letters out for these.
I was already signing, so it's just as you signed it.
Look for it.
You know, the team's office again today.
File about complaint.
I get to look me up and they said, oh yeah.
You said, oh yeah.
These additional words match are the ones that we looked over the other day.
This one we've already granted the approval.
You've looked over, I think, all of them.
Some of them just played yesterday.
And then Jen very quickly turned them over.
Yeah.
How are we doing this second punch?
Do we have to separate out the one who,
do we have to separate Tom's out?
Do you have to separate Tom's out?
This is, uh,
is Map 8, lot, 24, lot 1, sub-watt-1.
All the few ones.
Do you want to speak to order?
Are you there?
Only one place to sign on that one?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All this paperwork back at Knox are in with a
is.
We'll go back from one.
So we'll make a motion for all of them.
Make a motion to deny
Map 8, lot 24 sub-lot 1.
Make a motion that we deny
map 2, lot of lot of 1.
Map 2, lot 59-t024,
Map 6, lot 49-a,
Map 17, lot 15,
Map 6, lot 19, sub lot 1,
22, lot 8, and map 22 lot 9.
6.4?
Yeah.
I'll make the motion.
Second?
Second one together.
All in favor?
Motion, Tom.
Me second.
second.
31 calls requesting the board to accept a $100 donation from Tegarility and memory of Bob Knight
and a $300 donation from Mark Wildrenner, also in memory of Bob Knight.
I'll make a motion that we approve the
anticipated revenue donations of $100 and $300
for the police department.
All in favor?
All in favor?
All in a row.
funds from cemetery trustees pursuant to my RSA 31 colon?
I think we had to do that via acceptance, right?
Or no?
I know in two weeks we're bringing the other one.
Right.
Right.
This one doesn't have to be.
It doesn't have to be public.
Oh.
But it doesn't have to be in public here.
They just have to accept it.
But I don't think the check has come yet.
Actually, I think we did finally get it.
There was a third check for 3,000 and change.
Nope.
That came from you guys.
No.
combining what the RBA donated to it.
So we sent one check to the town of bridge,
$6,300.
It was still on my head.
That would be good.
The check I'm remembering came
around to cross my desk yesterday.
You said the $35,000.
The word for us.
Yes, the $35,000 did come.
Maybe we don't have that yet.
On the Lane's office to double check.
So are you, you're going to send a check?
It's in the middle.
It's in transit if it's not here.
Yeah.
So why don't I make a motion?
Well, that's the situation.
Well, before you do that, to your point,
I wasn't sure, I couldn't tell Connie where the check was coming from
because I wasn't sure who was, if it was a historical society or if it was...
The town should really be paid.
So we have to accept the funds from the historical society before we...
Right.
It's a right.
All in favor?
All in favor?
I was wondering what that was paying for, what that information was.
Repair of 21 gravestones in the Haiti House Cemetery.
And we missed the one that was originally started this whole thing, so we've moved out next week to do it.
Resetting, some of them, some of them were just resetting.
Some of them were actually broken.
And I say epoxy, because I'm assuming that's what he's using, I don't know he actually uses,
but he's the one that helped us at the land property.
He does amazing work, and he's fast and physician.
He came, didn't even know he came and went.
I get invoices.
for it.
You know, like, I already have your invoices.
You've already come to me.
Just, oh, I came last week.
It was less than two weeks from the time I contacted him.
This is those sake of the cemetery trustees.
Is there any way that we can get money from the professional care accounts?
I mean, the town used to get paid every year from the professional care.
And for some reason, it stopped.
Wasn't that a big discussion you had ever recently?
I thought we were...
Two different things.
One is to get it.
access to the accounts because there's hundreds of thousands of dollars in it.
But the town, the trustees used to send the town to check every year.
And for some reason it stopped.
For the interest.
Right?
No. There actually was a fee for grave.
It was 50 cents for grave.
And then it went up to a dollar.
I mean, you can see it in the whole town reports.
And I remember there was something that,
happened about maybe 10 years ago that they weren't doing it right.
But they stopped sending money to the town.
And I mean, it is for the perpetual care, which would be the maintenance and upkeep
of the headstones, even though those don't along to the town.
Those are private property.
There was a question about people paying for that perpetual care,
but not everybody did so we aren't sure what they get, what stones they got applied.
stones that got applied to, correct?
But the professional care is for the grave site.
The headstones are actually personal property.
Yeah.
I mean, they placed there with the permission of the town, obviously,
because they bought that cemetery plot.
But the town, you said it was like in, in 47 or something,
that the town started just doing everybody.
Yeah, following everybody.
Used to be they bowled just the ones for professional care.
So you would have a nice brave and then a jungle and then a nice brave.
Yeah.
But, you know, so the town, you know, started doing all of them.
But then they said, the trustees stopped sending town money.
I think we talked about that.
Someone was here in the trustees and they said they were going to look into it.
Well, Victoria's up.
Victoria, Doug and Joe.
Well, it would be the trustees of trust funds.
The cemetery trustees didn't.
trustees didn't send the money. It was the trustees of trust funds.
Okay.
Some of them from the senator.
Yeah, sent a check.
But the side-prane thing on giving, you know, that perpetual care, you know,
that perpetual care, you know, it's repurposed for,
the upkeep and maintenance of the, you know, the cemeteries make sense.
I mean, yeah.
I thought it was.
There's a key.
The update I have from Victoria on that is there's a key.
We, we passed.
the first threshold or whatever, because our attorney was actually working on this for some other town,
using that as a litmus test before we went diving into it.
And now, past the first problem hurdle.
You can't get back to us once.
Exactly.
And so we're favorable.
And now there's some other deadline in mid to late July.
And then we'll know even further.
I think if they win that case, then it kind of goes to go for everybody.
Because we signed on now at this point.
And then the cost of that is going to be dispersed, which is good for us.
All right.
on the new business update on staffing and configuration of the range assessing clerk has to do with the time and hours and everything.
So if you want to speak to that, Max.
Sure.
I was talking with Jen about how to kind of make things a little more efficient down there, especially because I think we under budgeted the time or hours during.
What we probably should have done was increased Jen's hours during the assessing clerk's hours during a revaluation year.
And so we were talking about how to maybe
make things a little more efficient. And so I talked to a couple other town administrators,
and then I talked to Avatar as well to see what they saw in other towns,
and basically what everyone seems to do is some of Jen's hours are now going to be non-public hours,
so that way she can do head down work and actually get through that work, so that way she hits
deadlines and gets stuff out on time. Because the way it is right now, there's a constant
flow of people in there, and that can be disruptive to your workflow flow, and then it makes things
is less efficient, so we're going to change some of your hours.
We'll repost it on the website as well, so that we're working on that, so that way there's some
strict, just desk, non-public hours, but then we'll still have plenty of hours available to the
public for the, in the walk-ins, the phone calls, and that sort of stuff.
It's just a small update on that.
We think it'll probably help the phone on non-public hours.
I think it's also in the callbacks, too, but yeah.
So I'm not sure it's a voting thing, I don't know, but that was kind of what we talked through
and thought it might help things a little bit.
Well, and I think this brings up, like, even a bigger problem with the whole, I know people
just will walk in on you and just in the middle of the day, and you're trying to get work done
and actually, you know, you get somebody in there sitting in their office for an hour, right,
just a citizen.
Yeah.
And I really think that they're, I know all the town halls are starting to do, I know Swansea,
I've talked to Slackman over there, and they're starting to basically, basically, if you need,
to talk to the town administrator, you call for the appointment, and you get an appointment.
Just, there's just walking in on an else, right, and walking right through the door,
it says no admittance and all this stuff, and they just walk right through and they sit in your office
and you're trying to get work done.
I think it would make your life easier and a little bit more efficient.
We had some sort of a system set up like that at some point where you've got to come in and talk
to somebody, you should probably have an appointment to do so.
Well, we had Friday to catch up on partial days or something.
Right.
Most people I haven't even hear on Friday.
Especially when you're working on numbers, like, talking with the new finance staff person, too.
Like, when you're working on numbers, the disruptions could be more impactful.
In fact, I wonder if maybe that's why mistakes were happening before, maybe even, so.
I don't disagree with you, Larry.
I think some of that has to be from the front window, so to speak, saying, you know, it's tied up right now.
screening, and it's not just office or Max's office, it's every other office in the same way.
I mean, you know, tax collect.
and in China, you know.
But they're open to bring them around.
Right, they have ruined all the walk-up.
I can start doing some research on that he's doing, so I can reach out to some other towns.
They kind of put the chain in the hallway and it stopped them right here.
Yeah, there's someone to, like, Steve you and Jeffrey and was over there meeting with the town.
So I can do some research and work back around the kind of it.
I'm walking the door then to this issue.
So this they should be up there.
Yeah, yeah.
Door, that's a good point.
I'm just saying the website, the door you're right.
She knows more than what her efficiency.
Okay, well, I'll settle it out.
Thank you.
In the official business, I'm a citizen's farm, so I'll remind everybody you can keep citizens' farm to a minute.
Inver against her main street, one thing you missed them to selectance in announcements, the breakfast at the fire station.
You're right.
Friday's day.
Well, Saturday, the 20th.
Oh, I thought it was private.
Oh, maybe it is title.
problems being.
Yeah, I used to sit from nine, on the 20th.
Yeah, I kept looking at the calendar, too.
I'm pretty sure it's the 20th.
I think he is doing it on Saturday.
I think you're right.
Saturday from 9 to 1.
Yeah, they're selling raffle tickets.
There was also another thing that they had guaranteed to us that the data would transfer
from vision to the lot of issues.
You know, they could say all this, you know, stuff is over, but a lot of it happens because
the two systems.
The other thing is.
I know that Adam said that you, you know, if you don't go with their records, they won't support.
And I think that comes back to last year when they were actually giving legal advice on some of the
abatements, and we went to an attorney.
They are not attorneys.
So some of these abatements, I know, are based on law.
And they're going to be not, after it's not going to be representing the town in this period.
So looking at some of them, you know, and making judgment calls, maybe BTLA,
They're going to be for it.
So it's going to be costly.
I did look it out.
It is June 20th.
It is 9 to 11.
What did you have some?
Yeah, the only two things.
You said we're converted to Avatar.
Let's speak.
Yeah, the software.
The same company.
But Avatar owns the software.
It's the same company.
It's the same company.
Nope.
Any other, anyone else from such a forum?