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Board of Selectmen 9/14/26

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buddy.
>> Okay, it is 5:30, so we're going to
start the meeting of September 14 select
board. Uh Jenny, are you here?
>> Steve
>> here.
>> Steve
>> here.
>> And I'm here and Andy is not here with
letting us know ahead of time just yet.
>> Okay. So,
pledge allegiance. First
to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it
stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
Okay.
Uh, approval of minutes. Everybody get
to see them?
>> Yep.
>> You want to do the one or we do one at a
time or
>> uh,
what are the dates? Oh, 7. Let's do
72026 first.
Minutes from 720 26. I
>> make a motion to approve those.
That's our Okay, we got a first and a
second.
Anybody want have anything to talk
about? Okay, so let's vote. Um, we are
voting to accept the minutes as written
for 7206.
All those in favor?
>> I I
>> Are you keeping track of that?
>> It's on the recording. Oh, okay.
>> Nobody opposed.
>> Nobody. Anybody? No, nobody's opposed.
>> Okay.
>> Um, now we're going to do the minutes
from 8326.
>> I move we accept.
>> A second.
>> Okay, we got a first and a second.
Anybody have any comments or questions?
Okay. So, all those in favor of
accepting the minutes from A326
say I.
>> I. I.
>> Any oppose? Nope. So, 40.
Okay. So,
that's next under new business.
Uh, do we have to say who's not going to
be here? Yeah, Bob Lerno is going to do
his presentation next week, so it'll be
in front of a full board.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. And now we have signing of the
election warrant
to the in inhabitats of the town of
Ashlin in the county of Grafton, New
Hampshire. You are hereby notified to
meet at the William J. to Tyrone
Gymnasium at 27 Highland Street in
Ashlin on Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026.
The polls will be open at 8:00 a.m. to
700 p.m. to act on the following
subjects.
to bring your votes
for governor, United States Senator,
United States Representative in
Congress, executive council, state
senator, state representatives, and
county officers.
Given under our hands and seal this 14th
day of September in the year of our
Lord, 2026.
All those in favor. I
>> I oppose. And we just sign them in both
places.
>> Yeah. Just read. Do you have to read the
bottom one?
>> That one. It's
>> not the same thing.
>> It's different, I think.
>> Okay. The bottom. We hereby certify that
we gave notice to the inhabitants within
named to meet at the time and place and
for the purpose within mentions by
posting an attested copy of the above
warrant at the place of the meeting and
at the office of the town clerk on the
15th day of September 2026.
>> Do we have to do another all you in
favor?
>> Yeah.
>> Is everyone in favor? Yes. Yes. Okay.
>> Just sign both places
and it will be posted tomorrow.
Are you going to talk about the tractor?
>> Okay,
>> pretty much sure it's me.
Turn towards you. Oh, no.
He's got me.
Earlier it had me in two places. See how
it picks up the uh TV behind.
>> It was like a double image. I think I
move my hand left and then the other
image should be a delayed reaction. It's
kind of weird.
>> Thank you.
>> That Becky.
>> Okay. So, the next thing on our agenda
is water and sewer department tractor
purchase.
>> So, uh Andrew's on vacation for another
week, so he did a write up for me to
read. Uh lease purchase for the new John
Deere tractor. The water and sewer
department is requesting a replacement
of its 2009
loaded tractor, which has served the
department and others for 17 years. The
tractor is used for mowing, snow
removal, around hydrants, beach raking,
and other necessary work. In the past 5
years, nearly $5,000 has been spent on
parts and outside service in addition to
in addition to labor savings
from town staff. Uh further repairs are
likely and could exceed the tractor's
current value. In 2026, the department
expects savings from a purchase made at
a s significant lower cost through an
outside vendor. I would like to apply
these savings towards the lease purchase
of the tractor that was originally
planned for the 2027 budget. This
approach would use valuable savings in
the 26 aortion budget and reduce the
budget impact in 2027.
and he's got some pictures of uh
yeah the unit
and then the John Deere kind of spec
sheet here
>> has
first part of it is the tracker itself
>> with the cab and all that stuff you can
see that the retail price was 54638
on a radio kit installed
And then it was deeply discounted
through the municipal bid process
that just the tractor alone was
discounted $9,74
to a total of $48,200
for just the tractor. Then the loader
attachment, you add that on.
They discounted the loader attachment
$1,278.
So, the liver attachment, the new price
is $8,300.
So, the grand total
is
$56,500
and it's one payment annually for
12,63192.
>> Are you in favor of both of these
purchases?
You
>> Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. And the old
tractor will be going bye-bye. It's or
not. It's past.
>> You're not going to endorse it along.
>> Nope. Okay.
>> Nope. And the attachments,
the uh rear mower,
the well I call it the over the rail,
but it's the extendable arm will work on
this tractor and the other attachments
also.
>> Okay.
So
it's already plumbed to accept the
attachments
>> and we have the money for this.
>> Yep.
>> So board wishes to take a vote to
approve it
and to have me sign the note the lease
purchase for it.
>> Okay. Would anybody like to make a
motion
for the tractor
or
>> motion?
>> 56,500
total.
>> It's the back page.
>> Yeah. 56,500
with an annual payment
of 4,63192.
And you're signing a lease on that?
>> Yes.
>> Yep. I get that motion.
>> Second. We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion?
>> All those in favor say I.
>> I. I.
>> Anybody opposed?
>> Nope.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay.
approval of practicing quote.
>> Nope. Um purchase of the 2026.
>> Yep. Yep. I skipped that one. I think on
the page.
>> So um that purchase
um we had worked Craig had worked on
this deal and um we had a very short
time to take advantage of
this deal because we're getting the deal
was going to expire. The price was going
to go up. So, I reached out to Andy to
pull the board to see we had the we have
the money in CRF monies. Um, pulled the
board and I thought it best to, you
know, bring it to the public that it was
approved is to replace a 200
I want to say I think it's a 2011 F350
that the body was falling off it and it
>> Yeah. And ironically, um, this purchase,
it's going to be it's going to be a
workhouse. So, the spreader, the sander
that goes in the back was already
rebuilt last last winter,
>> new chain and whatever. And then the,
uh, front plow was only got a half a
season on it.
So, um, the other truck, the
550 had a catastrophic failure, which is
the other little workabe that goes
around and does like the transfer
station, everything. That had a
catastrophic fuel management failure,
which is going to cost over $10,000 to
fix, which exceeds the value of that
truck. So, timing was everything. this
buying this truck is going to carry the
load this winter
>> and we'll be looking to replace the
other truck in the next budget cycle.
So, uh it's currently out right now
getting upfitted. It's getting the head
I call it the headed rack, the back rack
on the back body, the lighting package
installed, the bed liner, the wiring
harnesses for the spreader and the front
plow.
But I thought it should be out open that
the board had approved it. So if you
want to call another vote for it just to
approve it in the public.
>> Okay. So would anybody like to make a
motion?
>> I'll move that we approve the purchase
of the truck
>> for $51,412
for
>> come from the public works CRF.
>> Okay.
>> And what he said.
>> Yeah. And thank you, Craig. Did a good
job
working that deal.
>> Do we have a second?
>> A second.
>> Okay, we have a first and a second.
Anybody
want to talk about it or
All right. Those in favor? I
>> close mom.
>> Okay,
now approval of the crack ceiling quote.
>> Yeah, ironically, this one kind of fell
through the cracks. Um
Yeah. Um, so what happened was is um
Craig assumed that I could approve the
original quote for $18,800
and
um that is above what the town manager
can approve. I'm I'm only good for up to
$15,000 and it has to go before the
board. Um,
ironically, the contractor showed up the
next Monday
with a full load of hot material ready
to put out rather than
having that go to waste. I said, "All
right, just do one day and then I'm
still going to bring this entire quote
before the board for approval." We do
crack sealing every year. It's and the
we do have the money for this. It's out
of the U
grant money that we get every year. The
um
remember it's the road. I know what you
mean.
>> It's the road money.
>> Oh, the highway block grant money. Yeah.
So,
>> um, so rather than penalize the
contractor cuz we kind of dropped the
ball on getting it approved, I approved
$4,700 for one day. So now I'm looking
for an approval for 14,100 just to keep
it clean.
>> Y
>> and these were all the roads that will
be done that um, right, the DPW director
had selected to be done.
>> Yeah. Do we have a motion?
>> Make the motion to approve that 14.
>> No second.
>> Okay, we have first and a second. Any
questions?
Okay. All those in favor say I.
>> I. I.
>> Any oppose?
>> Where you going to do it came from?
Yeah. Um, so I had received an email um,
questioning if we if the town would
change how the campers uh, pay for their
sites. Um, currently it's
uh, what is it? 1,900
by Columbus Day. And then if you keep
your camper on the site, it's 200 bucks.
And if you're going to have a boat
there, it's 200 bucks. So it'll be
21,100 bucks and then your next payment
is due by date specific another 1,900
bucks
>> April 1st.
>> April 1st.
>> So it's all you know it's all due before
the season starts.
>> Yeah. Okay. So the question the question
was is um
you know some of the campers there are
on a fixed income retirees and it's
they find it a little difficult to come
up with that much money by Columbus Day
and then the other date would the board
consider doing like a $500 deposit by
Columbus Day that kind of shows the
intent that they're coming back. If
they're going to leave the camper there,
it' be another 200. And then if they're
going to have the boat on the site, it'd
be another 200. So it' be 900.
>> Yeah. 900. And then
do a payment of 1,650 in December and
then in February another 1,650. That
that makes the town whole for that site.
Um
>> So we're still whole for the site before
the season begins.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
You know, I know I've been told that,
you know, there was some issues in the
past and uh
you know, it's it's entirely up to the
board
>> where they beat the first payments but
not the final payment or
>> um I think that's happened where it was
a struggle to get the final payment. But
I think if it's clear in the contract
then we hold them to it, you know,
hopefully it works out. But
um
>> what do you think
as the record.
Uh
well, we used to have it where there
were four payments
and then
there was issues with people not getting
them to us on time and
you know the whole thing with
how much extra time do we give them to
make the payment before we
>> I say we make it date specific in the
>> hard to collect after the fact a lot of
times you know they're Yeah,
>> they're gone. Yeah,
>> but it's entitled at the board. We can
leave it status quo or
>> what is it now?
>> How does it work now?
>> Uh, so it says
the season fee for a campsite is 3,800.
A campsite deposit of 50%
of the seasonal site 1900 must be
received with a complete campsite
application no later than 5:00 p.m. the
Friday before Columbus Day weekend.
Uh no late applications or payments will
be accepted. Should a campsite be
relinquished voluntar voluntarily before
January 1st the total deposit will be
returned after January 1st half of the
deposit 950 will be considered
non-refundable
>> how does that policy compare to other
such sites
>> um I know
my campsite where I have my camper
I have to pay for the storage and half
of it up front.
And what does the other half have to
before the season?
>> May 1st. Yeah.
>> Before you can technically move in kind
of, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> What what what did this request?
>> It was a It was an email from one of the
>> one So, one person.
>> Yeah. Yeah. One person that, you know,
obviously it must have been one or two
of the other campers had
asked if he'd reach out.
>> Yeah.
>> To see, you know, if there's any way to
change it. But like I said, you know,
it's entirely up to the board. I mean,
>> how long has it been? How long has it
been the way it is now?
Um, we had to change it just before
uh when everybody had to go out. What
was that two years ago?
>> 24.
>> Was it because people weren't paying
timely and or whatever? There were just
issues.
>> Yeah.
>> Because we had it set up with four
different like I can't like it was like
750.
I'm not sure if that's total, but we
made it um January, February, March, and
April, the first of each of those months
so that it was split up more. And people
didn't
>> And I know when you do like a I know
it's not the exact same thing, but when
you do an Airbnb or anything like that,
it's usually half initially and then the
other half before you get there. So, I
don't think that's an uncommon
expectation.
I just thought, you know, I just thought
I'd bring it forward and see if there
was, you know, a will to
try a change or we just leave it status
quo.
>> How long has it been this way?
>> One year.
>> Just one year. Two years.
>> Is it two now?
>> Everybody was out in 24, came back in
spring of 25.
So you did it in 24 before the
everybody.
>> We did it in 25 and 26. This will be for
the 27 season.
>> Y
>> but it was put in place because
>> of issues
>> of issues. Y
>> we went to
like the for the camper and the boat.
>> Yep.
There's two other
um contracts that they have to sign,
>> right, for those to leave the camper
over the winter and if they want to pack
their boat over the winter,
>> right?
>> Or they have waiverss and stuff. So it's
like these two are totally different
than these than this.
>> I get that. Yeah.
>> It's separate.
>> Yeah. Cuz that's a storage fee really
basically.
>> Yeah.
>> And they can avoid that by taking it
out.
>> Mhm. Yeah,
>> based on a previous experience and
that seems to the way we're doing it now
seems to be somewhat standard. I
wouldn't think we would want to change
it.
>> No, we don't want to.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
I I I think simple is best. This is
simple. It starts getting
>> Yep.
>> more complex.
Is there anybody from the campers here
or
>> there's nobody online?
>> Okay. All right.
>> You wish.
>> Um
Okay. I would
Do we need to vote on this?
>> We're not changing it, right?
>> Not changing it. So I I can just report
back to the
>> the individual that went before the
board and we're going to leave it status
quo
>> and um you know he's more he's more than
welcome
>> to approach us next year, you know.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Um
>> yeah,
>> we'll keep the dialogue open.
>> Yeah. So, if we don't have the contract
and money by
the Friday before Columbus Day weekend,
they're expected to take their camper
and go.
>> That's part of the contract.
>> So, it's just going to stay as it is.
>> Just want to make that clear.
>> Yeah. We're just going to We're just
going to change the year on contract for
the 27.
>> Okay. Did you say you had something?
>> Um, well, I got an email from one of the
campers asking if they could um have
until Wednesday
after home day weekend so that they
could stay through Monday and enjoy it
and then pack up in the next two days.
I said I would bring it to the board
max.
>> They got to winterize it and stuff
anyway.
>> They got to do stuff and they want to I
don't have a problem with that as long
as there's a fixed date,
you know, kind
>> that stays on a Monday. So they'd be
definitely out Wednesday.
>> It' be all winterized closed up.
>> Yeah, cuz and I would like
close the uh
>> So be the 18th. We'd be turning the
water and everything off.
>> Right. Isn't it the
>> 14th? Right. Isn't
>> Is it 14th
>> in the right year? Yeah.
>> Does that cause a headache for you?
>> Um, no. I just I know ahead of time I
can have
electric come and shut stuff down and
>> when when to do it kind of thing. Okay.
>> Yeah. All right.
>> Yeah. Because we'll they'll need
the water left on and electric left on
to get it done.
>> Yeah.
>> What days? Columbus days on a Monday,
right?
>> Just is this just for one camper or for
all of them?
>> For everybody.
>> Well, if you do it for one
>> for everybody. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And basically that gives them they
should be winterizing the campers
anyway,
>> right? But that way they can celebrate
Columbus Day. So that would mean
>> they were out on Wednesday,
>> the 15th. The
chain will go up.
>> Yep.
And the water and electrics off.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Cuz has to blow all the lines out
and everything.
>> Mhm. Yeah.
>> I'm the board is
>> you're okay with that?
Okay.
>> Do we have to vote or we just tell them?
>> You can just tell them.
>> Okay.
All right.
Now, it's time for the town manager
report.
>> Yeah, we're gonna meet in two two weeks
in a row. Um, so I'm proud to announce
that Alex Thompson, PDM member of the
the ambulance our ambulance crew has
attained his paramedics license.
>> Nice.
>> That's that's amazing.
>> That's a big deal.
>> Especially nowadays.
>> Mhm.
>> Um,
DPW is finishing up with the prep work
for this summer's paving project.
Uh the contractor for the waterline
project on Winona has begun installing a
temporary service. If anybody's driven
out towards the uh campground,
we've already temporary service across.
>> Yeah. uh today and tomorrow, I think
Thursday, they're back in Plymouth and
then they'll be back up because they've
got to disinfect a line and then then
they can start hooking people up to the
temporary service. Um they're going to
have to do one road crossing, run a
twoinch line over to get the people
across the street.
>> How long be on temporary?
>> Oh, they they're going to be couple of
weeks. They'll be done with that project
pretty quick, I think. in the state
kitchen for them to get done too because
they've got to do the patches across the
road that they disturb. That's going to
get beat down in and ready for winter
>> full before you know it.
>> It's the leaves are already fallen.
>> Uh and then lastly, the sewer treatment
project is pro progressing nicely. The
foundation
is in for that UV building that's going
to treat the outflow and everything. Um
once once that's all installed and all
the infrastructurees in it and it's
actually up and working, then they're
going to decommission the two do
um things in that area there. That's
where they currently treat the outflow.
Well, that'll be all decommissioned.
>> And what's going to happen to that
eventually? You know, I mean, they're
there. They're going to be removed
eventually or they'll dump
>> they're going to implode them and they
fill it. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
So, u
for that
>> couple questions.
>> Sure.
>> Well, I know that about four or five
weeks ago, we had already got from the
uh cell tower company. Anything from
them?
>> Yeah, they just sent they just sent me
and called me today. That'll be on the
agenda for the next
>> Okay.
>> Um yeah, they're looking to renew the
contract, so we need to start that
negotiation phase.
>> Okay.
>> Yep. Just talked to them today.
>> Excellent.
>> Didn't make the agenda this week. It'll
be on next year.
>> And what's the what's the timing of our
when our audit is done? Our town audit,
municipal audit.
>> Um, they had a few questions that
Marissa had to pull some more survey
questions. She's already pulled that,
got it back to them. It's in progress.
We normally get it for print for the
town report. We normally have it by the
time we go to print for the town report.
So that's When did you get it? Last
year.
It's my first year here at Sun. It was
late.
>> Was it late last year? It made the time
report though.
>> Yes.
>> Now, do they do they come and go go over
that with us as a group?
>> Nope.
>> You know, they'll send a draft.
>> We all get a chance to look at the draft
and if there's any questions and then
they'll send our copies
>> then, you know, we'll sign it and
receive it and then we upload it to
DRRA.
>> Okay.
It's nice to stay current with the
audits. The RA much appreciates that.
>> I'm sure.
>> And we also need to know exactly where
we are with fund balance.
>> Yeah. Right. That's why I was curious if
they kind of go over with us in any way.
>> Well, they'll send us the draft copy for
you all to review and everything prior
to signing it and
>> Okay. Accept it.
>> And they'll tell us if they're not
happy, right?
>> Oh, yeah.
Well, usually the second p first last
half of the first page and the second
page is any findings.
>> Y.
>> So, yeah.
>> Okay.
>> All I got.
>> So, we don't have any old business. We
just How about selectment items? Anybody
else have a selectment item? I'll just
quickly mention because I we since our
last meeting I we were going to be
putting in our application for the
opportunity zone.
>> Yeah.
>> And we did end up doing that on the date
that it was due which is the 28th of
August. So we should hear by the end of
September if we're one of the 25 that
gets recommended to the governor and
then the governor has till the end of
October
>> to make a final decision
>> to make a final decision.
>> Thank you brother.
>> This lady over here have a lot
>> lari was a very very crucial helping get
that done.
>> Lori, Michelle and the four of us kind
of worked on it and put it together. So,
worked out well.
>> Good.
>> Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> So, I had something to bring up. Um,
it's not really a select board thing,
but um the basketball and tennis courts
>> are
in rough shape. We've had a lot of
bikes, not bicycles, like motorbikes and
stuff like that.
>> The ebikes.
>> Yeah. On them and tearing them up
>> and stuff and
>> and they've torn up a couple of the uh
crack patches that were done years ago.
>> Yeah. I mean,
>> they'll they'll put a patch over a crack
and then they recote
>> like skidding and doing burnouts. I got
a bunch of slots.
>> Yeah, even though right the door where
you go in it says no bikes, no
>> all that stuff. Um, and you guys can
take looks at these pictures.
>> There's actually some
>> some really bad ones.
>> Yes. And I've sent things out there.
>> I mean, there's a bunch of different
ones and you can see like
>> the They're not the same. None of them
are, but um
>> you can see like
>> when they burn rubber and stuff and tear
up big patches of stuff.
>> And I I'm at a loss of what to do about
it.
>> Under 16, I would assume.
>> Yes, we are.
>> So, um
>> we tried taking the power away from them
down there so they can't recharge them.
I I I I heard they were complaining that
the power was off in the park, but it
was available in a tennis court. That
was what was on Facebook. Whether that's
true or not,
>> I'll check into that.
>> Um but um
can we somehow charge them to fix it?
>> Well,
um we have
sent stuff to the PD
pictures, you know, because we have
cameras. We can show you.
>> Yeah,
>> I got nothing.
>> Cuz if they're like underage, parents
aren't going to be particularly happy if
they get the bill.
>> I I don't know. But um
>> Well, some of the cracking the crack
>> some of the crack some of the crack
>> the cracking, but damage surface.
>> Right. Right. Right. And they're they're
excellent thrown on the stuff. And um so
uh
>> unless unless we unless there's some
consequence of them doing that
happening.
>> That's that's the thing. There's got to
be be consequences.
>> They got to get caught, you know, by the
PD and
>> you know and and
>> brought to their parents and have a
conversation about their ebike usage and
>> well this this weekend there was all the
Pemmy Baker soccer games down there. I
saw the kids buzzing the field
>> and I got uh text messages from parents
saying there's kids here tearing up the
field. So,
>> right,
>> they were over doing donuts in the uh
playground playground area with us.
>> So, I called the PD and
I don't know. I haven't heard anything.
>> I didn't There has to be there has to be
consequences. I mean, they're they're
destroying property or they're making it
unsafe cuz it's a place for kids to
play. And the bikes aren't the motorized
bikes aren't supposed to be on this.
>> None of the bikes are supposed to be
there.
>> They're not Right. Right.
>> And they're supposed to have helmets and
Right.
>> Well, I'll have another conversation
with the chief. Something's going to
happen
>> because, you know, because somebody's
getting eventually, you know, the
property is getting degraded. I want to
say destroyed. It's getting degraded,
but then somebody's going to get birds.
Well, what I would like to do, I know
it's not time yet, but I think the
tennis courts are bad enough we should
lock that up.
>> They're curazz now cracks and
>> so on the tennis courts just for future
and I know some people I've talked to
said no they're tennis courts but other
people have talked to is we can make
them a combo tennis courts pickle ball.
a lot of places
>> and then you know and if they're pickle
ball um there I think I I'm not a pickle
ball player but I know a lot of people
who play pickle ball and we get people
on them and if there people using them
>> they're going to police it.
>> Yes.
>> I I was just
>> I haven't seen that many people using
the tennis courts this summer.
So I mean it's just you know something I
I it says I don't know what something
like that would cost to
>> it's just different paint when I was
talking to the um
three different I don't know was written
on the back
>> well I talked to three of them to get
estimates and um
>> what we would do is we would have one
still be the tennis court paint all
those lines
>> and then they just paint uh pickle ball
lines on the other one because you can
do like the net is one on each side.
>> Mhm.
>> Yeah.
>> So, it's just
>> painting the lines differently.
>> And there's no there's no uh insurance
consequences.
>> Nope.
>> We just have to get um different nets.
They're lower. I believe
>> they're a little bit lower.
>> But, um so,
but then we we've got the problem with
the
>> the bikes.
>> Bikes. Yes. Yes.
cameras.
>> Absolutely.
>> I mean, have we and are the cameras such
that we have been able to identify the
individual?
>> Absolutely.
>> Well, then we just got to they just got
to
>> the PD step. Yeah.
>> Isn't that vandalism?
>> Yes, it is.
>> Yeah, it is.
>> Yeah. Oh, sorry.
>> Absolutely.
>> What about if you put like a turn style
in the gate? You know how when you're
going to the MBTA or something? So, they
can't get their bikes in there.
That's interesting.
>> That's only
>> Well, no.
>> Well, they're they're not supposed to be
on the field, the tennis court,
basketball courts, any of the best.
>> Those ebikes go like 30 miles an hour.
>> Oh, they're fast. I mean, yeah. Yes,
they are. Yeah.
>> Yeah. This bottom line is there's got to
be consequences. I was talking.
>> Well, dep depend on the kilowatts. It
could be considered an ATV and you need
to it needs to be registered with
fishing game and the person needs an ORB
license and they need to ride it where
they're supposed to be riding it, not
not up and down Winter Street and
>> you know,
>> Mil Street,
>> Mil Street. From what I understand from
what Will has said in the past is
trying to when the kids are underage
there's he can go and talk to the
parents but the courts don't do as much
because they're underage they got to get
>> restorative justice kicks in and
>> yeah but we got to do something little
bit at a time I mean because also they
were throwing trash kick taking over
trash cans and stuff to the point where
we had to hire somebody to go down and
clean daily.
>> See, that's the kind of thing if they're
doing trashes like
>> there's a sign right there that says
>> $250
or up to 200.
>> What's considered of age? What is the
age? What what what is the age?
>> I don't know.
>> I have to talk to the chief
>> and a 12.
>> No. for to for them to have to be to be
able to be charged or something or is it
16?
>> I mean
>> this is
right on Mil Street on Saturday.
>> I mean I can tell them to leave and they
ignore me and
not the nicest children.
>> Wow.
But they know how to get out of there
before the police get there when you
call.
>> Well, once once you get a new sprinkler
system, we'll just soak them down when
we see them.
>> Between the keys and the
but I mean the basketball courts are
getting pretty
>> worn down.
>> Yeah.
>> Iffy, too. I mean, they get used in
basketball a lot.
>> A lot.
>> Yeah. A lot. And so,
>> um, yeah,
>> that's really not one you can shut down
either.
>> Nothing around.
>> Yeah. And a lot of times you've got
you've got, you know, two games going,
one in each end. You can see them.
They're very, very busy.
>> Um, so which is good,
>> right? And it's right where people can
see it.
>> And so the tennis courts are right out
there, too. I mean, it's not like it's
behind the woods somewhere.
>> Uh, they're doing it at 9 10:00 at
night. They know how to because that's
why we locked up the lights because they
would make it so the lights
>> they were turning the mains off on the
lights so they could
>> so they could be down there in the dark
and doing all this stuff.
>> So we can't we can't lock them out at
night
>> out of
>> the tennis courts.
>> Well, I
we can lock them up with a paddle lock
anytime we want.
>> Yeah. Can we I mean for a while to get
them out of the habit. Well, I think
right now we got to lock it down anyway
because it's till we get it fixed and
that won't happen till next spring.
>> Right. I just take the net.
>> But that's too bad. That means there's
no tennis or anything all falling.
>> Right.
>> Right. That's too bad.
>> Yeah.
>> But we don't want people tripping on
cracks.
>> We don't we don't
>> now that we're aware of the damage and
someone primates may not cover it.
>> Right. Right. But we can we can start
planning out the um
>> we'll put a notice on there due to the
damage.
These are out of commission until the
repair necessary repairs are done in the
spring.
>> Sorry for the inconvenience, but we got
to fix it.
>> So then maybe
>> we're going to have to come up with that
money
>> in the budget.
>> So can we look into doing as we doing
the repair, doing the rehab, whatever,
putting one of pickle ball? Would that
make sense? Is it would that make sense
at time?
>> That was my plan if the board said yes.
to do it because they'll do the whole
thing,
>> right? They got they got one way or the
other. So the
>> it's
Yeah. Right. And then you have two and
they're like grindless
>> one side and then tennis on one and then
two pickle ball courts on the other
side.
>> Okay.
Okay. Cuz when you drive by like the
Jackaland, they have the tennis court
and they have the
>> they painted theirs so it does both
tennis and pickle, but they also have
the rolling net
>> if another group if they're doing like a
tournament play and they want to have
two going, they mark the spots where to
set it up and
>> they can have two pickle balls going on
the same court.
>> Okay. Okay. So that can be planned out
and
>> Yeah.
>> done in the spring hopefully.
Okay.
>> So, so that with that being we can lock
the tennis court so the bikes are out of
there.
>> There's what three gates that we'd have
to walk.
>> Yeah.
>> And you have cameras on if they break
in.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> You could see them.
>> Yeah. They
>> just like we said when they burp into
the booster pro and the snapshot
>> and nothing happens to them.
>> That's still
>> I haven't heard anything.
>> That's still working through the
process. the last I heard.
>> Okay.
There has to be consequences.
>> Well, there was for the kid that damaged
the camera in the the late gazebo.
>> See, and
>> he did have to pay for that camera.
>> I'm not necessarily saying I want to
make these people, these kids have a
police record, but it was like when a
certain person in my family got a
speeding ticket when he was young, he
ended up unloading trucks in the
freezing cold for one day service,
>> you know, kind of stuff.
Let them pick up the ballpark,
>> you know, kind of thing. Let them pick
up, you know, so there consequences
>> and um who are doing this stuff,
>> right?
>> Yeah. And we need parents to help us
out, too.
>> Okay. So, I'm going to lock that up.
>> Okay. Um, is there anything else we any
public comments
>> on that particular
>> any public?
>> I'd like to talk about the um paving on
the dirt part of Albert Road.
>> Can we do that or no?
>> Does it have to be on the agenda?
>> You've already approved that.
>> Okay. Go ahead.
>> It's been approved. Yeah. To go from Bev
O's house down to move corners.
>> Yeah. And um I live on Woo Corners, all
right, the yellow house.
>> And several of our neighbors are really
disappointed that it's going to get
paved. The speeding is going to be
horrendous from the Deb's house down to
M corners. And Cory over has a full
working farm there with heavy duty
machinery that go over that road
constantly.
And there's a lot of construction going
on there. And there's a lot of 10 20
wheelers going up and down that street.
Um,
and it's also uh a scenic view road and
I've had plenty of people come as soon
as they hit the dirt road, they enjoy
the dirt road with the view to the
right, the full farm in the fall. They
got the view and they can go slow that,
you know, it's a 25 mph speed limit. And
the only people that do 25 mph, the
people that live in the road, it it's
like a shortcut. And it's a very
speeding road right now. Even the dirty
pot. And if it was paved, we're afraid
that it's even going to be worse.
And even people that just come and see
it and riding, if I'm gardening and they
stop and they we appreciate the, you
know, we like the view. There not many
dirt roads left in Ashlin that have a
view like this. And we're afraid that
the neighbors and myself are afraid that
this is going to take away from the
beauty of Ashlin. All right. One little
paved road. I don't know a third of a
mile. I don't know how long it it's
going to be. Okay. But we're kind of
disappointed that it's it's going to be
hard.
It's I've been here since I bought house
in ' 85 because I loved living on a dirt
road and a lot of other people felt the
same. And um I'm just upset that we're
going to lose a lot of beauty. All
right. And I I think people would
appreciate it more if it stayed the
same. Okay. And um uh that's the way I
feel and several of our neighbors that
live on our road world of dirt pot, they
feel the same, right? So I just wanted
to bring it up and let people know that
that's our feeling and we're just hoping
that you can make another decision and
maybe use that money someplace else.
Craig does a great job on the dirt road.
I mean Mark did a fantastic job and then
we had a little lull and Craig's been
doing a great job. Uh, we do have
potholes during mud season, but I mean
there's plenty of tar roads that have
potholes in them, too.
>> Yeah.
>> All right.
>> Yeah, we have those.
>> All right. But Craig does a great job.
Right now, it's almost like it's paved.
It's so smooth.
>> Okay. Yeah. You get your rain and you
have your potholes and stuff, but again,
it's just a a beautiful ride down there,
especially the cows are out there and
you see the chickens. Kids kids stop.
they just enjoy it, you know, and to
have another paved road just a short
distance.
I I think it's a waste and I just wanted
to put that forward to the board here
and maybe we could get some
reconsideration for that. Maybe use the
money someplace else that we could do.
All right. Um so I just again I just
wanted people to um hear me and several
of our neighbors feel the same way.
How how many neighbors how many houses
are on that stretch?
>> Um up until Moon is there's um
Deb. Okay. There's Deben. Okay. There's
Cory. Uh there's the um myself the
Gendrins and the A-frame right before
Morners.
>> Okay. Okay. And then you've got uh four
houses up on um
I can't even think of the right before
Mukon is the street that goes up there.
>> Yeah. L less than a dozen.
>> Yeah. There's like four houses up there.
Okay. And um Don Lulip just dug that up
that little road from Albert Road to
their bridge and put ledge pack down
there and it's like rock. Okay. But um
other people that live up further up the
hill. Okay, there's three houses right
there
and they're all keeping the road the
same. Of course, the the pavement would
stop at MU corners and from what I the
rest of the dirt road would continue
right down to 175.
>> All right. But we was concerned that it
would look terrible just that that paved
in a dirt road, a nice little town like
Ashlin, okay, that has some beauty in
it. And I we just think it would take
away from the beauty and all that.
>> Now, how many how many people are not
happy with this decision?
>> Um two, four, six, 8, 10, 12.
And that those are the only people I
>> Yeah, that's six families. Seven
families.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. And they all agree they enjoy the
way it is now.
>> Okay. We put up with the potholes in mud
season. It actually makes you go slower.
Okay. The speed on uh it it's just
terrible. It's just terrible. And we're
afraid that yeah, they'll even speed
faster until they get to move corners,
but then they don't slow down. Now it's
so wide that two cars can go side by
side without even slowing down. And when
I first moved here, it was one way, one
live. I got one road wide. People would
have to either back down to move corners
or back down up top and let one person
go by and people would wave and say
thank you. Now they do the other way,
you know. So um
again, I just wanted to present this to
you people to see how you would uh feel
about it.
>> Do you know what precipitated
paving it?
>> Well, there was Craig's recommendation.
>> I remember that meeting. I think I
remember the discussion. Um,
>> uh, I think it was the wear and tear on
the truck and that it was going to
actually, um, cost them significant
money to have to repair a vehicle
because of what it
>> happens when they during a snowstorm.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. He was saying that
>> that's what I recall.
>> That's right. I remember that now.
Beating up the plow, I think, was
>> Yeah, cuz Yeah, cuz they don't just put
sand. It's a saying and salt on that.
And you do that to dirt roads a lot of
times your edge will catch.
>> It's shot. It's short pier short road. I
mean it's not like they're plowing main
street.
>> You know what I mean? Um
>> and sometimes they do it with the one
ton. Sometime they do it with the bigger
truck.
>> Okay. They don't use the the pickup
obviously. It's too small. All right.
Yeah.
>> Um
I don't know why it's any different than
a a paved road with big plot holes and
stuff. I mean,
>> brick road's
got a lot of holes in it, too.
>> Mhm. You know, so um
>> I don't know. It's just what he present.
>> A dump truck is supposed to be a dump
truck. I mean, it's not a luxury truck
that you're playing paving the road with
plowing the road with, you know, and and
they do a good job plowing, too.
I mean, the past three or four years,
they've raised the road a little because
they've added a lot of dirt and field to
keep the water down and stuff. Okay. And
like I said, right now it's so smooth.
Um, it's nice.
>> So, as far as plowing it and ruining the
trucks
>> where they're not
>> where I'm here, I mean,
>> the plow, it's the plan that was taken.
Mhm.
>> Well, I mean, people have probably
plowed here before. I don't know. And
I've plowed. You usually keep the plow
an inch or 2 inches up off the ground.
All right. And if you hit a quad hole,
okay, you don't feel it, but um
they're going to plow all of Ashland and
one little more pave little dirt road. I
mean, they're going to plow all the way
up to to Holden as well. The sugar shack
is up there. That's where the line town
line is. So Ashlin and Holdenness.
>> Yeah, I'm not real familiar.
>> They turn around and Holdenness does
their bit. So they still going to have
to plow from W corners up to the sugar
shaft. All right. Which is going uphill
>> and it's even wider and even more
difficult to plow
>> that dirt. The rest of it is dirt.
>> So and again I'm just bringing this to
you people and this is how we feel. And
um I I just wonder you know how several
of us felt. Okay.
>> When is it slated to be?
>> When we call and say we're ready.
>> Well, they vacations and everything.
They're behind getting the prep work
done. So, it's probably not going to be
till
near the end of the month, first week,
October.
>> And how how what's the distance that
we're talking today?
>> I don't I didn't bring I didn't know we
were going to be talking or I would have
brought the packet.
So maybe we can bring we'll bring it to
the next
>> bring it up to the next meeting.
>> Right. Maybe you could ask the other
neighbors to come and speak to us.
>> Sure.
>> Would that be in two weeks?
>> Exactly. Next Monday. Next Monday.
>> Yeah.
>> Because of the holiday.
>> The Monday. That's the holiday. No.
>> No. Because we had
>> That's why we have two in a row because
I I got you. Yeah. I'll ask them. I'll
let them see if they will end up down.
And some people are just afraid to be on
TV or whatever. You know what I mean?
>> They get used to it.
>> Oh, I don't want to be associated or you
know what? I'll ask them. Definitely.
>> We try not to be a scary bunch.
>> That's the only way you can figure out
what's going on. You come and approach
people.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Exactly.
>> You know, and
I should be here more often. I've been
in town since 1985. I bought my house.
You know, I was the plumbing inspector
here for a while in Ashlin.
>> I just love Ashlin. The people here are
just my people,
>> right?
>> You know, you can
>> It's Boston goodbye.
>> Okay. So, put it on.
>> I appreciate if you guys talk about it
or we can bring it up next week. That
would be fantastic.
>> Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> We will do that. Any other public
>> comments or anything questions?
>> No,
>> nobody online.
>> Okay.
Do we we don't do we have to have them
on public? No public.
>> We'll do that next week.
>> Okay.
So, with that being said, anybody like
to make a motion to go home?
>> Yes. Ajourn.
>> I'll make it.
>> A second. All those in favor.
All right.