Commission Meeting May 15, 2026 1
The Commission approved the April 17th meeting minutes. Regarding the Mil Pond Dam removal in Durham, construction on Route 108 South begins June 1 or 15, 2026, extending through November 2026. The Durham Waste Management Committee seeks regional partners for commercial composting programs. Somersworth will transition to cart-based trash and recycling collection in one year, maintaining the pay-as-you-throw model which generates about $1 million in revenue. The governor will nominate Opportunity Zones 2.0 census tracts in July 2026, with eligible areas in Somersworth and Farmington. Public comment on the draft Comprehensive Economic Development Strategy (CEDS) is open until June 7, 2026, with the final draft and response log due June 12. Land protection grant applications are due May 28, 2026. The next meeting is scheduled for June 19, 2026, to elect Executive Committee members.
[clears throat] May 15th meeting of the committee order. I am Paul Rurham Curtis Register Durham. Uh Mike Babinsky, Summerssworth. >> Mark Richardson, Summerssworth. >> Willwood building. >> Sarah Ratesman New Marketer Northwood Rochester. bringing Lisa >> Lisa Murphy's uh SRPC staff. >> Um I'm not sure Michael only has her name. >> Oh, that's you. Never mind. >> Okay. Ernie, are you there? Okay. And all right. So ah commissioner round table any updates [clears throat] contrren isn't here so I'll speak I take the risk of speaking to her bington hosted a energy day and really all week various energy exhibits uh we had three houses one of which was mine um demonstrate you know quite a community if you do a solo, if you do a super insulated house, if you you know, all the pieces that go into that, it was great attendance. We had 15 people for an hour and a half, you know, just talking energy matters in in a house. So, it was kind of a cool thing. Uh for Durham, the only real update I have is the Mil Pond Dam removal uh that may affect any transportation 108 South uh is going to commence either one June or 15 June depending on the fish migration. So that is officially happening this year. I will expect to be duration until November of 26. Uh and then full operations capable on 108 south and then it looks like they're going to come back in the spring of 27 double check and and sanity check make sure everything worked out the culmination of this like 15 years. >> Are they going to do a baseline on fish migration? >> Yep. They're they're uh I mean they're treating this as a a national historical site. So they're doing an environmental uh species as well. Uh they're I mean they're literally recording the sound of the dam, the sound of the water and uh the flow of rate and all that stuff. So they're being very meticulous and thoughtful. >> Do you guys have a fish ladder over there? >> We do. Um it it's one of the ones that only works really for fish coming in, not going out. >> Which is one of the issues that we have on during harass, right? Mine's not a new market update, but the um Office of Planning and Development at BEA did their spring planning and zoning conference over the weekend. There were very few people in attendance because it was a Saturday virtual conference on Teams all day, but all of the videos are now like up on their YouTube page if anybody wants to watch any of their there were some really cool sessions >> and um sort of a request for interest. Um the Durham Waste Management County has spent the last five, seven years trying to push composting programs and they've done a lot of they have a lot of information, education, data that they've collected. They're at the point where they're looking to try to partner with other communities to try to create a more regional interest in composting since one of the they they currently see the major roadblock to broader composting is simply the lack of commercial composters and they feel that they can generate more interest at the local level that might draw in more people who would be interested in commercially composting. So if you have any groups in your communities that are interested and would like to learn more about it, reach out to me and I'll we'll try to get them in touch with each other. >> Are you talking about food composting? >> Organics composting. Yes, food comp, you know, taking taking the compost out of your waist stream >> and thus reducing the amount of stuff you're sending to the landscape to the >> Thank you for doing that. >> Is that a regional project? >> You know, it That's that could be potentially up to us, right? I'm just saying, you know, right now I have a committee in town with a lot of expertise that is now interested in trying to broaden that. >> I was just going to add um I'll reach out on Dober's behalf because our salvation committee has also been exploring this. We added Mr. um bins at our recycling center, but those are overflowing very quickly. And then this whole debate of like what scale does it become appropriate [clears throat] communitywide. So I'll reach out. >> Thank you. >> Two quick things on summer side. Um a year from now, the city is going to transition to a cartbased collection system for trash and recycling. That's do a few other communities that are under contract with waste management. trend nationally, it's a trend regionally. Um, if anybody's familiar with the city of Rochester, they've been doing it for probably what, two decades, I would say. So, it's not new, but it's new for us. We are, in our case, we're also going to keep the pay as you throw model with the cards. We're not eliminating that in major part due to financial. So potentially a loss of about a million dollars in revenue if we said no to the pay as you throw. And probably more important is the impact on waste itself because uh the pay as you throw model incentivizes people to possibly waste less and maybe recycle more. Some of the things you guys just were talking about. But the whole cart base going into uh our neighborhoods and streets and locations is something we're going to be spending the next year on figuring out um do we need to put parking restrictions in place? Do we you know to particularly in our dense parts of the city? The downtown is particularly a concern but FYI uh the the reason for waste management doing it is tied to efficiency, safety and retention of employees. uh lifting and so forth is problematic. So that's something that we'll be going through over the next year. You'll hear more about it on social media and other opportunities to promote it and educate the public on the transition. >> One question hearing that waste management is projecting they're going to close the landfill in seven to nine years. >> Yeah. >> How does that impacting this big investment to walk away from? Well, it's a huge investment. Uh, you mean on waste management side or the city side? >> Both. >> Yeah. Um, you know, I it's an absolute key question and I think that it's something probably this group maybe in the near term should probably tackle more from a regional perspective involving waste management, involving the turnkey folks on what the future looks like. You know, if in fact it's finite, seven years and we're done, probably need to be starting now about another regional plan. What does that look like? Waste energy, more recycling, new landfill. Yes, no, trucking it to Canada, you know. So, all those things are are concerning, >> but possibly a role for SRPC, I think, in the future. >> I agree. >> This is this is my industry. This is what I worked in for all my years. And you talk to the calling companies and they give you a straight answer. within the industry. Every one of them in New Hampshire is talking about the future being sending all of our trash and recycling by rail to either Ohio or down to the Carolas or Pennsylvania or Ohio or down to the Carolas where trash tipping fees are, you know, 20 cents. uh it's it's it's uh you know versus almost a dollar and but what's the transportation gonna cost on that? >> What's the infrastructure in New Hampshire going to be on that? The north country that's why the closing of Bethlehem and why Dalton was was suggested is another landfill but you know that's on hold and probably not likely to happen. What's the cost of transportation going to be for those towns in the north country? Yeah. >> Because it the rail center would be they're projecting to be somewhere between Habil and Lawrence. You know, everything would be trucked down there and then by rail go out, but it's following the Massachusetts model with everything that they have goes out of state, >> you know. >> So, so definitely more ahead. But I I do think uh maybe and I know Jen and we we've done some sessions on this topic in the over the years and probably the second topic is and I'll just be real quick. It's just Summerssworth Plaza. It's in the news media recently I think about some redevelopment or renewed interest in the plaza. We've got a couple of new businesses going in there. Nostro which is a mixed martial arts um gym program. very popular, very successful in downtown Summersburg. They ran out of space essentially and so they they bought a larger facility or room building, excuse me, within the plaza for their uh operations and that's being renovated right now as we speak. They hope to open early in late May or early June. So, and a couple other businesses are going in there as well. is going to be like a restaurant and maybe a possible with that restaurant maybe a grocery store as well and um there's a PT uh physical therapy uh group that just moved in and the laundry mats there. So, and we've done some other landscape improvements on the plaza but just kept >> I just want to correct myself. I think I said 20 cents and I meant $20 versus $100. Oh, [laughter] >> maybe maybe you translated that, but I think you heard myself when I said that. Correct. So, just real quick, I wanted to mention that HUD has announced uh 2.0, the the federal opportunity zones um for municipalities. Uh there were in the first round of this about a decade ago there were several community there were 27 communities throughout the state that got designated in our region. It was Durham, do Summerssworth and Rochester that had tracks that were part of opportunity zone 1.0. It looks like from the map that they have on their website, a second uh census track in Summersburg is eligible as well as a census track in Farmington. So this summer uh I believe sometime in July, the governor should be nominating those census tracks to the treasury for designation. there'll be 25% um of the eligible tracks uh that are going to be submitted for that designation. So I know Farmington is looking at it um as to whether or not it makes sense for us to to move forward. I get the sense from the selectman that they want to pursue this. So, I don't know, Mike, if you know if if Summerssworth is going to pursue the second census track that is eligible um or if Durham and Rochester um are also going to be uh participating in the 2.0. But I'd love to talk to anybody that has experience with the opportunity zones. Some not something that I've got a ton of experience with, but um how it worked, you know, what what were the benefits. It's my understanding that it has a lot to do with not paying back capital gains taxes after um you know a business decides to sell after x amount of years because it doesn't take into that uh depreciation. So that's about really all I know. But it their intent from my understanding is that they really want to gear this 2.0 more towards business retention. So I wanted to just throw that out there. Uh July is going to be when the governor makes those nominations. So, if you haven't already brought it back to your communities that the economic zones um uh that they're going through that process for 2.0, I would recommend it. And like I said, love to chat with any of the communities that have uh have existing opportunity zones on how that's worked. >> Yeah, we'll follow up on probably. Thanks. a couple from do um two larger development projects that are in the works still a ways out but you might they've been in Fosters recently so just wanted to flag folks haven't had a chance to see one is a um large uh development project out on Littleworth Road um that it's the same developer as place and over if folks are familiar it's a similar idea mixed use um does have some restricted housing in it trying to look at transportation options um there's Um so they just had a a community meeting last week I think on it. Um so there's starting to be more info still early. Um also um some things have moved forward with the redevelopment of the Liberty Mutual property as well. So if folks again I know pieces but the the Fosters Art [clears throat] does a good job and obviously do planning folks as well. So just wanted to flag those um the folks as as movement happening. Um and then um exciting um I'll sort of more don't specific but um maybe examples for other communities as well. Um and folks have been following the waterfront redevelopment. So it's where our old wastewater treatment facility was. Um now has apartments and restaurants in it. Um but we just um signed a contract or agreement earlier this week um to have a paddle sports um company um start being able to do um kayak rentals. Um so trying to mix although it's a little bit higher end apartments um making sure that the park area is very oriented towards public use and access to the water um and having kayak rentals as well. So trying to understand there's some concerns in the community about it being higherend apartments um but also trying to make sure that folks have have access to that green space and access to water as well. So over the next couple months hopefully by the summer that will be all up and running. So come come back and go over Uh, so this is obviously outside the scope of Strapper County, but has there been any information on the success or failure of the Costco in Portsouth or in Newington? >> Not because I feel like that's going to bring a significant amount of worker traffic into the area. >> Yeah, we can reach out to our colleagues if I've heard of that. don't know exactly, but uh they right now are having an issue with the zoning. We're going to change the zoning to uh business residential and uh far as I know that's still under debate. >> I know from my own experience changing a zone is a living hell, right? I I do know and the project was mentioned amongst a meeting of the RTC directors yesterday and I think the general thought was that the residential was not likely to fly in Newington that they're not going to be willing to change the zoning to allow mixed use. out >> in a couple months that they'll be on top of the state law. [clears throat] >> One other do thing that we're kicking off a resilience plan process. So community engagement starts today, this afternoon. We're back to work day. I can add what is resilient to me and what this will be over the next year. more updates to come. >> What exactly does that entail? Resilience plan or what are you handling and publicizing it? >> Yeah. Well, that's part of that. So this is a a few events this summer to try to gauge where we are and then there's some probably some surveying and a series of workshops over the fall starting this more to the general we have a very robust round table. Thank you. uh minutes from April 17th. I would move approval of the minutes of April 17th. >> I'll second that by Sarah by Mike. Um any discussion? All in favor? >> I um roll call. >> Okay. You there? >> He's not a voting. Oh, >> you have all person. >> Excellent. >> Hi. Sorry. Um, we were just noting that for voting, you're not a commissioner, so we were just talking about having everyone in person here for voting purposes. >> Okay. Um, that gets us to our discussion items and the final draft is set. Thank >> Yes. [clears throat] Uh this >> okay. >> So uh good morning everyone. Um can folks online see the presentation? So, uh, Natalie and I are here today to present the draft, uh, SDS comprehensive economic development strategy that went out for public comments starting last Friday, so a week ago, that will be open through June 7th. Um, so this is a course. So, just a little bit of uh background. This presentation is really laid out similarly to how the sense is laid out. Um this is a new five-year sense. So, everything is brand new. [clears throat] All of the content has been updated. We have new themes, new lenses and vision for the region. So the first couple of slides are less uh the data that's in the SDS and more of how we got to its current structure just so everyone um has an understanding of kind of the new steps that we went through. Um but I'll start just by uh reminding folks of what the Strapford ED is. Um we are the 15 municipalities within our SRPC region that are highlighted in this blue green color. Um and the main staff that work on economic development are myself, Natalie, who will jump in in the presentation to introduce herself and present. And really what we do is we uh maintain the SDS for the region. So a regional vision for economic development. We do different technical assistance programs. Um we do different engagement activities and programs. We uh bring together economic development stakeholders from across three regions, southern Maine, our region, and region southeastern New Hampshire for regular collaboration. Um and then we also do uh different uh projects that overlap the regional planning and economic development work. So um what is a sense? I think it's important to kind of zoom out a little bit and just uh remind folks this is what we did in the plan and remind folks as well in this room is that it is the strategic vision for economic development in the region for the next five years. It includes several different components. So a regional uh overview of economic conditions throughout the 15 municipalities or throughout our SRPC region or the county um data is available in different ways. So use it in different representative ways. It includes an analysis of the region's strengths, opportunities, and goals for a sore or a SWAT activity. It includes what the strategic direction is for the region and the vision and an action plan as well. Um and then it also includes a list of submitted priority projects that align with the economic development um kind of vision and goals that were laid out in the plan and um a plan for us to evaluate our progress in the SDS over the five years. And also throughout the document is um important discussions of economic resilience as well. And uh the kind of squishiest parts of the SDS are the strategic direction, vision, action plan. This is where we get to be um really visionary in terms of what we want the region to be in the next 5 years in terms of economic development. Um and this section along with the priority projects, how they align with the different areas identified are really shaped by the guidance and feedback we heard from you all as board of directors over several meetings where we engaged with you and then also with our strategy committee which was a brand new group that we uh brought together uh late last year, early this year. Um that was the updating of the bylaws exercise we went through. um and they have been a great group to work with to help guide the sense. So, this is the first time we've really had a formalized strategy committee. Um in the past, we've had kind of a less formal version, a less formal group of people who were really helping to shape the SDS. And the strategy committee that we developed um encompasses a broad range of perspectives. So these were folks that we met with monthly over the last six months to help develop the SDS and they represent perspectives from K12, higher education, healthcare, agriculture planning, um nonprofit sector, social services, business, technical assistance, transportation, housing. We tried to get together a really diverse group of people um to provide their perspectives on the sets and we think that we brought a great group of people together to really help complement the feedback that you all were able to provide throughout this process um and the data that we were able to input to develop a really strong plan. So in the plan we really highlight that economic development is a broad uh topic. Most people hear economic development, some of them think, oh, it's just job growth. Some of them think it's just, you know, how much economic growth in terms of business starts and things like that. But the way that the economic development administration defines uh economic development is that we're promoting economic growth and we're improving the quality of life in the region. So, we're creating a environment for businesses to start, employees to have their me needs met. Um, and really trying to create an an all-encompassing environment where we foster opportunity across all different modes for people, for families, school systems that are that pipeline for educa uh pipeline for careers and all of the different areas that impact the economy. So uh like I said the SDS development um took together a couple of different areas. We have the strategy committee and board of directors um feedback because we are also updating our full comprehensive plan as well. Uh we're using the SS as a the economic development component of that plan. we are able to we were able to pull in different feedback we got from the public as well through the different regional events we did last year um in person around the region and then through the big regionwide public survey. So that fed into the sets development and then I think it was last meeting where Rachel announced the data snapshot being released all the different data metrics those also are a really important component that are incorporated into sense as well. Um, so how our SS is structured, if you remember our last SS, we had different thematic areas um and lenses for this SS. We really wanted to um be thoughtful and intentional about creating a uh vision statement for the region. Our 2021 to 2025 sets did not have a uh written out vision statement. uh the collective document was the vision, but we worked with our committee to uh uh make sure that we developed a vision statement and then from there we developed different thematic areas that impact economic development in our region. We developed particular goals in each of those areas and then we also developed objectives and specific action items to get us there as well. uh like our last said, we did also identify lenses which are areas outside of the themes that impact everything in the document. So there those are kind of the crosscutting um areas of the document. So the vision statement that was developed um with the help of the strategy committee with the review um and comments that we received from you all a couple of months ago is here on the screen. Um it's a little bit longer, but really what it encompasses is that we want or in the plan it's identified that the Straford region needs to be a uh resilient and thriving place where we leverage the strengths that we have, the natural resources and cultural assets that we have to be able to create an environment where people can afford to live, build a family, um and then where businesses can also uh start expanding and and grow as well. Some of the lenses that we identified um for the SS are so again these are these cross cutting areas that impact all of the different themes and all of the different areas. So we try to be thoughtful about these when uh throughout all areas of SES are highlighting regional partnerships and collaboration um resilience and future readiness uh quality of life and community identity and then also ensuring that we'reum thoughtful about age friendliness um throughout these discussions as well. So um that includes you know folks who may be getting older and then also ensuring that we're you know welcoming and meeting the needs of younger individuals, families, people like that. So the four thematic areas that were identified for the SESS and I think some of you may remember the activities we did our previous sets had nine or 10 um different themes and there was a lot of discussion about how they can be uh more thoughtfully consolidated. So these were the different areas that were identified as impacting economic development in the region. things that are impeding economic development but then also are really uh important strengths as well that we could leverage more to help us grow. So those are housing um business innovation and entrepreneurship workforce education and child's care and then um ensuring that our communities are healthy and environment as well. So a good portion of the document is uh laid out to discuss different data metrics relevant to the region and then also relevant to those different thematic areas. Um capacity for economic development is an interesting metric that's developed by uh the Argon National Laboratories. I believe it's a University of Indiana who develops this in partnership with the economic development administration. And what they do is they look at economic development holistically using EDA's definition of more than just job growth. It's also including that environment um for uh economic mobility and economic prosperity for businesses and individuals and families. And what they do is they look at 56 or 58, I don't remember the exact number off the top of my head, different data metrics across a variety of different topical areas. And they uh create an index or five indexes for each county in the nation. And it is a value from 0 to one in each of these different areas. And the higher you are, the closer you are to one um the more elevated you are above the national average. So 0.5 will be you're in line with the rest of you're in line with the national average. So for Stratford County as a whole, uh the five different areas, human capital, um which is human development indices, uh economic mobility is in there. Financial, which has to do with um not just personal and uh business finances, but also local government finances are in here. Um industry is diversity of industry structure or industry sectors. infrastructure is public and private infrastructure and Harvard Gibson institutions is a very interesting metric that uh covers things like higher education as well and for Straw Wake County all of our values are above that average. Um several of our values are considered elevated especially in terms of human capital things like quality of life in our region um and our industry uh mix and infrastructure. Um so what these metrics highlight is that our region uh does a good job currently at leveraging the different strengths that we have for economic development. I'm not able to go back uh go the slide. Uh our region does a good job at leveraging the different things that we have, but we've also done a good job at building different areas out to strengthen economic development as supported by states in terms of our infrastructure um and our partnerships and institutions that we have. >> Michael, are we holding questions to the end or we >> Oh, I'm sorry. Uh ask questions now. Ask them at the end. Doesn't matter. >> Uh there's a said reference to source document that does the formula. >> Yeah. Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah. So, there is a methodology document linked in the sense. It's likeund and something pages long to these numbers. Um, but they're very thorough in talking about each of the different metrics that go into here. Um, and the reason that EDA partnered with the Argon Labs is because they have the capacity to do this for every single county. So it's a really really representative um when you look at what the capacity for economic development is under so another metric um that we include in the feds is economic distress. So, the Economic Development Administration measures or defines economic distress as having an unemployment rate at least one percentage point higher than the national average or a per capita income that is 80% or less than the national average. And in order to calculate this at the smallest local level, we look at the different census tracks in our region. Um, and within the Straford Economic Development District, the latest data we have available is the 2023 5-year estimate from the American Community Survey. And in that data, we have six tracks which are highlighted here in this green color that are defined as economically distressed by the Economic Development Administration. That doesn't mean that there are other areas outside of these places that you know might not be considered economically distressed by another person's definition. And that also doesn't mean that you know everyone in these blue areas is doing poor economically. This is just a metric that uh the EDA requires we discuss in the sense um and it's also uh an interesting way to kind of look at their definition of of economic stress. So we have some of the we have the one census track that covers um uh in Durham and >> Middleton >> Middleton sorry in Durham and we have a section of Farmington section of Rochester uh two sections in um Durham and then we also have an area in do as well that are considered economically distressed. in the past uh previous data in the last um set there was a seven area that was considered economically distressed in Rochester another census tract. One challenge of this definition of economic distress is that some of these areas have really small populations. So the margins of error are big. Um, so when we looked at, you can't really compare five-year averages that have overlapping years to each other. It's not recommended, but we were looking at the flip that happened in that census track that flipped from being distressed to not distressed and the margin of error is larger than the actual value several times. Um, so again, this is not a perfect way of looking at economic distress. This is just how EDA wants us to. So now getting into the regional overview. So what we've seen in the latest data for the Strapford region, um our population is projected to grow. Um like other uh like many other areas in the state, um we are constrained by several things which we will talk about um in subsequent slides, but we are one of the we are the youngest county in the state. Um, some of that is due to UNH Durham being located here. Others is due to just the different quality of life aspects we have, the cities we have, the different types of people that we draw to the region and we incentivize to stay in the region. Um, but throughout the different municipalities in our region and a majority of them, median age is rising. universities number of children is declining regionwide. Um but despite that we are still the youngest in youngest county in the state. Uh other things that we touch on in the regional overview is we also go through our um industry breakdown in terms of jobs in the region and the projections through 2045. What's highlighted here are our largest industry sectors um as uh uh projected for 20 uh 2045. So the four largest sectors that are projected um in that 20 year time frame about are educational services, manufacturing, retail trade and social services. We also talk a little bit about unemployment um in the Fed as well. um unemployment have been historically low. Um it's a little hard to see, but um the unemployment rates here are in the twos and threes and ones, which uh is quite low. Um there are several different factors that could be impacting that in terms of uh labor force availability, um number of jobs that are available, the more jobs that there are um people looking for work. But labor force and unemployment is a really nuanced uh topic to discuss because you can really get into the immediately of you know who is the labor force when someone stops looking for a job because they're discouraged are they counting different things like that but we do do we do discuss that a little bit um in the studs but what we do want to highlight here is that unemployment continues to be very low sorry Jen yeah Sarah >> um keeping in mind that I can't see this at all Uh my question with this kind of regional data is always like is this capturing jobs in the region, people who live in the region and what their jobs are or a combination of both like if you live in the region but you don't work in the region is it just jobs in the region? >> So we we don't we don't get into it in this presentation but in the sense we do do that analysis of jobs in the region and jobs outside the region. Um and we have two maps that visualize it. Um it's also discussed in the data snapshot too if you're interested where we uh look at who where pe people who work in the Straford region but don't live here where are they coming from and how many of them are there and then the vice the opposite of that where people who live in the Statford region but work outside of it where do they go and how many of them are there and uh what what the analysis found is that uh we have a lot of people in our region who leave our region Thank you. Mike, if I might, if I'm not mistaken, the table on the left >> is jobs in the region. >> Yes. >> The bar chart on the right is people who live in the region. >> I need to confirm that. >> I believe that's >> I need a much bigger. Um yeah, I might have missed this if I addressed it, but what is the significance of the highlight and what are the highlight? >> Oh, sorry. So, this chart is doing um two things. >> Oh, I apologize. I'm talking about the one on the left hand side, not the not the bar graph, but the uh the chart, the four yellows, what are they and what do they mean? >> Yeah. So, these are the large these are the large four largest areas uh that are projected to have uh jobs in 2020. Okay. uh educational services, manufacturing, retail trading, and social services. Thank you. And for the next couple slides, Natalie, I'm going to turn it over to you to talk about these themes that let you [snorts] Oh, I see. Hear us. Say, can we hear you? >> Yes, I can hear you. Hi. Sorry. Sorry I was late, everybody. Hello. >> Oh, no worries. It looks like we just lost Natalie. Okay. >> I I Yeah, I think it was just Natalie seemed to freeze up. So, >> here we go. >> Sorry. Um, yeah, I am so sorry. My Wi-Fi dropped and I am joining from my phone, but I'm happy to present. I can see the the presentation. Um, sorry about that. So, yes, I will. Um, sorry, Mike, you haven't touched upon this slide at all yet, right? >> Uh, no, probably will. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. Um, good morning everyone. Um, so moving on to our first theme of housing. As you can see here, some of the main trends that we're seeing um include limited supply, increased prices, and workforce and demographic shifts that are highlighted that have highlighted the need for more varied housing types. So um to better understand supply we look at building permit data which is um to the left and that shows that building permits in the region have only partially rebounded even as population growth has steadily de um has steadily grown which is the green line on the left chart. Um we also look at the number of seasonal homes in the region as impact the overall supply of houses that are available for full-time residents and workers. So to the right you can see that in the region roughly 10% of all housing stock is vacant and of this share almost 60% was classified as seasonal. Next slide please. The median sales price in Straford County has continued to increase um as we can see on the left. Meanwhile median household income shown on the right have not kept pace. We know that from 2019 to 2024, the median household income in Stratford County increased 21% while the median sales price increased 73% during that same period. Next slide, please. >> Oh, we got a question from Natalie from Steve. >> Sorry, Natalie. Can you go two slides ago? The the seasonal housing, did you say 60%? >> That's what I heard, too. >> And could you just unpack that a little? What are we defining housing say? >> Yes. So um of the entire region's housing stock about 10% is considered vacant. >> So of that 10% um that share of 10% vacant housing. 60% um of homes were Yeah. >> Got it. >> Yeah. Only 60% are recorded as seasonal. So only so 60% of the rent vacant rental property >> exactly 60% of the 10%. If that makes sense >> 60% of the 10% minus 37% [laughter] on the same same topic does is there unvacant housing occupied housing I guess is a better way to say it than unvacant that is considered seasonal as well. Um uh so what is what percentage of the regional housing stock is seasonal but inclusive of both vacant and occupied or is that not a thing? Sorry. >> Um I don't know. I don't know that we track that. So vacant homes are recorded as such um when owners are at a different permanent address on census day which is April 1st. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yep. So um this slide um we see that higher housing costs and um housing related expenses have made it cheaper to rent than to buy a home even for those who are able to put 20% down payments. So um this is despite the fact that rents have also continued to increase every year. Other factors such as inflation, monetary policies um and increased taxes and insurance have also influenced housing affordability. For example, total tax valuations in Straford County have increased despite municipal tax rates declining and consumer price index for um building materials and supplies has increased by approximately 28% between 2021 and 2026. So in summary um there's limited supply of housing. There are the r the sales prices are rising. There is diminished affordability caused by higher interest rates, rising costs of goods and services um and higher taxes and wages are not keeping pace. And there is also a need for more housing types as a result of demographic shifts including smaller household sizes. So our next theme is business, entrepreneurship and innovation. Um here we look at broad economic pressures that are impacting local business operations such as inflation and higher interest rates. So on this slide we can see um that both have increased sharply which has impacted costs for businesses and also constrained household spending. In addition, we know that current global conflicts are impacting fuel costs and supply and this is going to further impact the cost of goods and services and it's not yet reflected on these charts. So notably some of the things that we talk about in the sets include um key industries that could be impacted including manufacturing and medical services and also agriculture. Some of these pressures are reflected in New Hampshire's household debt patterns, which um show that credit card, mortgages, auto, and student loan debt have all risen over the past decade, which indicates that many households and businesses are facing higher costs and or having to rely more on credit. Another trend that we're tracking is um the sharp decline in SBA business loans, which could in part be tied to recent changes in the loan program that include higher interest rates and less favorable loan conditions, but it could also indicate that business confidence has weakened. Other things that um we'll continue to track that are influencing local business operations, entrepreneurship and innovation include um the impacts of shifting demographics and also emerging technologies such as AI. So um in summary, so we have the the rising cost of goods and services which has impacted the cost of doing business and global conflicts are expected to exacerbate this. higher interest rates that have increased borrowing costs for businesses and entrepreneurs and constrained household spending. Household debt has continued to increase and there has been a decrease and SBA backed business loans which could be a reflection of broader economic factors. So for our next theme, workforce education and child care, a few trends that characterize the region as um seen briefly before include low unemployment, a labor force that is largely rebranded from the impacts of COVID, and strong educational and training opportunities in the region that position us as a competitive place to do business. Um however, demographic and economic shifts such as declining youth populations, a rise in older populations, and limited workforce and um affordable child care could lead to tighter workforce pipelines. So in this slide, for example, um we're seeing that public school enrollment is shrinking, which could mean that less people are entering the will be entering the labor force in the future. Next slide, please. Here um we see that the number of workers over the age of 65 is increasing which in part could be a reflection of broader economic pressures such as higher living expenses that may be pushing older people or older adults to stay in the workforce for longer. Um, so in addition to this, we're tracking all of those shifting labor trends and the emergence of new technologies to help us better understand how these are shaping skills and also training needs to meet current and future industry demand. Looking at trends in child care, um we know that supply lags demand where there are currently 4,638 child care slots available and an estimated demand of 5,579 children in the SRPC region. Meanwhile, other challenges include low wages for childare workers and high costs for families. um which based on these numbers on the screen um we can we know that they account for over 18% of the Straford County median household income for just one child. Um and at the same time providers are facing staffing challenges. They face barriers around establishing a new business and they also face high operating expenses. So in summary um we know that the region is characterized by high quality education and skills training institutions, low unemployment and a skilled labor force. Um there are demographic shifts including decrease in younger populations, lower birth rates and aging demographics and the lack of affordable um housing and child care which are expected to impact the future talent pipeline. We're also seeing broader economic pressures impacting workforce dynamics and reshaping skills and training needs. And lastly, um, child care is facing multi-layered challenges, including low wages, high costs for families, and financial and regulatory barriers for providers. >> Thanks, [clears throat] Natalie. And for the last theme, um, I'll talk a little bit about the healthy and vibrant topic. This is a squishier topic in terms of how do you measure if a community is healthy and vibrant. Um so within this section of the set into some of the research that's been done over the years as to what makes a community vibrant. Um and also uh talk a lot about social capital building as well. So the importance of ensuring that communities foster social capital, build connections between people um and meet their needs in terms of uh you know grocery stores being close by areas being well connected, access to natural resources, access to housing and different topics like that. um our strategy committee talked a lot about the importance of connecting our communities in more ways than just um via you know roads for cars. They talked a lot about walkability and multi-use paths. They talked a lot about ensuring that our natural resources and recreation areas are um protected and also accessible to people to ensure that our quality of life stays high in the region. Um so some of the data that we've shown on here in this chart it's a little hard to see but it's in the sets figure these are our land use changes over time. Um and a lot of the discussion that we have with our strategy committee is how uh some of our development patterns may not be conducive to healthy environment communities. How much forest and land we're losing um or development. Um different types of development patterns are discussed in here. But really in this section we lean a lot on the existing research in terms of what makes a community vibrant and how you build social capital. So also in the sense are a list of priority projects. Um so these are projects that are submitted by municipalities, government entities, nonprofits in the region um for inclusion in the events. Um so to be included here after being submitted, we ensure that all projects are in alignment with themes. So we work through them a strategy committee. Um so everything that was submitted this past year does show alignment with different themes and lenses in the sense as supporting economic development. um 14 of our local uh governments um submitted projects. Um in total we had 61 projects submitted for a total value uh projects of over $900 million. Um and these include projects that are uh under construction and have funding all the way to projects that are very kind of highlevel thoughts and conversations. Um, an example of one is, um, Bington's competitive project about pedestrian improvements at the intersections of Route 9 and ROS 125, how to better connect trails in the area, build sidewalk networks, especially because schools are right there. And one of the projects that they put into the sets involves investigating whether a pedestrian tunnel under five is a visa. So there's a broad range of types of products in the SDS. Um they are all broken out um the actual document. And I will just say too um including a project in the SDS um does make it eligible for certain economic development administration funding. um that funding really doesn't flow uh very easily or consistently. But another benefit of having the project in a sense is that it shows alignment with the regional plan makes them more competitive if they do go after other funding sources public or private. Um and we give them letters of recommendation but then letters of support for projects that are in the sets as they go after. So it is it is really this project sets. And then um lastly we also have a preliminary action plan in the sets. Uh we've laid out with the help of our committee 48 different actions that SRPC can take over the next five years. Um, we had a lot of interest from our committee about building a broader implementation plan for the events so that we can hopefully try and address a lot of the issues that we've identified um that may be impeding economic development and also foster the different opportunities that we have to support economic development. So, uh, in the actual sense, it's listed as a preliminary action plan with just actions for SRPC to consider within what we've been doing. But our committee is interested in working over the next couple of months um ahead of the one-year update which will be considered next June um to build out a broader regional implementation strategy with buyin from different partners um and uh more uh ways to measure success as well. So what's listed in the plan is preliminary just stuff that we can do what we're going to be working with over the next few months to build something a little bit more robust and all the same. So in terms of where we're at um we are in the public comment period right now for the studs that will go through June 7th. Um this presentation is an opportunity for you all to provide comments. Um or you're welcome to provide comments, you know, over email or a phone call, you know, later on if you need to digest. Um we are going to be doing this same presentation with our strategy committee at the end of the month for our last uh meeting for this kind of development cycle for the cycle on May 29th. Um public comment period, like I said, will close on June 7th. Um on June 8th we'll start the preparation of the comment log and we'll be addressing all of the different comments that we get. Um as well we're also going to be working on laying out the document into you know kind of final form if you've seen it so far. It doesn't have any pictures in it. Um it's a lot of text and charts that need a little bit of final formatting but we're going to be working on finalizing that as well. And then uh on June 12th, you all will get it in your meeting packet uh the final says with the comments incorporated for you to review at the June 19th meeting and the June 19th meeting the opportunity for you all to consider it for adoption. >> Forgive my ignorance. The board of directors is us. Yes. among other things. Commission resume. >> So yeah, happy to uh answer any questions, take comments. Now Steve, >> I know the committee strategy comm talked about this a little bit, but in considering uh child care is important, but we have Did you dive into elder care and the impacts of elder as we got an aging population? How is that going to impact the need need for elder care? What kind of jobs will that create? And also, how might that strain restrain people from participating in the labor force? And also I think would there be an impact on town revenue um because of >> okay we will um I know that we don't discuss it too directly in the fence but that's something well I would open that I don't know that that's my personal question but I does the committee feel like that was so >> well it doesn't you know really quick on >> Oh, sorry. [clears throat] I was just gonna say really quick on that. Um, [laughter] >> okay. Sorry, I can't see anyone on the screen. Um I was just going to say related to the aging population, there is uh some discussion in the sets about the impacts on the workforce um and how the aging population is going to leave some gaps in the labor force um especially as it pertains to some of the more um skilled trades. So we we do have some discussion on that. Um but yet we have to um expand on the impacts of social services. >> I'd like to jump on that too. I also had a a comment to that. And if in a handful of years and social security drops by 28% that number is going to go up to cover the difference. And I know I mean this is nobody has an answer for this or I doubt they have an answer for this but something we should be looking at is assuming that social security is going to take a hit. I'm going to take a hit. All of us that are in that bucket are going to take a hit. And I'll be pushing 80 by then and going back to work doesn't sound like a very good idea to me. And so we are not a poor state. I wouldn't say we're a rich state either. But are there things that we could be looking at regionally or statewide to kind of offset the hit that we might take? And I mean the elderly. >> So it's food for thought more than anything. >> And I would just that to echo the um finally being out of the child care mode and now starting to research the elder care is on the horizon. It's incredibly overwhelming and it's gonna blow my child care costs out of the water. And yes, parents have resources to help with that, but it's gonna fall on. So, I think it's a good >> and folks in the middle are going to get squeezed from both ends, >> right? >> Change a little bit. You >> don't have much left. Not much left. >> I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. >> Yeah. To change the subject. Well, going back to the the housing, do you have and this has always been a curiosity for me because as a planning board member, I often think about this. Do you have data on the housing or or economic development as well? How many developers are local versus not? >> Because I think the local developers have a much better picture. they have an investment in the community. They understand what people are asking for. Whereas developers from out of the area, they just want to get a built and make some money. I mean, it's really an attitude difference. And and I'm just wondering if you've ever looked at something like that. Um, and I don't know how you measured that, but you know, I I think knowing who's local versus not matters just from a planning board perspective. The other question I have um with regards to the distressed areas, I'm looking at that and and and you know there are people who are who are happy being in you know that they like open space. They like forested areas. They like they don't mind traveling to work. They like the the silence. They like the animals and they don't want that. So, I find it hard sometimes to say that that's a I would find it hard personally to say that that's a stressed community because that's not what they're looking for and their zoning reflects it and all of that. And so, I kind of look at that and go, you know, how do you measure that? But it's a factor. >> Yeah. Distress. So, so this definition of distress is required by VA being says this is this is how they define it, you know, either unemployment 1% above or 80% income less than the average. Um, I agree that it's it's tough to compare these areas to a national average and say exactly what what you're saying of like are those communities in the north of our region actually like distressed economically. Um, but it's it's in here because it's required. >> And and the first thing that those two zones in Durham, that's where two of our largest student housing. >> Just to clarify. Oh, I forgot my question. >> Uh, so distressed is just those two items. There's nothing further to look at. That's all they look at are those two. That's all EDA if you meet one of those conditions. >> So, >> thank you. That's why we we also included um the capacity for economic development at the region or at the county level because I think it's more reflective of the collective strengths we have like we have industry in our more developed areas but then we also have different types of industries and different types of human capital um met metrics in our more rural areas which also impact economic development positively. Just because a area you know doesn't have factories in it doesn't mean that it's not promoting economic development in the full definition of economic development which includes quality of life. So I think that's why our human capital measure here is as high as it is being that rate of so well above what other what the national average is being. Um, I had a quick and I won't admit having not gone back to reread the section, but can we put caveats in that thing to say like that it's student housing. I think the do example like some of the most expensive houses in do are in that block. So, I was like trying to I'm like looking at the map. I'm like, I don't know why this coronary came from because it's >> um but maybe there's some things to just put our own what we know about the region. Not to dispute it, but just to like provide our own flavor to >> whatif. >> Yeah. Yeah. And just like just like some asterisks just be like this is what these >> they're distressed because they get 75% of their income is paying for their mortgage. kind of distress >> and we think $3 million house >> and we tried to highlight um as I guess professionally as we could in the document that like this is DBA's definition which required to be here in a sense that's just what it is but uh we can strengthen that say like this is just how we define it what's required you know what may not be accurable We look like um there were a couple >> um you had described in one of the slides that if you got a capital project that's on the list, it's more favorable. >> Can you explain how we know whether or not projects are on the list and how to nominate them? >> Yeah. So, um we do project solicitation. I can't remember the exact date we started it, but it took about a month and a half early in the year where we emailed all of our municipal contacts, town managers, um, public works, uh, anyone who submitted a project in the past. We also have a broad contact list of people who represent municipalities um who could provide information on existing projects and communities that could be good for funding that align with the economic development prior this year or u you know an idea for a new project. So we did a bit of outreach in terms of emails, phone calls um some direct outreach as well too. There were a handful of projects that were submitted in the past um that we reached out to to so so this is not a weak list. Most of these projects were in the last sets but as long as we reach out to the people who submitted it and they say yes we want to keep doing sets and they provide us with updates even if the update is we have no updates um it can stay in. there were a handful of communities that chose to take projects off actively um because they were either things that they were doing themselves and they're almost done but they're already done or it's just not a priority anymore. Um and then we also had some communities who just you know chose not to continue to submit >> do they need to be public? So it needs to be submitted by a public entity. Um but public private projects are eligible as long as the public entity is there. >> Is that list in the sense? >> Yep. So the full list is in the sense um we just have uh project value if it's new municipal and your organization and uh title of project. But if you are interested in kind of the the bigger list because we ask you know a lot of details about the project and you think people can provide in like long narrative form we can provide that as well too. We just want to include it in the sides because it make the document so long but if there is a particular project that you're like oh what are they doing? How does that line? >> Thank you. to re or to follow up with Leic's question. Uh, is anything that a town submits included or is there a vetting process? So, I can say if I'm making crosswalks, I want that to be a priority project. >> Yeah, so there is a there is a process to submit which is uh, you know, just answering a questionnaire. Um, but we need to bring all of the projects to the strategy committee to review. >> Um, so they >> there is some filteration. >> Yes. We've never had a project that I've heard of where we're like >> that we're like this is not related to economic development in the sense at all. Um it will be very hard to submit a project that doesn't have some impact like things like waste water like that that all impacts of course intersectionality. >> And I'll say when um projects are being submission submitted that intake form includes identifying how that project directly relates to the themes and goals of the set. >> But you can just put anything down, right? passes like yeah it's not it's like oh I want to tell you check [laughter] >> let's see right >> it's a hypothetical question >> yeah just real quick back to the mission statement definition of volunteer capacity >> are you trying to expand And maybe there's a slide out that was right at the beginning. There it is. >> Yeah. So, um what we were trying to get at when we worked with the committee um was really uh when discussing volunteers talking about board members in communities um as well because they're technically volunteering >> recruiting them or maintaining them or >> I think that that's all the above. >> Yeah, I think that that would all be included. You don't get paid check in the mail. They're hot. >> Oh, is that Oh, sorry. I I didn't hear you. Um, just a this might be a question for later, but um and it's my first SS process. So, why why is a track selected as opposed to something more granular just from a data perspective looking at projects? the is it uh you know you could use blocks or block groups to try to winnow out some of some blocks some tracks for an entire town versus maybe not I don't know I'm just uh I'm just curious >> so in terms of the economic distress um >> yes yeah specifically this gets back a couple discussions ago but didn't have a chance to >> um so census tracks are typically the smallest geographic measure that federal data sets go to where it's considered reliable. >> Like for like we have several census tracks in our region that cover multiple municipalities just because they're so small. Um whereas if you know we tried to look at the data at the municipal level there it would just be way too unreliable. Um, so I think that's probably part of the reason why the chose to do it this way. But yeah, there are there are shortcomings um, for sure this measure. >> So commentary is open. You can submit them to Mike. >> Yep. Yep. You can um email um is probably the easiest way, but happy to you know have a discussion as well too in person. Just let me know if um you can send them to Natalie, but it's we're trying to keep them all in one place. Um and then we like I said, we will be uh compiling all of the comments um once the public comment period closes. Closing June 7th on June 8th, we'll compile the public comment log. We'll do all our addressing of the public comments and then on June 12th when you receive the final draft of the sense it'll include that public comment at the end and how we address them. >> And this is available on the website. >> Yep. So this is posted online. We can share the link out um after the fact. It's also sitting at the um Summerssworth, Rochester and Dover City Halls and the Summers Worth and Rochester Public Libraries as well. One of the public service. >> Thank you. Thank you all. Appreciate it. Executive Committee SL. >> Yeah. So every year in June, uh we adopt or we uh elect, excuse me, uh our executive committee members as well as officers. So each year your executive committee has just a one-year term. Uh so it is time to put it out there and say to our current executive committee members, do you wish to remain? Um and also um or anyone else if you are not on the executive committee but you might want to join the executive committee to please reach out. We will um assemble that slate for you all for your consideration at the June meeting where we will conduct our annual business items. >> I believe we're currently short two alternates. >> We are currently short one alternate. One alternate. Yes, we have we currently have a full seven person uh executive committee and we have one alternate. Actually, I think we can have three alternates even. Um so I don't think there's any problem with that. >> I don't think our bylaws limit the number of alternates we make. Um but we traditionally try to have at least two >> and the reason we got started late today is because we were waiting for a quorum at the executive committee that didn't get started till 12 minutes after the hour. So that few extra alternates would be handy. >> How do I put my name down for all members? >> You just thought [laughter] it just did me on the [laughter] >> instant gratification. >> Love that. Um I do also want to mention um that um our June 19th meeting date it is Junth um that day. Uh and I know it we kind of went back and forth uh internally here because we do for staff have that as a holiday for our staff. Um ultimately we decided that there are not that many of us that need to be present for a meeting to proceed on as a staff level. Um so like Mike, myself and Megan uh the core that will absolutely need to be here um for that meeting. We are going to um we're going to schedule our holiday. We're going to flex our holiday and take a different Friday in June because what we recognize is it's a lot easier for a small number of us to reschedu our day off than it is to get a forum of you here. Um, and so we're going to keep the June 19th date. Um, I guess the question that I have is does that pose any impact to you all and your ability to be here? >> I probably won't be here, but you'll be okay without me. >> I'm like 5050. >> Okay. Stay here's closed. >> I won't have to be behind buses on the way here. >> Yeah. I don't know if the school Oh, yeah. School should be out. >> In a row, I made the mistake of >> not bypassing my school to get here. >> Grant opportunities. >> Grant opportunities. I might I might toss this to Kyle as well here. There are several different grant opportunities that are open right now. They are good ones that we should all be looking at. Um, wreck trails. Mark, that due date is coming up very soon, isn't it? >> Yes. Actually, I have it here. May 29th. >> Um, if your community has a trail project that is trying to work forward, um, Mark can help you out in with that application process. um coastal resilience grants. We only have five communities in our region who are eligible for coastal resilience grants. That's uh Dober, Durham, New Market, Rollinsford, Madbury. Um generally, they're environmental resilience projects um that that would be eligible. Um also what we all affectionately call preparants um those are open. I know last year we had Abigail here to do a presentation about the PREPA grants and we had a really big window of time to scope out and develop some projects. This year we do not have that giant window of time. Um and so those applications are due mid June. So if you have a project and you have not already spoken um to Kyle and our L environment planning team, I would encourage you to do so. Um, project builder is one. Lindsay, you might actually be able to speak to that one better than I can or Lisa behind it. So, it's just a great opportunity if you have ideas that are sort of need a little support to go from idea to being ready to apply to something particularly around climate or flooding. Um, it's an opportunity to get a little bit of support to bringing your idea into more ideas. >> Yes. And then um on the source water protection side um there are land protection uh grants those are open now as well and those applications are due May 28th and that is protect you know land protection for the purposes of keeping our drinking water supplies clean. So wanted to mention those are out there and available and please reach out if you have a project that you would like to partner on. I have a comment on the recreational >> Hold on, Ken. We got one person first. >> On the recreational trail projects, uh I believe the last I read was about last week. the uh prere prerequisite of uh applying for it. You have to have attended a class or a session by April 29th. >> I went >> Mark W. >> So if you coordinate with Mark, you can use him as your >> mark >> check box. >> Well, I don't have an issue with that. I just want to make sure >> nobody doesn't apply for it. We don't know anything about it. >> Oh, so also on the topic of recreational trails, if um if anybody would like a letter of support, S Coast Area bicycle riders, if it has bike or pedestrian implications, would be happy to um you know, write write a letter of support for most types of trails, you know, uh for most types of purposes. if you're going to be walking or biking them. So, um please reach out to me if if you'd like that or or that could help lend some uh weight to your to your uh to your grant. I don't know who's applying at this point, but I'd be happy to work with you. >> Summerssworth is okay. Well, >> one them to them ASAP. >> Yeah, let's let's let's chat. Um, we we've done this for other organiza other towns and cities and I'd love to do it again for anybody in the room. So, >> my name is Curtis. I'm in Durham. I can't read your last name. Would you mind spelling it out for me, please? >> Absolutely. Uh, McDermott, MCD R M O TT, >> thank you. Thank you for that office support. Do those grants include um state forest type trails? For instance, in in Northwood, the crank pullers maintain it's a motor uh snowmobile club maintains a lot of trails in town. Most of it is done volunteer-wise. Does any of this grant money help offset their costs? Because they have all the big groomers and everything. >> It's really quite an operation. >> Yes. Snowmobile clubs are like twothirds of the applications every year. >> So, they probably already know that. >> Yeah, I I mean I can find out, but yeah. >> Same as same as ATV clubs because I'm a trail administrator for an ATV club. >> Y I knew about it. >> I've applied for them several times. for >> I'd like to introduce a new staff person. >> Okay, >> we have Lisa Wise has joined us as a new staff person. Um we we we have a bad habit of pilering staff from our friends. So, I apologize to Lindsay because previously Lindsay's coworker at UNHC Grant um but we are very happy to have Lisa join us here on our land and environment team. Um she is jumping right in and working on several of our flood resilience related projects. Um she is the staff planner with Straford and oh she's gonna be jumping into a few other students >> just reminded me of something when you said UNH student. So um plane board just had a presentation for my capstone team on sustainability that had to do with nature friendly lighting. Um it is on our our May 13th uh decat uh if you want to watch it and we are working on getting all the materials posted so that they will be sharable. But that included a uh sort of a step-by-step users guide for any anybody whether they're a resident or a company commercial entity to be able to walk through their property and try to decide what the best choices for lighting are in a way that would balance human safety and security with uh nature friendliness >> regards to circadian rhythms and things like that. Um I think that's going to be a really good thing. one of the capstone members as a uh graduating planning student who has a job at Upper Valley RPC to see that >> just wanted to share that. I think I think it would be a very it's going to become a very useful resource. >> Can I just uh plug our annual meeting? Um, I'm sure you're getting uh the notices for June 25th at the Oaks Golf Club in Summerssworth, 4:30 to 7:30. We have two out of three. >> All three. >> All three. Okay. >> Fantastic. So, we um we have the commissioners from DOT. So that's David Rodrig um Robert Scott who is the commissioner of DEES and Lucy Lang is the commissioner from BEA. So uh we thought it would be really great to have sort of high level leadership at those three state agencies as they sort of coincide with the RPC MO in EDDD of our work at the planning commission. Um, so while we're, you know, overall looking to celebrate 55 years in planning, we also wanted to be looking forward. And so we thought having the perspective of the leadership of those state agencies would be a really good way to get their perspective of where they see the state going and how the planning commission can help sort of move along with that and help municipalities kind of meet those larger goals. So I think it's shaping up to be a really great event. Um, we've, you know, the subcommittee is working really hard on kind of pulling some past projects together, how the region has changed over the last five decades. Um, and I think that our choice in speakers is going to be a really great discussion. So, I hope everybody can make it. And if you haven't already registered, please do so. >> Motion to adjourn. [snorts] >> Second. >> One sec. One sec. Sorry. Sorry. Oh, sorry. >> I've got one one more comment. Um, so I just wanted to wish everybody a happy bike to work day. Um, it is the third Friday in May every year. It's a little rainy today. It was the reason I was late. I was out in Kery handing out free breakfast to people who work at the shipyard. Um, but I wanted to invite on behalf of the Dover Transportation Advisory Commission and our planning department, anybody who wants to come by the Dover Transportation Center today at 400 p.m. We're doing a bike from work event. So, that's just again a chance to meet people out who are out riding. Uh, the weather should be cleared by then. So, I I hope if anybody wants to go, uh, I'll I'll be out there with members of our planning department. Um, and then also two other opportunities that have come up in June before our next meeting. I'll be in Milton on June 3rd discussing safety for bikes and ebike safety with the elementary school. So, if I'll probably pop by city hall and see who's around uh or town hall on that day and uh I would love to see people if people want to chat on June 3rd I'll be in Milton and June 12th the same topic in New Durham. uh we'll be talking about specifically bike safety, but then also as ebikes become more popular, especially amongst the youths, uh we need to talk about ebike safety as well. So, um just some opportunities if if you're around and you're in New Durham, I'd love to I'd love to uh meet in person. You know, I I will be in the room with you guys again probably for the next meeting, but it just uh these are some cool opportunities to talk about safety. So, thank you. Sorry. Sorry to delay. I just some exciting things happening. So, >> thank you. Already voted. We're journ