Select Board Meeting - August 19, 2026
The board approved minutes as presented. Maria questioned budget overages: legal expenses ($8,977.50 expended vs. $8,000 budget), planning and zoning ($3,353.50 vs. $3,000), and library expenses ($1,227.21 vs. zero). Officials explained line items are estimates; they do not transfer funds between lines as long as the total $3.18 million budget is not exceeded. The "Meridan Library" expenses are legacy payroll errors now charged to the $73,000 library budget. Planning overages were for a completed master plan. The Fire Department received rescue jacks ($520 plus 9% fee). George Hildam is preparing for Plainfield's 2028 revaluation after dropping Avatar, but recommends hiring him for the project. Eric, the Police Chief, is leaving in October; Rob Dietro recommends contracting with State Police ($90/hour) or County ($100/hour), and hiring part-time officers ($60/hour). The board appointed Karen Johnson for 4-10 hours weekly of bookkeeping and payroll training starting after Labor Day. The board moved into non-public session to discuss hiring committee formation.
We're gonna get started. Uh, welcome everyone to our Wednesday, August 19th, uh, meeting of the Planefield Select Board. >> Y, >> we're going to start with the approval of our minutes. >> And, um, thank you, Steve. So, like kind of putting these together from from some notes. >> Everybody sent me their notes, which is great. You know, I used a very broad brush, but I think I got it. >> Well, I I think you did, too. I didn't. But did anyone have any uh because Steve wasn't here, I wanted to really look through it and make sure we we got it okay, but it looked it looked good to me. >> All right. Would anyone like to make a uh >> I move that we approve the minutes as amended. >> As presented. >> As presented. Sorry. >> We didn't even amend them. >> I second it. >> All right. All this in favor. >> All right. There. I wasn't even sure if like the whole like sending you emails to change things constituted an amendment. >> Oh, >> yeah. No, it's it's okay when when that happens and I just make them. >> It's okay. >> Yeah. I think we're good. >> If it's the substance of it, I think it matters. But if it's >> Yeah. If it's just commas and which, you know, I keep a bag of those and use them in some places don't use them and others. >> All right. Do we have any public comment this evening? Maria. Um, in reviewing the expenditure summary through August 16th, I noticed a few specific line items that have already exceeded their annual budget or show unusual activity. I'm asking these questions to ensure transparency and to understand how these overages will be balanced across the overall operating budget moving forward. So the first one is the legal expenses on line 4153. The $8,000 budget shows $8,977.50 expended, leaving a negative balance of $97750. What specific issues cost us to reach the legal budget so early in the cycle? And what is the projected year-end legal cost? And then I have two more questions after that. Okay. Planning and zoning line 4191. This line is budgeted at 3,000 but shows $3,353.50 expended. >> That's my >> So is 35350 available? Will this require a line item transfer from another department? And then under library expenses line 4550, this shows 1,227.21 expended against a zero line budget. Why are these expenses hitting a zero outline budget instead of the designated library budget account? So these are just some questions. I have other follow-up questions. >> I don't know that we have answers for you uh tonight. I think you have a brief answer. I mean, I can talk some free, but I mean I mean we're just >> some of the legal budget is you, Maria. >> Oh, really? >> Well, it's because we have to consult town attorney because of from your memos and so he charges us for that. >> Okay. >> So, that's that's >> the one that started this. >> No, we're not doing that. You ask what the expenses are and that's what they on the plan. >> Who else did are we suing? >> So, it's not about suing. There's an awful lot of reasons. We talked to an attorney. We're not going to go we're not going to go deep into this. And it's an wait, Maria, listen to me. Stop. It's an operational decision, too. How the budget gets spent. As long as we're all within the budget, the select board does not do the day-to-day deciding of what gets spent where. I mean, certainly we've approved the line item. These are questions we may have at some point. I knew what the legal ones were for, but so you can ask the questions. We'll answer them as best we can tonight. But does the money come from the unassigned budget that to pay off this or >> No, it comes from the total approved budget. We have 1,232,792 or No, we have 3,182,516 to spend. And any of those uses above, as long as the total doesn't exceed 3 million, what I just said, it's fine. >> Yeah. Well, okay. the the line items are simply our best estimate of where that money will be spent. The only thing the selectman are held to is the 3,200,000 >> and towards the end of the year sometimes if things get overspent we have to make decisions on other line items you know. >> So so what I understand is you do check every month every line item variances on a monthly basis. >> No I mean yes I look it over but >> Okay. Yeah. >> And then the transfer are handled by how >> there's no transfers. We let the we let the expenses show go where they go. And as long as the budget isn't overspent on the bottom, that gives the voters the best information. They see that we estimated 8,000 for legal and we and we spent 11. >> You never know what's going to happen during the year. >> Absolutely. >> Because if someone were to sue us, we we don't know that at town meeting that that's going to happen. We still have to pay um our legal fees. Okay. Did you have another question? >> Yeah. on the high expenditure lines like with highway and streets >> it's already at 61% spent that's 537,552 and40 >> are we on track for seasonal winter expenses without exceeding that total allocation or >> yes >> okay great and then um >> there's about a third of the year left >> there okay so there's administrative purpose of the blank one item 455 listed under general fund expenditure. What What is that? >> Which Which line? >> It says 4555. >> Right. It that's a legacy account that goes it's blank. Do you see where it's there's >> Yeah. >> So that's that's a little garbage that came in with the accounting um trans the accounting conversion to the new system. Those 4550 and 4555 are both the library. Remember it used to be two different libraries. There was the Planefield library. There was the Meridan Library. Now it's just a library. And so that $1,200 has to do with payroll. And it was inadvertently sent to the Meridan Library. We with our new payroll system. We noticed it in the first couple of weeks. So that those two when you add those two expenditures up, Maria, they go against the library budget of $73,000. So both 4550 and 4555 are libraries. And so they it is the library department. It used to be broken into Planefield and Meridan. Now it's just library, but you add the two together. Their their their target is 73,000. >> And the planning and zoning thing though over >> that's the master plan. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's why I raised my hand saying it's my fault because I'm the one who kept insisting that the charts go back to the planning commission so that they were done. Right. >> Right. And so that >> so it's a legacy. >> Well, no. It's the master plan for the town. >> Oh. So, we have to hire some of that work out and those people pay it. And that project is now complete and you know, we were $353 $353 off. >> We've got a few people. >> I mean, so I think we were okay. >> That's pretty good on that budget. I think >> other questions. Uh, well, you had I sent something last week, so I I just want to make sure that I I've been going through the document section and I found one and I I wrote everything up on it. So, hopefully you >> you have it in front of you. It's that docu. It's 26 pages. >> And you have it. >> So, the So, the board has it. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. That's us. >> That's us. >> Okay. Other questions? Okay, thank you. Any other We've just had a few people join us. I don't know if we're in our public comment section. So, if you've joined us and have public comment to this would be the time. Apparently, they've just joined us. We'll give you a minute. Mike and Michael and Nancy. Okay. Well, then we will move on with our defendant reports. Who wants to go first today? Chief, I'll give it to you. >> So far for the month of August, we have 85 calls for service. We deployed our speed feedback device six times. Uh we currently have loaned our speed trailer to Cornish PE for the Cornish fair so they can utilize that for pedestrian traffic over there. So we're helping them out with that. Um we had an elderly citizen who fell outside her home this month and she was outside overnight for 18 hours. Oh, no. >> This is why I feel that it's important as a public safety announcement that if you're elderly and you can get a life alert, that would be in your best interest to avoid situations like that. >> But where I was going to say you have to wear >> unfortunately this month, Planefield suffered a fatality motor vehicle accident. Um, I can't stress enough how happy I am New Hampshire State Police stepped up. Uh, there are so many moving parts. They're trained in so many facets of accident reconstruction and all that that they, you know, were able to take over the investigation to make sure that it was done correctly because that's all they do all the time. They train in that. We don't have the skills to do that. So, I'm very grateful that New Hampshire State Police took that over. um appreciate plane fire responding as fast they did. Cornish rescue uh even Lebanon sent an officer at the initial start of the incident and left them there to assist with everything that was going on. So when it when the chips are down and you need mutual aid, it's nice to see that the communities come together and help out in times of need. unfort, you know, unfortunately it was not the ending we hoped for, but I just want to point out that the people involved in this incident were not Planefield residents. So, it seems to think, you know, our Planefield residents respect our community. I just wish people motoring through our community respect our community as much as we do. Um clearly speed and alcohol were a factor in this incident and unfortunately the gentleman succumbed to his injuries and uh it's just an unfortunate incident. >> That's my update. >> Chief, was the truck that got hit was it out of River Oak >> coming out of Rivero trying to go north? Yes. >> And this guy's coming at 100 milesPH down. >> Yeah. Down. >> Put things in perspective. The operator who was 18 years of age operating under the influence was doing about 120 m an hour. The legal limit in New Hampshire is 0.08. He was a 22. >> Seems like a combination of two very poor choices. You might make one or the other, but in this case mean both. >> But it wasn't the intoxicated driver that died. >> No. >> No. It almost never is. He's the best off out of the three of them. >> His life. >> He just doesn't. That's so sad. >> That's No, there's tragedy all around this one. >> I mean, we can put there's the speed limit over there was 40 miles an hour >> and >> yeah, you can't >> you can make it two miles an hour if you're drunk and going 100. I mean, the truck was just pulling >> and that stretch of road is windy where you get to that intersection and it's just >> awful. Awful. And you know, Chief Elder and I were just saying we've had so many incidences of bad accidents right there on that far corner and >> we just don't why it's weird. >> I can think of others. >> You know, >> I think bad actors get to the Playfield line, they get past 11 and dump and and visually it changes. Pike is gone >> and it's just a place to hammer on it and they do. And those corners are worse than you think they are. They they eat you up. >> Um we've you know we all know about the accidents we've had on what locally you call Burwick's corner but there's nobody left that knows that it's Burwick. Um but it is uh yeah we've had some I mean 12A has changed so much in our lifetimes here at this table. I mean the number of cars that comes through it's just the the commuting circle around Lebanon has gotten so much larger. People just all day long you know they're they're go and all hours of the day. Right. Yeah, I don't think this kid was commuting anywhere, but yes. >> No, no, but I mean it's just line after line. >> If you're in Windsor and you work in Lebanon and you don't want to go all the way to White Ribbon, so you take back those you take 12. I mean, I mean, I I don't spend time on 120 like I do 12A. I can't imagine 120 is as busy. 12A is >> traffic. Is it get pretty busy, too? traffic counts are like 24 2500 >> uh gone 120 and 3,700 on 12A >> and 12A used to be around 3,000 about 20 years ago >> or even less. Um, but that's >> yeah, that's what we're seeing and >> and there's I don't know what we can do about it for our community with the state controlling those arteries, but >> there's there is a different attitude. There's been traffic calming groups in town over the years >> that initially ran into really strong headwinds of any kind of modification. But if you look at what other communities are doing on Route 10 on on other major state arteries, I think there might be hope for doing something. I think it only happens if you have community driving it, >> right? I think >> I think 40 miles an hour is appropriate for that road that that for 12A if people stick to it. >> They don't. >> Normally a lot of traffic on there tends to be 45 to 50. I take it every morning to work and that generally seems to be the but it seems safe. But if you're going to do 120, you're not on the autobond set yourself up for >> and it's just amazing on 12A the like green, yellow, red doesn't mean anything anymore. When it when your light goes green, you got to watch because there's two more coming, you know, at every intersection up there. It's just it's it is we have to get used to it. It's not Boston, but it is different. It's different. It's just different. Yeah. It'll be interesting with the commuters though when the bridge is out which will be soon the one very dry bridges. >> Yeah. So people going down 12A may not may may find a different >> and may decide they like it >> but yeah I know you guys had a very >> that's going to be something. Yeah. So thank you for all that all of that. >> I'm going to go with you. Yeah. So, I mean, just to add to that, so because I needed three ambulances, I just want you to appreciate when how much we pay Lebanon for the ambulance service. We had their entire ship was in playing field. They had three, all six of them were there. So, I had to call them back up and then we had the one ambulance from Windsor that came up >> and because I knew that Lebanon ambulances, that's why I called the Cornish right away. So, actually the Cornish deputy was running the pump on our truck because he was closer. We didn't have any fire gear. So before the fire truck showed up, he says, "I'll take the phone." >> And he took him in cuz cuz I ended up in an air pack. So So he took him in for a while. >> You're all really amazing. And I know it's sort of what you train to do, but it's I'm sure it's extremely >> extremely difficult. >> The next night we had another accident. >> We're actually training. >> Oh, I knew that. Yeah, cuz my son still gets the alerts and he go, "Where's another one?" >> Yeah. Um, so that one after we were loading them into the ambulance when we realized that the truck actually went right in behind the welcome to corner sign. So we're on the corner side of the line. >> Take them out. Take them out. >> So as soon as the ambulance left, we turned it back over to Cornish, but you know, they they came up and and we um took off. But yeah, both of those >> Was that speeding again? >> No. Um that was in the downpour. >> Wednesday night and he had a coffee pit and lost track of the road and >> Yeah, >> that was a single car one. Yes. So this truck with a snowmobile trailer on it. Yeah. And the lady signed off and went home and by the time she made it to the hospital she had cracked vertebrae fractured sternum as well. So but she didn't want to go originally. >> Oh >> we have all that adrenaline going right. >> So we're up to 113 calls for the year. >> Stop. >> So it's eight for August. So there's the those two motor vehicle crashes. Um we sent our UTV headed for Cornish Claremont line. Um but the subject went out through the ATV trails into Claremont. So we got turned around and we had five fire alarms. Um so they call for August. Um I did win the rescue jack for vehicle SW okay >> stabilization. So that was $520 plus the 9% fee. So there we now have two sets of rescue jacks for 560 680. Um I did an oil in burner inspection Monday. Um, they haven't got the windows in yet over at the school, but they want me to come do the fire safety walkthrough yet. So, they claim they're going to open school on time, but they still don't have windows in yet. It's currently covered in plastic, but I allowed them to start moving furniture back in. Um, Sergeant Deedro and I met with um anyway about the emergency operation plan for a couple hours on Thursday because it had been long enough that their staff had changed and they hadn't met with anyone in the town since Tony was chief. So long been a while >> at least 3 years. Um so there's going to be more to go on that. We discovered that they actually have the gayway frequency on the emergency that can talk to them. >> Right. >> The fire department doesn't. So when we get reprogramming we're going to put that in. >> Um they're going to send over the plan. So we haven't actually seen their plan yet. We just talked about it. Um Brad and I um Bev stopped by the town hall and the fire alarm panel was in trouble. So Eric called me and I went down and I called Brad and um we ended up calling Vermont Life Safety and I drove to Vermont and got a new card and we put the card in and it was fixed before the end of the day. >> So that's all still in limbo because we don't have permission to do the grant work yet because that whole system's going to get replaced. But um that worked its way through. Um one of the AT&T boosters for the mayor and fire department doesn't work. We've tried it in Planefield. We've tried it >> Meridan. We've tried So we tried different networks and GPS and stuff. I don't know where that is, whether Rob is going to send it back >> or whether it's down here at the Meridan station. Jordan, it's not in Blanefield anymore. But I'm sitting right beside the one that worked. >> Probably a faulty. >> And have you moved the one that works around to know if it works everywhere? To know that it's the device? >> No, we haven't done that. But only one light ever comes on. that the GPS signal one doesn't come up either. And if you put it right right in place of where the one that is working, >> yeah, >> is and we try we traded out the power supply. We traded out the GPS antenna. >> It's probably a faulty >> and they called to make sure it was still activated. So anyway, that's that's working. Um I think Bill's been talking to you some about upgrades to the Merida Fire Station. He's got quotes for some new flooring and stuff. I know. Uh he told me it was in the works and I was expecting a call so I have not talked to him yet. He said he let Liz was on it was what I the last time. >> Yeah. So the Meridan Association has some money to redo the meeting room. So they're going to you know the projector on the ceiling doesn't work. So they're going to get a TV and redo the countertops and the flooring and the lighting and stuff. So that's originally Bill pushed it on me and I pushed it back onto him and said your station. >> So he's he's going to be working with Brad because it is a town facility. >> Um I haven't heard I wasn't in town for touch a truck on Saturday but I I heard there was at least 100 people there. >> Wow. It was it was good. >> It was good. >> Highway highway had a truck. Cassella brought the one of them one of the lifters. Sharky helicopter came. >> Yeah, right. That was the helicopter, of course, is going to trump all that stuff, right? >> And last night, one of town lines big kabotas was still sitting in the back. I got a key. >> A truck. Never mind. Touch it. >> Yep. So, um that's at the corners. We That's why we're training last week. This year the parking lots all have letters and they can have big letters by them versus you know Ox trailer and all those local names. So we um measured out to see like in the bare ground say the snowmobile clubhouse there went up and fire where and we can't pull the truck all the way in to make sure that our hoses were going to reach. And so we met with them to talk about if there's a car fire in specific parking places because big trucks aren't necessarily going to go up up the road. So, and we met with them to try to pre-plan some of that, >> right? >> Um, yep. And then spirit day is coming up in two weeks or a week and a half. >> Next Saturday. >> When you um we'll hold your reimbursement check here. >> Um, so stop and pick it up next time you're going, but it'll be ready for the jacks to I mean, we could mail it to you, but by the time it goes to Connecticut, it could be 11 days before you get it. >> I'm over here. So it's I put a note on it to to give the check to Steve. I'll it'll be it'll be where we you can find it if you come in. >> So Marboro Mass, they wanted a banker's check. So I went to the bank and took one out of my own account, get reimbured here. That was the easiest way to do it. >> I can swing 520 bucks for watch. Um yeah, I think that's about it. >> That's a lot. Thank you. >> Yeah, thanks. >> Hi everybody. Um this weekend is our resource room and food pantry. So we'll be open Friday and Saturday um from 9:00 to 10:30. Our New Hampshire Feeding New Hampshire grant is going great. We've been working with McNamera Dairy and Edgewater Farm for that um fresh vegetables and milk. And then um as we transition into fall, we'll be doing more apples through the apple orchard which will be great. August lunchon is the combined special Malar Fund sponsored lunchon which will be next Thursday at the Langwood Barn in Cornish. So, that'll be fun. Bloods is catering. We have right now 79 guests um registered with reservations. So, it'll be fun. We're going to do a walk through tomorrow to make sure we have enough seating. Um, kind of kind of see what the the weather's going to be, but >> Bruce is on call to bring over picnic tables if we need them, which is great. Um, Tund Truck was a great success. For the first time that they did it in town, there was about 110 people. Everybody had a great time. The the placement of everything was wonderful. A lot of great community spirit and the church felt more um involved with the community, which is good because sometimes they want to be involved, but people see a church and they don't want the religious thing. But they're really putting themselves out there and it's wonderful. And they >> and their parking lot was perfect. Right. Right. You know, I mean, big heavy trucks on asphalt. Exactly what you want. Not not the used field >> in the back, which was great in the back. So then people and the kids were safe being out there. So yeah, it worked out wonderful. >> Um, as Bruce was saying, school is on schedule to start next Wednesday. Buses will be out at 7:10. Um, we're ready to go. So, I did check in with um Amanda today so that I can do Blackhawk Breakfast Club and um our snack program will be ready to go for Wednesday. Um spirit day is set for Saturday the 29th. Keep our fingers crossed for good weather. That is ready to go and well organized. Um and as a reminder, we are doing the telephone directory update. Um everybody should have gotten a beautiful postcard in the mailbox um as a good reminder. So, um, we are sticking tried and true to that deadline because we'd like to have it in everybody's hands by November. >> Is is Mike involved in that again? >> Of course. >> We are not gonna let him go. >> There he is. >> Um, so yeah, everything everything is is moving forward. Um, I want to just piggyback a little bit about what Chief Gutsfeld said about the medical alert. um very very critical piece of equipment for those that are aging in place and especially those living independently. Um we we got very lucky with that medical call. Um and she has a wonderful group of friends and family around, but um it could have gone really bad. Really bad. >> Yeah. in a different season, it would have been. >> Well, if we had just had rain and a little bit of chilliness, >> that much better. >> Yeah. So, >> 18 hours is a long time to lay there. >> All through the dark into the dawn >> next morning. >> And you know where she lived, there's people all around, but even if she yelled the AC units, it just >> Anyway, very we were very lucky. But yes, medical alerts. We do have wonderful scholarship programs. So if anybody is ever in financial need, reach out because we can make it happen. >> Great. >> Thank you. >> You join yourself. >> Yeah. Um so water departments pulling away at the three grants. They're all sort of happening little bits at a time. Um, I swapped uh a meter with Frank uh at the condos at the Westgate condos last week and we found a little drip that wouldn't stop and so we had to order some parts. But we did a notice um yesterday, day before and we're going to have a short outage tomorrow where we put some new pieces in. That meter and one that Frank gave yesterday are the last. We've got 89 in place out of a total of 119. Two of which aren't going to get swapped because the buildings are going to get demolished at some point. Um, so all that's left is the Spruce Park co-op and still have hopes of putting together a project with them to do it in one fell swoop. Um, and and they are hoping for that too. They've just have us a bunch of stuff on their plate except it's approved already and so it's it's just a matter of time. Um, actually had a thought about being able to tackle there is a newer set of of units there, 11 or so. um that we're putting in the '9s and we might be able to swap those meters. The whole idea was the existing installs where the meters are isn't where we want meters. We want to do more complete of an upgrade for the plumbing there and and they're on board with that idea. Just not ready to do it yet. For us at the water department, it's there are now five meters that are aged out and not working. and we estimate those and that's okay for a while but really not right over time. And so the question is can they reassure us that they're getting their act together for maybe a project next year or do we start whittling away at the ones that we could swap out just to get the total number of dysfunctional ones um out. It's only there's half a dozen now. Um one is the whole house is getting replaced so that'll get in the normal course of things get a new meter. Um, so anyway, but after a year and a half or a little more, we've got 2/3. I had hoped to do a third each year and I'm a little ahead of schedule with that. And so I real feel very good about that. And of those um I think about 75% are auto reading and so I don't have to go around or meter reader doesn't have to go around. So it take the last time which at about 50% it took me two hours to do the read. It used to take four uh when we paid Ben dry for it. He said that's about how long it took. Um and so it's all been to the good. Eventually we'll get there. But in the meantime, that much more accuracy, that much more lead free equipment, that much more eyes on our lead service, you know, looking for lead service lines, which we found absolutely none. So that sort of running its course, but I feel really good about the progress there. Um, and so Frank and I are going to finish that repair tomorrow and then we'll our focus, my focus will be on on the mobile home park. Um, for as far as meter conversions, um, Barry Hill, I picked up some replacement glass. I don't remember when we were there. All the things were boarded up from the vandalism number of years ago. At that time, I had ordered some glass. One piece had come in and the others were on order. I've since picked up a total of four and now am in the process of replacing those pieces of glass. Also replace the lock hardware on the build. So very soon I'll be able to actually use a door to get in as he goes to a window with plywood over it. Um and I'm set to go waiting on Richie to set the piece of steel and put the peers in. Everything is is as close as I can get it to having him set the steel on so that I can then put things together. So hopefully when he gets a little bit of a break in his schedule, he's gotten a couple of watch outs and other things that have just taken priority. So it's sitting there ready to go. My goal is to get that access safer to the second floor at least starting on a on a clean out set of dumpster runs and stuff. But first things first, got get a place easily accessible. >> The stairs were sketchy. >> They're Yeah, they are. >> They are. They are structurally I I'm comfortable going up and down them, but you are absolutely the railings need to be in place and everything else and it's just not there yet, but we'll get there. Um, let's see what else. I've been working on a bunch of different things in preparation for um the IT upgrades of the office. So, working with our IT services provider, Sagaro, and finalizing phone count because this is a computer upgrade, software upgrade, bringing us up to current uh Windows versions and migrating our phones from analog and comat, I mean, our existing phone lines to to a computer VO based system uh wherever we can and breaking the cord with Comcast over time. We just learned in the last week that Hub 66, who has been promising up up and down that they would be done by the end of September, has gotten an extension their whole program and they're now working diligently against a March 31st deadline. >> Oh my. >> It's really irritating. >> It's interesting though in terms of and I agree. I mean, Peter Martin stopped in this afternoon. He was going to write something for connect corn issue just to update the communities. But we had a resident call who was upset that the town's linemen had smoked a bunch of cigarettes and left them in their driveway. >> Well, there people on Bean Road hanging fiber. >> So, so they're on Bean Road coming TDS is also switching over to fiber. >> So, it's the TDS whatever they want. >> See, everybody's TDS. >> Well, that's Yeah, they they will get the franchise. they've been awarded unless they don't perform, but they've now just been given an extension in which to perform. So, they don't lose that franchise until a deadline goes >> No, but a lot of customers are going to go to the other fiber on the pole, >> right? In those areas where there's multiple vendors on a pole and so and and I'm looking at this building saying, well, if Hub 66 is going to be six months, who will who will bring fiber to our door at a comparable cost? And if that's the case, TDS does have access to these bowls. >> And the cost is the question. >> Well, TDS doesn't need the hub. >> That was the benefit. And that may be the ruling factor because it does amount to hundreds of dollars a month. >> Um, if we can break the cord with Comcast and and >> I really would like Hub 66 to come through. I'm really annoyed that they've been >> just telling us a line for so long. I'm far more. I think it did require an extension from the feds. That's clearly something. >> Yeah, but that means they keep telling us somebody asked, >> right? Well, we've certainly told lots of people September and now that's not true. >> Anyway, so in so we won't be able to complete all of the things that we'd like to be able to do with the phone system, but we will be getting um new phone capabilities at far reduced cost. And so that piece of the so the town hall is is the first PD and and town offices are the first bite at that and we'll learn but you also get to see what happens which bills go down how people like >> there's thousands to Comcast thousands >> that that needs to go as quickly as it can. Um >> last time I did the ad we're paying about 18,000 20,000 a year to Comcast through a total of five accounts. The thing that we we are worried about and we need and and Brad and I have been there's almost too many moving pieces, right? The the service line coming into the building is changing. The phones are changing. All the accounting or all of the computer software is changing, which in an office is a million little things, right? We have a direct connection to the state for motor vehicles. We have lots of functions that we use that are set in our existing systems. We really would like to get this done by October because once we get into budgeting, our stuff needs to work, right? Once we're having budgeting meetings, the planning board's having its meetings, the technology just needs to work. And so it's we're we're getting compressed. U we've started to order some machines. We're we're learning the system for our new IT people and we're in a seam right now. Mark Cohen still helps us on a daily basis, but Cigaro Sigaro Sigaro >> Sagaro is is is and and we like them. They are they are local and they are connected with municipality. They have some history with Lebanon. One one of the principles was was the IT person for Lebanon for many years and so I think they're going to be a really good fit for us. Uh but boy, we got a lot of stuff just we're going to throw the whole ball of ass up in the air and see where it lands. But I think to the point of selecting that particular group, it is because they have the expertise in the three areas that we care about and and they are the moving pieces that we need to have well coordinated. >> And the other the other layer we haven't mentioned is we're changing to.gov. You know, federal it's a federal program, but those people like like Brian can't start his work until Overreach sets up the tenant, right? I mean, >> it's Overwatch. >> Overwatch. I think I think it's overreach. Yes, that's a >> cheat sheet. >> They have just driven I mean they've driven us crazy on how long it takes to make a decision and so we're still >> we're still waiting on the plus side. >> Yeah. What is the plus side? Tell us. >> They're paying for three years worth of the of the initial licensing and stuff. >> Yes. Overwatch does have a sweet to get where we want to go anyway and it covers some of those costs for so we can get used to those costs, understand what they really are and budget for them. And so, you know, >> yes, it it is a big piece of a big pile of spaghetti that we've been into, but I'm I'm convinced we can do it and things will get stable, but we basically won't have as much accomplished by midepptember as we had hoped. But the piece that's missing is the other buildings converting to some of the fire stuff and we can deal with that. And in the meantime, their phones will and will be able to let go of the phone chargers from Comcast. So, you know, it's a partial win there. Anyway, >> progress busy stuff. >> Lots of busy stuff and and reconciling bills for things that should have been changed. Getting into accounts that nobody's gone into for 20 years, >> right? try to change the Planefield water tank from in Eversource with Eversource from Planefield Village Water District PO Box 24 Planefield to the town of Planefield PO Box 380. Apparently, you need an act of Congress in 6 months. It is just insane. So, they don't we don't get the bills and then they get mad at us because we didn't pay the bill. >> Disconnect notice, right? >> You know, it is >> amazing how that works, >> right? It's been >> But hopefully we >> amazing. It's not electronically, >> right? I mean, why are you getting a paper >> in this day and age, right? >> It is just Yeah, it's it's been fun. Um, I did have a couple of Richard updates. >> Uh, were you all set, Brad? >> Just going to sit here and laugh the rest of the meeting. >> They did do the repair on the all three of the slate rooms last week. Did you all >> Yes, they did do that. And and there's a check elevator text showing of the Philip Reed tomorrow because the elevator's on the fridge. See, you should keep laughing. That's the only way to look at it. >> A concept not related to highway but but related to facilities. if it ever comes to fruition, a project you'll want to have in your back of your head and be thinking about as select people is I think the Meridan the library trustees are going to walk in using Tony Newton again and say to you what would you think of us paying for solar on the highway garage and you give the credit for the solar the money that you earn to the libraries. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. And so, in a sense, what they're saying is they'd like to they'd like to buy more solar and they'd like it to benefit the library, but there's not a place at the library apparently to put that much. >> There's no good exposure. >> So, it would become a an accounting transaction for the town because they're two different utility companies. They don't talk to each other. You're not getting any credit on your bill. And I don't know yet how I feel about it. What I what Tony wanted to bring the proposal to you and I told him he needed to bring it to the library trustees and the library trustees need to bring it to the board of select >> correct >> and so but this >> maybe right maybe it's a savings to us >> right so in the end >> if you think of it as as I do through the lens of where's the building and the building is one function and the library is the building's a thing the library is a function and that isn't how we evolved Right. Historically they had their buildings but now we the town is running the buildings and they run the operations to to a certain right. It's a well woven thing >> but >> the town owns all the roofs and the town could put solar on some. It needs solar to balance the KW that we're by converting to heat pumps which is absolutely a smart thing to do from an efficiency perspective. You buy an electric bill and if you can, the cheapest and the most efficient way to do all of this is if you produce your own electricity. You can do it on some sites, you can't do it on others. And the fact that what Tony brings to the table is he it his model as volunteers just makes it almost u yeah a decision you can't say no to because it's so cost-effective. So the idea is that the town garage does not have a big electric bill, but it has a very big southern southern facing roof >> and we built the roof to be able to >> we did, right? And so it is ready for it and I would support it on the basic concept that the town through whatever means of accounting is paying for the electric bill at the library. And if we can install, it makes just as much sense to me to install solar on the highway roof and allocate it to a different line item in the account. The physics are the same. We don't buy KW from a power company or we can sell it to them. It it isn't quite as lucrative as if we could produce it and not buy it from Eversource. We still have to buy it from Eversource. will will earn something from New Hampshire Electric Co-op and that's how the accounting gets done. And so it's not as sweet a deal, but there isn't a good place on that side of town at the moment to put a solar array in Eversource territory on property that we own as a community to offset that electric bill at Phil Green. So I think I think there need to just be some you know real discussions going on and then and figure out the handing so that it is so crystal clear because it is a little bit complex. So we'd want it to be so clear to everybody and to >> have this concern. Why is the town not being the electricity put into a, you know, a paragraph or a chart of numbers that you guys can digest very easily? >> So that we can say because we're saving money by doing this, right? That's always >> Well, the other thing too, thinking, you know, bigger picture, >> maybe it doesn't go to the Meridan Library. Maybe it just goes into the fund for the town that could offset somebody else's electric bill. >> Yeah. And I think well I think the issue for them is the library folks want to fund it >> and the library. >> So so they they have a friends group that wants that says we'll buy it but we'd like the benefit to go to this department. >> And so if you think of it >> there would be there would be a check from New Hampshire Electric Co-op. Okay. It would be the net of what the highway department uses minus or the what gets produced minus what the highway uses. They have a program to pay you for that. You get a check each month or a credit. That's the income, the revenue that would show up in an accounting line somewhere. Yeah. >> And then you have an electric bill at Philip Reed. That's a monthly bill you get. You can apply that and know exactly what's come in and you can know what is going out. So you can do the accounting of it and be precise so that they know the library friends whoever funds it. >> They say yes we see this was the cost of the rate. This is what the the highway garage used. So we're not subsidizing that. Now, yeah, I think you could split that and make a direct installation be just the highway if you want, just divvy up the panels on the roof. But regardless, there is a a way to make take advantage of that south facing roof >> and bring revenue into the town that offsets an expense and the investment is somewhere between 8 and 12%. You know, return. It's a it's a financially smart thing. The town just isn't in the business typically of thinking of investments, >> You know, you so nicely. >> Yeah. Sorry. So, just just be thinking about it and know. >> I mean, the library trust just met and and they're hiring a new director, so I could see it could be a little while before they they get this on their plate. But Tony and his group, and they did a wonderful job at the Meridan Library and and in many places around town, they are very enthusiastic. So when they get when they get focused, they want to start putting panels on the roof tomorrow and that's just simply not going to happen. There's a process that has to have be followed. >> Is there a reason why this has to be tied specifically to the library? >> Because they're paying for it. They're the ones who because but because the there's an RSA that we do not we can't say what the library does or does cannot do. >> Oh the trustes are in charge of the library. So we can't just say well we're going to do this. >> I think you could right because but I don't think you >> because you're not touching their operation. >> Well well but the key is they're buying the >> I'm not saying you want to. I'm just >> I'm just saying the town is capable of it. So, say it was a Warren article. >> We want to spend x thousands of dollars to put a solar array on the roof. >> And the community says, "Okay, maybe. Why would you want to do that?" Because we have a bunch of expenses and we can put that revenue against expenses. >> They can ask which expenses and they can mandate that they be targeted to a certain thing. And if the voters pass that, I think that's right there. Yes. Right. They think if we bring it to town meeting, that's exactly what I think. Yeah. So, let's get it to go right smoothly and see what we get. I'm happy to work with Tony, okay, just as I did on the last one to get the presentation materials straightforward and simple and clear and and he will be there to answer whatever questions you want to ask of him and I'm happy to to be prepared to answer whatever else about it. >> Okay. I mean, it sounds like a good idea for sure, but >> yeah, think about the building. Yep. does for the building, what it doesn't >> That's why we beefed up that roof so that we could at one point. >> Um, Richard just wanted you to know that, uh, he's met. >> The roads that we've approved for paving are are nearly ready. Baines Road, Meridan Village Water District has been changing out a manhole that had failed. And so, that I think is done. Rich had a had a catch basin for drainage water that he had to work on. So, that's been done. Um, the only negative news on the paving, we we have a price. Pike will hold to that price. They're not going to get to us until mid-occtober. >> So, we shoot for Columbus Day usually, and that's mid October. >> You know, we want it done by Columbus Day, but both roads, they think they'll do the whole project in one day. Okay. >> Um, I mean, there's there's two little spur roads. I think it's probably a day a little more than that, but by the time they move the PA three times, uh, but they're done. um Main Street, which is not us. >> Um but you see the state has finished its work. As I understand it, the surface you have there now is the surface you're going to have going forward. >> They're not going to pave this year. They're not even sure they'll pave next year. I mean, the state Ross Wood is our contact with the state and and um he would definitely want to let it sit a year and have traffic compact it. It's already sinking in a few places, you know, even though good compaction was done and at the moment it is not on next year's paving schedule. Um, so that that looks like we had open heart surgery on Main Street. The scar will be there for a bit. It will fade and and and and look a little less um obvious as as it does now, but Meridan Village is at peace again. You can get to the post office. You don't have to go jealous road um and and all of that is is good. Um Rich is touching up some grading. He has had a very good summer with ditching. They've done a ton of ditching. Um and they're continuing to do that. Um he's, you know, I think we'll at the next meeting we'll talk a little bit about fall grading and and what that might involve. Um but basically he's he's got a bunch of that stuff done. He hopes to begin in the next couple of weeks to doing the tree work that they can do. you know, where every community in the state, every property owner in the state has dying ash trees. There's a huge one on Bonner Road that's just trying to fall in the middle of the road. And you know, these things, they seem to have a very >> thin root base that once it rots, the whole trunk just tops over. Um, and there they are. And it's, you know, Granthm, give Granthm credit, 20 25 years ago or 10 years ago, whenever we started a year in 10, the Emerald Ashport, Granthm started a capital reserve fund for treework. Yeah. And so they have money set aside. The rest of us, and including the power companies, are going to deal with them when they're laying on the ground, right? I mean, but Rich is going to try to start taking some of them down. He obviously can't do ones around power lines, and he can't do the ones that, you know, would be in any danger to we'll have to hire those with with tree work or get the electric company to do them. Um the the truck that's on order is supposed to be done the end of September, which is the one of those trucks that was paid for with a grant for the newer diesel versus older diesel. Um we talked about the budget earlier. I think you know the paving is the last big project of the year and that's you know that's roughly we'll spend 60 65,000 on paving. I think the budget's fine. The one place that we will hold some money on is on on the road project line item because we're going to be way over on diesel, right? We didn't anticipate a war and Iran and we didn't anticipate $6 diesel. We so our diesel budget is is exhausted right now with with one quarter of the year to go. >> Easy time right now once he gets done ditching because he uses a fair amount of fuel with that and then you know we have the month of December basically that stuff. But we'll go over5 to $10,000 on diesel. I'm sure maybe more. Um but that's just that's just the way the budget works. I mean that's those kind of adjustments. So we we will just hold some money there. Um he had a couple of little roads that he wanted to pave. We maybe do one and hold the other for for the next year. You know, he had other than the little ones you approved, he was getting prices on Tallow Hill. There was another was it maybe Whitaker? But I think it was it was Tallow and one other that he had that that was was starting that he thought he could make some improvement on with this year's money. >> after Labor Day they're going back to BD. >> Yes. And we're always an then they're not anxious but but yes it's yes they they'll and daylight become begins to become an issue. You know it's already darker in the morning than not not at 6:30 but but it still it still is. Um, in your packet you had Rich's, you know, he's got Mikey cranking out his his monthly report that's available for residents to look at. It's available for um uh you know, anybody that wants to see it. I do think um you you guys I know had had a neighbor come in off of Cutler Road. You've got the decisions. They were in the packet. Yes. >> Um I would hold off any action or thoughts about that until the playing board has had a chance. >> Absolutely. and they're going the end of September because they had the master plan hearing Monday and they just didn't want to have anything ahead of that. >> Yeah. And I don't know and I'll tell you how much action. We were happy to listen. >> Yeah. I'm not sure there's much there's much to do. >> I'm not sure how much this select board you know we don't overision since the last meeting and and put dust control on it. That was I did see in some of the previous older notes that that was one decision the select made and you know I continue to hope that there'll some level of normaly will occur with the house because it's under control it's finished most of the deliveries and things are done >> you know Travis and Avery added a residence so there is there are now two houses where there are one um but >> it's a very difficult case because I understand the abut's concern that It it never used to be like this. But most of the use on that road has absolutely nothing to do with the gravel pit. Absolutely nothing to do with it. Gravel pit is so small. I mean 25 a month. It's not very many loads. 15 max in one day. Um and so it's really it's a it's an accessory pit to his business. But his business generates a fair amount of travis sole proprietor. He he comes and goes every day with his with his tools to do his trade. So, we will let the um residents know that that's happening, that the date's been >> actually the abutter was in on Monday's planning board. Okay. And and what we basically told her, I told her was that it's not a public hearing, >> They would need Travis and Avery's permission to go, but the planning board would certainly be willing to hear from them. It's just it's not a you're not going to get a notice in the mail, right? It's it's a follow-up meeting that was set. Um and it's, you know, I think the planning board is very open to hearing um the concern and trying to help any way we can. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I think if you know, for sake, if we can get, >> you know, we posted the road that we posted the road 25, we we've added, you know, more magnesium. Um Travis and Avery have purchased the the wearing course for the bridge, which was one of the conditions. It's sitting at highway. So >> yeah, Rich mentioned that at the he was here and said, "Yeah, I'm getting to that." >> Right. So Rich is going to put that on, but >> and he thought maybe this past week you would get to it or that past two weeks. So maybe if he can make that a priority, that would be >> just just to get it'd be nice to have it done by the time the planning board is there. I'll give him that date. That'll be a good date because I understand, you know, he said, "I'm going to get to I'm getting to it this week and I know that this is a busy time." >> Well, and and Rich has apparently in the highway crew, we have a great love for fairs. Oh, >> so this is fair season and all of a sudden, you know, and the truth is those guys those guys typically do not take their vacations during the winter. There's no we can't impose that on they're allowed to have vacations, but they don't take their vacations, but they they do darn fair. >> I think that would would go a long way. >> Yes, I I agree. Roadside mowing going very well on the Planefield side. Nearly done. The state would just do a little roadside mowing. That would be good, but the town is is doing its share. Um, and Rich thought that would be done. He thought he would get to the excavation at the annex in the next day or two. >> Great. That would be wonderful. >> Has he mowed over at the annex yet? >> Not as of two days ago. >> Yes. So, we're doing our auto extrication set for September 13th, Sunday morning. So, >> so have them mow it by the 13th. >> Oh, little before that. We're going to move the vehicle and September. Push one of them over to the bank and roll one on the truck and all that stuff before we do the training. >> Be very fun. All right. I um >> just thinking about >> just got to write a note here that I'll remember gravel a pit. Okay, good. And so generally, you know, things are going fine in the highway. No major no major issues. Um and it has been >> gez it's been a nice summer. Yeah. >> For for work. I mean those guys we haven't lost days or weeks due to storms. The weather has I mean I know the country's baking. We've been pretty lucky in the Northeast. You know the night >> is not good. No, it is not. You are someone who doesn't have to work outside 100%. >> It is true. But I I will tell you our badge of honor at our house is in 33 years there has never been an air conditioner in our house. We we open windows at night and we and we close them during the day. But I I I agree. I have the I'm able to sit in here. There may be one a year from now, but but right now there is not one. That is that is true. All right. That's what I had for Rich. All right. Anything from you? >> Um, yeah, we Hildam's been here. Um, we are going to, you know, we'll we'll be talking about this more going into the fall. Playing field is due for a revaluation in 2028. And what you want more than anything else, and no matter what you have to do to make it happen, you should do would be my advice. And I'll come to the hearings. um is you will want George Hildam to be involved in your next rebound. There is no company that's coming to Planefield to do a rebound. There is no one in the state doing rebal. It's horrible for small towns. Um we should have a measuring list. It should be a full measure and list. Um we will send out prospectus um this fall. George has one drawn up to other companies. The really sad part, you've heard me say this before, is a 30-year relationship with Avatar, and they've dropped us. they've dropped most of their small downs. >> It will be an absolute cluster for a new assessing firm, right? Because they will have to understand the properties of which they have no knowledge, whereas George and Avatar have over 30 years of knowledge on those buildings, I think. And and Michelle and I and Sarah, we've been working him hard. George is down to three towns. He's, you know, George is is is is winding it down as well, but I think we'll get him in here in the fall for a meeting with you guys. I think he and Mark, who used to work for Avatar, is now assessor like a contract assessor like George. Um, are considering >> would do the playing field job. >> Um, okay. The two of them would would do it. They would have to hire some data gatherers um and that sort of thing. But if you guys can make that deal happen, there is nobody in the state like Helen. He he anytime you see his work, you know how good it is. And so George is somebody that we want to involve. And if you can get one more rebal out of him, >> I was going to say we'll be lucky because I thought he'd be gone. >> Yeah. No, I I did too, but we've been working him hard. I haven't offered my house to him to stay, but he um one of the things he might like and it would it would be to have a clerk in our office available to help with the with the clerical piece of a rebound. And the person he would be very comfortable with having do it is Michelle if she could do it. Um she'd have to do it after hours and it would have to be a separate contract. Um and I don't know what the dollars would look like, right? But if you even if you hire an outside firm, you get a bid that you could accept and they would come um which no one else is finding right now, you would you would want George in charge of the reval. He would be the guy that that those people would be working for. But the the next big thing on the horizon once we get our computers up to date is figuring out what the 28 reval is going to look like. That's a that's a project that's out there. But George has been in the office. He's got us mostly done um and ready for for you know, believe it or not, fall tax rate, right? September one, MS1 is due. That that's the valuations. He's been doing his reviews as he does periodically on the exemptions. He spent >> most of a day with Singing Hills going through their stuff. He's walked the KUA campus. He understands that. Um we have a couple that are harder locally. Yeah, >> the Graange is a little harder to get paperwork out of as it is every year and the historical society. Um, and so we're trying to, you know, get those people um in interested in in doing the work that they're required to do, but George does this, you know, periodically and so he's doing it now. Um, we do have some models that I think again you guys will get a little more time hopefully in coming up to talk with with Rob. I mean, it's it's common knowledge now that we're going to, you know, we're having another change in our police department. Eric's going to be gone sometime in early October, maybe late September. Um and it looks Rob Dietro's recommendation to you and to me is that we do a contracted services for a while. >> Um that we hire state police will come at $90 an hour and do directed patrols two days a week. And so they would be dedicated officer in our town doing whatever assignment he's been or she's been given. Um the county is $100 an hour. State police is a little bit cheaper. Um, and both those agencies say they could fill in a day or two. I mean, we got to come up with a model that gives Rob a brave, right? Rob, >> well, that's it. And and a model that he, you know, is is clearly in charge, >> right? the other charge, but he needs we can answer. We've already >> The other thing he wants to do is, which I think is a really good idea, is to offer a part-time >> offer part-time shifts >> to to certified New Hampshire, you know, police officers, of which he thinks there are a few around who would be interested at an outrageous rate, be special detail rate, $60 an hour. Um, still cheaper than >> health insurance, no retirement, >> you know what I mean? So it is >> and and the good thing about those people if we could get some is you might develop a relationship with an officer who started working for you and said, "Hey, this is a pretty cool little town. I I might like to come and and and and learn more about it." It's also those officers would use our cruisers where the other two by their own agency rules would patrol, but they would patrol in their cars. And I would much I mean if we could it'd be way better to have an officer in a planeful police cruiser. Um, and so we are, we haven't had a lot of discussion with you guys on it, but Rob and I talk just about every day about, you know, my priority for the town. I think we know what a valuable asset Rob Dero is, and we want him, Officer Deo, Sergeant Dero. I told him, what does Trish think about we just call you Superman Deo? Um, and so he >> it's important to us, I think, that our solution be a solution he supports. Absolutely. You know, I'm not going to come up with anything, >> right? And so, right now, the thought is is that we're going to use a lot of state police and we're going to do some contract officers and Rob will do his 50hour week and we'll see and we'll continue to, you know, to the problem. Keep working. >> So, I I think you just said it's common knowledge. It hasn't been announced in a public session. So, so there may be people listening who are thinking, I did not know that. Um, it will be it will be news to some people. So, It certainly it certainly is circulating around. I'm sure it is. So yes, but >> I just wanted to acknowledge that for the minute that no that you know people are looking through like when was that announced. It it has not been given a date. I was not here on the day >> he hasn't given an official date but you know just so people understand he is he does what all you parents do. He chases his children and he's you know he's found a place in the Carolinas that will be closer to his son. he doesn't like living away from his son family. I think we can all respect that. And so that's that's where he's headed. And um and we'll, you know, we we will continue on. His closing is in early November. He's indicated October. So somewhere around the 1 of October would be my guess. So, so one of our September meetings, you know, if maybe not the first meeting we have would be nice, but to have have um Sergeant Deedro talking about what he his plan >> and his he's, you know, he is as positive about it as he can be. It's a very different situ circumstance than our last time. And so I think, you know, there's not the sense of panic. I mean, I think we we'll be fine. >> We'll be fine. >> Is it a thing to ask keep in session? >> Sure. >> Oh, yeah. I know. I was going to give you that update. >> I think it's on her agenda. >> Good. We are um >> our first candidate was was thinking that her threequarter time job could go full again. So, she didn't accept the job, but we're going to use Karen Johnson who is I think it's Marle Bookkeeping and she does the bookkeeping for the Meridan Library now. She she's and she's actually she will teach us some things about payroll and stuff. She's very knowledgeable in payroll. She's um in dust accounts payable for a couple of different businesses and she's going to start training with me right after Labor Day. >> Excellent. And remind me how many hours a week we're going to use her. >> I have told her I thought it was between 8 and 10. Y >> she says without the phone interruptions and things that we have in the town office. She believes it's a 4-hour job. >> So, >> Oh, good for that. >> So, and her rate is very competitive um in terms of her her company's rate. Um and we we also have um we're going we're going as you guys know we're going to a model where we're going to use a part-time employee for cleaning of down buildings. >> Yes. >> Um and that's going to take place. Um I had a a nice conversation with our long-term um cleaner who's been here for years and explained why we were making the change. They got it. They understood. And so I think we're on a good place there, too. And so we will we will get the bookkeeping thing started and uh you know that'll be an adventure for for all of us. But I think it'll work fine. Okay. >> And if she's really good, we'll see if she wants to do a shift a week and a police career. >> There you go. All right. Well, that is it. We are now going to move into a non-public session. Um right now just the three select board members. Bev Wagger may be joining us at some point who is the RHR consultant for the um pen administrator search. Uh but we're going in with the purposes of uh discussing the two advisory committees um that were forming one of residents, one of of town employees. And so that's what we'll be discussing and uh we will go into that session. We will come out just to adjourn meeting though. So we will not be having more public session. >> I move that we u move I move that we >> change over into non-public session to discuss the committees for the hiring of a new town administrator and that when we come out of non-public session into public session >> that's a beautiful >> it will be exclusively to adjourn the meeting. I second them. >> You have to say everything you said. >> Agree. I second. >> Okay. No, I'm joking. Um, okay. So, now we have to do a roll call vote. So, uh, all those in in favor of Elise. >> Elise Angelo. I >> mean, Len I. We are now in public session. >> And I'm going to go because I'm not involved in that. Um, could you just >> No, I'll end the meeting. Is Is Bev hung up or did you know she's late or >> Oh, Beth was possibly not coming at all. She gave us all the information. >> But you guys have assignments. >> We have assignments and um yeah, it was like one day she had something she