Selectman 9/15/26
SPEAKER_7 moved to approve benefits for September 10, 2026, totaling $104,901.88, with a second by SPEAKER_6; all voted "aye." SPEAKER_7 then moved to approve benefits for September 17, 2026, in the amount of $19,170.97, seconded by SPEAKER_6; all voted "aye." The Selectboard approved purchasing a Cummins generator from Generator Connection for $27,585. SPEAKER_11 made the motion, amending it to this specific amount, with SPEAKER_15 seconding; all voted "aye." The board approved the 2027 Zoning Enforcement budget totaling $19,350, including a $17,550 salary. SPEAKER_7 moved approval, seconded by SPEAKER_6. SPEAKER_11 moved to support the Town Forrester's budget request of $1,000, seconded by SPEAKER_15; all voted "aye." Interviews for the finance administrative position are scheduled for tomorrow at 1:00 PM. The board received grants totaling $38,000 for the generator project, including $35,000 from the Manton Foundation. The fire department received permission to post for a secretary position. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6lE5YdLcbI
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Yeah. Right. So I'm guessing they haven't received it yet. They just need to. JT, can you verify? I'm sorry. $3,000 for the province lake association for a mill. Post association. For a mill farm. Was ever issued. I think I'm late though. It's from Scantech. It's the report. Oh yeah. I met him. A couple of weeks ago. Says the cap continues to be in great shape. And the fill main looked around and found two surface water locations. Three. I'm not going to pronounce the word. Everybody looks positive. How's that? That's always a good thing. It is not good. It is not good. That's not good. That's not good. That's not good. That's not good. That's not good. So we get a check issue for that. Yep. And the trust fund gave us an update on the project. So we're going to get a check issue for that. So we're going to get a check issue for that. Yep. And the trust fund gave us an update on the project. So we're going to get a check issue for that. And we're going to get a check issue for that. And we're going to get a check issue for that. And we're going to get a check issue for that. And we're going to get a check issue for that. And we're going to get a check issue for that. So we're going to get a check issue for that. Yep. And the trust fund gave us an update for August 31st. What we have in our trust fund. ETF funds, I should say. And 68 hours of hunger. So they're just looking forward to the partnership. So I assume they're going to. I got a copy of it. You got a copy? I did. Good. So bunch of things on it. All right. Make a motion to approve the benefits date of September 10th, 2026 in the amount of $104,901.88. I'll second. $38,975 was for me. I'll still second. Discussions. All in favor. Aye. Make a motion to approve the benefits date of September 17th, 2026 in the amount of $19,170.97. I'll second. Discussions. All in favor. Aye. All right. In the minutes. Selectman's report. Okay. Okay. My report is kind of quick. Planning board meeting. The Vertex site plan application was approved. I did attend the ZBA meeting out of curiosity because Mr. Wood is putting in a deck and wanted to hear how that was going and that was approved and set up. We did a lot of setting up for the voting. And then voting day. We were there. All of us. All day. And that went very well. I thought. We actually had someone from the Secretary of State there doing an audit on the machine itself. and we passed. Everything is wonderful. Everything was fine. We also had a representative from the Attorney General's office, I believe. He was an investigator from the Attorney General's office. Right. And he was also looking at all of the numbers on the machine and making sure that everything was good, especially, I guess, since it's the second time we're using the machine and it's the first time for a state election or national election. So everything went very well. And that's it. Do you have anything to add about the elections? Wasn't there Jennifer Cope? She was the Secretary of State, the representative there. No. She's not a Secretary of State. No. Her letter said. No. The woman from the Secretary of State was balmy. Oh. Okay. Well, she reported to her. So she was the representative. She did the audit. Correct. On the machine. On the machine. Right. We were one of eight towns selected out of 200 and something towns in the answer to do an audit. Most likely it was because it was new to us. Yeah. So that's why they did it. So we got a, for all intents purposes, babysitter for the day just to make sure everything went well. Good to hear that it went well, though. It went very well. That's good. I think it's only for hand counting, something like two, two ballots? Three ballots. Three ballots. Three ballots for hand counting. Yeah. So. Because they weren't approved. They. They rejected them. Oh. So then you have to do them by hand. Yeah. There were only three. That's fabulous. on the machine itself. The reasons for the hand counts is there are some people that may just flat out elect not to have it read through the machine. They want it hand counted. That wasn't the case. Um. Sometimes if you put your ballot in, it'll say return the sender because a bubble didn't get filled in all the way or you over voted or whatever the case may be. And you can make the change. And then it gets hand counted that way. So that's the reason behind that. Well, there's a couple of those that are rejected and then they chose to redo the ballot. Yeah. So we had four sport ballots and they went through the checklist again and got a new ballot. So. That's good. Yeah. Y'all done? I'm done. Chris? Uh, first thing is, um, I've been, if anybody comes and goes overseas or I'm making phone calls to people asking for their assistance. I've been in the office helping a lot this week. I'm out of work for a while for medical reasons. Um, and I can do office work, but I can't do my normal job because it's just too dangerous. Um, so if you see me, that's why I'm not seeking a new job. I'm not getting any extra money. I'm just too much of an active guy to sit in my house and I feel like I can be useful. And I think I have been in the office, um, the last few days. So. So you want to be a financial assistant? Uh, no, I'm not. Just trying to help them out. Having said that, um, obviously there are some significant changes in the office. I would ask, um, and I think in our community, I can comfortably say I come to expect, um, a certain amount of grace as we get through this transition. And I thank everybody for their patience and their support, um, and understanding. We're all still learning. Um, you know, I've been following politics for my entire adult life and, you know, things change every day. And, um, you learn when you stop learning, then I guess you're done. Right. Um, so just, uh, I want to thank the office staff for, uh, their diligence and learning and their quick work and the, you know, their extra hours that they're putting in. And, uh, again, just ask for, uh, some, some patience and we'll, we'll get through this together. And it's just the nature of the business. We transition. Um, and sometimes you come out a lot, uh, brighter and greener on the other side. So we can only hope for that. So, uh, moving on from that, um, I have received, uh, two quotes, being the roads guy, getting ready for winter. I have received the two prices for, um, the two main vendors for, um, salt for this winter and the Eastern minerals who we did use last year in Morton salt. Um, Morton salt is almost exactly the $2 and 5 cents a ton, uh, cheaper than Eastern minerals. Um, so I would support if you guys do as well, um, going with, uh, Morton salt. And if so, um, uh, uh, uh, we actually got plenty of times valid to June 30th of 27. So good. We don't have to rush into that, but, um, two bucks is two bucks. Do we need to get salt this year? Yeah, most likely. Just out of curiosity, what was it a ton? Uh, so Morton salt is, uh, 87, 84 a ton. And Eastern minerals, 89, 89 a ton. Um. How many tons, how many tons we use here? Approximately. Uh, 400. I'm going to say that's, that's probably not. Yeah. Sorry. That's okay. I think because often I get my, because I use a lot of salt in my other job. So, um, there's a lot more, there's a lot more miles, lane miles of road too. Um, just, just to put it in perspective. I actually saw a Morton quote from 2023. Um, 2023. So not that long ago. And it was 79, 21 a ton. So. So. Yeah. So. Um. Diesel. I was going to say, it's not as bad as what diesel was then. So. Yeah. Um. The other thing is we, uh, Kevin is going to, the road agents going to be going up, touching up some of the dirt roads that have some washboard on them. Uh, we've been very fortunate this winter, this winter, this summer, um, that the rain is, we need the rain, but at the same time it's a double edged sword because our roads hold up a lot better. with the application of the dust control, the dirt roads do last a lot longer. Um, we have driven around myself, uh, and the road agent to, uh, assess the, uh, the worst ones that have got washboards and potholes. We'll be addressing them more than likely unless mother nature fools us. Um, they'll probably all have to be addressed before snow flies, but we do kind of have a fixed schedule and estimated, um, on a perfect weather and average summer, um, how many times each road gets graded. Um, some of those have already met that threshold, so they may not necessarily be touched unless they're horrible, but, um, yeah, I'm going to stick with that now. I'll come back if you remember something. Thanks. Um, yeah, we had a, I had a one non-public and then, uh, we had a work session. Yeah, going through the budget committee last Friday and everything else, and we did the election, moved last Friday instead of doing it Monday. We moved the equipment Friday at 2:30. Primary last Tuesday, and a bunch of meetings here. So, um, nothing exciting. No, you touched on quite a bit of it. So, um, yeah, plan. And I second Chris, what he said about just have patience. You know, we're trying to get through this and we're in process and we have a great administrator now. And, uh, so, you know, they'll shine down the road. There's a light at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. No pressure. No pressure. No pressure. Up to you, Steve. Steven. Steven. Steven. So, an update on the flooring. We had the floor contractor come back. Things are under warranty. There were some areas that broke. So, they're going to have to come back again to finish up. They need some furniture moved around for them to come back. Just let us know who moved the furniture. We are going to move forward interviews for the finance administrative position. Those will be this week. We also got pricing for our payroll company to come in and take over payroll to make things more streamlined, a little easier for the staff and for the employees. So, that's in the works right now. And that's about it. Things are moving along. So, that's 9 o'clock Thursday, right? We're interviewing? No. Tomorrow, 1 o'clock. Thanks. 1 o'clock. 1, 1:30 and 2. Right? 1, 1:45 and 2:30. Okay. Não, não, amanhã, 1 o'clock. 1, 1.30 e 2. 1, 1.45 e 2.30. Eu não vou colocar isso, então eu vou colocar 20 minutos em entretenimento. Oh, ok. E aí, eu vou colocar o dia, certo? O dia, 9 e o'clock. Eu vou colocar mais tempo aqui. Você está? Sim. Está a stando em? Ou está ele em cima? Eu não sei. Você sabe o que está a stando em? Ele está em cima em cima. Ele está em cima em cima. Ele está em cima. Ele está em cima. Ele está em cima. Ele está em cima de um número. Ele está em cima de um número. 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Okay, so price-wise, you're looking at $24,750 for the Cummins? $27. $27. You're going to look at the last call after they do the warranty and travel one. That's $27,585. Oh, okay. Generic? $17. $18. And the Philbricks was $14.8, but we got to get an updated proposal because that went back from earlier in the first quarter. So Generic is $28kw and Cummins is? $25. Now, we have the fire station. We just put a new Generic in there. What was that price? For the little one? That's $1 or $2? Yeah. That was $10,000. That was just $10,000. But that was only, what, $14,000? Yeah, I think it's even smaller than that. Yeah, probably $8,000. But the one at the fire station last year or two years ago, we put that in? I mean, that was $27,000. Yeah, $30-ish. That was the insurance paid for that because it fried it. We didn't have replaceable parts. And when the power went out and we had the back feed two or three times, it fried the generator. So the insurance covered it. That was between $27,000 and $29,000. So Generator Connection is the one that would supply the condoms? Who's our supplier today? Generator Connection. Generator Connection. And Jeremy, I found out, does a lot of generator work with Generator Connection. So Jeremy would actually do all the electrical work and look at it up. Are they all diesels? Propane. Propane. So we're looking at $10,000 more for Cummings. Total difference in quality of construction. You have a commercial grade versus a non-commercial residential grade. And that's clearly what the document spells out. Right. It's not a true apples to apples because you're dealing with commercial versus residential. This is all going to be grants? Yes. I'm just, yeah. To me, I'd be, I'd prefer to Generac. But Generac out of the freedom has the least quality of construction from a standpoint of maintenance and repair. So if I was going to do enough, when I do the Brinks and Stratton over the Generac, Generac is the largest manufacturer in the country. They're the Home Depot version. Get them out. Get them in quantity. They also have a higher repair record. They don't last as long. I want, from a town standpoint, I want a once and done for the next 20 years. The Cummins history, when you do the homework and the research. Yes, George. So having work for organizations that use these, the Cummins is definitely, whether it's worth the money. It's a Cadillac. But it's, it's more like a workhorse. Correct. Where, not like luxury, but if the town's going to keep it long term, and especially if we're getting grants, the Cummins, I mean, short of a cat, those are like, they're reliable. And this whole project's being positioned with all the grants as a secondary EMS center for the town, because of the previous history, that's since 2022. Right. That is a very, very big consideration by all of the different grant companies I've come to. That makes sense. All right. Yeah, it's a grant. I mean, town money, taxpayer. We have more of a discussion, but we don't. It's not. No. It's all grant, grant, grant, grant, grant. Got it. Fundraising. Yeah. It's all done. Any questions? No, I just would like to add that any, in my experience, and to mirror what George said, the town of Osby, the county, they're cat generators. Marshall typically is a cat. Just, I mean, the pump station, use that for an example. That cat generator is probably 30 years old or better. Yeah, cat generators go for like a. Yeah. I work. We had one that's like the size of a container. Oh, yeah. You just don't see that. And so what do you need from us? Just the okay, because I need the, we've got the project started, and we basically, I've got to order this generator, and I have no clue what the lead time is for the order. And that could determine when we actually complete the job. So did we get any grants for this yet? We have a $35,000 grant for the Manton Foundation. We have $3,000 from the Friends of the Library. And that came in already, right? The Friends one you haven't gotten in advance. No, but the $35,000 was. $35,000 you've gotten. That's the one we dealt with like a week and a half ago. Yeah, we did. The HTH arrived while I was on vacation. Oh, we put in HTH, yeah. It's in that one. Another grant that I've gone after is for the Cogswell Benevolent Trust here in New Hampshire for $15,000. Samuel P. Hunt Foundation here in New Hampshire for $18,000. If we're successful in getting all the grants, somebody's going to get some money back because we cannot keep more than what the actual project costs. Okay. And this is all for the generator? It's all for the generator. So if I get all the grant money, it's overfunded. I'll just have to give some back on the other end. In addition to that, Eversource, where we've applied for an $8,500 grant from Eversource, that cannot be used for the generator project itself. That's for the lines, right? It would be for preparedness, capabilities for our EMS systems. Gotcha. JT and I worked on that from a standpoint of what we would spend it on, how it would be spent. Mary came back to me and said, yeah, go ahead and apply for it. So we did that a week ago. So I'm pretty confident we're probably going to get that one. So you've got a lot of extra money on top of what you're going to be paying for this. And that's for putting in electrical lines, burying all that stuff, and everything else. Is that part of those grants? So we have the Eversource is a freebie on the upgrade for the service. Up to the first pole, the last pole. So that's the entire running it right through the service meter. So the berm was one excavation project. That's done. The second excavation project is all the trench work. Which is part of those grants. That's Mike Bukowski. All the electric is L&P electric, the generator-generator connection, the LP gas tank upgrade from 500 to 1,000. Right now it's AmeriGas. It depends on who the gas company is. And then once we've got everything in, there will be a small HVAC LP gas job to hook from the exterior of the building to the existing heaters that are in the building. That's all part of that hole. Okay. Just a question on the gas. Is the town going to own the tank or is that the gas company? Gas company. So if you have extra money in, you can budget it somehow. We don't get charged with the money. No, but what we'll do is you get locked in at their rate and you can't use anybody else. Yeah, I don't. So just as food for thought, if you had grant money to get the own tank, you can put the gas out to bid to different vendors. If they own the tank, you can only get the gas from them. And you're at their mercy and gas, natural gas prices are not like gasoline. You can always change the tank out if it's above ground. Yeah, you can. But I'm just saying if the town, if there's like enough grant money, having your own tank gives the town the bargaining position to determine. You're going with 1,000? Yeah. Because mine's buried. I got 1,000. When AmeriGas came out, they looked at all the uses for the last three years. And they said we should be in a 1,000-gallon tank, particularly when this is going to be structured in the secondary EMS center. They said a 1,000-gallon tank. Yeah, I mean, just a suggestion. Get a price for a tank. In the meantime, I make a motion to support, moving forward with the Cummins generator through generator connections and L&P Electric, and then up to 27,585. The L&P Electric is on top of the 27. Right. It's covered with the other parts of the grant. It's packed for us today. Jeremy's giving us a proposal for the whole thing at this point. I'll second. He has an amend this. You're going to amend it, too. Thank you, Jeremy. Just a generator for the 27. Generator connection. I amend it. I second. 27,585 for the Cummins. Thank you. I second he amended. All in favor? All right. Aye. So what I did is I initialed this and signed it and dated that we okayed it today. Thank you. You need that for your paperwork? No, but you can add it for me. This will be for my files. Y'all set, Chuck? I am. You want to hang on to that? We have our sheets. Oh, okay. All right. Stan, you're up. Not for that. For the report. Okay. Basically, what I've been doing is just cleaning up the loose ends that have been sitting there and waiting to try to get people their permits. I have issued no permits as of yet, but in cleaning up the, I say loose ends, you know, the little things that are needed so we can issue a permit and be clear with it. I have had inquiries about a couple more permits. One, I just got in today from a neighbor of mine who happened to be putting up a carport. Since he's living next to the zoning office. Well, yeah, that's not a good thing for him. But at any rate, he did do exactly what he said he was going to do and apply for a permit, and everything is fine. I did the site visit to tell him he needed a permit, you know, so it's killed two birds of one stone. Things are progressing, I think, fairly well. I mean, it's just going to take me some time to get really comfortable by meeting with people, as I just did with the woman who was just there, just to go over things to make sure that everyone understands that. That might take me a little bit, and I'm going to be more than cautious because I want to make sure that what it is I'm doing is exactly what needs to be done. Obviously, with the board, if there's anything you find deficient, please let me know. Can I see those real quick? But, I mean, it will be a far better report the next time, whereas I'm going by my notes now. Yeah, you didn't make a report yet, but you haven't done that. Yeah, they're reporting itself. I'm sorry? You haven't done, like, that report that Rebecca had showed you? Oh, no, not yet. No, that's a monthly. That's kind of the monthly thing. The list that she has is basically the notes, unless she issues a permit. And there's, again, a couple things that I'm waiting for. One of the things is the historic district about a particular construction that was going on. And I just need some document from the historic district saying that, no, we're not going to do anything. that this gentleman needs to correct an issue or just take and say, it's okay, you can issue the permit. He's complied with everything that zoning has asked him for, other than that one document, which I really would like to get my hands on. I just want to make a note that we had a retirement party for Rebecca. Oh, no, we didn't. That's right. We didn't mention it. We did our reports last Thursday. It was last Thursday. Thursday. So, sending off party. She was happy. 20 years. Yeah. So, I just want to throw a note in there. Up to you, Chris. Go ahead. Okay. And the document, correct, yeah, that was. So, one says new, one says old, and they look to me and Leo to be the exact same. What did you change? That's the old one. That's the new one. What has changed is, if you look at these documents, the new one puts in the stipulation that the Board of Select Mads' discretion may extend the stated approval. That one does not say that. All right. This one says times of the essence. Okay. Okay. That's been removed. I couldn't, looking at that, I'm like, boy, I can't find five, six of it. Okay. The revision at the bottom, I did not revise the old one. The old one is going to be. Highlight it. What's the new one? This one. The one that says new. You don't have to highlight it. Right. Because it says new, I don't know. I know, I know, but I just, that's the only thing you changed on it. Well, I removed a portion of that, which Chris has in his hand, that says times of the essence. I just removed that. I didn't see where that. That would pertain to the new one, because the new one gives you the discretion to continue it, as long as the request for a continuance of that is made prior to the expiration of that. Got it. So I think that will satisfy everyone. Just need to sign it. Correct. That just checks off another thing off in your manifest, not in your agenda. Yeah. Where's the folder first? Here. Do you want this? Do you want this back? Because you need to. I do need one. Yeah, you should keep the, you should keep the, you should keep that. You should. Thank you. So I, the old one, I can, you can, you can, this one here, I can issue, someone filled it out, an issue, you have your signature for this, too. Right. Got it. Any else, Dan? Anything else? Just the budget, I think, is going to be the big thing here, and in the true order. We'll sit tight, and we'll get to you in a second, because George has got better places to be. Yeah. On a mountain. Sure. On a mountain. I have actually got somebody that's trying to be that would rather be somewhere else, but it has vehicle bombs. Not yet. Yeah. Yeah, I got chief yet. Mine's quick. Very quick, I promise. Just wanted permission from the board to move forward with posting for the fire department secretary that's in the budget, posting the job. That's the one that was supposed to be split, right? Split between the police. For now, it'll just be for fire half, and. What was the total budget for that, for your half? I don't remember. The PD. PD had budgeted some, and then the fire department had budgeted. Yeah, we budgeted the standard model. Right. It was split. 2,800 made. Do we need to be involved with the interviews? I'm sure we'll have to. We'll have to okay it. Yeah, you'll definitely have to approve the hire. Anybody see any issues? I don't. To be honest with you, I think if you look back at our minutes, we already had this discussion. We probably did. I just wanted to make sure and get it posted and get that moving. Just proceed. Any else? Thank you. All right. George. Yeah. I got the budget. I talked with Chris briefly this afternoon, and thankfully, I didn't forget to send the whole budget sheet to you guys. I didn't get out. My apologies that I didn't get it out. Maureen followed up. So hopefully you guys have those numbers. Boarders are actually already going in. Okay. So I can just go through the line by line. Do you have their, is this the budget sheet that they would have? All right. So I can go through the budget sheet that you guys should have line by line. Yeah. I'm trying to find mine here. Yeah. 41, 91, correct. 41, 91. 01 through 11. Do you know when you guys are ready? I'm sorry. It's okay. I got it. Okay. He has a budget sheet that sent to us. So keep going. You might have a call, please. No, I don't. This is my original package. Oh, okay. I never got it. Yeah. I didn't. Maureen followed up. That's okay. You're going to tell us what it is, anyhow. Yeah. So. 2027. All right. So what we've got is the first 41, 91, 01, 01 is advertising. We budgeted $7.50 as of up until relatively recently. Our actual was $1.30. This is one of those line items that basically the applicant pays anyway. It's really hard for us to judge what that's going to be because if somebody has tons of abutters, the advertising is to notify the hearings and so forth. It could be a lot more if we don't have a lot of applications or that are not a lot of butters. It can be less. But, again, it gets reimbursed by the applicant. We're just going to keep that the same at $7.50. We regularly come under budget on that, but it's a wash. And, again, it just means we're prepared. Just real quick, if I can interrupt you, George, the $130 that you spent, that was an actual for $25. You've spent $581 so far this year. Yeah. All right. Actually, yes, you're right. And I will look at those numbers. Yeah. I think you're still good. Yeah. Yeah, we're good, but this was a more busy year than the previous year. Hopefully, we'll be under budget. But as far as the town is concerned, it's a wash because, yeah, it's working. We spent $581 on that. No, it's $169. Thank you. $581. Any more? Advertising? Advertising, yeah. Yeah, $169. Oh, I'm sorry. We have left. I apologize. I looked at it. Sorry. I looked at it. No, that's all right because I'm looking at the scenes. I looked at the wrong call. No, no, no. Maureen was about to have a. What? Yeah, so we're negative $581 on the budget. Selling some trucks? Well, but to the point, we could easily next year be $581. So that's just staying the same $750. We have folks in publications. Again, we're $110 into those, I believe, based on what Chris was saying, the town pays for the land use or those from out of our budget. So that's all from our budget based on those books. So when you called about that, that's our budget for basically the nine land use legal books. Or the red books? Yes. Or what if they change the color every year. But those are, we utilize those a lot. So those are very useful. So what do you want with that budget? $350? Yeah, it stays the same. $250. $250. I have $250. We dropped it because we were under, and that's a relatively consistent number. One of the things that we were trying to fine-tune this a little more, because last year when I came in, again, we have all these unknown, unknown costs, and it was kind of like we can take from one account to the other. So we padded some of the accounts a little more, and we can bring that. Because $16 a book. Yeah, and we do sometimes get other publications associated with courses and things like that, and we do have two new board members who want to get up to speed a little more, and there might be some costs and things like that. But yeah, so basically it's $250. The next line is computer services, which we had kind of as a dollar in case something came up, and we realized something has kind of come up, and that is that we're using Dropbox as a kind of depository for all of our documents. And in the past, with like the MENA thing, we used the Dropbox, not to the delight of all of the people, but they could access documents on Dropbox, and we had control over which folders are public and not public, etc. So the Dropbox is really a computer service that wasn't covered under computer services, so it's approximately $130 a year, and then we left some money for other things and increases. Keith? Yeah, SharePoint or OneDrive, which is included with our email, will do all of the same functions. The challenge has been that a lot of those have changed. It seems that every time we start using the talent system, it changes, and for some of these things, we're legally obligated to maintain some of these documents. And we thought, since this system's been working well for the planning board, and we have these Dropbox files all in place, we wanted to keep Dropbox. We understand that there's like the Google Drive, but like the Google Drive depends on the town's contract. And the transition last time of some of the documents didn't go over totally, and we had the Dropbox as a backup, and that was kind of the plan B that we actually ended up relying on. So that's why we want to put that, we want to continue with it. We don't intend to change. I mean, obviously, we're too deep in with Microsoft at this point. Nothing is going to change there, and if it's in the town stuff, it is being backed up in a couple of different places now. The OneDrive goes into three different spots. So I think one of the issues we've had in the past is people getting credentials and access. It's been accessing the town system has been a challenge, whereas accessing the Dropbox has been pretty clear-cut. I mean, I think we could maybe, going forward, try to phase out and incorporate the town one. In light of all the stuff that's kind of going on, and this way we can just kind of do Dropbox and not bug you, not bug the town administrator. We kind of have the system in place. And for $130, I think it's a good value. And then maybe going forward we can. If I may, chime in. So I'm okay with supporting the money for the Dropbox. If this is a free fee anyway, if we did it in both places, and then we could see how it landed in that system and how it was, just please keep in mind we have the new. So you keep referencing the problems that we've had with admin access and stuff? That was one of their old town websites. So we have the new one that's hopefully sooner than later will be finally coming up online. So when that does, I think it's a good time to transition. We're just trying to keep our bases covered and keep that right now because that's working and all that documentation right now is there and we can access it and we know how to do it. But I think going forward, it's not if we can get a better streamlined system. Yeah, if we get a feeling for it, we put it in SRJ. We can work towards moving into the OneDrive, making sure everything functions correctly. And maybe at that point, if things are working well, you just cancel the subscription. Yes, yes, we can do that. You've got to kind of cover it because I paid for it out of pocket this year so far. So how much is it? $130 to say? Well, we budgeted $150. It's an extra $20 just random in case we have other computer related. I don't know if we need like a zip drive or something. I think go get one for $9. So that is different. That's gone up from last year. And we have spent the $129 on that already. The next line are the dues for LRPC. We got the 90% short of this year. I don't think they've totally finalized it, but it is $18. Or $2027? Yes, it's $18.53. So they went up from last year. It was like $17.78. That should be the number that we ultimately get billed. Uh-huh. Mileage is $7.50. It's the same. We've used $30.50. We've used $30.50. $30.50? Yes. And then the year before that, we used like almost $4.50. Price of fuel, again, is... So would you want to drop it to $500? I brought that up. I'm looking at it. I mean, you only used $30.88 this year. So based on... I think we could probably do $500 for mileage. for mileage. I agree. Oh, thank you. So... That's where you raise your computer services. Yeah. Although... Can I throw out a thought here? Yes. And the only reason I'm just saying that, I don't think we should go too low. No, I think $500 is sufficient. No, I think $500 is a reasonable number, please. And again, these are... Some of these things are optional, like going to these training courses. Some of them are not. And I think $500 is good. So we have office supplies. Again, we left that as $1 because there was a point where we may have to reimburse the town for using office supplies. Well, we need to get an executive. Right. So we've just kept that at $1. That stays the same. That's mostly for paper. Right. Sundry items. Postage, we're keeping at $1,000 again. That's 99% of that is for posting for hearings and meetings and things like that. And those are mostly paid for by the applicants, but that still comes out of the budget line. And again, we have no way of really knowing if that's going to be high or low, but postage certainly is not getting cheaper. So you're saying that the... So far we have $435 we spent this year. What's that? We spent $435 for postage this year. So we got reimbursed for that. Correct. So that came back into the general... That goes back to you guys. It doesn't go back to us. Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. Right. But yeah, so the postage and the advertising from... It's a placeholder. Right. Yeah. And those are mostly paid for by the applicant. But we may, for example, have some sort of... Yeah, we have various things where we have to just mail that an applicant doesn't pay for. But again, it all comes out of that line. So we're just going to keep that at $1,000. Professional services, we're keeping at $5,000. And it's actually, up until now, we're at $4,046 because there's some other things that came out. And some of those, again, are paid for by the applicant. But we still have to pay them, and then we get reimbursed by the applicant. So most of that $4,046 is for engineering for Vertex that they are going to reimburse the town for. There is some where we got additional services of about $800 where Vertex refused to pay for that, even though it was engineering. The board determined that we're going to pay for it anyhow. So that we're not requiring... They refused, and it's not worth fighting them to make them pay. Yeah, it was only $8,000 or something. It was less. It was $800. It was $800. So we're just eating that. But that's an example. So we're still within budget, but we're keeping that where it's at. The recording fees, we have at a dollar. And were you still thinking of trying to transfer those? Yeah, I had that conversation with the registry of deeds today, and we can probably keep it at that. Okay, so right now, transfer it to? Transfer the way it's worded on the application. Right now, recording fees get reimbursed by the applicant. Right. And so we're actually over this year because... Right, $16. Actually, it's about to be more than that because I have two more plaques to put down. Yeah, we're like $70. And we were reimbursed, but the line doesn't exist. I'm going to talk to the board about changing the way it's worded on the application so that the applicant writes a check directly to the registry of deeds for the recording fees. Versus the town. Right. Yeah, so right now, they reimburse us, the town pays, and what we're going to just try to do is get them to pay it straight up. So Marie's working on that. She caught that, but we haven't resolved that. So we'll keep the recording fees for now at a dollar, and then you guys just have a heads up. That's what we're trying to plan going forward. The secretary's salary we're keeping at $8,500. Right now, Marie's at $6,605 a week. So... Was that a... How many? Yeah. So that's hours per week or just a stipend? No, it's not a stipend, but... So it's based on seven and a half hours? A week? Okay. And it's the same type of thing we have. Weeks that are really busy. Some of the things with Vertex took quite a bit of time. Things look like they're going to slow down, but we're within that budget. And the other thing is what we mentioned at the last meeting is there's a lot of paperwork back there. Stan, you might start coming into this, and it'll probably drive you nuts. Some of these things are based on the last name of the landowner. Other ones are the map and lot. We're trying to transfer everything to map and lot. It'll make Stan's life easier. That's one of the things if Marie has some time. So that still falls within the budget we have, and that would definitely benefit everybody. We could straighten that out. I agree. And then the training we're keeping at $350 as well. Last year we didn't have the two new board members. We do have the board members now, and they are interested in doing training. So the new board members came in March, but they didn't. Yeah, they came in. They're still getting up to speed, I guess is the way to put it. So they're still interested. Like I occasionally, like with the ADU thing, that was like important, and I did some training on that. I don't do a lot. The other board members, for the most part, have a pretty good grasp. But there are things that come up, especially since last year's changes that are beginning to have more practical effect now. So we're just keeping that the same. And then the one line item we'd like to add is a legal line item for $1. just because we had a situation where we've had some legal that's not the... So there are situations where the planning board might have legal that is separate from the town legal. And we had, for Mina, approached Chris Bolt about legal questions that we didn't instigate, that he answered, that we, as a board, got billed for. And we don't really have a line item for that. And that has kind of gone under professional right now. But it's not really professional services. It's legal. And what we realized is that if we ever have to legally defend ourselves, then we at least have a line item, whereas now we don't. So that was brought up by the board, that they just wanted to have a dollar placeholder for legal. Wouldn't that fall under the legal in the executive? Yeah, we talked about the rosary, we were kind of... It was a little bit... We don't anticipate any extra legal expenses, but just for budgeting purposes, right now, if we did incur legal expenses separate from the town attorney, we don't have a line item for it. Isn't that legal for... Lita, do you mind if I... Please. If I'm not mistaken, I don't have to be to any part of me, but some of attorney Bolt's billing is under professional services under the planning board. And it's just about transparency. It's just about not... So, to me, 100% move forward transparency right here on the open. Legal is legal. So that's up to us to go through the finance and remove those from your professional services line and put them back in legal. Because one of the whole reasons why we did these as boards many, many years ago was to streamline the postage, the legal. It all gets funneled through the office. It's all legal fees. Yes, Chris Bolt is the planning board's attorney, but ultimately hired by the town. Right. As was Chris Dresser and so forth. So those things have to come out of professional services. Legal is legal. So they're just in the wrong account for now. So before the end of the year, we will be doing that. And that's how we did it. Right now, that's part of the professional that I gave. So that fell under there, but we just wanted to make sure... Yeah, in legal budget, we have eight categories between, you know, fire department, health, everybody, and your planning board's in there. It was brought up by the board members, and we just wanted to make sure that we had a line. Again, we don't anticipate any legal fees, but, like, for example, when somebody comes and they contacted Chris Bolt, because he was the attorney on MENA, we can't say, like, we didn't ask him, but he billed it to us, and I actually kind of complained about that. Like, he said, no, you know... So that should then be submitted to the town. No. Right. Okay, so can you... Do you have a record of that professional service showing where that legal went in there? At home, I do. No, no. But can you get with Stephen? Yep, sure can. And once we get the new financial person in place, we can transfer that from budget act or back to legal, from professional services. Okay. Yeah, it wasn't clear to us how that worked, but... Yes, yeah, so we can do that. So we're scrapping the... Yes, we can scrap that. So going forward, we'll just do what we're doing now, the professional services and the legal falls under the town line. Any more categories? No. Nope, there's no more categories. So what's your total? So the total we had was... Well, you just changed it. You changed it. Yes, so minus... Minus 250... Minus... 251. Minus 251. Yeah. So it should be 18,355? At 355? No. 18,355. 18... 355. 355. No, it should be less than that. Okay. I mean, you look at 18,481. We took 100 bucks off... So we're 18,606 before the changes we discussed. So the changes we discussed, we dropped $1 off the legal. 18,355. That's what I said, yeah. 18,355. Oh, we had 152 computer services. Yeah. I missed that one. Sorry. I make a motion where we move forward with supporting the 2027 proposed budget for planning board, a total amount of 18,355 dollars. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. We always try to come under budget. Thank you. Appreciate that. We're keeping that... And 30 bucks. No, I'm in here. $1.25. $1.26. Scott, you're giving me a signed copy. Yeah, I'm going to... I'll bring him up. You're going to bring him up? Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, we're good. Thank you, George. Thank you. Have a good... Take care, guys. Oh, you make sheets? For the ones I've had? For the ones that were sent in. There's another page on the back side of it. It was a proposal for... You didn't receive anything from zoning? Lawrence? Stan has his... You guys don't have it? No, no. I'm talking about zoning board. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's... Probably want to... Emeline? Yeah, probably want to... You're going to be fast anyhow, because I'm going to have a little bit more. I don't know, Emeline. Yours is always very long. You don't mind, Stan? You don't mind, Stan? You don't mind? No. So yours is... Do you want to address just the changes? There's only two. Women's unbearable children in education. And we have a request that happened to be... The rest of the panel presentations we have in August. And this year... I don't know if you recall what? Last year, it was like $350 to $550. So we have to raise that request this year. And $50 on the water testing, which we raise every year $50. So that's it. So we're looking at an increase of $150. Oh, yeah, $150. Right? My math is right? Yeah. Nope, nope. I'm sorry. That's not right. I apologize. I apologize. Wrong column. Sorry, that's not right. Oh, I didn't get that for me. It's the second page in her... Yeah, that's right. I'm looking at it. I'm just transferring it over my pages. Yeah, I am too. Let's throw that one away. So she reduced $75 off of the... It's $175. From $48.55 to... From $46.80 to $48.55. Anybody verifying the number or just... You got it? Haven't verified yet. So if you... This was last year's number. Which was $3,680? No. $2026. Okay. Yeah. $275 plus. That's what I got. Are you dealing with the OG? Meaning that on the dudes, it would say $0.0. The top you gave me, Rosemary, is all off. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I saw that. I think it's fine. Or $8.55. I gave a copy to Steve. Yeah, because I'm working on mine too, and it's... So, okay. So, in other words, the dues on 2026 is incorrect with a zero? Correct. This should have been $275? Yeah. Because, I mean, I had the budget sheet that they gave us, and it shows that the budget for 2026 was $4,680. Yeah. Yeah, and this could be the best... That's wrong? No, probably. They didn't... This should have been $275, so this number's incorrect. What do I have? I have a different number than you. I know, I see that. I agree. I agree with you. Which number? From 2026, what you provided to us. Right, it's not the same... Yeah, there were some things that were... It's incorrect. So we can't go by the 2026 budget. That's your total for 2027? 4855. 4855. And last year's total was $4,680. $4,680 was last year? Mm-hmm. That's right. I know, but all these sheets that we... That was... I was trying to... Right. Yeah. I'm not using that sheet. No, don't. And I just asked the question. If this was the budgeted number for 26, and I said that I was told that was an incorrect number. By me? So... Moving forward. Wow. So it is a $175 increase. You're correct. I was providing incorrect pick. In the wrong column in the same place. But I'll see they got any number. Right. So any discussions here? Mm-mm. Make a motion to accept 4611-01 conservation administration for a budget for 2027 in amount of $4,855. Now a second. Discussions? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you. Thank you. You too. All right. All right. Stan. All right. Get the cleaning board done. I'm going to put these in order that we haven't put them in. Who is that? Yeah. Is that your phone? Yeah. And that goes there. Okay. Spare with me a minute. Mm-hmm. I'm trying to find which one it is. 49, 4191. That's that zoning board. Right. For zoning enforcement. 4191. That's all three. That's all three, sir. John, Stan. Everybody set? All set. I'm ready. Ready? I'm ready. I was born ready. The 2027 request represents a $43 increase over the 2026 request. Without actuals, it's difficult to really come up. And I know the actuals would only be for nine months, but still we can predict in that time be pretty close of what we could come up with for a budget. The increase is represented only in the zoning officer salary and why it's reflected in there is because if I needed Rebecca to come in for, you know, a little help here and there, you know, and I believe the, I believe the, I say agreement, the gentleman's agreement was that she could come in as a consultant. Right. All right. And therefore would not be bound by what the zoning salary, you know, officer salary actually is. And I'm thinking that just that little increase just rounded it up to an even number. And it's, as I said, it's $43. I'm hoping that as with all the departments are that we, you know, with the budgeting, the way we have to do it is that you have to have the money available in your budget to spend it, regardless of how much money you happen to take in, because that represents on the income side of the, you know, the revenue side of the town. So, um, that being said, all the other requests to stay in what was budgeted in 2026, I, again, I, I cannot give you an accurate accounting the way that, you know, to extrapolate out into the rest of the year without the actuals. So you're just looking at the salary increasing. It's just for 43 hours because I'd only anticipate that being. Well, we're looking at also, um, what's the COLA, Scott? 3. 3.6. I think. 3.6. 3.6. Yeah. I just did the calculation 3.5 for increased salary, increases next year. So. We're not negotiating salaries in public, are we? No. Nope. Nope. But we have to approve this budget. Right? Yeah. That's true. Um, I got $17,550. Go ahead, Scott. I just put a clarity, what, what was the totals, um, Stanford zoning officer's salary that you're requesting? What's the total, $17,000 for the zoning officer's salary. Again, that I don't anticipate my getting that. I anticipate, you know, that being used to pay the consultant to me, or may not have to come out. Barring other complications, would it make more sense if you just add that to the training line? So you're adding a consulting line. Well, I was interested. Yeah, you're not adding a consulting line. No, no, I'm saying so. And move that in a consulting line, would, for, for transparency, wouldn't it make more sense based on the standards premise to add that to the training line, if you needed, if Rebecca was coming in for additional help? Where'd you get this out of your house? Oh, oh, training for myself. Yes. I see what, I see what, I see what you're saying. All of these things changed. I suppose that would be, you know. Everything changed. The reasoning behind that, that you would be assisting me, or not assisting me, but actually, you know, telling me, you know, this is how you have it. You should be training. I mean, I have no qualms with that at all, you know. I mean, elsewise, it's, I don't know, how you do it. Yeah, I mean, um. You can lock it, basically, the other way. I agree. I agree. We should move it to the training, basically. Okay. So, if you want to, this year, we didn't, you didn't use any money for training. Right. Correct. So, it's at 70 bucks. Okay. You want to make it comfortable, 100 bucks? You think you're going to need, you know, you like. Well, yeah, because what I need for her, right. You want to round it off. Yeah. So, I think 100, I think an even 100 would be fine. I mean, I would, you know, I'm hoping I don't have to use any of it, but. I like that, but. Yeah, but if you have to, you have to, it's that. So, the salary, we increased the training. We'll have to discuss the salary. Did you change anything else? No, nothing else has changed. So, 500 bucks in the first category. Equipment, 100. Mileage, 300. Use 205, so yes. Postage, you only use $15 and 60 cents. Right, but we still have to go back in there and pull up. Accounts just to make sure that they're charged in the individual boards. Exactly. Again, I mean, without, you know. Right, right. Without being in this, you know, for a little bit of time. Yeah. I look at some of these numbers and I say, okay, do we really need that? Yeah, but Rebecca was using, what do you call it? The machine. The machine, yeah. The stamp machine. The stamp machine. But it all went into sort of like one or two. Oh, okay. Yeah, that goes into individual. It's between the clerk and executive. So, somehow, some of the postage didn't get charged back. We'll have to figure out how much you're really using. Right, okay. So, printing $350 and you used $115. What's the printing for? That was used to print the booklet that you guys have. Yeah, and for those, for 25 copies she made. Right, right. She may have used it for business cards or something like that. I haven't thought. So, you're going to need some for business cards, probably. I'm sorry. You're going to need business cards. I, yeah, that's. But you need $350? I haven't been to a printer in a long time to tell you. I have no idea what printing costs today. So, I would say that that booklet that she printed up had to be, again, without actual. I mean. I hope she submitted the bill because I don't know. At $57, I think it's more than that. Yeah, I'm sure it's more than that. Yeah. Okay, so we'll leave that at $350. And once you get your ear underneath your belt, we'll have a better understanding. Well, I apologize. Don't apologize. And don't apologize. No. You know, well, I feel like a dummy, and I don't like feeling like a dummy. No, don't. Please, don't. I mean, look like one most of the time. So. This is a salary. What do you want to do? We have to. We're going to vote on it tonight. Go ahead and do your math. With the salary. It's not talking about people. Yeah. With the salary. We had to increase it. I mean, we're doing it. So it comes out to $17,550. $17,550. What did you get? $557. Around. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. $567? No. Use my number. All right. Well, right now, the salary is level funded. Right. You make an adjustment. Yes. Okay. I missed that then. He's making a motion or he's making a motion or he's making an amendment to this to include that. And what was that number again, wheel? $17,550. So that comes to $19,350. That's right. That's right. You got it. $19,350. At that stand? Whatever you guys say. So you got all your numbers, what do you have? Do I have the numbers in front of me? That we're going to approve tonight? That we just approved. Let me give it to you. I need a pen. I didn't bring a pen for a pen. I'm a dummy. I mean, I prefer blue or black. It doesn't matter to me. Makes a difference for some people on a rose. So, $500 on first category. I'm sorry? $500 bucks, first category. Cell phone? Yep. Equipment, $100 bucks. Yep. Mileage, $300. Yep. Postage, $450. Yep. Printing, $350. Yep. Salary, $17,550. And training, $100 bucks. Total, $19,350. Got that? You got it. $19,350. We got to touch upon the other one? No, that's not on the schedule tonight, I don't think. Yeah, no, that one's not on the schedule. So, you'll have to come back for that one on the 27th of October. Okay. So, you've got a hard minute to sort that one out. Okay. So, I'll make a motion to approve, uh, 4191-03 zoning enforcement for the amount of $19,350. I'll second. I'll second. Discussions. Seeing no discussions or hearing no discussions, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. I'll make a motion to let you guys find it while I do this. Sure. 46-19-01, Town Forrester. From Jeff Libby, you requested $1,000. I see. I'll make a motion to support the $1,000. Aye. Yeah, I'll second that motion. All in favor. Aye. Aye. And do we have budgets for the other three? Historic heritage and zoning. I do not. They didn't submit a budget. They didn't submit it. And they were notified to hear? Well, there was, there was. Just confusion, I think. Yeah, there was a little bit. Okay. All right. Stop it. So, should we hold off with those? We'll have to? Yeah. I don't have a buddy in front of me. Yeah. Maybe we can reach out to those department heads and see if they have anything prepared that we can discuss on Friday, Thursday at our work session. Clerics. If that's possible. Historic. Zoning, Historic, and Heritage. No. Sorry. Yeah, zoning, ZVA. ZVA. I agree. Yeah. Zoning off board. Yeah. Yeah, ZVA. That's it. We're good, boss. We're good. Thank you. Thank you. Have a good night, school. There you go. All right. I want to get to the stick around as well. Yeah, thank you. You want it inside the road? We can stick it inside, and I'll stick it up by the umbrella. Thank you, sir. I'll look for my, uh... Any, uh, announcements? I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. Uh... No change in hours, right? No change in hours. No, we'll keep it. No, we'll keep it. Okay. Uh, public comments. Yes? Just, um, these missing budgets, do you become available for next Tuesday? Uh, could the budget be good? Uh, could the budget be good? Uh, could the budget be good? Uh, could the budget be good, huh? Could the budget be good? Yeah. Yeah. Because we have, uh... Can we review them at the work session this week? That's why I said if we can get them in, hopefully we can work on them Thursday. Thursday at 9 o'clock. Uh-huh. So you can have them for next Tuesday? Yep. Before next Tuesday. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Signed copy. We have a deal when we miss something. That would be helpful. Okay. No problem. Any other? No? Uh, public comments. Great. Good to see you here. Right. So I'm going to be making a motion to go non-public RCA 91-8-3, comma, numeral 2, little C. I'll second. All in favor? All right. Thanks, guys. Have a good night. Take care. Thanks. That's fine. Okay. I got those numbers on the final. Oh, did you? Yeah. 2025. That's okay. Unfortunately. That's not a point. That's a good thing. That's a good point. I got those numbers on the final. 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