Planning Board Meeting August 25, 2026
The Planning Board approved a tree cutting plan for the Bannery Trust at 135 Lamson Lane, removing 15 hazard trees near the brook and power lines. The vote passed with one abstention. A voluntary lot merger for the Reed family’s property on Little Lake Sunapee was approved administratively; Board Chair Paul and member Emily signed the form. The Board approved the annexation of 13 acres at 553 Pleasant Street to accompany a farmhouse, with the land under a conservation easement held by Ausbon Sargent. The Board expressed support for a comprehensive 10-year Sidewalk Preservation and Improvement Plan, intended to be a living advisory document, pending two minor edits regarding Homman’s Corner and a line extension. The next meeting is scheduled for September 8 at the Professional Development Center due to primary elections.
Okay, we will go ahead and get started. Thanks all for coming. Uh, this is the Tuesday, August 25th, 2026 meeting of the new London Planning Board. Just a reminder that we are recording this session, so you can watch it later or so others can watch it who aren't here tonight. Uh, first up, we're going to do a uh, tree cutting for uh, the Bannery Trust, 135 Lamson Lane. Who would like to talk about that? if you just come on up and then just hit the button so that the light turns green. Thank you. >> So, and I'm happy I told Monica I'm happy to sort of um present why we're here and then she can jump in and answer questions if folks have them. But um while this is a waterfront property on Lampson Lane um that is having some tree work done within the waterfront buffer, the tree work within the waterfront buffer is able to be done um and maintain the minimum of the 25 points required in each cell that we can approve administratively. This property is unique in that it also has a stream buffer that runs the length of it which has a different process for tree cutting as you all remember um where the uh property owner must just present you with a um plan of the tree cutting along the um the stream buffer uh to be approved. There's no point minimums um required. Um it's just a matter of saying these are the trees that we are cutting. Um, so you can see in some of these pictures, Vicki and I did a site visit yesterday with Monica. Um, and you can see some of the debris that's fallen. You can see some of the dead trees um, in here. Um, and these are all hazard trees. It's hard to see, but the power lines actually run through here as well. Um, and so you can see the brook at the bottom here. Um there's still a pretty um vigorous uh tree buffer that will be left once these hazard trees are removed. It is a total of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 trees um in this vicinity. Um sort of spread out on both sides of the driveway from the pictures that you saw. Um and they all seemed like um reasonable removals. um with the vegetation that will be staying in place. >> That's perfect. Thanks, Adam. Did you have anything you wanted to add? >> Uh it's about accurate. It's u large 200 foot or 200 lb limb uh landed right where I park [laughter] go. So, I'm a little edgy about the whole thing, >> but it it Yeah, it would be appreciated because most majority of the cutting there's about five that are on the brook side. The others are on the other side of the driveway for the power line. um doesn't seem to going to be disruptive at all and obviously the uh trunks are the uh roots are going to be left, >> right? Yep. Thank you for that. Um are there any questions from the board? >> Any questions from the public? Any comments? Okay. So, I would need a motion to approve this. >> Yeah. >> Second. >> Okay. Approved. I'm sorry. Motion and seconded. All in favor? >> I >> I Any opposed or abstaining? >> I'm going toain. >> You're going to abstain. Okay. All right. Um so all in favor um and then uh one abstension. >> Excellent. Thanks. >> Then Monica Vicki will um email you a copy of the um approval sometime this week. Great. >> Okay. >> Thanks very much. Thank you. >> Thank you. Um I think I'm also going to the next one that reads >> we're going to do that. Yep. Read. >> Okay. Um so I will also I don't think Ashley read Nope. Come in. So this is um a fairly straightforward volunteer u voluntary lot merger. Um, and so as you remember, um, voluntary lot mergers do not require a public hearing of any kind. Um, it is simply a form that, um, we approve and sign administratively. This is a pretty unique, um, setup that some of you may be familiar with. Historically, this is on the back side of Little Lake Cipe. Um, if you see this tiny little lot here, um, that measures, let's see, it's What is it like 45 feet by 112 feet? This was a whole section of town that was originally laid out. And Clayton, you probably know the the history here more. Mine's regurgitation from Pierre over the years, so jump in if I'm wrong, but these lots were all created and given um the deeds with suits that were purchased in Boston in the early 1900s. Um and so the vast majority of them have been purchased up by one um property owner um and then merged back together and they then um have one piece all the way up in the um the back that they left just sort of ceremonially. Um and then there's the suit lot that um is part of the read application tonight and then one other down on Burnt Hill. But in this situation, the Reeds, who you can see lot nine here, have recently bought this house. They also own um this adjacent suit lot that is not large enough to ever be built on when you take into account setbacks and there's no valuable reason for them to leave it as a independent lot of record. Um so they would simply like to delete the lot line that they share in common with their house lot. >> Thanks, Adam. Uh, are there any questions from the board on this one? >> Adam, just so we know what what standards do we apply for these mergers? >> Essentially, the registry just needs your signature. We really um I don't think you can actually say no to a voluntary law merger um unless there were some very unique set of circumstances that it was unsafe or um something or they're not contiguous if there's something between them. But >> yep, >> thanks Paul. Uh and thanks Adam. Any questions from the public? >> Okay. Uh just like last time I would need a motion and a second. We'd like to >> All right. And can I get a second? >> We'll go with Janet maybe on that one. All in favor? >> I. Any abstaining? Opposing? Okay. Thank you. Um and because we always forget to sign this at the end of the meeting, I'm going to have you and Paul both sign it right now. And then we just need one one additional member. If you want to pass it to Emily, she can be the chosen one. And yeah, Emily, do you mind just signing on that last open line there? >> All right, thanks for bearing with us while we do that paperwork. Uh, all right. Next up, we're going to talk about the annexation at 553 Pleasant. And did you want to talk about this initially? Okay. I thought you had intro. All right, Clayton, you want to come on up? Thanks. >> Sure. This is the u older property. Um it totals about 100 acres more or less with a conservation easement on um most of it all except five acres that was subdivided I think three or four years ago. Um, this is kind of the culmination of 10 years of planning by the older family to pass the farmhouse and a little bit of farmland down to the next generation and protect the rest of the land so it isn't a become a big another big subdivision in London. Um, Osman Sergeant recently acquired a conservation easement on the 92 acres shown and the 13 acres shown that we're proposing to annex. And uh I think the idea was that the the farmhouse should have a little bit of farmland. There's a field there, some old barns, um a little bit of forest land. So it's a the possibility of actually having an active farm with the farmhouse um can happen. And so this we actually planned this annexation out about three years ago. It was all pinned and ready to go. And we're just waiting for the conservation ement and everything else to kind of fall into place. and now it has and um and I think two members of the OR family are going to retain the remaining land in the family. So yeah, so that's kind of it. >> Do you want to do finding effects real quick and then we'll I'll ask for >> sure. I mean if you want to ask for comment um does anybody have questions on the from the board? >> Clayton, I'm sorry. I was trying to get the map up. Did did you say that the uh easement that was purchased by husband sergeant applies to this land that's being >> Yes. The >> the 13 actually end up behind you his is has a conservation easement on it. >> Osman Sergeants reviewed it. I think they're with it. Osman Sergeants reviewed it. They knew this was going to happen. So >> great. I I just didn't know the answer. Thank you. >> Yep. >> Thanks, Paul. Uh questions from the board. Other questions? Okay. From the public, comments, questions. Okay. Now, do you want to do finding facts? Thank you. Uh, so the facts are fairly simple. The two lots meet the minimum um area for the zone of 2 acres, and they each meet the minimum of the 150 foot uh, road furniture requirement. Okay, I'm guessing there are no questions on that. If not, could I get a motion? >> Okay, so moved and seconded. All in favor? >> I any abstaining or objection? Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks, Clayton. >> Uh yeah, we can sign the myar um at the end. We'll put it up here. Make sure don't leave without signing it, everyone. Clayton, did you drop um checks for the registry off to Vicki already or >> what's that? >> Uh we typically do the mailing once it's signed so that we know that it um but uh I can talk to her in the morning and we'll we'll coordinate. >> Okay, awesome. Thank you. All right. Uh, thanks Clayton. Moving right along here, we're going to talk, uh, Adam and Sam are going to talk a little bit about sidewalk plan that is in motion, but it's always fun to get an update. So, um, for those of you who have endured, um, a fair number of CIPs, uh, over the last few years, um, you know that Sam and I have been honing the order of operations of these sidewalk improvements that have been, are we three years into projects now? >> Two, >> two. Um and so with the evolution of how the CIP is represented in the budgeting software, um while the overall display of information in the CIP is much more, um all-incclusive, it has made it difficult to see the details behind the projects and the way that the reports um generate for you, which we'll talk about on Friday at the actual CIP meeting. um you lose a lot of the details that we have put behind there. And so Sam and I just started discussing simply for our own use um how do we sort of keep track of what project is what year? Um because even for us to um have it the usability is not there. And then in the last year the um the current fiscal year's sidewalk project was modified. the section that was under um construction was modified in December or so. Um and because the CIP is adopted once a year, we didn't have a mechanism for recording and planning that change and how that um filters out through the successive years because we can only change the CIP in the summer and then you adopt it. And so we started talking about doing a more comprehensive 10-year sidewalk plan that really just puts um actual narrative to each one of the projects that on Thursday you will see represented in the the CIP for the next 10 years, but then also gives Sam and I an actual living document that we can um edit and modify as we go along. Um there's no this is not like an official plan that you have to have by any state standards. Um, so while it's not something we're looking for you to um adopt in a way that um doesn't allow us to change as we need to change in the future, we're hoping that we can have this sort of live as an advisory document that the planning board supports. Um, and so that we can sort of use this as our north star in sidewalks. Um, and so that's sort of the plan for why we're here is so that there's something that lives on the website that folks can see what is the plan for sidewalks, where are they going next? It's not just this number in a financial spreadsheet that says we're spending $250,000 next year. Why? What is it? What is the benefit? What's the section? You know, what other things might be included in that? So, that's why we're here. Um, I think we're thinking that if we go through the um sort of high level details that that might save us some time on Thursday, too, because I know we have kind of a lengthy amount of um projects to get through on Thursday. So, if we can spend a little bit of time now and you're all more familiar with sidewalks, we might not have to go as deep on that Thursday morning. So, that's our plan. Any questions before we jump in? Period. I haven't had a chance to read this, but just very briefly is are bicycles and things like that mentioned, bicycle traffic mentioned in this plan. >> This particular plan does not get into bike lanes at this point. Um, this plan is is really directly tied with the sidewalk infrastructure improvements that we've been planning for. Um and so at this point um bikes are not a part of this. If we wanted to at some point develop a bike plan, it's probably a much larger planning process because we really don't have any bike infrastructure as of right now. Whereas this is really focusing on how do we rehabilitate and maintain what we have and then make some minor additions in places that they really make sense. So, I think that's a great next step at some point. Um, we're not, at least I don't feel like I'm quite there yet. You might feel differently, but >> wholeheartedly agree with you. >> To Maryanne's question, uh, trying to make this simple and move it forward. If uh do you believe that what you're doing that what we're going to see here uh will adversely is likely to adversely affect any or would change if you were doing the bicycle plan at the same time. I assume the answer is no. That's why I asked the question. >> On the whole, I would say no. But um keep that question in mind as we go through a couple of things and we can highlight a couple spots where Sam and I have um pointed out that there may be some modifications to things we would like for specifically for bikes and it's actually in the first one. So why don't we just jump right in there if you want to go on to page two. >> I want to clarify I want to confirm my understanding of Paul's questions question. Are you essentially asking is there any impediment that will be established in executing this sidewalk plan on a potential bicycle plan? Is that your question, Paul? >> Yeah. I impeded I don't know. that I just said through what they have gone through um do they foresee that what they're proposing is going to adversely affect a bicycle plan if you were doing it at the same time >> and and even if it's sequential >> well I'm I'm asking it at this point >> yeah well I'm adding to it >> I think once we get into the projects we'll answer some of these questions. Um, >> yeah, I think David had a question. I think David had a question before got started. >> Just flip your mic on. Thanks, David. >> Coming down Main Street to Newport Road. We're coming down Main Street and the sidewalk is on the right hand side and the Newport Road is on the left hand side and we have an intersection there. >> How are you going to make that sidewalk go into the intersection and go to the lefthand side? more so than it already does. >> I can't hear you. >> More so than it already does. Like right now, you transition through home >> intersection. And so you're there's a there's a place there that they're not going to be on the sidewalk crossing Little Suny Road into Newport Road. That's a terrible intersection. So how are you going to make the sidewalk available from one side coming down Main Street to the Newport's road on the left hand side? What what about the intersection there? How are you going to how are you going to put a sidewalk there? >> So, maybe we should hold the specifics. I mean, that's a good point to raise, David, but do you want to get to that as you get to that portion of it? Does that make sense? >> That'd be great. >> Is that okay with you? Because they're going to talk about phases about what they want to do in certain phases. Okay. >> And we'll get to that. >> Well, it's it is it's all to do with safety. >> Yep. That makes a lot of sense. >> Absolutely. That's why the plan has been developed. So, if we don't have any other questions, we'll let these guys jump in and start to walk us through it. Does that work for folks? >> Yep. So, um before we even get into the plan too, I just want to mention that, you know, like Adam said in the beginning, this is kind of an evolving document and it evolved before we even put um Inc. on paper by the fact that the paving or the repaving of Main Street in 209 or 30 or 28 when the state decides they're going to do it greatly affected how we are going to approach um redoing the sidewalks as you're seeing this year. in the past year. And so with that, we condensed our plan already to have the main street corridor sections of sidewalk completed by 2029 at the latest. Um so that when the state comes through to repave Main Street, the sidewalks are 100%. So not right after they've paved the road, we're not coming through and ripping it up and putting curb in and all those things. So, you know, like we were saying, it's an evolving document, but on top of that, we're condensing it and also trying to improve it. That's why you're seeing a 10-year plan as well is that we're trying to foresee what the next steps of New London are going to be for pedestrian way and things like that. So, um, jumping right into our like first phase of the project, um, for fiscal year 28 is from Main Street, Cougar Court to Seaman's Road. Um, and again kind of emphasizing on what Adam was saying, it's pretty simple to understand that most of the time sidewalks is just curbing and new pavement, but some of the improvements you're seeing in general is that we're installing curb ramps that are 2 ADA compliance along with widening the sidewalk, which increases um traveling for the pedestrians or somebody that is disabled or needs uh better accessibility along with on the first map that you see there's three triangles. Um those are crossing improvements and those are areas that we've identified either by ourselves or with the assistance already of DOT and started conversation with them of how we can improve those crossing areas um in general along with potential parking improvements um by the common. Um, and so David, I a question I know you are going to ask. I'll try to um preempt in the the blue triangle on um the Pleasant Street and Main Street intersection. And so it's while I think we would love for the scope of one year's sidewalk improvement project to be able to redesign an entire intersection, we do have to live within the the realistic confines of what we have set aside in um each fiscal year for these projects. But as Sam was saying, those blue triangles, they represent the intersections where we want to focus on a little bit more. Um, and so Sam and I have been discussing utilizing some of the funding that um, the town has that's set aside from your registration fees that can go towards transportation to um, get some design consulting services to see what minor modifications we might be able to make at those three to improve the crossings. Um, and certainly in front of Bar Harbor, we were hoping that the bank was moving along on their project a little bit quicker than it seems like they are, and they seem to have a willingness to work with us on um, providing some financial um, partnership there. However, as you all know from sitting through the conceptual a couple weeks ago, that bank is not their focus at the moment. So, um, I don't think that that's, you know, plausible. So, we're going to see what can we do and what can we accomplish. This is the one spot that Sam and I have talked about these improvements not designed properly could be a hindrance to bicycle traffic. And that's why we think it's important to see if we can get some design consultation. Um, primarily the idea that Sam and I have um gone out and looked at right here in front of the old alleyoops over to the common. Um, so sort of directly across from the band stand. if we were to create um some bulb outs. And so you're narrowing the crossing. So essentially the sidewalk kind of um bulbs out to the edge of the parking so that the crossing is just parallel parking to parallel parking. Um that can create some challenges for cyclists who are trying to use the sides of the road. Um, and so that's a scenario where while we may not have a townwide bicycle plan at that point, we want to make sure whatever crossing improvement we're putting in doesn't just create a problem for another user. And that's really the complete streets philosophy is that everything is designed for all users regardless of if you have different abilities or you have different modes of transportation. So any design consultant is going to look at it through that lens. So that's why we're hoping to to be able to utilize some outside services there. >> Adam, [clears throat] Adam, we've talked a lot about the the whatever the the the buildout that comes in in front of the bank. Um, and I think everybody agrees that that is a not a well-designed intersection for any purpose with the parking and sight lines. Um, are you have a difficult thing because you're looking at whether you build the sidewalk there or you wait and build it. Where are you on that? I mean, I I think it's hard to wait for private land owners because I it might just not ever come to fruition. Um and so I think we sort of move with our >> plans. that year. >> Yeah, I think that um ultimately we'll just move forward with um straightening the curb line through there so that the parking in front of um Bar Harbor is it's not reduced, but you're probably going to lose one spot ultimately, but it will narrow the street there, which should help that intersection in general with speed going through it, but also help pedestrian way through there by having a straighter curb line, wider sidewalk, and better um crossing visual. because with straightening the curb there, when you come to the crossing, you should be able to see down the road better. Um, and that's what we're hoping is going to improve that intersection. >> And it would potentially allow folks that are going from Pleasant, whether they're going across to South Pleasant or making a turning movement, everyone kind of has to inch out into the middle of the intersection now in order to be able to see and they're sort of sitting ducks. If the curb actually came out to a safe, >> that's what I was talking about. you have the state involved there. You can't just move it out there, right? >> Correct. And that's um another reason why we would like to seek the um the help of a design consultant so that when we have to go to the state with the plans, we have nicely designed may not I don't think the state's necessarily going to require full-on engineered plans. >> No, I don't believe so. >> Uh but at least we would have visuals that we could show them this is what we'd like to do to get their buy in. And just so that we we understand is this dependent on some agreement with the bank. >> No, I mean I think this figure that you see in here is based on us taking on 100%. >> No, I mean you legally could do it. >> Okay. Correct. >> It's all within our right away or the state's right away. So we're allowed to. If anything, you know, we're moving further away from the private property and more into the rightway of the state that we get to access due to the sidewalks. >> I think the question there, Paul, would then become, do we leave the current northern edge of the sidewalk as close to the building as it is or do we pull the whole thing forward, not knowing what future use is going to come at that particular spot? I mean, I think the bank has been pretty open with not knowing what the future is there. Having a wide sidewalk there might not be a bad thing. If you ended up with a cafe that you wanted to have some sort of a lease agreement to have a couple of seasonal tables, that sort of thing, you could potentially accommodate um something like that for whatever use may come. Even if you just want public street chairs there, or you end up having a little bit more space um that we could do something interesting with. You have to address I'm sorry. You also have to address where you put the crosswalk on Pleasant Street >> because I don't see very many people that can respect the crosswalk and actually navigate through there. >> Maryann, go ahead. >> I'm not sure I understood exactly what we were talking about there. Um, are we talking about the crosswalk um near Spring Ledge Farm near the curve or are we talking where are we talking >> Pleasant Street and Main Street by the Street Building >> which begs the question then about can we move the crosswalk at the curve and has that been considered because it's smacked in the middle of the curve if it were to be moved either closer to Spring Ledge Farm or closer to 74 Main Street or >> we're we're down on the other end, Marian, at the the library. >> I'm sorry. >> The library, Bar Harbor Bank, the KDER building. >> Yeah, I'm not there. I I understand you're talking about that and I'm moving the conversation to if you're going to consider changing that, can you also consider changing that where the current crosswalk is at the intersection of Little Suni Road and Newport Road >> and moving that? >> Stay with us. Okay. Yes. Stay with us for future years. >> We'll get there. >> Future years. >> We're going to walk. It's a >> We're moving down. >> And I have one other suggestion or question. >> Um >> Yeah. Marian, >> excuse me. It seems like we're going to be moving to the next thing. And it seems to me that we need to have listed in the project benefits some reference to the bicycle plan. You know, it's going to be No, >> I think the bicycle plan is not necessarily a short planned thing at this point. >> It let me put it this way. Does the board feel as though some mention some reference to bicycle either accessibility or the the fact that it's going to be part of the benefits delivered by this in the future? I'm I'm really interested in having bicycle appear as a reminder, shall we say, that it's an integral part of our transportation pedestrian engagement. Okay. Yeah. I think um to kind of touch on that a little bit, the thing to remember about this too is it's a sidewalk preservation and improvement plan. And so sidewalks and bicycles kind of don't necessarily go handinand and this is kind of a guiding light for a financial document, not for um bicycles and things like that. So it doesn't like specify road improvements and things like that because you might see those things happen as well. At the same time, when we get to the portion of the plan where we talk about um Parkside Road or Pleasant Street or Seaman's Road, at the same time um sidewalk work is done, you might see road reconstruction work being done at the same time, but we're not mentioning that in here because it's not part of the same plan because this is so specific to sidewalk improvement and preservation. >> So, this is really the scope at a micro level of sidewalks and the pedestrian experience. I understand >> not saying we won't undertake other planning processes at >> so I'm like one click up in terms of my recommendation and you want to stay at a more focused on sidewalk basis >> correct yeah please >> I'm going to be asking questions in future meetings about bicycles [laughter] >> thank you Marian David did you have something you wanted to add >> Did you have something you want to say David >> did you have something you wanted to say I know you're going to get there, but I I feel I just need to say this one thing. Back in 2021 when we we did the master plan under transportation, we still had a discussion back then about that intersection on Little Sunby Road and Newport Road. and and I feel that safety is the number one concern and to get people to that walk the sidewalks hit that area have to go through that intersection and get on Newport Road. Maybe I'm not supposed to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway. Wouldn't it be better if we limited the number of people driving on Newport Road to make a left there on Little Sunby Road and that people on Newport Road just went right through to Main Street, but they can't stop and go to Little Sunby Road. That's where the intersection becomes hazardous and not safety for the people that are working. I I think the difficult part with that, David, is that it's a state road and we don't have the jurisdiction to control that intersection in the means that you're talking about. Um, you know, the town doesn't have an urban compact in that area. So, we really have no control over that intersection. So, we kind of have to make do the best we can based on the safety we can implement with our sidewalks, with our signage, with our crossings and things like that. And that's why we've over the last couple years been trying in that intersection area to like try different crosswalk techniques and you know improving the sidewalks and improving the visibility in that area. But we are limited just because it is state controlled. So it's difficult for us to handle it in that situation. The only way that I could see being able to handle that in a longer term plan would be to add c uh sidewalk to the other side of the street. So both sides of Main Street the full length and then you could have a crossing before you get to the Newport road crossing but that obviously requires a road layout and design and then a lot of infrastructure change and a lot of addition of curb and sidewalk and then we have to have also the blessing of the state on that. So it's that's a longterm goal I think of the town probably would be to have sidewalk on both sides of Main Street the full length. But I think that it's you have to weigh what is the um how often is it traveled, how many crossings are there, and then how many incidents are related to that intersection. But >> thank you. >> Yeah, thanks David. So we're going to get to some of these other intersections as we move down. So let's keep keep track. >> So fiscal year 29 is the next one on >> page three. Um, and so in this you'll see that there's um a section of the um road that is illuminated orange and then two blue um bookends on either end. And um Bob and we have other paper copies. I'm sorry it's hard to keep it up on the screen if you want back to them. >> There's two here if you want paper copies. >> Sorry, I meant to put them over on the other side. It's easier to keep the monitors running when I'm not the one speaking. >> Um, so thanks. >> Um, on page two there, um, the blue represents areas of sidewalk that are not currently in towned existence. Um, and so that's an important caveat. and that the eastern most blue section there um in front of the just directly across the street right here in front of the village green. You might think um there's a sidewalk there. There is a sidewalk there. It is a privately owned section of sidewalk that we do not maintain. We don't plow it. Um it is it was put in by the private land owner many many decades ago. Um and so at some point it would make sense for us to own that last what 75 ft maybe >> maybe yeah maybe 75. >> Um and actually reach the crossing that goes from this side to the other side. So that's that blue section there. And then on the far end, um this is a section that runs from um Bonan architecture down to the corner of Parkside, which is sort of the um missing tooth between um Parkside and the sidewalk on the south side of Main Street. Um and so David, this really does illustrate though that um in a similar fashion to the forced crossings at Little Centipe Road, we are looking at how to eliminate those forced crossings. Um because someone coming on Parkside right now, even if they're headed to Blue Lon, they're forced to cross in order to safely walk just to cross back to go to Blue Loon. Um and so ideally, we would be able to round the corner and connect over these last three properties. so that we could fulfill that that section. Obviously, the parking at Bonan um is unique. Um we may not end up with a fully curbed sidewalk the length of their building. It may be just like when um before uh uh Pella Windows was um there when it was Lady Peas and the sidewalk just went to um surface and they backed over it. That may be all we get there for a while, but we're hoping to have conversations with the building owner and talk about, you know, how could we potentially, if you bring the sidewalk back next to the building and add parallel parking there, could that um some of those spaces be sort of traded there? Obviously, getting rid of people backing into Main Street out of their parking spaces would be a um a double advantage. Um, but it may not be a perfectly curbed sidewalk from one intersection to the next, but we're hoping to sort of improve upon that. And then obviously the next building has one driveway curb cut, but is a fairly substantial um section that could be a curbed sidewalk. >> Correct. >> Um, anything else on that section or are we good to move on to year three? Yeah, let's do it. Thank you. >> Page four. >> Yep. So, the third year 2030, [clears throat and snorts] >> do you want to >> Could I just Yeah. ask a quick question? Um, you've now gone both ends of Main Street in the planning for the crosswalk, say, at the at the uh gazebo. >> Will that be part of that project? Yeah, hopefully that will be part of basically next summer and you know the following spring of you know 2028. So >> yeah, absolutely. >> And so that's where Sam was saying before the the idea is to finish Main Street by the end of fiscal year 29 which could actually end up being because you were trying to even if the state speeds up if their construction season is the fall, you would try to do it in the spring. >> Yeah, correct. Yeah, it's going to be based on, you know, the state also changes things whenever they choose necessary and based on community input. Um, so this plan could be modified or we might end up having part of Main Street paved while we're doing sidewalk construction. We're hoping not to. The state's been really uh gracious to work with us as much as they have been um and understanding that we need to get this sidewalk work done as well because it is within their um rightway. And so it if we don't bring it to ADA compliant and they start to pave the road, they have to do partial implementation and we don't want anything kind of chopped up. So we're trying to just keep it all smooth and clean from one side to the other. Um so going on to fiscal year 2030 that completes um the main street corridor that we have at this time for planning with those improvement to crossings and also the possible extensions that we talked about or that Adam just talked about. Um and what you see in 2030 is that we're planning to do a Newport Road sidewalk preservation plan. And it won't be like we've done on Main Street where it's a total reconstruction. Newport Road still meets ADA compliance. It's just starting to age out in the sense that it needs to be repaved. Um the state obviously just went through and repaved Newport Road this year. We did not have to do any curb work um which is nice. So, it should increase pedestrian traveling um along with ADA compliance because the stamped concrete or uh pavement that's there now is not necessarily ADA compliant as it is because of the fact that as it's aged the um cement has or excuse me, the asphalt has uh shrunk and it's made it so it's very like porous and bumpy. Um and so what we're trying to do is remove that and then just repave without having to replace um curbing and all that. So um and so part of the we don't have a lot of latitude to switch which fiscal years any of these projects fall in because of the the planning that's gone into it. But one example of why this project comes directly after the last two is that we recognize that by condensing the um the main street sidewalk plan. The next two years are relatively expensive. Um you know they're well over $200,000. And so by having this be the project that follows that third year, it's a cheaper project. It's only about $100,000. So, we've put that um that thought into the planning as far as um how do we make this most palatable to the capital reserve long time long term. Um um so then if you look at page five and fiscal year 31 um this looks starts to look to some of the side streets um and the um the existing infrastructure there and similarly to um what Sam was just talking about on Newport Road. It's a lot of preservation and um rehabilitation of existing infrastructure. Um you will notice the one um blue triangle there that is at the Kder Cleveland Kluff um trail crossing. Um we've discussed that it would be nice to have something a little bit more formal for trail users to be able to safely cross the street there. Um Sam even pitched the the idea of maybe we could um squeeze out potentially a couple of parallel parking spaces. That is all very planning level stages. don't take that check to the bank. Um but those are the the types of things that would be um nice to be able to accomplish along with that so that folks have good pedestrian access not only to um use the sidewalks as a means of transportation but as recreation >> Adam um with regard to Seaman's Road are you talking about extending the sidewalk farther than it is? No. >> No. No, not this time. The drawing that we have ended up getting a little overrun, so that might be what you're looking at, but it would just continue to stop at the um the cottage lane intersection there. Yeah. >> So, you wouldn't be Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Uh Adam, >> although I do think as devoted as Emily is to walking, she should have a sidewalk all the way to her [laughter] house. >> they there's been things in online and stuff about the crossing at uh >> I don't know what the name of the road is, but on Pleasant Street there, >> Birch Acres and Job Sean Acres. >> It I use it all the time. It's dangerous. And you know, there's a nice sidewalk all the way up there and then it's no man's land and there's a lot of kids on those streets. >> Yeah. So, actually, I'm happy to talk about that as well because it's not in this plan because it's currently happening as you'll see some pedestrian and crossing improvements there in the next couple weeks. Um, last week our crews went out and cleared some brush and removed some trees that were blocking line of sights. Uh today the crews were actually out and they painted the crosswalk and it's been painted yellow instead of white. Kind of what we talked about last year. So it will improve visibility for travelers on the road. Um along with we're adding two uh illuminated crossing signs as well along with in street um crossing warnings. So in the next two weeks you'll see the signage um and those go in. And then in the fall we're looking to replace the covert at the end of um Birch Acres. And what you'll see there is that where the crosswalk um crosses from the sidewalk over to the Birch Acres side, it kind of just lands in a ditch and that's obviously not very safe for pedestrians. So, what you'll see is we're going to actually realign that cross uh the culvert and allow it there to actually be a pedestrian landing on that side and kind of a partial sidewalk to get you into Birch Acres. So, as a pedestrian, you're getting off and out of the intersection quicker and safer. So, um that's not in the plan just because it's happening right now. So, >> well, I think that's great and I I it wouldn't hurt to get a little bit more um publicity about that. >> Yeah. Um >> I mean, everybody will see it, but >> it does tie into these what you're doing here. >> Yep. Absolutely. Article on municipal matters or something. >> All right. Six. >> Yep. So, 2032 fiscal year. Um those of you who have been on the board long enough remember that um the extension of Parkside Sidewalk was part of the deal with the continuum developers. Um obviously that project is um not going anywhere. Um and so we will not be able to um rely on the private um investment in the sidewalk. Um, so that is the other than the preservation of the existing Parkside sidewalk, that is a a primary goal for this is to extend the sidewalk all the way to Lion Brook so that um in the development that is relatively concentrated number of people that live there, they would have um the ability to get on the sidewalk if they want to go over to the um the outing club or to the Nightell nature. um they would have that um pedestrian access that um connects the recreational opportunities with pedestrian from motor transportation. >> And the nice part about projects like this is in this area um the roadway is pretty wide. We actually have a deed to that road and the project itself is relatively simple based on the fact that there's not a lot of driveway accesses and things like that. So you get basically a really nice long extension of your sidewalks for a really good bang for your buck. So, which is always excellent. >> All right. Page seven, >> just the bottom. Oh, yeah. Okay. Um, yeah. So, in 2033, at the bottom of page six, you'll see that we just do um networkwide sidewalk maintenance. The reason we kind of dropped that in there is that the sections of Main Street that we have already worked on are going to start needing maintenance already. We're already doing maintenance on the um section of sidewalk that we installed last year. And so we want to just make sure that we're continuing to preserve what we have, what we've installed, and maintaining it so that, you know, we're not doing these major reconstruction projects every 10 years because we're letting things, you know, go too far and fall apart or become out of compliance. That's the other thing with um ADA is that every year there's a board that reviews ADA requirements and they're updating that. And so we technically don't have to change those until something in that area forces us to change it. But I don't think that that's the mindset the town should have. It should be as things um improve, we should try to chase after that with ADA. So if something were to change, it would be covered under that like 2033 network sidewalk maintenance plan would be to try to upgrade things that need to be upgraded and uh maintain the things that we already have. So, >> this would also allow for um a little bit of focus on some of the Elen sidewalks. I think they're often the forgotten sidewalks. Um and so they are they're really the newest full like redo. Um but they'll be needing some maintenance, too. So, they'll be getting some attention. >> Yep. Um on page seven, you'll see where we kind of go to network uh Newport Road uh corridor engineering. And you see that in two areas because it talks about the engineering and then the expansion and the phases of the expansion. Um obviously this is something that AM and I have come up with ourselves. This is not the directive of the selectman or something like that. So this could change but this is where we see a need for um additional sidewalks on both sides of the street to improve infrastructure and crossings. It's one of the areas where we get the largest amount of feedbacks from um users of the businesses, but also the businesses themselves talking about how they'd really like to see crosswalks on Newport Road, but at the current state we're in, we can't just put a crosswalk in that lands nowhere. It needs to land on infrastructure. Um and so what you'll see over the next like two pages is that we're talking about adding um sidewalk on both sides of Newport Road. Then you'll see the implement implementation of that cost um of the engineering and then the actual expansion of that. >> So and David, this is where um where your point of the sidewalk at Little Sunipe um is addressed. And so while we may not have the um the ability within this 10-year plan to add a sidewalk to the south side of Main Street for the full distance all the way to Homeman's Corner, we are looking at the potential of adding that on the north side. So that maybe that does cut the crossings in half simply by somebody may already be on the north side. They would still have to cross Little Suny Road because we're always going to have side streets that come off, but they wouldn't have to do the funny cross Newport Road and then cross Little Sun Cipe Road if we were able to um to pull that off. Um and then another key part of this um is the um the Robert Bowers extension to Fenwood um that we would like to extend from the um the end of the existing sidewalk actually going to the bog if possible. Um, as you're all aware, on a Saturday, the BOG parking lot is at capacity. If we had a pedestrian um, connection, people could park elsewhere, whether they use public parking, um, if they're going to Hanfords and then they want to walk down and go to the bog or the hospital or the gallery or all of these other places. If they had a pedestrian access, presumably if you're going to the bog to go for a walk, you're okay with walking a little bit further. um if we could sort of help facilitate that without um the conservation commission or the town having to um expand a sidewalk or a um parking lot rather um in a environmentally sensitive area um as it is and and we recognize that the implementation of that is not an insignificant sum and it's we don't know exactly what that sum would be. um you know Sam put pen to paper as far as making some estimates but the engineering um is going to provide us a lot more information there. >> Yeah. And the difficult part with that too is that again we're talking about state roads that we don't really have control over. So they have a lot of infrastructure in those roads that we don't necessarily want to take on the cost of or the ownership of. But on the other hand we want sidewalks installed. So it does become this kind of give and take and it becomes a little bit difficult when we get into the nitty-gritty of what the cost is. but then also the planning of it in general. Um, I do think that like Adam was saying, the extension of Newport Road, but then the addition on the side with Bar Harbor and 74 Main and the lamp lighter and the co-op and all that, I think that that would really be um a benefit to the town and then the users of the sidewalk and such. So, >> can I can I I mean, I think I think this is a great road map start, walk map, whatever. Um, but I think I would agree with David that we at least have to give some thought to uh the Newport Road main street within this 10 years. Like I I think I think we you know we we need to see if there aren't some simple things that'll make it safer and if that you just you know spitballing if that means that Newport Road comes down that sidewalk comes down and goes a couple hundred feet down Main Street and there's a crossing there. I mean, and that at least that would, I think, encourage people to be safer than trying to take on that inter intersection. I think the intersection's bad enough for cars. It you put people in it and it's it's scary. >> There's I I don't know what the solution is and I don't I don't think you can, you know, there's a lot of issues, but we should be able to make that safer somehow. >> Yeah. Adam and I have talked about um the like pedestrian controlled rapid flash beacons there and if we could convince the state to allow us to put them there that could help just as far as you know similar to what's at Hilltop and Hannerfords where you push a button and it starts a rapid flash beacon and then allows you to cross safer because the motor vehicles can actually see that. Um that might be an option. The other thing that the state has kind of made us more aware of too is um intersection lighting in general. just having better illuminated uh crosswalks, especially for the early morning walkers and the evening walkers. Um so it's definitely on our mind. It's not something that we've put like ink to paper on yet. Um but the feedback to hear those things is good because we'll work on that as well as when as we refine this document and modify it over time and that's the beauty of this. So and I think Paul, one place we could put that is in um fiscal year 34 in the Newport Road engineering. Um, instead of just saying the roundabout to H Homeman's Corner, we could say the roundabout including Holman's Corner and and expand the scope of it a little bit to go whether we we can look at the maps and come up with a measurement, but 200 feet or you know, whatever it may be around the corner. Um and then it could be that um whether phase one and two can accommodate whatever potential solutions may come out of that engineering um or year 10. Right now we put year 10 in here sort of as a a placeholder. Um you know 9-year sidewalk plan doesn't have quite the same ring as a 10-year plan. Um and so we put year 10 in as a placeholder, but maybe year 10 really next year becomes the um phase three implementation for the main street end. Um and as Sam was saying, that's the best part about having this additional document is we can continue having those planning conversations at a time that's not July, August, September with the CIP. We're under the gun to get this adopted and approved. >> Every time I walk Hullman's Corner and stand there, I keep thinking, is there a way we could widen that island a little bit in the middle to make that a safer place to go? Because you can't you can't put a crosswalk between Spring Ledge and Homeman's Corner because then if you go across the street, there's no place to put a sidewalk right where that Bonafiglio building is. But if you got people in at the end of the sidewalk into the island and then came across to take to meet the sidewalk, would that make any sense? Is that something we could do? >> I think that that's it. It's potentially yes. Um I think the hardest part is just again I I sound like a I feel like a broken record saying that you know it's a state controlled intersection and it does make it difficult but I don't think that it's out of the realm of possibility. um it the area like the refuge area in the center of that island and that's I think where you're kind of pointing to where the gardens are and stuff. I know that there was some issues with that when they installed it in general that the state was kind of like didn't want it. Um but I don't think you know as district engineers change and things like that and we modernize and ADA um becomes better that I think it's something we can revisit and have those conversations with especially like Adam was saying when we get into the Newport road corridor engineering um I think that that's where we might see the refinement of those things where you know an engineer we only have so many ideas and so many options that we can come up with but you know exactly and you know they may be able to design it better along with what Adam was talking about where if we had if we can add sidewalk to both sides of Newport Road and it comes all the way down to the to the little Sunipe, that's where we might get to redesign that entire island and maybe it becomes like a two-way crossing island. And so it just would naturally have to become larger, but it becomes an area where you're more visible and more protected. So I think that there is the potential of that just by nature. And I think one spot, you know, so if we add in the engineering on this section in here, one potential scenario that could exist is that they actually redesign the intersection so that it works more like a tea and the island is not there at all. And so it sort of forces traffic to come around the corner and then make a harder right-hand turn. And I think while we don't have as much control over that, I think Sam's right, the state does not love islands in those situations. And so they may be more agreeable to taking them out. They're difficult for maintenance. >> For plowing is the issue. >> I think it's plowing and pedestrian safety. And I think you end up with a potentially higher um speed uh collisions when someone can essentially keep going straight versus when they have to touch the brakes in order to safely turn right. Even if they end up hitting someone or something, they're at a slower speed. Um and so I think there are potentially small modifications that could be made. And even just looking at the um you know the tip down that we have here that presumably is a similar width to what's there. if this lane didn't have to be here as sort of a whole another lane, we may be able to shift the the road layout a little bit to sneak out the what two feet that we would need to hug that corner. Um and so I think that's a worthwhile um modification to change the description so that in year 2032 three four um that that is looked at um comprehensively. >> Thanks. Can we hear Ashley? You want to say something? I just want to ask a very uh clarifying question. I believe I am correct. Not only is Newport Road a state road, Newport main Newport Road Main Street, but Little Sun Cipe is also a state road. >> Little Sun Cipe and Main Street are technically the same road state side because it's all 114. >> So I think that's important as we're thinking about things that this isn't necessarily a towned road meeting a state road. That entire intersection is all state. Yeah, >> great point, Ashley. >> David. >> Yeah, David, you had a question. >> One more statement. >> Yeah, please. >> There's a solution here, Sam. Put a bridge [laughter] from Main Street over to Newport Road. The cars can continue to go and the pedestrians can walk over the bridge and be safe. >> Are you opposed to Vegas? >> Because I like tunnels, too. But okay. >> [laughter] >> li blimps are also effective, >> right? >> Thanks, Stephen. >> Yeah, [laughter] Montreal. Nice. Uh, did Yeah, Marian, >> I appreciate this, you know, being having a chance to review this. It really appears as though you've put a lot of thought into it and um you know trying to catch all the marbles at the same time while they're flying around um is very challenging. >> Yeah, it's been a fun project for both Adam and I. It's kind of been nice to work with him as a team on this, especially he's good at kind of implementing it on paper and um you know, we're gonna I'm kind of brainstorming prices and numbers and things like that while he's taking notes and then fielding questions from the public and things. So I think we make a pretty good team on that and you know we have a lot of as you said marbles kind of coming at us in from different people and different ideas and it's kind of like you know the sign of a good negotiation is everyone being mildly unhappy but we're trying to really make as many people happy as we can here because it is you know such a it's near and dear to a lot of people's heart but it's also there's some frustration there over the last many years of where sidewalk infrastructure wasn't really changing and we weren't seeing a lot happen there. So um we're doing the best we can but we're happy to be doing it. Amazing. Thanks. Um, any other questions from the board? Comments. Again, this is going to be a living document, so I think it'll be nice to watch it evolve. Yeah. You know, over uh over time. So, um, yeah, appreciate your efforts on this. Do we have questions from the public? Yeah, come on up. >> Only if you're nice to us, Bob. Just Bob, just make sure the [laughter] right just make sure the lights on. >> I thought he was going to >> um as perhaps one of the marbles you just referred to. I really appreciate what you've done. This is a comprehensive deep schematic look and I understand exactly we're going and I appreciate it because that's what we've I've always felt we needed done. It may take more than the 10 years you got out, but you got a plan that you can modify as you go along. Perfect. I will take the chance to throw out a couple of ideas. The Newport road thing, you may remember that uh 103A butts up on County Road and years ago the state was willing to put in stop signs on a state road. they might be willing to consider a stop sign in both directions on Maine and Newport. Doesn't cost a lot of money. Really makes it a lot safer probably. Uh I would hope you are considering I didn't quite see it, but I think you were talking about extending the Newport road sidewalk on the south side um down toward the barn. And I know there's a little width problem there, but if you look at the map, it looks like you got 5T that touches the post for the house, but you can probably do that. But overall, uh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Wonderful. Other than the brick sidewalk at the town green, which I will >> Maybe you'll see something. You're making me get at that a year earlier than I thought. So, >> yeah. Try to beat you to the punch. >> Thank Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, >> Bob. While you're at the podium, I'm going to show you the the design. >> Don't walk away, Adams. I'm going to show you. >> I'm sorry. Were you sorry? >> I'm going to show you the design scheme that um >> Oh, >> that we both like that. Come on. >> A little faster. >> I know. Seriously, the So, Stow Vermont has recently redone a lot of their um crossings and um I went to the planning conference there last year um when they were brand new. Um and this is a maybe a compromise situation where you get some of the um the brick aesthetic in spots, but then the main sidewalk is actually and I know you probably really love the concrete. I don't know if we would if we would get the concrete. Um but the idea being that while no one material may be perfect in every setting that there may be an opportunity um especially in like oops sorry let me zoom out a little bit in the bulboutouts like this if we were able to accomplish a similar bulbout in front of alioops over to the band stand we might be able to incorporate some of those materials that um give it a dressed up look that's not simply the asphalt >> if if you were able to come up with something that was more aesthetically pleasing, drawing people to town, making it more comfortable and feeling better for people in town. I mean, that my brick sidewalk idea is a, you know, fine now that you asked me back, you idiot. The yellow crosswalk that you talked about, I believe in Elkins. There's one. >> Yep. We have multiple in Elkins. Yep. I believe in I was in either handover or Lebanon. Can't remember where it was. Hanover. I was in Hanover. No, I was in Lebanon. >> Sorry. >> Lebanon has painted all >> Lebanon has orange. >> Yep. They're part They were able to do that in even on state roads because they're an urban compact. So, they've taken on the responsibility of the state road. We did try to twist the state's arm to let us try it at least and they >> could you just do it and then when they call you say we went to the hardware store and we asked for white. [laughter] You can ask the city of Franklin how that went. They tried that. Didn't go well. >> Thank you again. Thank you so much. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> The sidewalks just for this year by spring where it's wide. >> Oh, sure. >> And maybe we can just show. >> All right. One quick addition here. Is that what I'm hearing? And then >> Well, I'm pulling it up. You can >> Yeah. Um, so something to Bob's point, but then also just in general interest of like the sidewalks and intr improving how they look and travel and just being more enjoyable in general. Um the area that we're doing right now in front of Spring Ledge is like exceptionally wide and we've purposely left it very wide. It used to be, you know, you had a 48 inch sidewalk, then you had this dirt path that was kind of in between the curb and the pavement. We've chosen to pave all of that. So you're going to have like a 7 foot plus wide sidewalk there. But obviously we don't want just a sea of black asphalt. And so we've talked with Greg, the owner of Spring Ledge, about if we were to purchase some planters and put them on the curb's edge, would he then plant in them and then maintain them so it' increase the like, you know, just the beauty of it, but also as a pedestrian walking on the sidewalks, you wouldn't be walking right on the edge of the curb and you would kind of have this planter as a buffer. That's also an idea that we're talking about maybe implementing here in front of like the common and things where you already have a pretty wide sidewalk. If we make it slightly wider, we could install seasonal planters and then plantings and things like that. it would kind of act as like a guardrail, a buffer, but also just make the main street corridor a lot more like visually appealing. So, >> and we're trying to look for vendors that sell a line of um basically street equipment that are all um tied in. So whether it's new benches or trash cans or recycling or planters that they from one end to the other have the same aesthetic. That's great stuff. Um, thank you guys. Any other comments or questions from anybody? Really appreciate all the hard work on this. It's fun to to look at this in more detail. Excited to see how you guys evolve this over the years, too. >> And so, I guess the question would be, are you guys um you know, we will certainly make the um the two edits that I had were the um making sure the inclusion of Homeman's Corner and then the one picture where the line vector got extended down to Emily's house. Coincidentally, um [laughter] if we make those two edits, are you um we can certainly bring back a a um edited plan, if you want to take a ceremonial vote of support, or if you're comfortable doing it now, conditional upon those two edits, you're welcome. >> I don't think there's any reason to make you guys come back. Okay. Um I something >> I don't have to come to >> I've seen this, but uh yeah, exactly. Adam, >> you guys would people like to do a a vote of support for this plan? >> Absolutely. >> Yeah, I figured as much. Um, okay. Well, let's let's do that. Could I get a motion then if assuming folks are in support? >> Have the uh planning board um register its approval of the 10-year sidewalk preservation improvement plan. >> And who had a second? I'm sorry, Emily. Thanks. Okay. Uh, all in favor? >> I opposed abstaining. Okay. Thanks everybody. Appreciate it. Thanks for all the hard work on this, guys. >> Um, okay. >> That's the last of the agenda items. Um, you all know that we have a longer morning on Thursdays, so we'll start here at 8:00. Um the [laughter] the sidewalks are a big portion of that. So we've made it through a big portion. So you'll get to focus on all of Sam's other fun equipment um instead. Um so that is here. And then just be aware that on September 8th, our meeting coincides with the um primaries. So um that meeting will be at the professional development center. So keep that in mind. >> So everybody hear that? September 8th SAU. And if you think you can't be there for September 8th, um if you have any election responsibilities, if you could just shoot me an email so I can keep >> Yep. Okay. >> Okay. Well, thank you. We now we just need a motion to adjurnn. >> All in favor? I. Thanks everybody.