Hanover School Board Meeting 09/09/2026
SPEAKER_1 postponed approval of NHSBA resolutions to the October 14 meeting. They tabled the retainage discussion until a future special meeting. Brett Derek reported special education out-of-district placements are projected to exceed the budget, partly due to one unbudgeted student placement. The district has a special education reserve fund of just over $300,000. Board members discussed two retainage options for the tax rate: applying $980,000 to offset taxes (7.48% increase, $99 per $1,000) or returning $1.1 million to taxpayers (7.12% increase, $96 per $1,000). No vote was taken. Ben and Carrie were appointed as AP approvers starting October 1. The board entered non-public session at 8:20 p.m. and adjourned at 9:06 p.m.
We're just kidding. >> You can go ahead. >> We have quum without you. >> We have a quorum without you. >> We don't. >> So, our first item is agenda review. And I was going to suggest and had this conversation that we postpone the approval of the NHSBA resolutions to our October meeting. We will have discussed them in the Dresden meeting later this month. I can give you some a little bit of a heads up, an overview when we get to uh the business requiring action which is in under item five, but I don't think we need to vote for on it tonight. So, there'll be that change. Yep. >> I have a second agenda request. >> Yes, sir. >> I'd like to table the retainage discussion until we have a special meeting prior to the next meeting. Also, that special meeting has not been announced yet. will be by the current chair. >> Okay. So that is approving the retainage amount and also the retainage amount items five and six. So does anybody have any other items to suggest we move around? Okay, hearing none. At this point we have the opportunity for members of the public to address the board. If it's an issue that we'll be discussing later in the agenda. We ask you to wait until that point, but if you have something that you'd like to raise at this time, feel welcome to do so. Is there anybody on Zoom? >> No. >> Okay. So, we are moving on to the principal's report and our principal is evening to go home. So, so she does have her report uploaded, but she will not be attending tonight. >> Okay. So, I just invite the board to take a look. I know this was a little bit late. >> Yes. >> She uploaded out probably she had a little >> So, I am literally looking at it for the first time right now. And I do note that at our last board meeting, one board member asked Kelly to include the um a little bit more information in terms of enrollment and that seems that it's there now. And I don't know if anyone who has looked at this already has something to add. Um, I do note that it's in simply so people can read it. It's not there's no new information in here. I do like the fact that there was apparently a fair store pond last week and I saw it there when I was driving home on Sunday. That was pretty exciting. >> Any questions or comments about this? Yep. Um I think uh I think I was the enrollment person uh asking just for the the target class sizes. It's in our board policy, >> but anytime enrollment is just used making sure it's added in there. I just just to do I think that's actually helpful across the board as well and but um >> that I think that would be helpful here. I am noticing it looks like our projected enrollment is higher than our current total number of students. kind of just curious if that sounds like we're is that normal for this time of year? >> Yeah, I mean we're always here. >> We it it changes throughout the year, but we're generally within this I mean to be only three students higher or lower is pretty good for us. >> Yeah, >> we usually get a couple mid year like the January time. >> Yeah, times up at the end of the year last year. Yeah, it's just a reminder that it's not a significant guess. >> Yeah, it's not a it's not a static number, right? >> Okay. So, I'm dragging my feet because I'm hoping the chair gets back. But the next I thing on our agenda is business requiring discussion and we have reading of policy. So, I will let Ben take that on. We have two policy. Oh, no. I just give it over to you. >> Thank you, vice chair. >> Right. So, we have four policies to discuss tonight. Um, three of them are familiar to this body and our Dresden role. So, I will go through them quickly. Uh, just going down the line. First one is EA, which I mentioned as Dresden chair a couple weeks ago. That is the updated mandatory drug and alcohol testing for school bus drivers. The biggest thing of note there, that's a change is um their requires updating the policy include contracted carriers. and it's a little bit of grant writing aspects. This has already been approved at um SAU last time and with no changes. Second one going from left to right is new. This is IFB that they call instructional services. This is a first reading. It's a fairly short policy. This is basically a prelude to a screens policy. the new director of technology, who's fantastic, by the way, as we've all met him, is doing some surveys and sitins of the various schools, various teachers, and to kind of get more of a sense of how much and what proportion of school time is being used as screens when they're being used for dos and don'ts. And that will take some time to get through all four schools and all the classrooms. And he anticipates it should be done within, you know, a month or two months or so. >> Yeah. And this is more letting the district and the community know that we are looking at this. We are working on implementing a thing, but that will take some time. I would also add that it's a direct response to the concerns that were brought to our board meeting last spring to show handover parents in particular that we are working to create statements about and to um be mindful of in screen time at K through 5, which is what's specifically referenced here. >> Any other questions, comments? All right, the next one is IKB or homework. We discussed it at discuss this at your resume as well. I know that there's discrepancy of what it was called. Sometimes it's called ILK. IKB is the correct one. This is up for review per regulation 306 at the state level. The stated goal is to allow greater flexibility at the class grade or building level. It allows for delineations like not allow not allowing homework in a certain grade or homework won't make up more than a certain percentage of a class grade within policy and across the the schools. We discuss this over multiple meetings very granular and the policy committee felt that it was a helpful guidance for teachers and was specific but without getting too granular too much managing the principles how all reviewed this fine with it at the Dresden level. Most of this is covered anyway by a syllabi that is given out to students at each individual class. We ran it by principal Kelly Piece and she was fine with it as well at the RA level and currently have no suggestion changes. Last one is the protection of pupil rights. That is a big title. It is basically our survey policy. This is one that was crafted internally by the policy committee. This is not from NHSBA. Members of this body had a number of questions about it at Dresden, some of which were good ones. Policy has taken it back and is still working on it. Um, there were also some things specific to Dresden, such as what council thought of it and we heard feedback from them this morning at a different policy meeting. So, this is not its final form, but it is a first reading tonight. What is it? Does anyone have questions about this extensive uh well protection of people rights but it's really related to surveys and what's contained. Tara >> do we usually do a first reading if the policy is not in time for >> since it already came up from policy first and is going to go back. This is unchanged from the resident first reading. It's more just to keep this this specific board address that this is coming. Feel free to chime in with more changes, but the changes you've already have said we're working on. >> So, >> it's more at this point. There's no vote on it tonight. I will add that we heard from NHSBA themselves about this policy where they're taking interest in it and this will be the creation of their own version as well. So they like what they saw >> and we don't go ahead and we don't need to reiterate concerns that were stated like the assumption is if they're set in >> if you have any new ones feel free. >> Any other questions? If not, we'll move on to the legislative update. Uh, I think most of the issues here relate to the response to HB1300. Am I correct, Robin? >> Yes. >> And I can't speak for Kelly. I know that there is >> Wait, but I just Kelly was saying >> I'm about to You want to keep going? And our next meeting is I will turn it over to show you. >> Um, but I'll move my laptop. Do you want me to here? I'll leave my laptop here so you can use it. I have my I'll leave it open and when you have a moment you can >> Sure. >> Sorry, I had to keep getting home from soccer. >> Right. because I need to leave for here and possibly get them real. >> There's there's so much information on my stickies. >> We really are almost done. This is great. >> The legisator. >> Okay. I will give a legislative update. All right. Well, so um many of you probably saw HB1300, which was um the new tax cap or sorry, the school budget cap bill that had been passed and gone through. Um there was a lawsuit brought um not by us by parents found yourself. Um basically because the law is misleading the way that it's written um or the the article is very misleading the way that it is that it is mandated it must be written and it says that it will not have any impact on instruction and it's referring to just that last part but it makes it sound the thing will not have any instruction. So, um there are parents who brought a lawsuit around that. Um I don't know that that will filter through by November. Um but, um we're kind of in wait and see mode on that at this point. Um are there updates? Do we want to give more updates or do we want to leave it at that? We can talk about we are questioning what is happening with the HP1300 just based on our interstate compact because we have voters on the Norwich side that would not have any say in being able to determine whether we should have a tax stamp or not get their taxer by this vote. So we're looking into that piece as well. >> Yeah. And the Dresden Compact explicitly says that neither state shall take any action that would impact the other state. Um, and this obviously directly contradicts that. And so we're in a bit of a pickle there. So we're hoping that we may just be carved out by the state of New Hampshire, but we we'll see. So there's lots of moving pieces on that. Yep. In the meantime, there is a webinar that Gary and I No, was it >> I haven't been to that one. >> No. >> That we're going to go to. >> Oh, >> was it the two of us who took responsibility? >> Yeah, we did. But I volunteered ourselves. >> I thought it was this one that I went to that it wasn't because >> Yeah, that one was awful. I think it's the 13th. >> It was I believe it's Sunday. She was texting me. >> That that number rings a bell. It's Sunday the 13th and it is uh I think sponsored by reaching higher a whole conglomeration of education associations and groups and it will be yeah what you need to know about school funding caps and a plan and things that that individuals communities can do. And that's open to anyone, right? Oh, yes. Can all join that club. >> Absolutely. >> And I have the Zoom open right now. >> Here we go. >> Yeah. Can I can I just say if I just say like a common sense is problematic? >> Sure. Go for it. because I had an interesting conversation with just a neighbor who was on it was very tax cap on school spending that's equivalent to CPR and the things that I have to explain which made it problematic gas prices we already have a an existing contract with a transportation company and we are um responsible if gas prices go which will never be equivalent to disappear. We have got to pay other utilities for our school buildings which never um rise unve special education. We are legally responsible on the state and federal level to provide an adequate education to children with special needs and one um child could retire budget if we had one new um student with special needs and that makes this bill absolutely untangled from the practical and so it may look quite reasonable in its wording and it is just not there's also yep and I will just add it's very unclear what CPI well it's it's actually says that we would use the CPI as of March uh of the preceding year which would be the March after the vote >> and well after our budgets have been established. So it basically would mean flat budgets because I don't and even that like I you can't because you you have no way of predicting what CPI will be. Not to mention that our tax rate is calculated well after our budgets are set and we don't necessarily control what the tax rate is going to be so or what goes into it or what else is. So there's there's lots of problematic pieces certainly. Yeah. Um anything else for legislative updates at this time? >> Yeah. No, I was just going to say the next item I was going to give people an update, a little overview, even though we took it off the agenda. So that might be a good time for you to get out your >> Oh, perfect. >> Okay. So, I did leave the NHSBA resolutions on the table mostly just to make sure everybody knows two things that I think are important. The first one is that, well, they're three. The first one is that I just didn't have time ahead of tonight's meeting to develop a resolution byresolution bit of advice for the board because I think there are 14 or 15 resolutions. And aside from that though, the school board association is completely revamping its bylaws. They're streamlining it with the idea that every other year will be one where they're paying attention to the legislature and which I think in some ways, this is a side note, is impossible because there's so many bills that are always being introduced in the legislative session. But that's what they hope to do is focus on legislation every other year and the in between years, the odd years to do programming for schoolboard members to provide knowledge, information, workshops, social opportunities to address the needs of being a schoolboard member. And at first glance looking through everything, they seem pretty straightforward. School, you're all welcome to look at it. It's a lot of red and lines out, but I think the gist of it seems fairly reasonable. They also, again, a quick look, this is my second point, at all the resolutions. I initially agree with everything the New Hampshire School Board Association says. They are reluctant to support resolutions that get down into the weeds. They have they are not interested in supporting resolutions that duplicate current elements of uh you know sort of standards that they adhere to. And they also have rewarded a few of the resolutions to make them a little bit more um appropriate, reasonable. And so if you want to spend time with the resolutions, and I would urge you to do that, just kind of look through and see if there's anything you really disagree with. And that's it. Are you ready? Are you up? >> Oh, I'm there. Okay. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. It's been a a wonderful tale. Um, >> any questions? And again, we're going to look at this. I think you guys probably said this was before I got here, but um, we're going to look at this first at Dresden, which makes sense in some ways. it's more efficient rather than retweeting everything for the for our Norwich colleagues. So, >> um, great. All right, we will move on to Brett Derek and our update on special special education and out of district placements. >> Good job negotiating the obstacle course. >> Yeah. So, I'm Brett Derek. I'm the director for student services for the school district. So I work with all the staff and the schools. Um special education is one of the the hats that I wear. Uh annually I provide an update around this time of um where we're looking from a budget standpoint on our out of district student costs. Um we build a budget in September starts. We project out what we think we know we'll need and in reality and now we're in a school year. Um so it's a similar format that I've provided in the past. Uh brief terra already mentioned a little bit of it but um our responsibilities in public school is to provide an appropriate education for all our students um regardless of ability level of need disability. Um and so for our students who have the the most significant learning needs and the most complex profiles um sometimes we're not able to meet their needs in our school. So we have to work with sometimes private schools within the state, sometimes private schools outside of the state. Look, the Hartford school district right over the river has collaborative programs. So, us and a number of regional school districts um were part of that collaborative and we can have students attend those programs. They have students there programs for students with autism, life skills program for students who have intellectual disabilities. We also have a program that specializes in students with emotional behaviors. Uh so every year we budget based on what we like I said what we think we know and the students that we have. Um every year there's always variations. Um this year right now it's looking like we're going to be over budget. Um based on the current students we had one student that we didn't budget for that ended up requiring have district placement. that process and decision happened during the 2526 school year budgets were built. Um and so that's the the majority of that difference and from what was budgeted to you know projected costs at this time. Uh I included some information about revenue at the bottom. Uh and part of why I included that is because last year um we ended up um being well under budget I think to the amount that 480,000 again unexpected changes where a student we thought was going to be needing an outside placement could have moved out of district. Their needs could have changed. parents could have provided to send their child through a program that they wanted that wasn't part of the school district. So last year um well under budget but this year we're looking like they're over budget. Um we do get some reimbursement from the state of New Hampshire. Uh it's not fantastic amount and it's correlated pretty well to the amount that we spend and then we get an amount back. There's a thorough ration that the Department of Education uses because they only have access to so much funds and there's a law that was recently passed that say they can't grow rate any less than 8%. So that's a a win for us. I'd like to have it be 100% but it's better than there have been years where they've only rated like 68%. That's the update. happy to provide uh additional information or details for what I can answer questions. >> All on myself. Sorry. Um so am I looking at this right then that in fact so if I add the numbers up that's like 91,000 and then ultimately are we basically getting double hit so that the shortfall is going to be more like that 91,000 plus the shortfall of 32,000 that we're not getting in revenue. Am I thinking about that right >> for the special education aid? >> Yes, >> I believe so. So, the budget >> what we budgeted was >> that's what it says in your notes. Yeah. >> So, so it's going to be that >> less that projected revenue and these and Um, I'll leave it as this is what we know right now, >> right? >> Um, another student required our students needs to change and they no longer need that level of service. Um, transportation is part of that. We, you know, utilize our buses when we can. You have to contract with private transportation companies when you don't have buses available and that was extraordinarily expensive. All districts are struggling with paying that amount and have to get the students to school. So if it's difficult, we do have some families that are open to mileage reimbursement. So if they're able to transport their students, then that's something that we can help provide to them. And it's can be a cost savings for the district. So when that works out, we >> do you know off the top of your head what our special education reserve fund is at that >> threeish just over 300,000. >> Okay. All right. It's ter So I guess I have a question. Are we going to draw this $224,000 from I just >> Are we going to draw from funds to be budgeting? >> We can do we need to vote on that. >> Um later I don't know that you want to jump the gun at this moment. Um, I know in past years we've had offsets from general education budget or special education budget that's not out of district that's been used to offset overages >> here. >> Yeah. >> Um, I don't know the timeline of when the board needs to make a decision of these are going to access those funds or not. >> So I guess we just need to be kept informed by you guys to know when to make that decision. And I would say the decision point is more do we need to replenish the special education fund during the March election. That would be the >> well we would need to know now for budget building that starts next week >> if we need to reserve more. >> Okay >> because we skipped yesterday. >> I will excited. >> I just saw my calendar already. >> Yeah. And Trace, another question for you. I know that we have retaining conversation coming up. >> Can that retainage be used for this purpose as well? >> Um, it could be we'd still be requesting if if that's what we lock in, then we'd still request to use it. But before we do that, I I would still go to the reserve first, right? Okay. >> Thank you. >> Yes. Just as an FYI, um Ben >> suggested that we take retainage off the agenda, but you want to put it back. >> No. >> Or just a conversation about it? >> Conversation. People had questions otherwise. Yeah, we're going to hunt it. Yeah. Perfect. >> Um I was just curious. This is K5. Are there I have the prek work in my brain. Are we aware of um what the costs are? And I know it might be a little seen a little different than out of district placement, but I know in the past there have been kids um younger than K that we're needing to pay for supports earlier for the early childhood stuff. And I that's not on here. I don't know if we have a sense of those tasks. >> Uh I don't. So this includes all students who live in handover K through 12. Um all the students are currently of high school, middle school age. >> Yeah. that attending audition placements for preschool costs. Um those are >> different >> different account 1210. >> Um and so part of part of that >> preschool discussion was thinking that if we were to have our public preschool here, we wouldn't have to pay tuition. Yeah. >> Which is separate from us not being able to meet the student needs. just they needed a preschool environment for their learning which we would be able to provide through our program and I think when we discussed it we thought about keeping some funds in the preschool tuition line >> in case we needed space that we didn't have >> yeah it was if we knew what those costs were it would help >> and last question for you um would because I know we're responsible for for students up to age 21 correct >> through 21 >> through 21. Um, would they just show up as 12th graders on this? That's kind of the Yes. >> Yes. Okay. >> All right. >> Yeah. I guess I have a question for us regarding sort of the preschool portion of the discussions um for sort of budget focus um for next week and beyond. Is it our um sort of preferred way to budget for the preschool on the handover side to do just what Rhett said, which is keep it attached? Um how he does it right now and the special 1,210 or 20 line. Um and then also figure out our costs for the preschool side if any spreadsheet that we discuss later. or is there some other different way that this group would like to tackle that? So, >> I guess my question would be, do we have to keep that separate per reporting guidelines and such? May I don't know. >> I think like Brett said, we just had lack of clarity so far as to how it was going to go. So, it seems like not a huge deal to leave $30,000 line in case there are any kids and for some reason would not be very expensive. Yeah. >> So, just because we didn't know what it was the first year that we did it that way, but I'm just trying to make sure that next week we don't get >> sounds. All right. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Financial report. Since I did the financials last time, I'm just going to roll into those little three topics, but um I did the Yeah, I did the financials last time. So, all I did was upload this time around the business report. I too made mention of House Bill 13, House Bill 564 at the very beginning of the rest. Um he's and then I'm just kind of spoke about the different departments. Um, but I did bring them with me and like I said, I'm just going to roll into the DOE 25 and the MS25. Um, the DOE approved those yesterday or today, whatever it was yesterday. So, they approved them yesterday. So, I brought for your signature. So, I'm going to send this around. So, um, Robin's I'll have to get your signature, too. Um and then at this point um talking about that we don't have to make a decision decision or anything else as far as some fund balance but I did upload those documents also underneath the retainage um two options when we built the budget for FY27 we built it with um the assumption that we would have 980,000 to apply and offset taxes. We do have that to apply. And then with that, option number one would also be 394,000 retainage. Sorry, take your glasses off and option two. Oh, and and going with option one, keeping everything if everything was to stay status quo. If that was the case, we would still be at the 7.48%. we would be at 63 cents increase and that would be $99 on the thousand just like we um budgeted. If you decided option two and you said, "Well, we want to put 1.1 million back to the taxpayers," that would leave us with about 274,000 to tame, but that would bring it to a 7.12% 60 increase instead of 63. and then it would be $96 on the th00and. So you're talking about a 3cent difference on the thousand. Um so those are the two options and again figured I'd upload those give you guys a chance to look at those and consider that not to send these around physically but they are uploaded and my recommendation was still stay with the 980 but then Brett came before me. Um, so, so there could be a resistation to go the other way and go ahead and put, you know, 1.1 million back to the taxpayer to offset the taxes, um, could potentially al also offset and not have to touch the special debt fund. Um, in that respect of keep in in other words, even though we're going to spend it, we're trying to reduce that, you know, offset with the lower tax rate. >> But Can I ask? >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Do I missed the beginning of the meeting and so are we not? >> You're not asking the right person. >> Oh, and you didn't want to talk about this? >> No, no, no. >> We didn't want to vote. >> We table the vote. >> The vote. >> Was it because we voted much later on last year? >> No, it's just cuz we didn't have it until today and so I didn't want to ask you guys to make a decision on something. >> Like we didn't much later. >> We voted much. Yeah. What was it? >> So my proposal and that we I believe are planning to call a special meeting before the Dresden meeting uh on the 23rd or 22nd. Thank you. Um so my proposal was to let you guys ask questions if you have questions about this since Teresa said, "Oh, I actually do have it. Let me put it in there." Um great. We can ask questions now and then we'll vote on it at that special meeting. >> So the only reason why Teresa these two um options are in there at the levels that they are is just one is just exactly what we did last year. It's it's what we put into the budget when we built FY27 budget. So option number one literally is what we built in 980,000 um as the offset for the taxes. >> Seems like we have we have a discussion with this like this time of year every year. >> Yes. This is our it's on our template. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So it's it's just it's not a fixed number. It's we figure it out based upon all the >> and we are allowed to retain up to 5%. >> Correct. And that's on there too. What I did was I created that document to mimic the um department of revenues document that we normally um when we set the tax rate and everything else. So it kind of mimics it the breakdown. So it's like a little over 600,000 would be what we would be allowed. But again, you could choose option three and say, you know, I like a better option or something like that. But um but I figured option one, no matter what, I just keep the status quo. Um and then option two was trying to keep a little bit of a retainage and not um not take it down to zero. Okay. All right. Other questions? Yeah. And obviously between now and 22nd, if you have questions for Teresa, feel free to shoot this and copy me so I know the answer to. All right. Um, moving on. Appointing our AP approver. >> It's been a while. >> Oh, Ben, you are my favorite. Thank you. >> Anyone else want to be my favorite? >> I've been on hiatus. I'll do it in January. >> Oh, no. I can do it. Terra's moving into budget season. I I'll do it. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. You're also my favorite person to be willing to do it. You're also my favorite person. All right. >> And just to clarify since there's sometimes back and forth on this. This will be going into effect come October. Yes. Is that right? >> Yes. Okay. I think that's what we do. >> And for our noteaker, that was Ben and Carrie ultimately would be to do it >> starting October 1st. October 1st. >> All right, >> moving on. Budget guidelines and timeline. >> Take this one. >> No, you're good. >> I need to review the retainage documents. >> Yeah. >> Um, cool. So, uh, no. Oh, this isn't me. >> Oh, >> this is Teresa. >> Teresa. What time? I mean, you have the document there, guys. I don't know that there's actually that much to say. I'll just note. So, I'll note for board members while we get ourselves >> while we get ourselves oriented here. Um, you'll notice in this calendar that there are some meetings if it says internal that does not involve board members. So, those are meetings happening within the building um where they are creating their budget basically. Um and then the meetings that um have the brown coloring um that's when the budget committees so us that's when we will be involved in that and then the bright green ones to really draw your attention are the ones where um they come to a formal board meeting um and are presented in front of the public. So that's all. >> And to add to that, yes, please. >> And the hot pink meetings. >> Oh, yes. Our updates. Yes. >> Um, yes. In hot pink. So, yes. So, there are budget meetings coming up uh next week. Correct. >> And tomorrow. >> Tomorrow morning. >> SAU. And who's on SAU? Remind me. >> Me. >> And Michael. Okay, thank you. Thank you. You're also my favorite people. All right. Um, so many favorite people. >> And then SAU will be decided very soon and I will just >> little yeah little call back to um Teresa's presentation on the um uh business administrator's summary there. Um, one of the bills that we are that has gone into law that that we are following is >> 564. >> Thank you. 564. Um, we have to put the SAU budget separately on which we've never done. It's just been kind of rolled out to the three district budgets. Um, and so now it has to be voted on separately. Again, problematic because it won't be voted on separately in Norwich. What happens if it fails? We don't really know that. Nobody knows that. So, um, yeah, stay tuned. Um, but all the more reason to at least get our end of things squared away as early as possible. >> Yep. >> With a reminder to the voters that Norwich tends to outvote handover. Keep that in mind as well. >> Keep voting. >> Well, and just for clarification, Norwich has everything town meeting and school all at the same time. So, it makes sense that they outvote us. Mhm. >> We just have to, you know, do something outlandish that will prompt people to say, "I'm going to go to that school board meeting." >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We'll come up with something. >> Thanks, Dad. >> You know, I was thinking of the JB hockey program or the track. >> That's a dreadman chair. Uh, I love this day. >> Um, uh, there's there's a few, uh, updates that I wanted to make sure we recorded. I didn't know. Is this the right time just to say things out loud and then >> Sure. >> Say things out loud, Rene. Um, so the the board in September, the topline board review/isbudget guidelines, I think our proposal is the September 22nd 2B schedule meeting for us in Hanover. >> Not today. I have Kelly and I do not have guidelines we will look at yet budget committee. Um and uh and I was wondering is did Norris already do theirs last week or do we need to update that date? >> The guidelines. >> Yeah. >> No, they're all being done together. >> Okay, cool. So that's what I that's what I assumed, but I follow up. >> Um so that just to I think it's like all of those are basically the September 22nd date. Uh just so everybody we don't have it tonight. Sorry. assignments we came for. And then um the strategic alignment number two meeting that um was recommended was supposed to be November or December, late November or early December is technically what we said. So like we would align initially to say okay what is the direction what are what is the common information we all need to know and then how do we determine our budget guidelines and then later on we would all come back together and say how are things shaping up now that we know more information and we've all we've kind of all done the work. Um, and so I don't know what date you want to plan that for, but in either late November or early December, we would want to have a moment of us coming back together again. >> Is that where we see the second admin budget committee meeting in there? >> I don't know what's the same cuz that's not us. That's not >> that is Ford. It's just not in front of the public. Oh >> yeah. >> Which one are you talking about? >> I'm looking at November. >> The >> Yeah, I mean it looks like >> I don't know. Salmon beige sand. I don't know what you want to call that. >> Are these two together? >> Yeah. >> Is that the intent there? >> Yes. >> So then So then it would be so like another green line the two of them together. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. This is great because it says with princ discuss any final changes questions with principles directors budget finance committee. >> Perfect. >> Mhm. >> Right. >> Great. And then can you somehow make the language? I just want to make sure everybody across the districts knows that we want to do it together. >> Yeah. Okay. for that. >> Just noting that if it's meant to come after all of those other coordinating ones, the Dresden is very late and so we'll have to squeeze it in before Thanksgiving if we're going to >> That's tough timing, but >> we can do it >> or early or early December. The guidelines say either. Love that. >> Yeah. All right. Good. Cool. >> Theresa, anything else to add? >> Uh, not for me at this time. >> Okay. Super. >> We will move on into Yes. >> Oh, no. I'm I'm Oh, really? >> Okay. You're in chair mode. I like it. Business requiring action. Um, I will take a motion to approve items. Is it still B? >> B through F. >> Yes. Okay. Thank you, Christie. >> Deb. >> I move to approve items B through F by consent. Uh second from Carrie. Sorry. And all in favor doing show hands. That is unanimous. Okay. Excellent. Um we are not doing G and we are not doing H. You still have them in there. Um so moving on to communications and reports. Uh Renee, this is you. >> Yes. >> And technically me, but why don't you go ahead and start Renee? Um, so, uh, we are heading into our strategic one meeting on the 17th as you all just saw in this lovely calendar. Thank you, Teresa, for putting it together. Um, and the >> it was Ryan. Oh, thank you, Ryan. Together. Um, and so as part of that conversation, there's uh, you know, how do how do we talk about what our priorities are? What do we want to be making sure we all are um kind of aware of in terms of revenue pressures, expenditure pressures moving into the year. Um a lot of things we don't know right now. Uh but in terms of like hard numbers, but I think there's there's lots of general sentiment out there um that feels important to just make sure that this board is aware before your fearless budget committee goes forth. Um, and so I wanted to just put in a bunch of notes. Um, we've chatted with the a few folks from the family finance committee. Um, the Hanner finance committee. I'm on the capital improvement program committee for the town. So like that conversation's kind of happened through there. Um, and then there's been uh kind of pulling of insight from various board meetings we've had over the past x number of months. Like this is just kind of a sum of that. Um, I wanted to make sure we started uh with our mission. We are here for the kids and I just thought it was really nice to make sure that we are all reminding ourselves of that. Um, maybe it's just selfish cuz we just jump to the numbers too fast. So, uh, that is really really I think important. And then really hits on um the conversation of priorities. And this is you'll see this in red. I really this whole thing is a draft. it is just meant for initial conversation for us. Um I intended to put um strategic goals associated with every single priority that I've listed here. Um I think there there are some some cross multiple I think preK crosses multiple. Um I think building starter pipelines for leadership and talent um AC crosses a few too but either case this is obviously work in progress. Um, I think that part, the potential priorities is the biggest one that's up in the air. Um, not up in the air, but the one I'm I'm really curious about everybody's feedback. Um, because that will drive where we want to invest. Um, then I gave my response or thoughts about budget outlook this year. Uh, it's another tough one. Um, I wrote that we can likely expect to have to cut, although that is misleading because there will be increases in expenses. So, we're going to have to invest more in like healthcare. Um, but that's just going to put pressures elsewhere. So, um, I take ownership for the misleading language if that is how you are interpreting it. Um, and then I wanted to make sure I outlined a few of the there's lots of revenue pressures and lots of revenue pressures, but the biggest ones um that we could choose to acknowledge and tackle this year or decide no, that's actually not going to be the biggest thing. I don't really know to what extent we want to um kind of weigh in on do we do we want to place a bet on AP300 happening or not happening. I don't know. Um I did add Vermont notes in here uh just to kind of get a sense of the bigger picture again because that's going to affect the Dresden going to affect us there too. Um these uh I checked with Neil the the language over there is the foundation formula um which also has a component to it which is in the revenue decline section of your ro tuition tax cap. If you have questions see um but there's uh you'll notice I strictly did not put any dollar signs associated with any of these and I don't know how if like one is so much bigger than the other. I think they're all just a whole hot mess together and they may not all hit us this year in the same way. Um the anticipated enrollment decline, it's not totally clear. Um I we kind of looked at some of the numbers. It's not like major, at least in terms of numbers we have historically, but nothing's going up. Um and so I think that's the biggest takeaway. Um, in a version, I'm sure I'll kind of iterate on this for for Dresden, but um, I think that's important to know. Uh, we've seen a few reports, some from Lauren about federal grant funding not looking as strong as it was in years past last time. Um, but who knows, they might surprise us. Um, and then I think taxpayer pressures is is something that's really important for us to just be aware of in terms of um our our wonderful residents. Uh, aside from everything happening on outside of our town, within our town, uh, there's lots of capital um, improvements that are being planned. I forget what this article is, thinks of 47 million in the next two years. Um, there's pressures on the operating budget as well. Um the uh town folks that I talked with wanted to impress on us that the gap that they're looking to fill in terms of salaries would be about us trying to fill a million dollars. So like there's substantial catching up to do for our um town employees is what their sentiment is. So that's you know obviously we don't have say on what they choose to do. They don't have to say in terms of what we have choose to do, but we are really thinking of our constituents overall, which is we all the same people who are kind of um uh in our town that are that are supporting both the town and schools. So, that's important for us to remember. Um and it will come as no shock to lots of folks that work at Dartmouth uh medical center and Dartmouth College um that there's expected cost cutting TBD. what that actually looks like. Um, but that is the information that I received and that is the level of detail that I think I can say accurately about it. Um, but the medical center I think has been experiencing a lot more pressure because of the one big beautiful bill situation which was already not they're already getting pressure before. So, um, lots lots of revenue things to consider. the other stuff on the table obviously um there's I'm sure most of us if not everybody's already seen the projections of healthcare costs this year from New York Times um certainly double digits probably a lot more we are capital improvement conversation we can choose that's like a choice um healthcare there's there's choice to it but less so um the capital improvement work that is more of a choice there was a actually a lovely quote from our town manager uh that was related to our capital improvement planning committee around how handover has a um history of deferring maintenance. Um that is also true for our schools. Um which he was just like just letting you know that's everywhere to like the whole committee. So he's not wrong. Um and so I think that's where your committee comes in which is great. Um and of course we have our teachers contract. Um and I just added a couple dates here just so you all had some insight. We now do have dates for negotiations, but that was like as of two hours ago. So, but I'm here. Um, quest. Let's start with questions and then I really would love your general thoughts on the priorities here. Importantly, if anything needs to come off the list or be added to it, um, including Robin's perspective. So, clarifications first. >> Thanks for all the thoughtful work, Renee. Appreciate it. um questions, clarifications. >> Yeah, >> this is not really a question. I just worry that if somebody is decides later to go and watch on YouTube and hears us talk about this, they they may miss some of the detail by not opening up the document. And I'm not suggesting we read it to them, but I do think that there are a couple things >> that we've talked about being committed to. And one of them is establishing the two prek classrooms. >> And the other one is to establish a social worker to support all four schools in the district. That those are things that we really want to see happen because we've put them in, taken them out, put them in, taken out. We're going to put them in from the beginning. And I think that's important for people who are listening with one ear, maybe with both ears. Um, and the other thing is just to recognize that you you pulled back a little bit about having to cut, but we we are looking at a tighter budget >> and we want to do those things and we may have to not do other things. we will have to not do other things. I think it's probably fair to say. >> Yeah, >> I just want to um totally agree with you Debb on the two priorities that we've talked about um that I think it's important that we commit to the social worker and we've already voted on the preschool portion as well. So those in my mind at least three commitment and I know that it involves the balance of the the dress and board and it's an ongoing conversation but um it would feel meaningful very meaningful to be able to implement both of those things after many years of discussion but not quite getting to the action portion of events. And I also wanted to um reiterate the same thing that Deb just said about um you know the sort of cost cutting sort of conversation. It's um putting things in is not excluded by having a tight budget season. It's just reflective that we as a board have priorities and have a point on the horizon that we're trying to get the school district to um to aim for. And it really is a discussion of tradeoffs and how can we do what we do just as well but maybe in some places a bit more efficiently. Um and that's an important conversation for us to have um and get to the meat of because that will it's a game changer. It's an absolute game changer. So, and then the one thing I want to clarify is the the point about the town spending a million dollars extra on salaries is because they did an equity study for their employees. And the result of their equity study, just like we did one a few years ago, result of their equity study indicated that they needed to spend another million dollars in salaries to get their people to where they needed to be. >> Thank you for that clarification. Yeah. And it's not it's not actually the million actual dollars. it is somewhere in the 600s. But for our for like for us in terms of like our overall budget, it's the equivalent of needing us to spend a million dollar. So just to >> for those that are listening with a happy ear, >> other questions Renee, remind us what did you specifically want feedback on again? >> So uh I'm interested in the priorities which I heard a little bit. >> Yeah, I heard two and five solidly. Yeah. >> Um I I personally would be shocked if nobody wanted number one about improving sustainability. >> Uh and I think the language there maybe could be adjusted um you know just to improve sustainability. Um I'm really interested in our uh I think hearing from you know at the SAU we'll talk about capital improvement I think. Um, and so we'll we'll get a better sense of what that looks like there. And we have initial numbers from those meetings. But our our conversation around number four, um, is that something we want to be having a conversation of within our district right here? Is that a different district conversation? Is that an SA conversation? Robin, what is your thought? That would be yes definitely an SAU conversation because that aligns with the um salaries at that level. >> Okay. >> Yes. So be a question for that. >> Yeah. And and I would say, you know, that is probably when I look at this like there's there's priorities and then there's budgetary >> priorities and and to me the number four budgetary implication would be >> looking at our salary structure at the SA level >> most likely. But I mean again if we if we have like this pot of money, right, and we're going to put some more of it over here now there's a smaller pot, right? And so I think that like that mentality um needs to be part of what we're thinking about especially with so many unknowns and with the clear messaging from the state that what they would like to see is flat budgets. >> No. >> And I do agree with the goals for the Ray School. The two big things really that we have talked about for the past several years have been the social worker and the preschool classrooms. >> We've been saying that over and over. So, >> which again hopefully improves educational outcomes and working conditions for the entire building, right? And that's or for the entire district, right? That's that's the goal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Um I hadn't spoken because I feel like I was just repeating Debar's sentiment. Um I think well established my prek in social work uh I was a former school social worker. Um, so, uh, yeah, I think I think these are I think these capture our conversations and >> I I do really need to I feel like I have to say something to re-emphasize the reality in that we live in such a privileged place where we do have some really amazing aspects to our schools and there is a piece of me especially when you said the word equity I was like like prek is an equity it is a statement of a belief in equity. Um, and that may mean that things have to be shifted in other areas. And I think that is really hard for um a community that's been as privileged as we are to have such amazing and schools that have all these kind of like lots of different stuff going on. We've been really lucky and um yeah, >> other Yep. I don't know if you want to talk about the capital improved stuff now. We just had very enlightened meeting. I >> mean that's sort of our that's our next >> Yes. I mean I can I guess I can say that we can talk about that in our other but but that is an ongoing conversation. Not that we have any distilled answers yet but I think we're well on our way to >> Tara on that. Are refresh my memory. Are you now serving on the capital improvement planning committee for the district? Okay. So, we should add that. >> Oh, it's Lisa. >> Yes. And Lisa. >> Lisa. And >> Okay. So, we should add that >> to the extent that it pertains to handover. Can we add you to our committee reports for future? >> Oh, of course. Yeah, sure. >> All right. Super. Make a name of that. All right. Um, anything else you need from us tonight? Uh, if you are on any of budget committees, please show up at 8 a.m. >> next Thursday. >> Where are we? >> We have Let me check because >> I not everybody was aware of said meeting. So, >> are you aware of it? >> I am. That's on my calendar. I had a moment but now I realize I have I know the moment has >> we are in my office. >> It's going to be very cozy. >> So we're I we may need to move that. >> We may need to move that >> cuz we have more people now. And >> just to confirm >> Yes, please. >> Just looking at our board committees. So that would be Deb, Kelly, Renee, and Tara are all on one budget committee or another. Does that sound right to everyone? >> Sounds right to me. >> Sure. your attention. >> Oh, Jim, there's still TBD in just Yeah, >> that's good news. >> All right, other committees. Tara, anything else to report? >> Finance committ meets tomorrow. Um, everyone has been very lovely in their expressed support for the budget process um at this early stage. >> Yeah, we look forward to their continued involvement and assistance. Thanks for being our leazison on for that. Um, we talked about NHSBA. Nothing else, Deb, I imagine. >> No. >> No. Okay. Um, the CIPC. Okay. >> PreK. Still, >> we did not get a pattern. >> Cool. from the capitalist movement. Can I say um think we do have some urgency as a board to um just acknowledge the timeline and how pieces are going to work. Um it seems pretty clear that in order for that um capital improvement committee for the schools to be functional like at this time next year they have got to have received from the board direction of priorities so that they can go out and solicit and digest quotes, actual quotes um and be ready at this time next year >> toud budget and and so we'll have to understand what projects are going to go, how much we're going to have to get feedback from the school folks, how much they're going to cost and then we as a board are going to have to understand financing um options. So we have there even though there are so many action steps, the one important action step for this body is going to be um a real expression of priorities to that committee so that they can go out and do all of them necessary. And so it occurs to me that we should probably put a spot in our agendas going forward for that kind of conversation, but only once we have something to react to. So >> So right now, if you wanted to react to something, so there's information that's not very digested. So, but there there's a a very robust set of um ranking and prioritization um matrix items that have been established by the committee that they have applied and you can go on to assembly and look under all of their documents. There are 10 projects per school that have been identified. And so after the meeting today, I was a little overwhelmed and I said, "Please, could we make it two projects per school um with the narrative and context so that people can evaluate and make an informed decision?" They said yes. So by next >> month we will have two projects for our little group to look at for handover um with the narrative of context. And in the meantime, I will tell you a very unexciting thing that there's an underground oil tank at the race which I do not know about which in my humble opinion should be gone. >> So yeah. So >> whatever needs to happen to take the um the capital um assessment funds that we have the reserve funds and get rid of that and it's like less than $50,000. Oh heck yeah. It should be gone to >> Thank you, Taran. I feel like your level excitement here is about how I feel when there's like a new ice cream place. >> There's something that cost a dollar to do, but if you didn't do it could cost you $1,000. >> So that's the kind of thing that I don't want to be talking about on any of my budget committees next year. So I would like to go >> liability is not worth. >> All right. Thank you, T. Um, and we'll stay tuned on that and we'll roll right into Robin's report then, which I think will hit some of the same. >> So, we had a fantastic opening. I can't believe that we've been here now for over almost two weeks really. And um, but it was a really wonderful opening. We had our opening day with the entire staff on the first Monday where we held a breakfast and I did a little speech that I shared with you and then we did a student panel that's always a highlight and this year we had students from grades three through high school as part of the panel and then some of our staff members who also went through our schools. So, it's just it's always so much fun to hear what the students are really looking forward to and you know what they would like to see their teachers do and the um I've always gotten really positive feedback for the past few years on that. So, that was a lot of fun. And then we did do our recognitions for plan 20 and 30 year staff members which was nice. Opening day was just a bustle of you know just so much fun seeing everyone return to the schools our two new principles our new associate principal here and I've been able to in the first week I was able to get into a lot of classrooms and just be around and see everything that's happening. So that was really wonderful in terms of the real work that's being happening behind the scenes. We have been working on the capital improvement plan. Um we are in the process of looking at the budgets and trying to get through that process and think about what we would like to put forward with budget guidelines. We've had already some internal meetings. Theresa's met with each of the principles to go through all the FTEEs to make sure that's updated and accurate. And so I feel like even compared to last year, we're in so much of a better place. Um, so that's felt really good. And then otherwise, just trying to do all the day-to-day things, dealing with the new legislation that's passed. There are a lot of other little things that will have an impact on the schools that I'm trying to really figure out what impact that's going to have. Um, you know, in terms of curricular programs, we are in the process, Teresa, as you all know, is needing to go to Claremont. So, we're in the process of looking for new businesses in this career at this time, too. That's really difficult thing in this environment. So, that would be big shoes to fill for us. And I think that's it. I'm happy to answer any questions that you have. >> All right. No questions. All right. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> That's all right. Got pretty good balance. Um, you have my report. Sorry about that. >> Just kidding. >> Um, and I would be happy to answer any questions after echoing um, how wonderful it's been to have everybody back in the schools. Um, being able to be in classrooms. I've spent a lot of time here at Ray just seeing the good work that's happening with Kelly and Karen. Um, I gave a little bit of an update um, on our Dartmouth partnership as promised from our last meeting. Um, and then some what I thought were pretty great quotes from our pep rally with uh Robin that the students shared um their insight uh about you know the best type of teacher and things that they look for to feel supported as students. Can I answer any questions? I I would just um add it. Well, I would ask you perhaps to just comment on the two presentations we heard in SDC that were related to the elementary school and the the learn the learning and what that is translating into at their high school. >> Sure. You sure you don't want to? >> No, I just I would rather you do it because you've been sitting here and Absolutely. Yes, I would love to. So, uh, if I back up just a little bit, the acronym CSDC is Central Staff Development Committee. Most of you have heard that acronym before, but it's basically the governing body that oversees things like track advancements, enrichment, grants, and sbaticals are some of the main categories. Um at three of our meetings during the year, we take a look at track advancements that are put forth um saying that folks have completed all of the required um credits to move to the next track. Um in tracks 1 through six, a teacher can acrue a variety of credits from a variety of courses and it just sort of adds up along the way to move somebody along the track. When you get to something called track 7, it's supposed to be the equivalent of like a PhD or two masters. Um, this has to go before CSDC, before this committee. And this committee is made up of um administrators from each of the this is New Hampshire only, each of the New Hampshire schools as well as a building representative from each of the New Hampshire schools. And those building representatives also have to be part of the association of the union. So around this table we have those folks and we have two board members and an administrator from the SAU which happens to be me. Um so this group of people uh takes a look at these track advancements for track 7 before anybody can start to acrue credits towards a track 7 advancement. um they have to submit a proposal that outlines a cohesive program that should be rigorous that should meet the standards of either a second master's or even a PhD program. Um people can do this two ways. They can submit a proposal and say I'm just getting a second masters. Here's the syllabus. Here's the university or college that I'm working with. But we still take a look at that, make sure that it meets the needs of the district. make sure it uh aligns with strategic goals as well as uh community goals for the school building. Um or we have this fabulous uh kind of design your own adventure where a person can think about a topic that would be very important in furthering their own professional learning as well as help with some problem of practice that they're seeing within the school. And then they create a proposal where they um submit a bunch of courses and then defend why they would be taking those courses for this track seven advancement. I hope that's all helpful. But yesterday we heard from two race school teachers who completed their track 7 advancement work. And both of these teachers were working towards track 7 having submit submitted a proposal. They've been working on their um track 7 advancement for two and a half to three years. Um, and both of these people actually happen to be working on literacy, which is really great and super timely. We may not have known three, two and a half, three years ago that we would be transitioning to this new arts and letters program. Um, but certainly they were uh very interested in the science of reading and um things that were coming out that we were learning about how the brain works and how the brain learns to read. Um and so both of these people did their presentation yesterday and um connected their learning. So one is a reading teacher and one is a classroom teacher and connected their learning to um you know what they saw students coming in with um what they uh identified as um challenging things that they were seeing in our student population in the area of reading. Um, you saw in my arts and letters presentation, Scarboro's rope, where basically we've learned that there are two major sections to how students are learning to read. There's like foundational skills and language pieces, and then there's also those foundational pieces. Um, so phonics and fluency. Um, and so these folks wo together a series of courses um to really further their own education and then better address the needs of reading learners who are um learning how to read here at the Ray School. Anything else you think I should add? >> Well, the only thing that I would add Oh. Oh, sorry. >> Please. >> The only thing I would add is that one teacher, Katherine Ferrell, had developed this wonderful little language booklet for students to fill out. um together and I flipped through it and I didn't get past, you know, what are the letters of the alphabet, what are vowels before I encountered language I wasn't familiar with. And I suggested that she consider creating something similar for parents so that they would understand the process cuz I I have a first grader, a grandchild who's a first grader. I don't know. a miracle. Um, but I'm fascinated by the process of learning to read and and so I just think that that would be a really wonderful thing for parents to know about because many of us don't know how people learn to read. So anyway, that's the additional piece. >> Thank you. Um these these folks also did an amazing job of connecting their learning to how they're going to be supporting um their teammates as well as the school around this learning. And that's a big piece of this track seven is part of the evidence needs to be how you're going to share your learning um with other stakeholder groups including your fellow teachers and colleagues. Um but Deb brought up a great question that you know stakeholder groups don't have to stop right there and shouldn't stop right there. So, how can we also use teachers learning to um expand uh the way that we reach out to parents and families and caregivers around the learning that's happening in the classroom? >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thanks everybody. I'm going to walk carefully this time. Thank you. >> Well done. >> All right. Um and there are no other questions. Um, I will. We do need a non-public session this evening. Want to put a steak in the ground and say a brief non-public session. >> Yes. Thank you. Um, and I don't think we have any action items coming out of that. So, um, I will take a motion to enter non-public session. Ben, >> to enter non-public session at 8:20 p.m. on RSA 91- A 32 and L. And I'll take a second. Second from Carrie and roll call starting with Jim. >> Um Ton, yes. >> Perfect. Russell, yes. >> Nelson, yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. And McConnell? Yes. All right. Can I call us back to order? Sure. All right. Restarting public session at 8:57 p.m. Uh, one last opportunity for public to address the board. Hi, good evening for today's surgeent handover. Um, two things. One is a question and one is just like a FYI. The question is, as much as I would love to have an act together to look at Simly prior to coming, I like squeak here at the last second. Um, and there's no internet here as you guys know. Is there any way that there can be just during these hours like some sort of guest ray guest so that the giant public who is here um can get on Simly and like follow along with you without having to have done it hours earlier and like printed something out. So that's just if if it's possible to just do >> it's not an unreasonable. Thank you. We really all appreciate it. >> It does exist. Okay. >> It's self-registering. >> Okay. It's called S370 after hours. It's looking at your Wi-Fi. Okay. >> If you're on your phone, you scroll down and there's a blue because it says like username, password. Scroll a little bit further on your phone. There's a blue button that says register. >> It will ask you to put in I believe your email address and then like accept the things and then you should be on. So or is your phone number? >> Phone number. My phone number is my is what >> that you could use your phone number instead if you have that service here instead of the cuz you can't get into your email. That's >> the first place, right? Okay. Great. Um the second thing is that the first day of school was super exciting, but I did just want to like bring to your attention something that I was surprised about. Um, so I was there both like as a mom for my kids starting and then also um with PTO and the vice president PTO was with me and we were just like, "Hi, like welcome, happy first day, like excited, right?" Um, but we actually like never spoke to anyone about PTO because we were constantly shuttling like lost children to their classrooms. Um, I was there for like 40 minutes and I took nine children to their classrooms. They were just like by themselves crying. There were two buses that were late, which happened. But the problem is that when the two buses were late, all of the teachers and staff had to be teaching and staffing. So, the two buses just came and I think that there was one staff person who was able to be out there and then all these little kids just went off. And even it was not just kindergarteners. So, I don't want you to think it was just kindergarteners, but like kids just like came out and were like standing and I was like, "Hi, welcome. Like, can we help you? Like, who's your teacher?" And most of them didn't know, "My dad knows, but like their dad wasn't with them." Um, and so to just I just wanted to bring to your attention. Um, and hopefully in the future like maybe PTO can have a bigger role or whatever, but just it was really exciting, but it was also like when I was looking at it from not just my kid is where my kid is supposed to be, it was kind of upsetting as to just how lost a lot of the kids were. And some of it is again when you have school buses that are late and teachers have to be teaching which is obviously their job. What happens to to the children that are wondering? So >> thank you. I wanted to let you guys know. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Especially Rene to your point that typically on the first day almost inevitably at least two or three school buses are late. their handmakes. They're bringing in all the students and new routes and new drivers and all those other things >> and the paving time and they came and I don't know if the buses have since rectified but I would the first like three days at least one bus was late all three days cuz I was there doing like other stuff and I kept noticing >> that they were coming late which again everyone's like figuring it out but I think the problem is then the kids are coming and not knowing necessarily where to go. Thanks, Rene. And I will just take this opportunity to elevate. I know um there are concerns. I've had other parent emails. I'm looking at Lauren as our former tech director, but um I've had I've seen other parent emails um expressing concern about the lack of service at this building for parents who may be here if there's an emergency or um just sort of the the concern around connectivity um as a as a safety issue. So for high school, >> right? Well, and and we have started to address it at the high school, but um it's you know, >> yeah, just wanted to elevate that since it came to me. Um anything else? >> Yes. Just to follow up, which I realize since Kelly is not here, maybe you don't have an answer to >> just the buses in general, Renee, it sounds like you have an assumption that they're getting better. I'm very curious if that assumption is true. >> Yes, they are getting better. I did actually contact our bus manager, Mr. Godad, um because Kelly actually asked me to give an update on the bus situation. He said amazingly like he's not dealing with any staff issues for our buses, which across the board, but he said the worst traffic, road situations that he's ever had to deal with since he's been doing this job. this year at the beginning of the school year. So, he said they're starting to work things out and it's been much better, but he said the first three days of school particularly were very difficult. So, >> did they have any warning from the town that that was going to be happening that day? >> No. Last year we knew about Crosby Street. We talked with them in spring about that, but no. >> Yeah, it >> Yeah, >> it would be nice. It would be. Yeah, it would have been helpful, I think. >> Yeah. I mean, there's just so many different >> for that. All the things. We had it around school last year, too. >> Yeah. Which was added issue. >> If it I mean, if it continues to be an issue, Crosby Street, so Crosby Street being closed is forcing many buses all the way down Main Street, which is just gums up Main Street, too. Like, it's so unnecessary. I don't know. I've mentioned to Robin if we could drop the high school students at like lever room fieldhouse or something to walk around the block. >> Sorry, excuse me. >> Yes. >> Um except that half the time they they get to level because parks has been closed >> and then we've been rewiring >> Yeah. >> through in front of the high school which makes high school drop off a nightmare too. So >> yeah, it's been >> it's been hard to maneuver like just for work, >> but then actually like getting the children there has been >> hard. So >> and Crosby Street is going to take longer than originally planned. >> I talked to the town about that. >> All right. Yes. Um, this is a different topic, but I feel like I had to say it cuz I said it in passing, but I have had reports of slightly >> better experiences with food. And I just I just wanted to make sure to say that publicly because it does feel as though I don't know where Kelly is, but whatever conversation, >> slightly more >> changes in choice and just Yeah. Feeling like room. >> Excellent. Feed the children. I love it. Yes. Mhm. >> I have one more item and it's simply that Friday is the 25th anniversary of September 11th and a third of the United States population, obviously all race school children were born since then. 100 million Americans have been born since then. And I know it's not probably part of the curriculum at the race school, but I certainly hope that people have conversations about 2011 as appropriate for the age of their children. >> That's all right. Anything else? If you have items for next meeting, um, please send them my way. Our next meeting is October 14th and we will be discussing the NHSBA resolutions at that meeting or at least updating on this. Um and with that I will take a motion to adjourn. Done. I move to adjourn at 9:06 p.m. Second from Carrie and we'll call vote starting with June. >> Tanton, yes. >> Russell, yes. Nelson, yes. >> Ky, yes. Sen, yes. And yes. Thank you guys.